Which country has a model capitalistic healthcare system?

[Saigon]

It's interesting to see there isn't a single suggestion yet.

There is no shortage of models out there - France being perhaps the best for the US.

Also Germany, the UK, Australia...basically every western country has universal healthcare, so there may be a good reason for that.

 

[Politico]

Which country has a model capitalistic healthcare system?

Since you're asking the question I doubt you're from here. But if one pops up I'll let you know.

 

[treadlightly]

model capitalistic healthcare system

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[Katzndogz]

Those countries that have successful universal health insurance programs have a hybrid of public/private services. Germany has the oldest system that works quite well. It's what Paul Ryan used for his proposal. Of course the German people are not American people. The Germans are hardworking people who do not accept laziness as a career option the way many Americans do. Americans are more like the Greeks who imagine that they are entitled to support from the rest of the world.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

France, it's ranked #1 in the world.

And the emergency care I got in Brussels was just amazing.

Reading posts here, the rw's just refuse to EDUCATE THEMSELVES.

 

[dblack]

France, it's ranked #1 in the world.

And the emergency care I got in Brussels was just amazing.

Reading posts here, the rw's just refuse to EDUCATE THEMSELVES.

But the OP asked for "capitalistic" (and, presumably, free-market) models.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

France, it's ranked #1 in the world.

And the emergency care I got in Brussels was just amazing.

Reading posts here, the rw's just refuse to EDUCATE THEMSELVES.

But the OP asked for "capitalistic" (and, presumably, free-market) models.

And you wrote this -

I don't see how. Certainly not when it comes to addressing the "anti-patient and pro-big business" problem. It doubles down on that aspect, legally forcing us to support the very corporations who have created the health care mess in the first place. That's one sick, twisted version of 'reform' in my view

So, you still have not educated yourself about ObamaCare.

I'm just tired of posting links and talking seriously when its obvious that many don't want to know the facts. They're quick to criticize or to state what they apparently believe are facts and they just don't care that they're wrong.

So, screw it. Believe what you want because that's what we're seeing from the rw's.

 

[dblack]

And the emergency care I got in Brussels was just amazing.

Reading posts here, the rw's just refuse to EDUCATE THEMSELVES.

But the OP asked for "capitalistic" (and, presumably, free-market) models.

And you wrote this -

I don't see how. Certainly not when it comes to addressing the "anti-patient and pro-big business" problem. It doubles down on that aspect, legally forcing us to support the very corporations who have created the health care mess in the first place. That's one sick, twisted version of 'reform' in my view

So, you still have not educated yourself about ObamaCare.

How so? What have I got wrong, exactly? PPACA forces us into corporate insurance whether we want it or not.

 

[Oddball]

So, you still have not educated yourself about ObamaCare.

I'm just tired of posting links and talking seriously when its obvious that many don't want to know the facts. They're quick to criticize or to state what they apparently believe are facts and they just don't care that they're wrong.

Clearly, it is you who is uneducated about Obolshevikcare and have no problem being forced into a corporatist model, as long as those doing the forcing have that (D) by their names.

Well, there's also that whole dumber than a stump thing you have working for ya, too.

So, screw it. Believe what you want because that's what we're seeing from the rw's.

Project much?

 

[Ernie S.]

Which country has a model capitalistic healthcare system?
Just curious who we should model ourselves after.

Who should we model ourselves after???? Are you serious? We are the United States of America. WE are the country others want to imitate, not the other way around.

If there is an ideal capitalist health care system, we will find it if we can just get all those who'd rather we had socialistic health care, out of the way.

 

[Toronado3800]

Which country has a model capitalistic healthcare system?
Just curious who we should model ourselves after.

Who should we model ourselves after???? Are you serious? We are the United States of America. WE are the country others want to imitate, not the other way around.

If there is an ideal capitalist health care system, we will find it if we can just get all those who'd rather we had socialistic health care, out of the way.

Well then Ernie this will take some thinking then if you say it has never worked anyplace else. What do you want? I like the idea of if you, your kid or your mother have no assests you do not get treated. Most people arehave no gumption though and couldn't live with the thought of the ambulance leaving whimpering folks in the streets.

So, you want some kind of forced welfare for your benefit?

 

[Oddball]

Which country has a model capitalistic healthcare system?
Just curious who we should model ourselves after.

Who should we model ourselves after???? Are you serious? We are the United States of America. WE are the country others want to imitate, not the other way around.

If there is an ideal capitalist health care system, we will find it if we can just get all those who'd rather we had socialistic health care, out of the way.

Well then Ernie this will take some thinking then if you say it has never worked anyplace else. What do you want? I like the idea of if you, your kid or your mother have no assests you do not get treated. Most people arehave no gumption though and couldn't live with the thought of the ambulance leaving whimpering folks in the streets.

So, you want some kind of forced welfare for your benefit?

False dichotomy.

Lack of socialized medical services doesn't mean that people won't get treatment, and the crap about ambulances leaving people "whimpering in the streets" is a bunch of brain dead, hyperbolic appeal to emotion.

So much for the notion that you might have wanted to have a serious and dispassionate discourse on the topic.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Which country has a model capitalistic healthcare system?
Just curious who we should model ourselves after.

Who should we model ourselves after???? Are you serious? We are the United States of America. WE are the country others want to imitate, not the other way around.

If there is an ideal capitalist health care system, we will find it if we can just get all those who'd rather we had socialistic health care, out of the way.

Well then Ernie this will take some thinking then if you say it has never worked anyplace else. What do you want? I like the idea of if you, your kid or your mother have no assests you do not get treated. Most people arehave no gumption though and couldn't live with the thought of the ambulance leaving whimpering folks in the streets.

So, you want some kind of forced welfare for your benefit?

I don't. The GObP/pubpots are determined to force us to keep Reagan's disastrous EMTALA. And, Mittens' current flip flop is in favor that as well.

WHO do you rw's think pays for this SOCIALIST WELFARE?

 

[Bfgrn]

Which country has a model capitalistic healthcare system?

The United State of America, 1776 to 1965.

Why is it every right wing solution requires some group of human beings to die, or evaporate?

The United State of America, 1776 to 1965...America Before Medicare

47 MILLION…the number of Americans for whom Medicare provides comprehensive health care

51 PERCENT…the number of Americans 65 or older who did not have health care before Medicare was passed, while today virtually all elderly Americans have health care thanks to Medicare

30 PERCENT…the number of elderly Americans who lived in poverty before Medicare, a number now reduced to 7.5 PERCENT

72 PERCENT…the number of Americans in a recent poll who said that Medicare is “extremely” or “very” important to their retirement security

Medicare assures health care for seniors who might otherwise find health care inaccessible. It saves our government money. It makes the lives of our seniors better.

Two concepts inspired Medicare. First, seniors require more care than younger Americans. Second, seniors usually live on less income; many survive only on Social Security. This combination renders seniors extremely vulnerable to losing their savings, homes or lives from easily treatable diseases.

And Medicare provides good care. American life expectancy at birth ranks 30th in the world. We remain 30th for the rest of our lives -- until we reach 65. Then, our rank rises until we reach 14th at 80. We can thank the remarkable access to health care provided by Medicare.

Every industrialized nation guarantees health care for seniors. Indeed, we are unhappily distinctive in being the only industrialized nation that does not guarantee care for everyone else, as well. Medicare restores us to a civilized status.

Before Medicare, only 40 percent of nonworking seniors had health insurance, and of those with coverage, private insurance paid for less than 10 percent of their hospital bills. The principle of insuring only the healthy who consume little care and avoiding the sick has always driven our private insurance industry. No insurance company can make money by offering the same comprehensive, affordable coverage to seniors as Medicare, so they don't offer it. Our experience with Medicare Advantage, an effort to privatize parts of Medicare, resulted in our government spending $17 billion more for the same benefits available through Medicare. Our private insurance industry was in no hurry to insure seniors before Medicare started. They are in no hurry now. Medicare revolutionized health care access for seniors.

Why is Medicare expensive? Simply, health care for seniors will always cost more than that of healthier, younger Americans. And costs are rising in every health care system around the world, not just Medicare. The United States is doubly cursed because our costs are rising faster and are already twice as expensive as other countries. Though hard to believe, Medicare is a leader in fighting cost increases. Private insurance industry costs are rising nearly twice as fast as those of Medicare. And when it comes to administrative expenses, private insurance is 10 times higher than Medicare. In fact, if the single payer financing of Medicare were applied to citizens of all ages, we would save $350 billion annually, more than enough to provide comprehensive health care to every American.

Medicare is good for our seniors and good for our country. It provides health care far more affordably and efficiently than our private insurance industry. It saves our country hundreds of billions of dollars in administrative overhead. And if we expand Medicare to cover younger, healthier Americans, we would all get more care at less cost.

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[Luddly Neddite]

Which country has a model capitalistic healthcare system?
Just curious who we should model ourselves after.

Who should we model ourselves after???? Are you serious? We are the United States of America. WE are the country others want to imitate, not the other way around.

If there is an ideal capitalist health care system, we will find it if we can just get all those who'd rather we had socialistic health care, out of the way.

Well then Ernie this will take some thinking then if you say it has never worked anyplace else. What do you want? I like the idea of if you, your kid or your mother have no assests you do not get treated. Most people arehave no gumption though and couldn't live with the thought of the ambulance leaving whimpering folks in the streets.

So, you want some kind of forced welfare for your benefit?

False dichotomy.

Lack of socialized medical services doesn't mean that people won't get treatment, and the crap about ambulances leaving people "whimpering in the streets" is a bunch of brain dead, hyperbolic appeal to emotion.

So much for the notion that you might have wanted to have a serious and dispassionate discourse on the topic.

You live in Mitt's SOCIALIST LaLaLand where every one gets free care for everything at the emergency room and no one dies for lack of money or insurance.

He's wrong and so are you.

And all of you who hate brown people and seem to believe that all illegals are from Mexico - YOUR taxes pay for their free care, their free baby delivery and their free abortions.

And, every single one of you KNOWS that.

 

[Oddball]

Well then Ernie this will take some thinking then if you say it has never worked anyplace else. What do you want? I like the idea of if you, your kid or your mother have no assests you do not get treated. Most people arehave no gumption though and couldn't live with the thought of the ambulance leaving whimpering folks in the streets.

So, you want some kind of forced welfare for your benefit?

False dichotomy.

Lack of socialized medical services doesn't mean that people won't get treatment, and the crap about ambulances leaving people "whimpering in the streets" is a bunch of brain dead, hyperbolic appeal to emotion.

So much for the notion that you might have wanted to have a serious and dispassionate discourse on the topic.

You live in Mitt's SOCIALIST LaLaLand where every one gets free care for everything at the emergency room and no one dies for lack of money or insurance.

He's wrong and so are you.

And all of you who hate brown people and seem to believe that all illegals are from Mexico - YOUR taxes pay for their free care, their free baby delivery and their free abortions.

And, every single one of you KNOWS that.

Don't give a shit.

Fact remains that your party is so devoid of any ideas to do about anything that you're left with stealing shitty ideas from republicans, then claiming that you're saving the world....Which makes you stupider than Vinnie Vitalis.

 

[Greenbeard]

Just curious who we should model ourselves after.


America in the past is an answer but beware if you talk about the previous fifty years of our system that was some weird backend redistribution socialist network where freeloaders had the opportunity to be treated and I (maybe you also) paid for it.

No country currently has an imaginary health system, as far I can tell.

 

[Political Junky]

France, it's ranked #1 in the world.

And the emergency care I got in Brussels was just amazing.

Reading posts here, the rw's just refuse to EDUCATE THEMSELVES.

But the OP asked for "capitalistic" (and, presumably, free-market) models.

Most countries prohibit "for profit" health insurance.

 

[eflatminor]

And the emergency care I got in Brussels was just amazing.

Reading posts here, the rw's just refuse to EDUCATE THEMSELVES.

But the OP asked for "capitalistic" (and, presumably, free-market) models.

Most countries prohibit "for profit" health insurance.

True, and those same countries benefit tremendously from the technological, procedural, and drug-related medical advancements that our for-profit healthcare market has produced. Take away competition and voluntary investments into that market and you suppress the motivation to innovate and the capital means to do so.

 

[polarbear]

Michael Moore made a pro "Obama care" film just before the last election and has used Canada`s universal health care system as thee example how health care should work. We had universal health care for all since 1984 and since then we are trying to get rid of it because it just doesn`t work and nearly bankrupted us. Of course You can`t put a ceiling price on human life and the cost in $ is not really our main concern about universal health care.
It`s because people are loosing their lives while they are on the waiting lists for surgery and the same thing will happen in the U.S. when health care is under federal jurisdiction. Because it does not take long and Americans will also find out what happens next, as every country that has or had such a "Obama care" system did find out. No longer will doctors decide who qualifies for surgery and when, but Government bureaucracy, which controls the costs will. Since 1984 Canadians have been buying private health care insurance which cover the surgery they get almost immediately when they get desperate and get it done in the United States. And there are almost always charity drives happening for people who only have the mandatory Government universal health care insurance to get the surgery or other life saving treatment in the U.S.....for which the public health insurance refuses to pay. Many of us have been buying AMERICAN private insurance for that reason...!!
It`s not as if we don`t have the proper hospitals or qualified medical personnel in Canada, the problem is that the Government bureaucrats decide who will be for how long on the waiting list.
Doctors and medical clinics who had bypassed these bureaucrats have been prosecuted. As a result many of these doctors and clinics have moved into the U.S.
Once "Obama care" is fully implemented the same thing is going to happen in the U.S. and for the sake of the elderly or sick I hope that`s not going to happen.
To answer Your question "Which country has a model capitalistic healthcare system?"
I would say Alberta and Saskatchewan had it (for a while). We have Provinces instead of States and the 2 CONSERVATIVE (Your Republican equivalent) Provinces defied the former Liberal (= Your Democrat equivalent) federal Government and re-instituted a parallel private health care insurance and private clinics. The effect was that the waiting lists for public health care treatment got shorter because those who opted private no longer bottled up the public system.
Our federal "Democrats" then threatened these "Republican" Provinces to seize and desist else federal transfer payments would be denied.
Which was a joke, because all the other "Democrat" Provinces ran a deficit and had been propped up by the "Republican" Provinces which had their fiscal house in order. But then the courts got in on the act and started enforcing "Obama" laws.
Now we have a majority conservative government and they are trying to transfer health care jurisdiction back to Provincial jurisdiction,...just as Romney is advocating. Most of us in Western Canada wish that arch left wing Quebec would separate and take their outrageous deficit for which we are paying with them.
Left wing Ontario might as well be cut loose too that Province is the same mill stone round our neck as Greece is to the European Union.
They went from the wealthiest resource and industrial Province to a "have not" status in no time after they went "Democrat".
Now their "economy" is based on "stimulus" and public sector "jobs" for which the rest of Canada is supposed to pay for...just like in Obama`s "plan"