What is “Trumpism”?

[Indeependent]

Adoration of an authoritarian nationalist strongman.

Arrogant ignorance, bigotry, paranoia, tribalism -- disguised as patriotism.

Unintentional mockery of "conservative values" and "small government".

Yeah. That's about it.

Are you sure it’s not just a fed up and retaliatory Right that has been given a label by ‘paranoid’ Leftists in an attempt to shut them back up?

There are many on the right, conservatives that are very much against Trump. His method of governing is toxic and people of all ideologies can recognize that.

his enemies are in open insurrection in the streets. that is "toxic" and "divisive".

if you consider trump the bad guy right now, you are the problem, not him.

I agree that many of Trump opponents are engaging in dishonest and unacceptable behavior. But if you don’t think Trump is neck deep in that crap then you are blind. I know the tactic is accuse the accusers instead of taking responsibility but you’re not fooling anybody with that tactic

the resist call went out before trump took office. before trump took office, federal agents were lying to judges to get warrants against him.


mayors are ordering the cops to stand down, so rioters can rule the streets and terrorize law abiding citizens.

innocent citizens are being arrested for defending themselves against violent mobs.


TRump is not the problem. the problem is that a significant portion of the left, is no longer respecting the peaceful transfer of power.

That’s a very skewed and dishonest representation of history you’re presenting there. Some of those points we’ve debated in the past. Sounds like you’re dug in on that narrative but that’s just not how I see it. I guess that’s just how it is during these divided times

teh resist call went out, almost immediately after the election.


that is not me being "dishonest", that is the truth.

TRump is not the problem. the problem is that a significant portion of the left, is no longer respecting the peaceful transfer of power.

Yes a call went out as soon as Trump was elected just as a call went out to stop Obama right after he was elected and just as the wings of every party activate to challenge the opposition when they gain power. But Trump owns the intensity of this battle and has fueled both his resistance and his followers with his rhetoric and method of attack. Smart leaders don’t give attention to the noise makers and they focus on the important things. As you can see clearly in this board, the conversation has devolved to grade school levels. The partisan haters who love to attack are emboldened and they love Trump because he propagates these type of fights. I don’t know why these people think a divided America that hates eachother is a better America than one that is unified but that seems to be the trend. That’s what Trumpism is all about

The moment Trump became a candidate, the CNN App called Trump every name under the son.
CNN was playing to the Rock The Vote crowd.

So what? Trump is a very insulting and controversial person. Very easily disliked. It’s not a mystery why so many people show distain for him and his method of governing.

It funny how Trump isn't like that on Hannity; only when he's be confronted by Liberal asshole reporters.
How else does one govern when American jobs are being taken by non-Americans and both parties want it that way?

 

[dblack]

Trump is an authoritarian Nationalist, but he mixes in quite a bit of racism, sexism and xenophobia.

He is basically a Dictator-in-Training, and if given free-reign would GLADLY take over this nation.

He tries to wrap himself in patriotism, but he is far from being a patriot when all he thinks about is himself.

Where the heck do you whackadoodles find authoritarianism? Seriously. If you buy the Trump is an evil insert 'ism' then you have simply become a victim of decades long smearing. I guess if you hear it often enough, even rational people will eventually succumb. You also might want to clean out your house. Biden actually says racist stuff on a regular basis, and half the leadership in Virginia got away with wearing black face.

You really don’t understand the relation between Trump and authoritarianism?! Seriously?

They really, really don't. Really.

Group pathology, I'm tellin' ya.

Imagine what it's like for a Libertarian listening to these jackasses.

 

[Mac1958]

Trump is an authoritarian Nationalist, but he mixes in quite a bit of racism, sexism and xenophobia.

He is basically a Dictator-in-Training, and if given free-reign would GLADLY take over this nation.

He tries to wrap himself in patriotism, but he is far from being a patriot when all he thinks about is himself.

Where the heck do you whackadoodles find authoritarianism? Seriously. If you buy the Trump is an evil insert 'ism' then you have simply become a victim of decades long smearing. I guess if you hear it often enough, even rational people will eventually succumb. You also might want to clean out your house. Biden actually says racist stuff on a regular basis, and half the leadership in Virginia got away with wearing black face.

You really don’t understand the relation between Trump and authoritarianism?! Seriously?

They really, really don't. Really.

Group pathology, I'm tellin' ya.

Imagine what it's like for a Libertarian listening to these jackasses.

Well, they've soiled pretty much everything.

 

[Indeependent]

Trump is an authoritarian Nationalist, but he mixes in quite a bit of racism, sexism and xenophobia.

He is basically a Dictator-in-Training, and if given free-reign would GLADLY take over this nation.

He tries to wrap himself in patriotism, but he is far from being a patriot when all he thinks about is himself.

Where the heck do you whackadoodles find authoritarianism? Seriously. If you buy the Trump is an evil insert 'ism' then you have simply become a victim of decades long smearing. I guess if you hear it often enough, even rational people will eventually succumb. You also might want to clean out your house. Biden actually says racist stuff on a regular basis, and half the leadership in Virginia got away with wearing black face.

You really don’t understand the relation between Trump and authoritarianism?! Seriously?

The fact that Trump has to be an authoritarian to MAGA?
Part of me wants another GW to totally destroy the slums.

Trump doesn’t have to be anything. He is what he is... I’m just looking for an honest discussion. So when I hear people denying the relation between Trump and authoritarianism I can only scratch my head

Trump is not like that when he's with a non-combative audience.
I’m just looking for an honest discussion, but when I'm having a discussion with someone that won't watch anything but CNN and MSNBC, I know I'm not having an honest discussion.

 

[dblack]

Trump is an authoritarian Nationalist, but he mixes in quite a bit of racism, sexism and xenophobia.

He is basically a Dictator-in-Training, and if given free-reign would GLADLY take over this nation.

He tries to wrap himself in patriotism, but he is far from being a patriot when all he thinks about is himself.

Where the heck do you whackadoodles find authoritarianism? Seriously. If you buy the Trump is an evil insert 'ism' then you have simply become a victim of decades long smearing. I guess if you hear it often enough, even rational people will eventually succumb. You also might want to clean out your house. Biden actually says racist stuff on a regular basis, and half the leadership in Virginia got away with wearing black face.

You really don’t understand the relation between Trump and authoritarianism?! Seriously?

They really, really don't. Really.

Group pathology, I'm tellin' ya.

Imagine what it's like for a Libertarian listening to these jackasses.

Well, they've soiled pretty much everything.

Including themselves.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

 

[Correll]

Adoration of an authoritarian nationalist strongman.

Arrogant ignorance, bigotry, paranoia, tribalism -- disguised as patriotism.

Unintentional mockery of "conservative values" and "small government".

Day-to-day existence within an ideological bubble that considers any "news" or "information" not provided within that bubble to be "fake news".

Yeah. That's about it.

That's pretty good. I was just going to describe it as knee-jerk dime-store patriotism for the slogan susceptible masses, so they do not have to think, only emotionally feel the orange thrill down the back of their leg. Yours is better.

nothing wrong with patriotism. i'm proud to be a patriotic American.


and the "thrill down the leg", was one of yours, not ours.


funny you got that confused.

Shoot, I'm a patriot. Lots of patriots on this board of different political strip or philosophical position. Most are not just MAGA-pies, though.

if you were a patriot, you would not be offended by trump's patriotism or the patriotism of his supporters.

Not offended by trumps patriotism because I recognize it does not exist. Kind of offended by how the trumpets were fooled by his false sloganeering pseudo-patriotism, accepting it for actually caring about the country, instead of the reality of him only caring about himself and what the country can do for his business model.

i am a life long patriot, and i find his patriotism to be fine.

from his American First bias on policy to his standing up against the asshole kneelers, his patriotism rings true to me.

that he is wealthy, is not a problem for me, as it seems to be for you. i've met plenty of good people that had a bit of money.

Met and run around with plenty of wealthy people as friends, (not that I am wealthy) mostly good people. None of them used patriotism or false patriotism to enhance their wealth as a main thrust of being a patriot. This is how I view trump, specifically and his relation to patriotism.

can you give an example of him using "patriotism" to make money? cause, i don't see him making money over being pro-us trade interests or deporting illegals, or calling out the kneelers.


to be fair, your positions sounds just made up based on your hate of the guy.

He uses patriotism falsely to stoke his supporters, but everything he does in office, from crony appointments to support of our enemies is for benefit of trump fortunes now and in the future. Thee is good money in making dictators and national enemies owe you personally a favor, even if they do hate your country. Look for a trump tower and resort coming to a beligerant anti-American country soon after he leaves office in January. I understand he offered Putin a penthouse suite.

i asked for an example and i got vague generalizations.


pretty much what i expected.


you can't back up your claim.


trump's patriotism is fine. "America First in trade and immigration policy" should be plank one is what is trumpism.

Hollow sounding, with more H1Bs than any other administration, less deportations and concentrating on the wall when most illegals here have just purposely overstayed visas, not climbed a fence or walked in across a desert. ...

about half came across the border. pretending that is not relevant to the problem, is you lying.


Trump's patriotism is fine.

That is one of the problems with "you people" if someone says something you do not agree with, you feel it is your right and honor call them a liar whether anyone has attacked you or not. I suppose it is probably because you think nothing of lying as your leader thinks nothing of intentionally lying. You are the product of bad upbringing or no upbringing. It is a character flaw, you choose to exhibit. Nothing to be done about it on the internet, but I suggest you do not do it to strangers in a Tennessee beer joint as you will likely learn better unless you are the biggest badass to walk into a bar. In that case you might get shot instead of an educational ass whipping.

it is not credible that you think that half of the problem is not worth addressing.

I honestly and without the intent of lying to anybody did not and unless shown authoritative number of people from other countries in our country without proper authorization, do not believe that to be the case. At least it was not the case 4 years ago, and that was the last time I did the search. I do believe boarder crossings to be a bigger problem now than then, but do not think the total here in the country as changed to support your position at this time. Not that I think you are lying on purpose, I simply do not believe it is accurate.

the amount of crossers vs over stayers has varied over time. they two numbers are pretty evenly split and both are huge numbers.


there is no reason to doubt the patriotism of trump, because he talked a lot about the wall.


that makes no sense at all.

 

[Slade3200]

Adoration of an authoritarian nationalist strongman.

Arrogant ignorance, bigotry, paranoia, tribalism -- disguised as patriotism.

Unintentional mockery of "conservative values" and "small government".

Yeah. That's about it.

Are you sure it’s not just a fed up and retaliatory Right that has been given a label by ‘paranoid’ Leftists in an attempt to shut them back up?

There are many on the right, conservatives that are very much against Trump. His method of governing is toxic and people of all ideologies can recognize that.

his enemies are in open insurrection in the streets. that is "toxic" and "divisive".

if you consider trump the bad guy right now, you are the problem, not him.

I agree that many of Trump opponents are engaging in dishonest and unacceptable behavior. But if you don’t think Trump is neck deep in that crap then you are blind. I know the tactic is accuse the accusers instead of taking responsibility but you’re not fooling anybody with that tactic

the resist call went out before trump took office. before trump took office, federal agents were lying to judges to get warrants against him.


mayors are ordering the cops to stand down, so rioters can rule the streets and terrorize law abiding citizens.

innocent citizens are being arrested for defending themselves against violent mobs.


TRump is not the problem. the problem is that a significant portion of the left, is no longer respecting the peaceful transfer of power.

That’s a very skewed and dishonest representation of history you’re presenting there. Some of those points we’ve debated in the past. Sounds like you’re dug in on that narrative but that’s just not how I see it. I guess that’s just how it is during these divided times

teh resist call went out, almost immediately after the election.


that is not me being "dishonest", that is the truth.

TRump is not the problem. the problem is that a significant portion of the left, is no longer respecting the peaceful transfer of power.

Yes a call went out as soon as Trump was elected just as a call went out to stop Obama right after he was elected and just as the wings of every party activate to challenge the opposition when they gain power. But Trump owns the intensity of this battle and has fueled both his resistance and his followers with his rhetoric and method of attack. Smart leaders don’t give attention to the noise makers and they focus on the important things. As you can see clearly in this board, the conversation has devolved to grade school levels. The partisan haters who love to attack are emboldened and they love Trump because he propagates these type of fights. I don’t know why these people think a divided America that hates eachother is a better America than one that is unified but that seems to be the trend. That’s what Trumpism is all about

The moment Trump became a candidate, the CNN App called Trump every name under the son.
CNN was playing to the Rock The Vote crowd.

So what? Trump is a very insulting and controversial person. Very easily disliked. It’s not a mystery why so many people show distain for him and his method of governing.

It funny how Trump isn't like that on Hannity; only when he's be confronted by Liberal asshole reporters.
How else does one govern when American jobs are being taken by non-Americans and both parties want it that way?

One should govern in an honest and unifying way. Of course Trump acts insulting on Hannity. Despite the softball questions and open mic to boast he takes every opportunity he can to blame and attack his political opponents.

 

[Correll]

Adoration of an authoritarian nationalist strongman.

Arrogant ignorance, bigotry, paranoia, tribalism -- disguised as patriotism.

Unintentional mockery of "conservative values" and "small government".

Yeah. That's about it.

Are you sure it’s not just a fed up and retaliatory Right that has been given a label by ‘paranoid’ Leftists in an attempt to shut them back up?

There are many on the right, conservatives that are very much against Trump. His method of governing is toxic and people of all ideologies can recognize that.

his enemies are in open insurrection in the streets. that is "toxic" and "divisive".

if you consider trump the bad guy right now, you are the problem, not him.

I agree that many of Trump opponents are engaging in dishonest and unacceptable behavior. But if you don’t think Trump is neck deep in that crap then you are blind. I know the tactic is accuse the accusers instead of taking responsibility but you’re not fooling anybody with that tactic

the resist call went out before trump took office. before trump took office, federal agents were lying to judges to get warrants against him.


mayors are ordering the cops to stand down, so rioters can rule the streets and terrorize law abiding citizens.

innocent citizens are being arrested for defending themselves against violent mobs.


TRump is not the problem. the problem is that a significant portion of the left, is no longer respecting the peaceful transfer of power.

That’s a very skewed and dishonest representation of history you’re presenting there. Some of those points we’ve debated in the past. Sounds like you’re dug in on that narrative but that’s just not how I see it. I guess that’s just how it is during these divided times

teh resist call went out, almost immediately after the election.


that is not me being "dishonest", that is the truth.

TRump is not the problem. the problem is that a significant portion of the left, is no longer respecting the peaceful transfer of power.

Yes a call went out as soon as Trump was elected just as a call went out to stop Obama right after he was elected and just as the wings of every party activate to challenge the opposition when they gain power. But Trump owns the intensity of this battle and has fueled both his resistance and his followers with his rhetoric and method of attack. Smart leaders don’t give attention to the noise makers and they focus on the important things. As you can see clearly in this board, the conversation has devolved to grade school levels. The partisan haters who love to attack are emboldened and they love Trump because he propagates these type of fights. I don’t know why these people think a divided America that hates eachother is a better America than one that is unified but that seems to be the trend. That’s what Trumpism is all about

big difference between the republicans planning a partisan, and political fight to make obama a one termer,


and your side refusing to respect the peaceful transfer of power.


that you blame others, for your behavior, is understandable. if i was you, i would not want to be held accountable for the shit your side has done either.

 

[Slade3200]

Trump is an authoritarian Nationalist, but he mixes in quite a bit of racism, sexism and xenophobia.

He is basically a Dictator-in-Training, and if given free-reign would GLADLY take over this nation.

He tries to wrap himself in patriotism, but he is far from being a patriot when all he thinks about is himself.

Where the heck do you whackadoodles find authoritarianism? Seriously. If you buy the Trump is an evil insert 'ism' then you have simply become a victim of decades long smearing. I guess if you hear it often enough, even rational people will eventually succumb. You also might want to clean out your house. Biden actually says racist stuff on a regular basis, and half the leadership in Virginia got away with wearing black face.

You really don’t understand the relation between Trump and authoritarianism?! Seriously?

The fact that Trump has to be an authoritarian to MAGA?
Part of me wants another GW to totally destroy the slums.

Trump doesn’t have to be anything. He is what he is... I’m just looking for an honest discussion. So when I hear people denying the relation between Trump and authoritarianism I can only scratch my head

Trump is not like that when he's with a non-combative audience.
I’m just looking for an honest discussion, but when I'm having a discussion with someone that won't watch anything but CNN and MSNBC, I know I'm not having an honest discussion.

I watch more Fox than CNN and MSNBC. I listen to Beck, Hannity and Levine in the car. Do I qualify as somebody worthy of conversing with?

 

[Slade3200]

Adoration of an authoritarian nationalist strongman.

Arrogant ignorance, bigotry, paranoia, tribalism -- disguised as patriotism.

Unintentional mockery of "conservative values" and "small government".

Yeah. That's about it.

Are you sure it’s not just a fed up and retaliatory Right that has been given a label by ‘paranoid’ Leftists in an attempt to shut them back up?

There are many on the right, conservatives that are very much against Trump. His method of governing is toxic and people of all ideologies can recognize that.

his enemies are in open insurrection in the streets. that is "toxic" and "divisive".

if you consider trump the bad guy right now, you are the problem, not him.

I agree that many of Trump opponents are engaging in dishonest and unacceptable behavior. But if you don’t think Trump is neck deep in that crap then you are blind. I know the tactic is accuse the accusers instead of taking responsibility but you’re not fooling anybody with that tactic

the resist call went out before trump took office. before trump took office, federal agents were lying to judges to get warrants against him.


mayors are ordering the cops to stand down, so rioters can rule the streets and terrorize law abiding citizens.

innocent citizens are being arrested for defending themselves against violent mobs.


TRump is not the problem. the problem is that a significant portion of the left, is no longer respecting the peaceful transfer of power.

That’s a very skewed and dishonest representation of history you’re presenting there. Some of those points we’ve debated in the past. Sounds like you’re dug in on that narrative but that’s just not how I see it. I guess that’s just how it is during these divided times

teh resist call went out, almost immediately after the election.


that is not me being "dishonest", that is the truth.

TRump is not the problem. the problem is that a significant portion of the left, is no longer respecting the peaceful transfer of power.

Yes a call went out as soon as Trump was elected just as a call went out to stop Obama right after he was elected and just as the wings of every party activate to challenge the opposition when they gain power. But Trump owns the intensity of this battle and has fueled both his resistance and his followers with his rhetoric and method of attack. Smart leaders don’t give attention to the noise makers and they focus on the important things. As you can see clearly in this board, the conversation has devolved to grade school levels. The partisan haters who love to attack are emboldened and they love Trump because he propagates these type of fights. I don’t know why these people think a divided America that hates eachother is a better America than one that is unified but that seems to be the trend. That’s what Trumpism is all about

big difference between the republicans planning a partisan, and political fight to make obama a one termer,


and your side refusing to respect the peaceful transfer of power.


that you blame others, for your behavior, is understandable. if i was you, i would not want to be held accountable for the shit your side has done either.

What’s been my behavior? What have I done specifically to challenge the transfer of power? Come on now, you accused me, now back it up. Show examples

 

[Indeependent]

Adoration of an authoritarian nationalist strongman.

Arrogant ignorance, bigotry, paranoia, tribalism -- disguised as patriotism.

Unintentional mockery of "conservative values" and "small government".

Yeah. That's about it.

Are you sure it’s not just a fed up and retaliatory Right that has been given a label by ‘paranoid’ Leftists in an attempt to shut them back up?

There are many on the right, conservatives that are very much against Trump. His method of governing is toxic and people of all ideologies can recognize that.

his enemies are in open insurrection in the streets. that is "toxic" and "divisive".

if you consider trump the bad guy right now, you are the problem, not him.

I agree that many of Trump opponents are engaging in dishonest and unacceptable behavior. But if you don’t think Trump is neck deep in that crap then you are blind. I know the tactic is accuse the accusers instead of taking responsibility but you’re not fooling anybody with that tactic

the resist call went out before trump took office. before trump took office, federal agents were lying to judges to get warrants against him.


mayors are ordering the cops to stand down, so rioters can rule the streets and terrorize law abiding citizens.

innocent citizens are being arrested for defending themselves against violent mobs.


TRump is not the problem. the problem is that a significant portion of the left, is no longer respecting the peaceful transfer of power.

That’s a very skewed and dishonest representation of history you’re presenting there. Some of those points we’ve debated in the past. Sounds like you’re dug in on that narrative but that’s just not how I see it. I guess that’s just how it is during these divided times

teh resist call went out, almost immediately after the election.


that is not me being "dishonest", that is the truth.

TRump is not the problem. the problem is that a significant portion of the left, is no longer respecting the peaceful transfer of power.

Yes a call went out as soon as Trump was elected just as a call went out to stop Obama right after he was elected and just as the wings of every party activate to challenge the opposition when they gain power. But Trump owns the intensity of this battle and has fueled both his resistance and his followers with his rhetoric and method of attack. Smart leaders don’t give attention to the noise makers and they focus on the important things. As you can see clearly in this board, the conversation has devolved to grade school levels. The partisan haters who love to attack are emboldened and they love Trump because he propagates these type of fights. I don’t know why these people think a divided America that hates eachother is a better America than one that is unified but that seems to be the trend. That’s what Trumpism is all about

The moment Trump became a candidate, the CNN App called Trump every name under the son.
CNN was playing to the Rock The Vote crowd.

So what? Trump is a very insulting and controversial person. Very easily disliked. It’s not a mystery why so many people show distain for him and his method of governing.

It funny how Trump isn't like that on Hannity; only when he's be confronted by Liberal asshole reporters.
How else does one govern when American jobs are being taken by non-Americans and both parties want it that way?

One should govern in an honest and unifying way. Of course Trump acts insulting on Hannity. Despite the softball questions and open mic to boast he takes every opportunity he can to blame and attack his political opponents.

You mean the way Obama governed?
You mean the way GW governed?
You mean the way Clinton governed?
You mean the way Senior Bush governed?

It's obvious you haven't been happy with a President for many decades.

 

[Indeependent]

Trump is an authoritarian Nationalist, but he mixes in quite a bit of racism, sexism and xenophobia.

He is basically a Dictator-in-Training, and if given free-reign would GLADLY take over this nation.

He tries to wrap himself in patriotism, but he is far from being a patriot when all he thinks about is himself.

Where the heck do you whackadoodles find authoritarianism? Seriously. If you buy the Trump is an evil insert 'ism' then you have simply become a victim of decades long smearing. I guess if you hear it often enough, even rational people will eventually succumb. You also might want to clean out your house. Biden actually says racist stuff on a regular basis, and half the leadership in Virginia got away with wearing black face.

You really don’t understand the relation between Trump and authoritarianism?! Seriously?

The fact that Trump has to be an authoritarian to MAGA?
Part of me wants another GW to totally destroy the slums.

Trump doesn’t have to be anything. He is what he is... I’m just looking for an honest discussion. So when I hear people denying the relation between Trump and authoritarianism I can only scratch my head

Trump is not like that when he's with a non-combative audience.
I’m just looking for an honest discussion, but when I'm having a discussion with someone that won't watch anything but CNN and MSNBC, I know I'm not having an honest discussion.

I watch more Fox than CNN and MSNBC. I listen to Beck, Hannity and Levine in the car. Do I qualify as somebody worthy of conversing with?

Did you watch Trump on Hannity during the campaign?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Its a set of simplistic messages that uneducated folk can parrot when they meet an educated person.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

trumpism or Trumpster are both Orwellian newspeak terms used to deride any person who thinks at all independently from the ultra-conformist leftist hive mind.

It is used whenever a member of the hive cannot address an opinion as an opinion and so tries to simply negate it, instead.

 

[Slade3200]

Adoration of an authoritarian nationalist strongman.

Arrogant ignorance, bigotry, paranoia, tribalism -- disguised as patriotism.

Unintentional mockery of "conservative values" and "small government".

Yeah. That's about it.

Are you sure it’s not just a fed up and retaliatory Right that has been given a label by ‘paranoid’ Leftists in an attempt to shut them back up?

There are many on the right, conservatives that are very much against Trump. His method of governing is toxic and people of all ideologies can recognize that.

his enemies are in open insurrection in the streets. that is "toxic" and "divisive".

if you consider trump the bad guy right now, you are the problem, not him.

I agree that many of Trump opponents are engaging in dishonest and unacceptable behavior. But if you don’t think Trump is neck deep in that crap then you are blind. I know the tactic is accuse the accusers instead of taking responsibility but you’re not fooling anybody with that tactic

the resist call went out before trump took office. before trump took office, federal agents were lying to judges to get warrants against him.


mayors are ordering the cops to stand down, so rioters can rule the streets and terrorize law abiding citizens.

innocent citizens are being arrested for defending themselves against violent mobs.


TRump is not the problem. the problem is that a significant portion of the left, is no longer respecting the peaceful transfer of power.

That’s a very skewed and dishonest representation of history you’re presenting there. Some of those points we’ve debated in the past. Sounds like you’re dug in on that narrative but that’s just not how I see it. I guess that’s just how it is during these divided times

teh resist call went out, almost immediately after the election.


that is not me being "dishonest", that is the truth.

TRump is not the problem. the problem is that a significant portion of the left, is no longer respecting the peaceful transfer of power.

Yes a call went out as soon as Trump was elected just as a call went out to stop Obama right after he was elected and just as the wings of every party activate to challenge the opposition when they gain power. But Trump owns the intensity of this battle and has fueled both his resistance and his followers with his rhetoric and method of attack. Smart leaders don’t give attention to the noise makers and they focus on the important things. As you can see clearly in this board, the conversation has devolved to grade school levels. The partisan haters who love to attack are emboldened and they love Trump because he propagates these type of fights. I don’t know why these people think a divided America that hates eachother is a better America than one that is unified but that seems to be the trend. That’s what Trumpism is all about

The moment Trump became a candidate, the CNN App called Trump every name under the son.
CNN was playing to the Rock The Vote crowd.

So what? Trump is a very insulting and controversial person. Very easily disliked. It’s not a mystery why so many people show distain for him and his method of governing.

It funny how Trump isn't like that on Hannity; only when he's be confronted by Liberal asshole reporters.
How else does one govern when American jobs are being taken by non-Americans and both parties want it that way?

One should govern in an honest and unifying way. Of course Trump acts insulting on Hannity. Despite the softball questions and open mic to boast he takes every opportunity he can to blame and attack his political opponents.

You mean the way Obama governed?
You mean the way GW governed?
You mean the way Clinton governed?
You mean the way Senior Bush governed?

It's obvious you haven't been happy with a President for many decades.

All had their strong and weak areas... all were significantly better than Trump.

 

[Correll]

Adoration of an authoritarian nationalist strongman.

Arrogant ignorance, bigotry, paranoia, tribalism -- disguised as patriotism.

Unintentional mockery of "conservative values" and "small government".

Yeah. That's about it.

Are you sure it’s not just a fed up and retaliatory Right that has been given a label by ‘paranoid’ Leftists in an attempt to shut them back up?

There are many on the right, conservatives that are very much against Trump. His method of governing is toxic and people of all ideologies can recognize that.

his enemies are in open insurrection in the streets. that is "toxic" and "divisive".

if you consider trump the bad guy right now, you are the problem, not him.

I agree that many of Trump opponents are engaging in dishonest and unacceptable behavior. But if you don’t think Trump is neck deep in that crap then you are blind. I know the tactic is accuse the accusers instead of taking responsibility but you’re not fooling anybody with that tactic

the resist call went out before trump took office. before trump took office, federal agents were lying to judges to get warrants against him.


mayors are ordering the cops to stand down, so rioters can rule the streets and terrorize law abiding citizens.

innocent citizens are being arrested for defending themselves against violent mobs.


TRump is not the problem. the problem is that a significant portion of the left, is no longer respecting the peaceful transfer of power.

That’s a very skewed and dishonest representation of history you’re presenting there. Some of those points we’ve debated in the past. Sounds like you’re dug in on that narrative but that’s just not how I see it. I guess that’s just how it is during these divided times

teh resist call went out, almost immediately after the election.


that is not me being "dishonest", that is the truth.

TRump is not the problem. the problem is that a significant portion of the left, is no longer respecting the peaceful transfer of power.

Yes a call went out as soon as Trump was elected just as a call went out to stop Obama right after he was elected and just as the wings of every party activate to challenge the opposition when they gain power. But Trump owns the intensity of this battle and has fueled both his resistance and his followers with his rhetoric and method of attack. Smart leaders don’t give attention to the noise makers and they focus on the important things. As you can see clearly in this board, the conversation has devolved to grade school levels. The partisan haters who love to attack are emboldened and they love Trump because he propagates these type of fights. I don’t know why these people think a divided America that hates eachother is a better America than one that is unified but that seems to be the trend. That’s what Trumpism is all about

big difference between the republicans planning a partisan, and political fight to make obama a one termer,


and your side refusing to respect the peaceful transfer of power.


that you blame others, for your behavior, is understandable. if i was you, i would not want to be held accountable for the shit your side has done either.

What’s been my behavior? What have I done specifically to challenge the transfer of power? Come on now, you accused me, now back it up. Show examples

you're identifying with your side. thank you for not denying it.


as to your personals actions in support of it, i can guess. probably a shit ton of pushing the narrative and carrying water for certain important lies.

 

[Slade3200]

Trump is an authoritarian Nationalist, but he mixes in quite a bit of racism, sexism and xenophobia.

He is basically a Dictator-in-Training, and if given free-reign would GLADLY take over this nation.

He tries to wrap himself in patriotism, but he is far from being a patriot when all he thinks about is himself.

Where the heck do you whackadoodles find authoritarianism? Seriously. If you buy the Trump is an evil insert 'ism' then you have simply become a victim of decades long smearing. I guess if you hear it often enough, even rational people will eventually succumb. You also might want to clean out your house. Biden actually says racist stuff on a regular basis, and half the leadership in Virginia got away with wearing black face.

You really don’t understand the relation between Trump and authoritarianism?! Seriously?

The fact that Trump has to be an authoritarian to MAGA?
Part of me wants another GW to totally destroy the slums.

Trump doesn’t have to be anything. He is what he is... I’m just looking for an honest discussion. So when I hear people denying the relation between Trump and authoritarianism I can only scratch my head

Trump is not like that when he's with a non-combative audience.
I’m just looking for an honest discussion, but when I'm having a discussion with someone that won't watch anything but CNN and MSNBC, I know I'm not having an honest discussion.

I watch more Fox than CNN and MSNBC. I listen to Beck, Hannity and Levine in the car. Do I qualify as somebody worthy of conversing with?

Did you watch Trump on Hannity during the campaign?

I’m sure I did what specifically are you referring to?

 

[Correll]

Its a set of simplistic messages that uneducated folk can parrot when they meet an educated person.

says the man that supports political correctness, even though it led to the rape of literally thousands of his nations children.

in a single limited example.

 

[Slade3200]

Adoration of an authoritarian nationalist strongman.

Arrogant ignorance, bigotry, paranoia, tribalism -- disguised as patriotism.

Unintentional mockery of "conservative values" and "small government".

Yeah. That's about it.

Are you sure it’s not just a fed up and retaliatory Right that has been given a label by ‘paranoid’ Leftists in an attempt to shut them back up?

There are many on the right, conservatives that are very much against Trump. His method of governing is toxic and people of all ideologies can recognize that.

his enemies are in open insurrection in the streets. that is "toxic" and "divisive".

if you consider trump the bad guy right now, you are the problem, not him.

I agree that many of Trump opponents are engaging in dishonest and unacceptable behavior. But if you don’t think Trump is neck deep in that crap then you are blind. I know the tactic is accuse the accusers instead of taking responsibility but you’re not fooling anybody with that tactic

the resist call went out before trump took office. before trump took office, federal agents were lying to judges to get warrants against him.


mayors are ordering the cops to stand down, so rioters can rule the streets and terrorize law abiding citizens.

innocent citizens are being arrested for defending themselves against violent mobs.


TRump is not the problem. the problem is that a significant portion of the left, is no longer respecting the peaceful transfer of power.

That’s a very skewed and dishonest representation of history you’re presenting there. Some of those points we’ve debated in the past. Sounds like you’re dug in on that narrative but that’s just not how I see it. I guess that’s just how it is during these divided times

teh resist call went out, almost immediately after the election.


that is not me being "dishonest", that is the truth.

TRump is not the problem. the problem is that a significant portion of the left, is no longer respecting the peaceful transfer of power.

Yes a call went out as soon as Trump was elected just as a call went out to stop Obama right after he was elected and just as the wings of every party activate to challenge the opposition when they gain power. But Trump owns the intensity of this battle and has fueled both his resistance and his followers with his rhetoric and method of attack. Smart leaders don’t give attention to the noise makers and they focus on the important things. As you can see clearly in this board, the conversation has devolved to grade school levels. The partisan haters who love to attack are emboldened and they love Trump because he propagates these type of fights. I don’t know why these people think a divided America that hates eachother is a better America than one that is unified but that seems to be the trend. That’s what Trumpism is all about

big difference between the republicans planning a partisan, and political fight to make obama a one termer,


and your side refusing to respect the peaceful transfer of power.


that you blame others, for your behavior, is understandable. if i was you, i would not want to be held accountable for the shit your side has done either.

What’s been my behavior? What have I done specifically to challenge the transfer of power? Come on now, you accused me, now back it up. Show examples

you're identifying with your side. thank you for not denying it.


as to your personals actions in support of it, i can guess. probably a shit ton of pushing the narrative and carrying water for certain important lies.

You just said a whole lot of nothing. LMK when you’re ready to talk about real stuff. I have no interest in these generic labels and stereotypes. They are a waste of time

 

[Correll]

Adoration of an authoritarian nationalist strongman.

Arrogant ignorance, bigotry, paranoia, tribalism -- disguised as patriotism.

Unintentional mockery of "conservative values" and "small government".

Yeah. That's about it.

Are you sure it’s not just a fed up and retaliatory Right that has been given a label by ‘paranoid’ Leftists in an attempt to shut them back up?

There are many on the right, conservatives that are very much against Trump. His method of governing is toxic and people of all ideologies can recognize that.

his enemies are in open insurrection in the streets. that is "toxic" and "divisive".

if you consider trump the bad guy right now, you are the problem, not him.

I agree that many of Trump opponents are engaging in dishonest and unacceptable behavior. But if you don’t think Trump is neck deep in that crap then you are blind. I know the tactic is accuse the accusers instead of taking responsibility but you’re not fooling anybody with that tactic

the resist call went out before trump took office. before trump took office, federal agents were lying to judges to get warrants against him.


mayors are ordering the cops to stand down, so rioters can rule the streets and terrorize law abiding citizens.

innocent citizens are being arrested for defending themselves against violent mobs.


TRump is not the problem. the problem is that a significant portion of the left, is no longer respecting the peaceful transfer of power.

That’s a very skewed and dishonest representation of history you’re presenting there. Some of those points we’ve debated in the past. Sounds like you’re dug in on that narrative but that’s just not how I see it. I guess that’s just how it is during these divided times

teh resist call went out, almost immediately after the election.


that is not me being "dishonest", that is the truth.

TRump is not the problem. the problem is that a significant portion of the left, is no longer respecting the peaceful transfer of power.

Yes a call went out as soon as Trump was elected just as a call went out to stop Obama right after he was elected and just as the wings of every party activate to challenge the opposition when they gain power. But Trump owns the intensity of this battle and has fueled both his resistance and his followers with his rhetoric and method of attack. Smart leaders don’t give attention to the noise makers and they focus on the important things. As you can see clearly in this board, the conversation has devolved to grade school levels. The partisan haters who love to attack are emboldened and they love Trump because he propagates these type of fights. I don’t know why these people think a divided America that hates eachother is a better America than one that is unified but that seems to be the trend. That’s what Trumpism is all about

big difference between the republicans planning a partisan, and political fight to make obama a one termer,


and your side refusing to respect the peaceful transfer of power.


that you blame others, for your behavior, is understandable. if i was you, i would not want to be held accountable for the shit your side has done either.

What’s been my behavior? What have I done specifically to challenge the transfer of power? Come on now, you accused me, now back it up. Show examples

you're identifying with your side. thank you for not denying it.


as to your personals actions in support of it, i can guess. probably a shit ton of pushing the narrative and carrying water for certain important lies.

You just said a whole lot of nothing. LMK when you’re ready to talk about real stuff. I have no interest in these generic labels and stereotypes. They are a waste of time

i made a comment about your side's behavior and you self identified with it.

that was your call. as to your personal contribution, you can share that with us, if you want. or not.