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Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

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To be sure, the problems at the prison that led up to the escape were inexcusable. But the Israeli prison system will lick its wounds, examine its mistakes, and fix the problems. That's what Israelis do - keep improving and learning from mistakes.



Palestinian Arabs don't think that way. To them, everything is about honor - the Jews must be not defeated but humiliated. Victories are based on perception, not facts.

The honor/shame society, with its emphasis on how things look and not ho they are, cannot win against a society that is fact-based. One needs to be able to admit mistakes to improve, and the Palestinians who blame all of their problems on the Jews cannot grow beyond their own myths.

This is why the Arab states have been turning away from the Palestinian cause - because the Palestinian refusal to accept a state and to stop their internal fighting is shameful to the entire Arab world, and at some point the shame has caused them to stop wanting to be associated with people who have shamed the entire Arab world.

Palestinian groups are trying to escalate this prison escape into something much bigger, into a new intifada. They will use any excuse to try to do that, and there are multiple attempts to do that every year, as we saw when Israel placed cameras near the Temple Mount. The groups try to direct Palestinian emotion of any kind into a new war. Usually such attempts fail, but this is hard to predict. Palestinian prisoners are heroes and new measures to frustrate future escape attempts will upset the masses. The Palestinian Authority is trying to ride this wave of emotion just as Hamas and Islamic Jihad are.

Both the "honor" of the escape and the "shame" of the captures elicit emotions, and the Palestinian groups want to gain power based on these emotions. The Gaza groups try to shame the PA and the PA tries to shame Hamas. Facts are secondary.

You simply cannot understand the Middle East without understanding how pivotal the honor/shame culture is - and how self-defeating it is. Arab nations are starting to catch on, but there is a long way to go.

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(While Arab countries seek peace and cooperation with Israel: )

  • The Taliban’s reconquering of Afghanistan has reenergized the global jihad’s war against the West, inspiring other regional Islamist and extremist movements, including those of the Palestinians.
  • Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad see the U.S. pullout from Afghanistan as vindicating their longstanding ideological claims that patience pays off and that “resistance” can defeat the American-led Western alliance and dismantle the State of Israel.
  • Congratulating the Taliban on August 17, 2021, Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh said, “The demise of the U.S. occupation of Afghanistan is a prelude to the demise of the Israeli occupation of the land of Palestine.”
  • Palestinian statements of support for the Taliban should be understood in the context of the fundamentalist groups’ ideological rejection of America and Israel as infidels seeking to control the lands of Islam.
  • Abdullah Azzam, a Palestinian scholar and cleric, is widely considered the “father of the global jihad” and served as a mentor to Osama bin Laden. Azzam laid the groundwork for the establishment of al-Qaeda and the Pakistani jihadist group Lashkar-e-Taiba, which carried out the deadly Mumbai, India, attack in 2008, killing 175 people.
  • Palestinian “human rights” organizations sought to undermine the American mission in Afghanistan, submitting complaints to the International Criminal Court (ICC) charging U.S. military forces in Afghanistan and the CIA with “war crimes” and “crimes against humanity.”
  • The Taliban victory in Afghanistan makes it impossible for Palestinian Islamists to agree to any U.S. peace proposal that would require any Palestinian concessions. The Taliban’s takeover and the U.S. withdrawal have legitimized and empowered Hamas as the new standard for “resistance” against Israel.

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It appears that Sinwar’s perception of the situation has undergone a fundamental change. After his election as Hamas leader in the Gaza Strip in 2017, he tried to improve the civilian and economic situation in the area along three channels. First, vis-à-vis Palestinian Authority (PA) President Mahmoud Abbas: with the inter-organizational reconciliation initiative in 2017, he showed willingness to return civilian management of the Gaza Strip (but not security control) to the PA. Second, vis-à-vis Israel: through an attempt to reach understandings for a prolonged ceasefire in return for reconstruction of the Gaza Strip, removal of the so-called "siege," and a deal for an exchange of prisoners and the bodies of Israeli soldiers missing-in-action. Third, vis-à-vis Egypt: by means of an effort to cast himself as a responsible actor who would not challenge the Egyptians, and would halt aid to terrorist groups in Sinai. The channels with Abbas and Israel came to a stalemate, and Egyptian efforts to promote a removal of the "siege" and an exchange of prisoners between Hamas and Israel also failed. Furthermore, Sinwar almost lost his position in the Hamas leadership elections in the Gaza Strip earlier this year. The experience taught him that when the situation is quiet and calm, Israel has no reason to ease the restrictions on the Gaza Strip or to advance an arrangement. The way to "extort" concessions from Israel is to initiate unexpected events and wage violence from the Gaza Strip.


Hamas's motivation for escalation now is related to its distress at the worsening situation, once its alleged strategic successes in Operation Guardian of the Walls did not translate into achievements in terms of reconstruction of the Gaza Strip. In addition, the mechanism for transferring money from Qatar via the UN excluded the transfer of money to Hamas employees and its various institutions in the Gaza Strip. In Hamas’s view, the sole means of pressure available to it is its power to inflict damage through unpredictable behavior, such as the rocket fire at Jerusalem that ignited Operation Guardian of the Walls and the escalation in recent days. Hamas seeks to wage a campaign of attrition that will exhaust Israel through an ongoing campaign of harassment shifting between a number of fronts: terrorism and mob violence from the Gaza Strip, incitement in Jerusalem, rocket fire from Lebanon, and encouragement of terrorism in the West Bank. The organization believes that Israel will not begin a large-scale military conflict in the Gaza Strip now.

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According to calculations made by Palestinian Media Watch, based on the official PA terrorist salary pay scale, prior to the escape of the terrorists, the PA had already paid them a minimum cumulative sum of 3,728,600 shekels ($1,165,125).

Leading the payments was Mahmoud Ardah, who was arrested in 1996 and sentenced to life and another 15 years. To reward Ardah for his terrorist activities, to date the PA has paid him a total of 1,156,000 shekels ($361,230). For the last 60 months, Ardah had been receiving 8,000 shekels ($2,471). On Sept. 21, he will complete 25 years in prison. Accordingly, in his September “pay check”, he will receive a salary rise to 10,000 shekels/month ($3,089)

The second highest paid of the escaped terrorists is Muhammad Ardah, an Islamic Jihad member who was put on trial and convicted for his part in initiating and executing a suicide bombing on Nov. 29, 2001, in which 3 people were murdered and many others were wounded. To reward Ardah for blowing up a bus, the PA has already paid him a total of 903,200 shekels ($282,235). Arrested in May 2002, this Ardah receives 7,000 shekels/month ($2,162). He will receive a salary increase in May 2022.

The two Ardah’s are followed by Yaqub Qaderi, who carried out a shooting attack in 2002 in which Yosef Ajami was murdered and a foreign worker was wounded. Arrested in 2003, to reward Qaderi for murdering an Israeli, the PA has paid him a total of 831,800 shekels ($259,923). His current monthly salary is 7,000 shekels ($2,162).

The next highest paid of the terrorist escapees is Ayham Kamamji who murdered young Eliyahu Ashri in 2006, and planned to blow up a bus filled with passengers using an exploding car carrying a massive explosive approximately 100 kilograms in weight. To reward Kamamji for murdering an Israeli teenager and planning another massive attack, the PA has paid him a total of 687,000 shekels ($214,676). Two months ago, having completed 15 years in prison, Kamamji received a pay rise from 6,000 ($1,853) to 7,000 shekels/month ($2,162). Kamanji has not yet been re-captured.

The next highest paid terrorist escapee is Zakariya Zubeidi, a terrorist who commanded the Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades, Fatah’s terror wing, in Jenin. As a reward for his terror activities, since his arrest in February 2019 the PA has paid Zubeidi a total of 124,000 shekels ($38,747).

The 2004 PA Law of Prisoners and Released Prisoners and the regulations promulgated by the PA codify the PA’s payments to the terrorist prisoners. The law and regulations provide that a terrorist prisoner’s salary will rise in accordance with the time he spends in prison. Before his current arrest, Zubeidi had spent a cumulative period of five years in prison for other terrorist activities. When he was arrested in February 2019, Zubeidi did not receive the salary of a “starting terrorist prisoner” but rather the salary of a five year prison veteran. Accordingly, every month the PA pays Zubeidi an additional 4,000 shekels ($1,236).

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El-Kurd will publish his first essay about the Arab-Israeli conflict in the coming days, introducing the magazine’s million followers to his radical viewpoints, as HonestReporting detailed in July.

Indeed, for those who have followed the writer since he gained notoriety by protesting against Jews seeking to reclaim ownership of properties in the eastern part of Jerusalem that were confiscated from them between 1948 and 1967 when Jordan occupied the holy city, El-Kurd’s skewed interpretation of “journalism” is crystal clear.

In fact, El-Kurd’s Twitter feed demonstrated what The Nation’s latest addition defines as “Palestinian resistance;” that is, the murder of Jewish Israelis. Just two days before his hiring was announced, he rejoiced as six Palestinian terrorists broke out of Israel’s maximum-security Gilboa Prison.

“I am going to bed with a smile on my face and dreaming of the day all prisons are abolished,” El-Kurd tweeted, calling the incident “excellent.”

Moreover, The Nation’s new correspondent regularly downplays war crimes by Hamas, another US-designated terrorist organization. El-Kurd has incited violence and glorified terrorism, recently stating that he mourns “all of our [Palestinian] martyrs.” He previously lauded Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine member and two-time airplane hijacker Leila Khaled.

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Did you drink something, taken drugs? Tell us we want to help.
- "I don't drink and nothing"

Where are you from?
- "Haifa"

Who threw you to the street like that?
- "I'm under death threats"

Who threatens you?
- "My husband's family"

Who's your husband, from where?
- "Kfar Kassem"

 

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I suppose living in relative comfort in an Israeli jail is a better choice than martyrdom.






3,728,600 reasons the escaped terrorists chose to return to prison quietly
Maurice Hirsch, Adv. | Sep 12, 2021
On September 11, 2021, Israeli security forces managed to capture four of the six terrorists who escaped from the Gilboa prison just days earlier. The terrorists did not resist their re-arrest.

While their escape was clearly the result of a substantial failure on the part of the Israeli Prison Service, their relatively quiet re-capture could well be the function of the comfortable life in Israeli prison while accumulating massive salaries, from the Palestinian Authority.

According to calculations made by Palestinian Media Watch, based on the official PA terrorist salary pay scale, prior to the escape of the terrorists, the PA had already paid them a minimum cumulative sum of 3,728,600 shekels ($1,165,125).
 

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I think Israel made another mistake by not ramping up its response to these latest islamic terrorist attacks.





Both rockets, fired hours apart, intercepted by Iron Dome; 3 injured running to bomb shelter; third successive night of rocket fire amid increase in tensions
By AARON BOXERMAN, JUDAH ARI GROSS and TOI STAFF
12 September 2021, 10:51 pm

Terrorists fire one rocket from Gaza, then another as IDF strikes Hamas targets
 

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I think Israel made another mistake by not ramping up its response to these latest islamic terrorist attacks.





Both rockets, fired hours apart, intercepted by Iron Dome; 3 injured running to bomb shelter; third successive night of rocket fire amid increase in tensions
By AARON BOXERMAN, JUDAH ARI GROSS and TOI STAFF
12 September 2021, 10:51 pm

Terrorists fire one rocket from Gaza, then another as IDF strikes Hamas targets
Gazans humiliated Hamas spokesman Zubeidi, because the celebrated Zubeidi,
who got captured is Fatah, and none among them were Hamas,
despite "leading the resistance"...not to mention trying to rise
the price of prisoners, having more Fatah heroes to release.

2 rockets intercepted, 5 bases destroyed.
This is for the 2nd:



Q. What response would You deem fit?
Would You argue this and that, when we take Gaza back?
 

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Gazans humiliated Hamas spokesman Zubeidi, because the celebrated Zubeidi,
who got captured is Fatah, and none among them were Hamas,
despite "leading the resistance"...not to mention trying to rise
the price of prisoners, having more Fatah heroes to release.

2 rockets intercepted, 5 bases destroyed.
This is for the 2nd:



Q. What response would You deem fit?
Would You argue this and that, when we take Gaza back?
The report of 5 terrorist sites being struck was not in the early news I read. As a minimum, that might be appropriate. But why not respond with punishing measures intended to make such attacks too costly to pursue? I would think that along with the 5 retaliatory strikes, tunnels and Hamas weapons factories could also have been struck. I don't know with certainty but I suspect that Israeli intelligence has an on-going list of terrorist infrastructure targets.
 

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So, 'popular uprising' is a slogan uttered by a dictator that convinces Arabs-Moslems in the territories they occupy to attempt to kill Israelis.

Such are the dangers of a retrograde ideology that has changed little over the course of 1,400 years.






Fatah calls for “popular uprising” – Palestinians respond with 3 stabbing attacks​

Nan Jacques Zilberdik and Itamar Marcus | Sep 14, 2021
  • “The Fatah Movement called on the masses of our people for an urgent popular uprising in all the Palestinian cities, villages, and refugee camps”

  • At Fatah procession, “the speakers called on the masses of our people to carry out a comprehensive popular uprising in all the districts of the homeland”

Yesterday, two Palestinian terrorists carried out stabbing attacks against Israelis. One used a kitchen knife to stab and wound two Israeli teenagers in central Jerusalem, while another attempted to stab Israeli soldiers with a screwdriver at the Gush Etzion junction. A few days earlier, another terrorist used a knife to try and stab an Israeli security officer in the Old City of Jerusalem. All three attacks followed the call by Abbas’ Fatah Movement for “an urgent popular uprising in all the Palestinian cities, villages, and refugee camps,” which the movement issued following the recent escape of the 6 terrorists from prison. The official PA daily found this message so important that it printed it two days in a row:
 

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P F Tinmore said:
:)

I suppose he will be laughing when he can parade the dead bodies of Pally intifada'ists who are killed when attacking Israeli civilians.

:)
 

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One would expect the very worst examples of leftist degeneracy from the noted newspapers as they won't call out Islamic ideologically motivated killing.





Which of the following actions by “ideologically-motivated” Palestinian Arabs should be considered terrorism?

  1. Placing a bomb at a bus stop in downtown Tel Aviv, killing an Israeli teenage girl.
  2. Kidnapping an Israeli teenage boy and shooting him point-blank in the head.
  3. Throwing flaming bottles of gasoline at Israelis, in order to burn them alive.
  4. Firing automatic weapons at Israeli civilian buses.
The answer, according to The New York Times and The Washington Post, is “4. None of the above.”

The terrorist attacks listed above were just a small sample oof the violent crimes against civilians committed by the six Palestinian Arabs who recently escaped from an Israeli prison. Yet in the coverage of the escape by America’s two most prominent and influential newspapers, the word “terrorist” never appears.
 

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Oh, dear. It looks like the Pallys are a bit miffed at Israeli Arabs who assisted the capture of escaped islamo-jail birds,

Somewhere in the territories occupied by Islamic terrorists, a fatwa pen is scratching out an islamo hit.






Headline: “Jenin district governor: We must fight the accusations against our people inside the 1948 territories”

“Jenin District Governor Akram Rajoub called to fight those who are stirring up strife among the members of the one [Palestinian] people in the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, Jerusalem, and inside the 1948 territories (i.e., Israel).

District Governor Rajoub added in a statement yesterday evening [Sept. 11, 2021]: ‘Since yesterday the occupation’s pawns have begun to sow the seeds of strife and divisiveness among the members of the one people, and this is just in order to divert attention from the defeat that it experienced against the determination of our heroic prisoners’ (refers to how Israeli Arabs reported on 6 terrorist prisoners who escaped from Gilboa Prison; see note below -Ed.)…
 

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Seems all too predictable. The Pally Death Cult institutes a cradle to grave program that glorifies killing and death for the politico-religious ideology then feigns outrage when their killers meet the business end of security forces.





On August 28, United States Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib (D-MI) ignited a firestorm after posting a claim on Twitter that Israel was dehumanizing Palestinians by not returning the body of an assailant who in June had attempted to ram a car into IDF soldiers before exiting the vehicle while wielding a knife. She was subsequently shot dead.

First, there is the obvious fact that Tlaib failed to even note that Afana had committed an act of terrorism.

Second, Afana was not killed by “the Israeli government,” but rather by security forces who were intentionally targeted.

Third, Tlaib alludes to an Israeli policy whose underpinnings she is clearly unfamiliar with.
 

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