What is this? (Small drone obliterating modern tank?)

[Muhammed]

The Javelin is a game changer in Ukraine. The Russians can't use their MBTs anymore and pulled them off the battlefield because of the Javelin threat after the Trump administration approved the sale of Raytheon's Javelins to Ukraine.

You're going to want to check that. Russian tanks were still in Ukraine as of last winter, and they just put 1100 tanks on ukraine's border.

Furthermore, a condition of the sale of the javelins is that they cannot be used in the conflict zone. So none have been or can be used.

Basically, we made it a rule that they cant actually use them against the pro russian separatists.

You drank the grape kool-aid again.

 

[Bleipriester]

This is what a Javelin does to a Russian T-72 main battle tank.




The Javelin is a game changer in Ukraine. The Russians can't use their MBTs anymore and pulled them off the battlefield because of the Javelin threat after the Trump administration approved the sale of Raytheon's Javelins to Ukraine.

What Russians and there is an agreement to withdraw heavy weapons.

Yes, but this agreement (as many others) was violated by pro-EU militants. Actually the EU is non-negotiable.

The Nazi militants have violated not only the agreement. And if they are pro EU remains to be figured out.

 

[ESay]

The Javelin is a game changer in Ukraine. The Russians can't use their MBTs anymore and pulled them off the battlefield because of the Javelin threat after the Trump administration approved the sale of Raytheon's Javelins to Ukraine.

You're going to want to check that. Russian tanks were still in Ukraine as of last winter, and they just put 1100 tanks on ukraine's border.

Furthermore, a condition of the sale of the javelins is that they cannot be used in the conflict zone. So none have been or can be used.

Basically, we made it a rule that they cant actually use them against the pro russian separatists.

You drank the grape kool-aid again.

He is right, actually.

 

[Muhammed]

The Javelin is a game changer in Ukraine. The Russians can't use their MBTs anymore and pulled them off the battlefield because of the Javelin threat after the Trump administration approved the sale of Raytheon's Javelins to Ukraine.

You're going to want to check that. Russian tanks were still in Ukraine as of last winter, and they just put 1100 tanks on ukraine's border.

Furthermore, a condition of the sale of the javelins is that they cannot be used in the conflict zone. So none have been or can be used.

Basically, we made it a rule that they cant actually use them against the pro russian separatists.

You drank the grape kool-aid again.

He is right, actually.

Labeling somebody a "pro-russian seperatist" is entirely subjective and meaningless.

Furthermore, Ukraine's border is not the battlefield. The battlefield is deep inside Ukraine.

 

[ESay]

Furthermore, Ukraine's border is not the battlefield. The battlefield is deep inside Ukraine.

I agree about that. The main reason of what is going on in Ukraine now is internal divisions of Ukrainian society.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You're going to want to check that. Russian tanks were still in Ukraine as of last winter, and they just put 1100 tanks on ukraine's border.

All sides of the conflict use Russian tanks, you know.

And...your point?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Labeling somebody a "pro-russian seperatist" is entirely subjective and meaningless.

No it isn't. They literally identify as precisely that. Their name literally translates to "New Russia". They chose this name themselves. They want to separate from ukraine and become a russian satellite.

Are you just kind of making shit up as you go, in lieu of knowing anything about this?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Furthermore, Ukraine's border is not the battlefield. The battlefield is deep inside Ukraine

Apparently, as are russian tanks, as of last winter. Meanwhile the javelins are in storage in Western Ukraine. Per the agreement you clearly know nothing about.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The main reason of what is going on in Ukraine now is internal divisions of Ukrainian society.

No. The main reason is military help and propaganda from the desperate russian kleptocracy. Else it would just be a political division being debated in parliament.

 

[ESay]

The main reason of what is going on in Ukraine now is internal divisions of Ukrainian society.

No. The main reason is military help and propaganda from the desperate russian kleptocracy. Else it would just be a political division being debated in parliament.

Of course, without Russia's help there wouldn't be the conflict in Eastern Ukraine. But then again, these regions were and still are mainly pro-Russian.

 

[Silver Cat]

Labeling somebody a "pro-russian seperatist" is entirely subjective and meaningless.

No it isn't. They literally identify as precisely that. Their name literally translates to "New Russia". They chose this name themselves. They want to separate from ukraine and become a russian satellite.

Actually, they want to join Russia, and they will be happy, if other Ukrainian regions join Russia, too.

 

[Silver Cat]

The main reason of what is going on in Ukraine now is internal divisions of Ukrainian society.

No. The main reason is military help and propaganda from the desperate russian kleptocracy. Else it would just be a political division being debated in parliament.

It was a political division until the illegal coup at Maidan and the Junta ordered to use military force against peaceful protesters in South and East regions of Ukraine.

 

[Silver Cat]

You're going to want to check that. Russian tanks were still in Ukraine as of last winter, and they just put 1100 tanks on ukraine's border.

All sides of the conflict use Russian tanks, you know.

And...your point?

It is an internal conflict inside Russian civilisation. Or, may be it's a proxy war between the European Union and the Russian Federation.