What Liberal News Sources Aren't Telling You About the IG Report

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

How do you figure that they were "rightfully concerned?" After a slew of investigations and tons of money they still have NOTHING. I know your handlers are telling you something different, but those are cold hard facts.

Hard cold facts- 17 intelligence agencies said Russia tried to interfere in our election.

Funny you think Trump has done something but the Hillary email scam, which she CLEARLY did, doesn't mean anythiing. She deleted a bunch of emails to keep them from being found, but hey, that is cool and totally legal.(not) You guys are deranged.

Okay, um... most people delete old emails when they are done with them. In fact, it's a good practice to delete old emails.

If she hadn't deleted them, you'd have claimed she was retaining information she no longer needed.

this bullshit again.

FOUR SAID IT - the rest had nothing to do with it but just went with "echo chamber" talk.

for hillarys mails - if trump did this very same thing you would NOT be defending the practice. besides, as soon as she used it for gov business she must comply with gov laws WHICH INCLUDE email retention policies.

also:
https://sharylattkisson.com/2016/11...mmary-of-fbi-report-on-hillary-clinton-email/

Feb. 1, 2013: Hillary’s last day as secretary of state. She fails to produce her federal records as required by law.

Summer of 2014: State Dept. notifies Hillary aide Cheryl Mills that it will be requesting Hillary’s work emails.

March 3, 2015: House Benghazi committee requests Hillary attorneys at Williams & Connolly to preserve and produce all documents and media related to her two clintonemail.com known addresses. (NOTE - ALL DOCUMENTS AND MEDIA)

Oct. 28, 2015: State Dept. sends formal request to Hillary and other former secretaries asking for their work-related emails. Hillary directs attorneys Kendall and Mills to oversee.

and:
Bombshell: In Newly-Released Email, Hillary Orders Aide to Strip Classified Marking

if you're just cleaning up old mail, why try to strip header information? please tell me a good burger king whopper as to how this is ok.

god damn you do just make this up as needed.

Numerous people in the Trump administration, including his children, have been using non-government emails and messaging apps to conduct official business with no oversight.

So its it ok or is it not ok? If it is NOT ok then Hillary should be convicted along with the folks you are accusing in the Trump administration. If you don't think Hillary should have been held accountable, then I guess you don
t have a beef now either.

No one is getting convicted unless you show intent they are doing so to avoid accountability which is pretty hard to show.

No intent! You are like Comey and need to take that comedy act on the road!

 

[iceberg]

i am not going to play this @gmail.com vs. my own private server game crap. been in IT for 30+ years and know the differences. go do the "i'm a dumbass" dance elsewhere.

Sure there’s differences but when it comes to government use and record keeping, there are no differences. (Oh and Trump’s kids don’t just use Gmail accounts, they have their own private servers).

link on the private server.

Trump's most senior staff use a private email server

if this is the RNC server as the article states, it's not a private server sitting in their basement now is it? and as long as they are following the laws around this and FW'd the mail to where they should be FW'd so copies can be seen by anyone at any time, who cares?

It was more than just the RNC email server.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...15d1e0-e7a1-11e8-a939-9469f1166f9d_story.html

Who can tell if they’re following the laws and FW’d copies of all relevant emails? It’s impossible to oversee and depends entirely on trust.

then they should go check and make sure they are. hold them accountable. why you think i only want 1 side to be held accountable is beyond me. if they are doing something wrong, stop them. call them on it.

but you have zero idea, you just need the cover to hide behind.

You’re assuming to know what I want.

I don’t actually care that much about any of this. I don’t see Clinton or Trump’s use of private email servers to be any sort of malicious or sinister behavior. It’s done out of convenience for people who have an extremely challenging job (although I don’t actually know what Ivanka does so maybe not her). I find it very far fetched that Clinton could be hiding some grand conspiracy (ala Pizzagate) in an email account. No one at that level is that stupid.

Look, the government is enormous. Just enormous. It doesn’t matter if you like that, that’s just the way it is. I don’t find capturing every scrap of info on every email written every day is going to add much of anything to good governance. Not that we shouldn’t try, I’m just not going to get my pants in a wad if we capture 98% of all communications and not 100%. We aren’t going to put government minders on every employee who’s job it is to monitor all their communications. That’s creepy.

Anyway, that’s my opinion. Feel free to challenge it and I have no problem defending it.

the use of a server i don't care about either.

deleting 33k messages after looking to alter e-mail headers and then bleachbitting the drive ALL AFTER she was asked for ALL OF HER MAIL is what i have issue with.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

this bullshit again.

FOUR SAID IT - the rest had nothing to do with it but just went with "echo chamber" talk.

for hillarys mails - if trump did this very same thing you would NOT be defending the practice. besides, as soon as she used it for gov business she must comply with gov laws WHICH INCLUDE email retention policies.

also:
https://sharylattkisson.com/2016/11...mmary-of-fbi-report-on-hillary-clinton-email/

Feb. 1, 2013: Hillary’s last day as secretary of state. She fails to produce her federal records as required by law.

Summer of 2014: State Dept. notifies Hillary aide Cheryl Mills that it will be requesting Hillary’s work emails.

March 3, 2015: House Benghazi committee requests Hillary attorneys at Williams & Connolly to preserve and produce all documents and media related to her two clintonemail.com known addresses. (NOTE - ALL DOCUMENTS AND MEDIA)

Oct. 28, 2015: State Dept. sends formal request to Hillary and other former secretaries asking for their work-related emails. Hillary directs attorneys Kendall and Mills to oversee.

and:
Bombshell: In Newly-Released Email, Hillary Orders Aide to Strip Classified Marking

if you're just cleaning up old mail, why try to strip header information? please tell me a good burger king whopper as to how this is ok.

god damn you do just make this up as needed.

Numerous people in the Trump administration, including his children, have been using non-government emails and messaging apps to conduct official business with no oversight.

i am not going to play this @gmail.com vs. my own private server game crap. been in IT for 30+ years and know the differences. go do the "i'm a dumbass" dance elsewhere.

Sure there’s differences but when it comes to government use and record keeping, there are no differences. (Oh and Trump’s kids don’t just use Gmail accounts, they have their own private servers).

link on the private server.

Trump's most senior staff use a private email server

if this is the RNC server as the article states, it's not a private server sitting in their basement now is it? and as long as they are following the laws around this and FW'd the mail to where they should be FW'd so copies can be seen by anyone at any time, who cares?

It was more than just the RNC email server.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...15d1e0-e7a1-11e8-a939-9469f1166f9d_story.html

Who can tell if they’re following the laws and FW’d copies of all relevant emails? It’s impossible to oversee and depends entirely on trust.

Those people mentioned are RNC so they have every right to conduct RNC business on RNC servers. In fact, conducting political activity on US government email is illegal, dumbass!

 

[Paulie]

As expected, the liberal news outlets are in full spin and distortion mode about the Justice Department's IG report on the FBI's Russian-collusion-Trump investigation. If anyone bothers to read even just the report's executive summary, one finds that the report is hardly an exoneration of the FBI and the FISA memo. Liberal news sources such as the New York Times and Washington Post, not to mention CNN and MSNBC, have pounced on the finding that the investigation was not politically motivated, but they have ignored virtually everything else in the report because the report documents, among other things, that the FISA memo was full of lies.

Uh, guy, that pretty much describes every warrant ever issued to any law enforcement agency. What is a warrant? A warrant is a list of what you suspect you MIGHT find if you are allowed to look.

Uh, guy, when presenting a case to a judge for a warrant you don’t continually use evidence that has been repeatedly determined to be uncorroborated. That’s what we here in the US call abusing the constitutional process. Nice try though.

 

[colfax_m]

Sure there’s differences but when it comes to government use and record keeping, there are no differences. (Oh and Trump’s kids don’t just use Gmail accounts, they have their own private servers).

link on the private server.

Trump's most senior staff use a private email server

if this is the RNC server as the article states, it's not a private server sitting in their basement now is it? and as long as they are following the laws around this and FW'd the mail to where they should be FW'd so copies can be seen by anyone at any time, who cares?

It was more than just the RNC email server.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...15d1e0-e7a1-11e8-a939-9469f1166f9d_story.html

Who can tell if they’re following the laws and FW’d copies of all relevant emails? It’s impossible to oversee and depends entirely on trust.

then they should go check and make sure they are. hold them accountable. why you think i only want 1 side to be held accountable is beyond me. if they are doing something wrong, stop them. call them on it.

but you have zero idea, you just need the cover to hide behind.

You’re assuming to know what I want.

I don’t actually care that much about any of this. I don’t see Clinton or Trump’s use of private email servers to be any sort of malicious or sinister behavior. It’s done out of convenience for people who have an extremely challenging job (although I don’t actually know what Ivanka does so maybe not her). I find it very far fetched that Clinton could be hiding some grand conspiracy (ala Pizzagate) in an email account. No one at that level is that stupid.

Look, the government is enormous. Just enormous. It doesn’t matter if you like that, that’s just the way it is. I don’t find capturing every scrap of info on every email written every day is going to add much of anything to good governance. Not that we shouldn’t try, I’m just not going to get my pants in a wad if we capture 98% of all communications and not 100%. We aren’t going to put government minders on every employee who’s job it is to monitor all their communications. That’s creepy.

Anyway, that’s my opinion. Feel free to challenge it and I have no problem defending it.

the use of a server i don't care about either.

deleting 33k messages after looking to alter e-mail headers and then bleachbitting the drive ALL AFTER she was asked for ALL OF HER MAIL is what i have issue with.

She wasn’t asked for all her email. She was asked for all her work email. Clinton told her lawyer to sort through them. The process her lawyer went through was a reasonable one, although not perfect.

I don’t actually know what you mean by altering email headers.

If you’re concerned about the deletion after the congressional subpoena, I agree that’s a problem but was looked at by the FBI and that decision was made by her technician.

 

[iceberg]

link on the private server.

Trump's most senior staff use a private email server

if this is the RNC server as the article states, it's not a private server sitting in their basement now is it? and as long as they are following the laws around this and FW'd the mail to where they should be FW'd so copies can be seen by anyone at any time, who cares?

It was more than just the RNC email server.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...15d1e0-e7a1-11e8-a939-9469f1166f9d_story.html

Who can tell if they’re following the laws and FW’d copies of all relevant emails? It’s impossible to oversee and depends entirely on trust.

then they should go check and make sure they are. hold them accountable. why you think i only want 1 side to be held accountable is beyond me. if they are doing something wrong, stop them. call them on it.

but you have zero idea, you just need the cover to hide behind.

You’re assuming to know what I want.

I don’t actually care that much about any of this. I don’t see Clinton or Trump’s use of private email servers to be any sort of malicious or sinister behavior. It’s done out of convenience for people who have an extremely challenging job (although I don’t actually know what Ivanka does so maybe not her). I find it very far fetched that Clinton could be hiding some grand conspiracy (ala Pizzagate) in an email account. No one at that level is that stupid.

Look, the government is enormous. Just enormous. It doesn’t matter if you like that, that’s just the way it is. I don’t find capturing every scrap of info on every email written every day is going to add much of anything to good governance. Not that we shouldn’t try, I’m just not going to get my pants in a wad if we capture 98% of all communications and not 100%. We aren’t going to put government minders on every employee who’s job it is to monitor all their communications. That’s creepy.

Anyway, that’s my opinion. Feel free to challenge it and I have no problem defending it.

the use of a server i don't care about either.

deleting 33k messages after looking to alter e-mail headers and then bleachbitting the drive ALL AFTER she was asked for ALL OF HER MAIL is what i have issue with.

She wasn’t asked for all her email. She was asked for all her work email. Clinton told her lawyer to sort through them. The process her lawyer went through was a reasonable one, although not perfect.

I don’t actually know what you mean by altering email headers.

If you’re concerned about the deletion after the congressional subpoena, I agree that’s a problem but was looked at by the FBI and that decision was made by her technician.

and in this position, you're assuming she ONLY deleted "personal" mail. how do we know? sorry, but if i tell you we suspect you of child porn and want your computer, you don't get to delete "personal" stuff first. IF YOU DO that's a HUGE flag.

and look at the timeline, as soon as others found out about her server, she decided suddenly "old e-mail" doesn't need to be kept. she sent like 8 copies when ALL was requested.

we also found she lied, a lot, about what was sent through the server and she also told her employees to strip CLASSIFIED off mail and send it anyway.

yet all this is excused away.

e-mail headers. best way i can say it is open your e-mail and if you can get to the properties of it, you'll see a lot of "code" for lack of a better term. this "code" tells you who sent it, via which server, where it was going, and other info about the mail. sorta like "meta" info about each message. she was looking to see if this could be altered. well, her IT guy who also posted about how to permanently delete mail in 4chan i believe. maybe reddit. but he hit up a forum and made a post that he had a high profile person and he needed to wipe the drive PERMANENTLY clean - how could he do that?

you don't go through all this for YOGA e-mails.

The "Oh Shit" Moment: Hillary Wiped Her Server With BleachBit Despite Subpoena

look at the timeline. they supeoned ALL of her e-mail. the bleachbitting began.

i would ask if you'd be ok if trump did all this and i'm sure you'll say "sure" - but i wouldn't believe you. hey, it's a friday and i'm feeling froggy -

would you be ok if trump did all this to his private server after all info was asked for off of it?

as for FBI cleared her - look at the FBI today and all the lies they have gone through. i don't exactly call them credible these days. at least not that set involved in all this.

HOWEVER - if you want to go this route of an "official" stamp - Barr said trump phone call was fine. nothing wrong. certainly nothing to get mad about.

yet, all we hear is barr is trumps stooge so i don't see "honoring" this "official stamp". do you?

 

[Hellokitty]

IMO the biggest issue should be that the FBI investigation into Russian collusion with the TRUMP campaign found no collusion!!!

It's one thing for the FBI to make mistakes in an investigation but still prove their case. In this instance the FBI made clearly intentional corrupt judgements against the TRUMP campaign and were WRONG!!!

 

[bripat9643]

How do you figure that they were "rightfully concerned?" After a slew of investigations and tons of money they still have NOTHING. I know your handlers are telling you something different, but those are cold hard facts.

Hard cold facts- 17 intelligence agencies said Russia tried to interfere in our election.

Wrong. You mean Comey, Brennan and Clapper said Russia interfered in our elections.

 

[JoeB131]

Yeah, Russians tried to interfere. Why wasn't the FBI concerned with checking into Hillary and the DNC?

Hillary deleted and perminently wiped emails AFTER the server was subpoened by the court. Na, she wasn't trying to cover anything up. I swear you guys will believe anything.

If she did, why did they keep finding her emails?

This entire farce will go down in history as a major abuse of power by Adam Schiff, who hopefully will be held accountable for lying and setting up this entire scam with the "whistleblower." Only you dense Democrats believe otherwise.

Uh, guy, 70% think Trump did something wrong in the Ukraine.

70% of Americans say Trump’s actions tied to Ukraine were wrong: POLL

An overwhelming 70% of Americans think President Donald Trump’s request to a foreign leader to investigate his political rival, which sits at the heart of the House of Representatives' impeachment inquiry, was wrong, a new ABC News/Ipsos poll finds.

 

[JoeB131]

Wrong. You mean Comey, Brennan and Clapper said Russia interfered in our elections.

Yes, which they backed up with evidence....

 

[JoeB131]

They dont care. Democrats are beyond reproach, plus their handlers on the MSM wouldn't approve.

We don't care because it isn't that important.

Colin Powell and Condi Rice also did business on private accounts... When Colin Powell was asked to produce some of the emails he sent regarding how we went to war with Iraq, he just gave a big shrug and said he didn't have them anymore.

You guys had EIGHT investigations into Benghazi... and they all came to the same conclusion. That no one really could have anticipated what happened, and Mrs. Clinton did nothing wrong. .

 

[bripat9643]

Wrong. You mean Comey, Brennan and Clapper said Russia interfered in our elections.

Yes, which they backed up with evidence....

No one has denied that the Russian's tried to interfere in our election. They have tried to interfere in everyone of our elections. The issue is whether Trump "colluded" with them, and that claim has always been rubbish.

 

[JoeB131]

No one has denied that the Russian's tried to interfere in our election. They have tried to interfere in everyone of our elections. The issue is whether Trump "colluded" with them, and that claim has always been rubbish.

Then let's see Trump's tax returns, and see how much money he owes the Russians.

 

[bripat9643]

No one has denied that the Russian's tried to interfere in our election. They have tried to interfere in everyone of our elections. The issue is whether Trump "colluded" with them, and that claim has always been rubbish.

Then let's see Trump's tax returns, and see how much money he owes the Russians.

Let's see your tax returns, douchebag.

 

[hadit]

No one has denied that the Russian's tried to interfere in our election. They have tried to interfere in everyone of our elections. The issue is whether Trump "colluded" with them, and that claim has always been rubbish.

Then let's see Trump's tax returns, and see how much money he owes the Russians.

You wouldn't know how to read his tax returns, and they don't show debt. They show income, which isn't debt. But keep hope alive.

 

[CWayne]

The FBI withheld information from the FISA court that they felt was damning to their case and may prevent them from getting the warrant. That is all you need to know about whether or not they had a motive. if they were truly just trying to get to the bottom of things, they would release all information, but they merely wanted to get Trump. They were acting as prosecutors against Trump vs investigators. It is obvious to anyone who doesn't have TDS.

It appears that on top of the fact that they knew they could not get a warrant without the Dosier, they continued to apply using the same fraudulent document after they learned that the document was salacious and fraudulent. That alone points to political motivation and bias.

 

[JoeB131]

You wouldn't know how to read his tax returns, and they don't show debt. They show income, which isn't debt. But keep hope alive.

Again, what's he hiding?

 

[basquebromance]

"So now Comey’s admitting he was wrong. Wow, but he’s only doing so because he got caught red handed. He was actually caught a long time ago. So what are the consequences for his unlawful conduct. Could it be years in jail? Where are the apologies to me and others, Jim?" - President Trump

 

[hadit]

You wouldn't know how to read his tax returns, and they don't show debt. They show income, which isn't debt. But keep hope alive.

Again, what's he hiding?

Who knows? Until you get credible evidence of a tax related crime being committed, you won't know. But feel free to speculate.

And again, how do you expect to find if someone owes "The Russians" anything by looking at his tax returns? Which schedule shows that?

 

[JoeB131]

Who knows? Until you get credible evidence of a tax related crime being committed, you won't know. But feel free to speculate.

And again, how do you expect to find if someone owes "The Russians" anything by looking at his tax returns? Which schedule shows that?

Probably schedule A... who loaned him money and how much is he paying in interest.... But it's okay, just keep asking the same stupid question like Corky the Retard.