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Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

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PA Min. of Educ. to kids: There is no Israel, “the entire land is ours, from the Sea to the River”​

Nan Jacques Zilberdik | Nov 24, 2021
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  • At PA school event, poster featuring the PA map of “Palestine” erasing Israel instructs kids: “Palestine – the entire land is ours, from the [Mediterranean] Sea to the [Jordan] River”



Someone calling hinself the ''Minister of education'' has decided that ''Pal'istan'' is waqf. That's a quaint notion in islamist ideology where lands formerly conquered and / or occupied by Arabs-Moslems is forever the property of islamists. That was a commandment made by the inventor of Islam who partnered with God.

It seems that the international community buys into this as the welfare fraud money that maintains this nightmare still continues.
 

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Osama is angry. Something about land theft committed by something called 'Pal'istanians'.​

Osama Hamdan Of The Hamas Political Bureau Reacts To British Ban Of Hamas: The New 'Nazi' Government In London Wants To Attack The Palestinians​


 

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The Palestinian Authority loves to join international conventions.


Not to abide by them, of course. As we saw with the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women (CEDAW) and others, the Palestinian Authority signs on all these conventions just so they will look more like a real nation and and can join the International Criminal Court, but there is no or little intent to actually fulfill the obligations in those conventions.

The other major reason the PA joins every UN committee it can find is so that its envoys can make anti-Israel speeches, claiming that Israel is violating whatever the committee or convention is about. It tries to hijack every cause to make wild accusations against Israel.

It happened again this week, at the Conference of the States Parties to the Convention on the Prohibition of Biological Weapons, currently being held in Geneva, Switzerland.

Omar Awadallah, the PA's assistant foreign minister, demanded the United Nations send an international biological investigation team to the settlements, to inspect their supposed biological weapons labs.

In his speech, he said that the Palestinians cannot fully adhere to the Convention because Israel might have biological weapons manufacturing facilities in Palestinian territory.

Awadallah then tried to stop the Israeli representative from speaking, claiming that Israel has used chemical weapons against Palestinians.

To Palestinians, international fora are places that only exist to harass and threaten Israel. The organizers don't expect any member to act to subvert the entire process to attack a single state, so there are no means to stop the Palestinians from ruining international meetings.

You can be sure that the other envoys that attend these meetings, people who actually care about non--conventional weapons or climate or women's rights or anything else, are very unhappy about seeing these meetings turn into showcases of immaturity and stupidity from the Palestinian representatives.

 

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In light of the British declaration that all of Hamas is a terrorist organization, Hamas has been responding with statements that claim that their attacks on Israeli civilians are legal under international law.

Hamas' press release in response to the news story said, "We believe that resisting the Israeli occupation with all means possible, including armed resistance, is a guaranteed right for peoples under occupation as per international law."

This was two days before a Hamas terrorist murdered Eli Kay in Jerusalem, and Hamas' "political wing" praised the murder. Hamas has consistently claimed that all terrorist acts - suicide bombs, bus bombings, rocket attacks, shootings, stabbings, car rammings - are really acts of legitimate armed struggle.

That claim is made often by apologists for Palestinian terror. One prominent example is CJ Werleman's 2018 article titled "International law guarantees Palestinians the right to resist," which is entirely based on this claim:
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The Fourth Geneva Convention, article 33 is unambiguous: "No protected person [i.e., civilian] may be punished for an offence he or she has not personally committed. Collective penalties and likewise all measures of intimidation or of terrorism are prohibited." There is no exception to this rule.

The Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions, article 51(2), is even more explicit: "The civilian population as such, as well as individual civilians, shall not be the object of attack. Acts or threats of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population are prohibited."

The same article goes on to declare Hamas' entire conception of "armed resistance" to be illegal:


4. Indiscriminate attacks are prohibited.Indiscriminate attacks are:

(a) those which are not directed at a specific military objective;

(b) those which employ a method or means of combat which cannot be directed at a specific military objective; or

(c) those which employ a method or means of combat the effects of which cannot be limited as required by this Protocol; and consequently, in each such case,are of a nature to strike military objectives and civilians or civilian objects without distinction.

5. Among others, the following types of attacks are to be considered as indiscriminate:

(a) an attack by bombardment by any methods or means which treats as a single military objective a number of clearly separated and distinct military objectives located in a city, town, village or other area containing a similar concentration of civilians or civilian objects; and

(b) an attack which may be expected to cause incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians, damage to civilian objects, or a combination thereof, which would be excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated.

This makes it clear that Hamas rockets are a direct violation of international law.

(Later in that same article is the prohibition against using human shields.)

These are not the only legal instruments that prove that Hamas-style terror is a direct breach of international law, although they are enough.

UN Security Council Resolution 1566 (2004) condemns all kinds of terror, and it explicitly says that there is no possible excuse or exception for terrorist attacks - a direct rebuke to those like Hamas, Werleman and Cohen who pretend that Palestinians are in a different category:


1. Condemns in the strongest terms all acts of terrorism irrespective of their motivation, whenever and by whomsoever committed, as one of the most serious threats to peace and security;
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3. Recalls that criminal acts, including against civilians, committed with the intent to cause death or serious bodily injury, or taking of hostages, with the purpose to provoke a state of terror in the general public or in a group of persons or particular persons, intimidate a population or compel a government or an international organization to do or to abstain from doing any act, and all other acts which constitute offences within the scope of and as defined in the international conventions and protocols relating to terrorism, are under no circumstances justifiable by considerations of a political, philosophical, ideological, racial, ethnic, religious or other similar nature, and calls upon all States to prevent such acts and, if not prevented, to ensure that such acts are punished by penalties consistent with their grave nature.
This resolution was passed under Chapter 7, meaning that it has the force of international law.
In 2004, the UN Secretary General described the difficulties in defining terrorism and briefly addressed the arguments of the terror apologists, demolishing them in a single paragraph:

The search for an agreed definition [of terrorism] usually stumbles on two issues. The first is the argument that any definition should include States’ use of armed forces against civilians. We believe that the legal and normative framework against State violations is far stronger than in the case of non-State actors and we do not find this objection to be compelling. The second objection is that peoples under foreign occupation have a right to resistance and a definition of terrorism should not override this right. The right to resistance is contested by some. But it is not the central point: the central point is that there is nothing in the fact of occupation that justifies the targeting and killing of civilians.

Taken as a whole, international law is crystal clear: Hamas and the other Palestinian factions are terror groups and their attacks on civilians are blatantly illegal under international law. They are explicit war crimes.

(full article online)

 

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Terror orgs use shooting and stabbing attacks to try and trigger more terror​

Nan Jacques Zilberdik | Nov 25, 2021

  • PFLP: “Learn from the example of the self-sacrificing fighter who shot the settlers [on Sunday]”

  • PFLP praises “heroic” murder, urges to copy attack in Jerusalem

  • PFLP: “Escalate the resistance at all the centers of confrontation with the occupation,

  • PFLP about 16-year-old boy stabbing two Israeli police officers: “the heroic operation … proves that our people’s revolution is continuing, heating up, and becoming more qualitative day by day”

  • Terrorist murderer before attack called to use “everything at our disposal” to release prisoners

  • Terrorist murderer urged Palestinians to “tell the oppressor: ‘Get away from us!’”









As happens with the Islamic terrorists, crimes committed by their adherents are used as an incentive to spur more crimes.
 

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Nonsensical comments from the squid squad's Rashida Tlaib about emptying federal prisons could not have come at a worse time for the disaster also called the Biden presidency.






The White House emphatically distanced President Joe Biden from a radical proposal from Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) to close federal prisons.

“Let me be absolutely clear: The President does not support abolishing prisons,” White House press secretary Jen Psaki said Tuesday at the daily press briefing after she was asked about Tlaib’s proposal.

Tlaib recently defended her proposal in an interview with Axios reporter Jonathan Swan, noting that many criminals in federal prison were suffering from mental illness
 

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RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Tweets as a Propaganda Tool
⁜→ et al,

BLUF: Certain Social Networking and Media Outlets are notorious for being "half" wrong, but are great tools for spreading deceptive content, manipulated or altered information, and false commentary. As they say, highlighting a truth within a lie make the propaganda all the Moore effective.

Our friend "Sixties Fan" has found now here. in the TRTWorld Electronic Magazine Article by CJ Werleman's 2018 → Titled "International law guarantees Palestinians the right to resist,"

EXCERPT From • said:
That claim is made often by apologists for Palestinian terror. One prominent example is CJ Werleman's 2018 article titled "International law guarantees Palestinians the right to resist," which is entirely based on this claim:
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The Fourth Geneva Convention, article 33 is unambiguous: "No protected person [i.e., civilian] may be punished for an offence he or she has not personally committed. Collective penalties and likewise all measures of intimidation or of terrorism are prohibited." There is no exception to this rule.​
The Additional Protocol to the Geneva Conventions, article 51(2), is even more explicit: "The civilian population as such, as well as individual civilians, shall not be the object of attack. Acts or threats of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population are prohibited."​
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In this case, CJ Werleman starts off on the Topic of "Right to Resist" but his presentation neither cites international law, treaty or convention pertaining to the "Right of Self-Resist" for the "Right of Self-Defense." This is a writing style and technique used by many propagandists that twist the general media duty to perform a public service by informing and enlightening the public. (The Peter Parker principle → Stan Lee.). Most people are aware that Propagandist do not have a profound moral code or ethical standard towards the truth. And some writers and journalist are aware that publish content that incites discrimination, hostility or violence is prohibited, on the international level, by Article 20 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (CCPR). And these writers and journalist do the exact opposite effect of informing or enlightening the public in a responsible manner. There is a difference between than Arab Palestinian's "Right to Self-Defense" and the Arab Palestinian who commit an offense which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power (the Israelis), an Arab Palestinian who commit an offense which is solely perform espionage, or serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power (Israel), or commit offences which have caused the death of people - no matter the race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status (any one at all). Arab Palestinians, no matter what cause they claim are subject to the prosecution under Customary and International Humanitarian Law (IHL). (See Article 68, Fourth Geneva Convention)

I would like to jump on the train and lend my support to the "Sixties Fan" and "Hollie" (as well as others) who have cited their objection to writers and journalist that disfigure the truth in favor of throwing rocks at Israel
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Most Respectfully,
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In most societies, the kind of incitement to provoke violent attacks that are the norm in the Pally occupied territories simply isn't allowed. Groups that promote killing and lawlesness are taken apart.

The Pally's are clear about their intentions when they groom and make heroes of the sociopaths they breed. They understand the consequences - that the Israelis will respond to attacks but the lives of children are made cheap in the Pally territories. And when talking heads in media outlets make excuses for, and play the blame shifting game, we have to allow them not even the smallest, thinnest bit of concealment from the loathsone dishonesty they promote.





The facts were clear from the onset, with Hamas having praised the “heroic operation” an hour later. Yet, multiple news outlets blurred the lines between the assailant and his victims. On BBC Newshour, former Palestinian Authority spokesperson Nour Odeh blamed the terror attack on Israel, thus ignoring the long history of Palestinian incitement and backing of terrorism.

Following the attack, hundreds of Palestinians in eastern Jerusalem participated in a pro-Hamas march to honor the terrorist. Meanwhile in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip, “activists” distributed sweets in celebration of murder.

In a televised eulogy of Fadi Abu Shkhaydam, one of his students laid bare the results of Hamas’ antisemitic incitement:








What is this about children calling on allah to burn Jews? We're told ''this is not a religious conflict''.
 
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RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: Tweets as a Propaganda Tool
⁜→ et al,

BLUF: Certain Social Networking and Media Outlets are notorious for being "half" wrong, but are great tools for spreading deceptive content, manipulated or altered information, and false commentary. As they say, highlighting a truth within a lie make the propaganda all the Moore effective.

Our friend "Sixties Fan" has found now here. in the TRTWorld Electronic Magazine Article by CJ Werleman's 2018 → Titled "International law guarantees Palestinians the right to resist,"


(COMMENT)
.
In this case, CJ Werleman starts off on the Topic of "Right to Resist" but his presentation neither cites international law, treaty or convention pertaining to the "Right of Self-Resist" for the "Right of Self-Defense." This is a writing style and technique used by many propagandists that twist the general media duty to perform a public service by informing and enlightening the public. (The Peter Parker principle → Stan Lee.). Most people are aware that Propagandist do not have a profound moral code or ethical standard towards the truth. And some writers and journalist are aware that publish content that incites discrimination, hostility or violence is prohibited, on the international level, by Article 20 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (CCPR). And these writers and journalist do the exact opposite effect of informing or enlightening the public in a responsible manner. There is a difference between than Arab Palestinian's "Right to Self-Defense" and the Arab Palestinian who commit an offense which is solely intended to harm the Occupying Power (the Israelis), an Arab Palestinian who commit an offense which is solely perform espionage, or serious acts of sabotage against the military installations of the Occupying Power (Israel), or commit offences which have caused the death of people - no matter the race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status (any one at all). Arab Palestinians, no matter what cause they claim are subject to the prosecution under Customary and International Humanitarian Law (IHL). (See Article 68, Fourth Geneva Convention)

I would like to jump on the train and lend my support to the "Sixties Fan" and "Hollie" (as well as others) who have cited their objection to writers and journalist that disfigure the truth in favor of throwing rocks at Israel
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1611604183365.png

Most Respectfully,
R
Thanks for the link.

In fact, international law is unambiguous in its endorsement of “armed struggle” for peoples who seek self-determination under “colonial and foreign domination.”

United Nations resolution 37/43, dated 3 December 1982, “reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, including armed struggle.”

Moreover, the resolution’s preamble makes clear that it refers not to a hypothetical in the abstract, but rather specifically to the rights of Palestinians, stating, “Considering that the denial of the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people to self-determination, sovereignty, independence and return to Palestine and the repeated acts of aggression by Israel against the peoples of the region constitute a serious threat to international peace and security.”
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Thanks for the link.

In fact, international law is unambiguous in its endorsement of “armed struggle” for peoples who seek self-determination under “colonial and foreign domination.”

United Nations resolution 37/43, dated 3 December 1982, “reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, including armed struggle.”

Moreover, the resolution’s preamble makes clear that it refers not to a hypothetical in the abstract, but rather specifically to the rights of Palestinians, stating, “Considering that the denial of the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people to self-determination, sovereignty, independence and return to Palestine and the repeated acts of aggression by Israel against the peoples of the region constitute a serious threat to international peace and security.”
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United Nations resolution 37/43, dated 3 December 1982, “reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, including armed struggle.



So.... you confirm the legitimacy of Israeli resistance.

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The most recent Pally attacker wanted to be a gee-had role model.

He's dead. He perpetuated the negative stereotypes of Pally Arabs as sociopathic child abusers.



 

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Israel is considering encouraging schools to go on field trips to the Temple Mount, and Palestinian media has been talking about it non-stop.

On Thursday, the main preacher at Al Aqsa Mosque, Sheikh Ikrima Sabri, issued a statement today about how Jewish schoolchildren visiting Judaism's most sacred place is somehow an existential danger Al Aqsa mosque.

Warning: extreme hyperbole alert.
The preacher of Al-Aqsa Mosque, Sheikh Ikrima Sabri, warned today, Thursday, of an “existential danger” threatening the blessed mosque, as it wastransformed into a lawless intrusion arena for students of settlement schools, as part of their compulsory tours.

Sabri said that the occupation's transformation of the Al-Aqsa Mosque into a shrine for settlement schools is an attempt to promote the Jewish character of Jerusalem and end the Islamic landmarks in it.

He added that the occupation wants to make Jerusalem the capital of the Jews, and accordingly it completes its procedures with the purely Jewish characteristics to say that Jerusalem is Jewish.

He continued, "We've said before that Al-Aqsa Mosque is in danger, but today it is really facing dangers."

He considered the decision to include Al-Aqsa in the program of trips to the settlement schools as "a blatant interference in the affairs of the mosque, and an insult to its sanctity and its courtyards."

Sheikh Sabri stressed that Al-Aqsa Mosque is above being subject to the decisions of the Israeli Knesset or the occupation courts, as it is for Muslims alone and by a divine decision. "We categorically reject the Israeli decision regarding Al-Aqsa, and we hold the occupation government fully responsible for any damage to the blessed mosque," he added.

He cautioned about the seriousness of the decision, which violates Al-Aqsa courtyards, intensifies the presence of Jews inside it, and tightens the noose around Muslims, indicating that this step is in the interest of imposing Israeli sovereignty over the mosque.

Sheikh Sabri pointed out that "these extremist Jewish groups feel that the atmosphere is ripe for them to attack Al-Aqsa Mosque."

The preacher of Al-Aqsa Mosque called on the people of Palestine and Jerusalem to "intensify the pilgrimage to the blessed mosque, and to reconstruct it permanently, to repel any possibility that we might be surprised by the extremist Jews."

Not a word about Zionists or Israelis visiting - only Jews.

The Temple Mount is a microcosm of the entire conflict. Israel wants to share with the Muslims, Muslims want to expel the Jews.

(full article online)

 

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Palestinian activists Mohammed and Muna El-Kurd. (Photo: via Twitter)
 

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At some point, one hopes that all Islamic terrorist enclaves will be designated as dangers to the international community.




In the arena of international relations, security and sanity got a win, as the United Kingdom recently designated the terrorist organization Hamas (a.ka., the “Islamic Resistance Movement”) as a…

Terrorist organization.
 

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