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buttercup

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if your kid demanded money for cleaning his room you might get upset so how do you think god feels when you demand heaven for doing what you should b doing anyhow

:confused-84: What on earth did that have to do with anything I said? Who said anything about demanding heaven? Your post has zero to do with anything I said, so maybe you meant to post to someone else.
 

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When he said my father's kingdom is not of this Earth. I believe he was attempting to describe the parallel universe where Heaven and God exist, only he didn't have access to modern language to explain it better. What do you think he meant ?

The quote is deliberately inserted to stop the search for it. Imagine how embarrassing for religion to have revealed tber e is nothing, but we already know that.

Apart from the fact Jesus was not the son of any God, he could not possibly have know about astronomical events like that. Science doesn't know it so let's not suggest he knew.
How do you know that is where God and heaven exist as you say? You cannot possibly know that because you have no proof of either.

In my opinion, It's vain and presumptuous to believe you are entitled to another life when you should thank evolution for this one and only life.
 

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The quote is deliberately inserted to stop the search for it. Imagine how embarrassing for religion to have revealed tber e is nothing, but we already know that.

Apart from the fact Jesus was not the son of any God, he could not possibly have know about astronomical events like that. Science doesn't know it so let's not suggest he knew.
How do you know that is where God and heaven exist as you say? You cannot possibly know that because you have no proof of either.

In my opinion, It's vain and presumptuous to believe you are entitled to another life when you should thank evolution for this one and only life.
Yeah.......lets thank those magic gases that evolved into human beings. We are to actually believe that all life evolved from Hydrogen and Helium gases after they were created by a magic cosmic egg (Big Bang) that created itself from nothing and then suddenly exploded at the speed of light until those 2 gases formed stars that in turn evolved into all the elements known to man and formed all the known elements through atomic fusion .... in turn that star dust turned into solid mass and formed our solar system......then life suddenly appeared from dead matter via an introduction of energy that can't be reproduced because (who knowns why).

Yeah......thank you EVOLUTION. :abgg2q.jpg: Talk about FAITH. :popcorn: Again.....why not show us the scientific experiment that falsifies the creation model presented in scripture......of course using the scientific method of Observed, reproducible, consistent experimentation. Now simply show us the 1st scientific experiment that verifies the basic tenet of natural evolution. Dead matter evolution into biological life....i.e., Abiogenesis that has been FALSIFIED via hundreds of scientific experiment that have attempted to produce life from dead matter via an introduction of energy. If not show us the successful experiment where life has been created without coming from preexisting life within the same species.

Then you can crow about the THEORY (a theory only, because it cannot support its own tenet with FACTS) of Evolution. There is a reason that evolution is not called the LAW OF EVOLUTION. Physics and our natural laws refuse to support that tenet. In fact the Pasteur model proved that life can come only from preexisting life within the same species.

Of course you tell us how we don't need this basic building block to construct your theory as truth. The question then becomes WHY NOT? :dunno: The scriptures agree with the scientific method. Life can only be reproduced through preexisting life of the same species.....after CREATION. Nothing evolved. (Genesis 1:24-25) The chicken was created then reproduced via laying the egg.
 
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Yeah.......lets thank those magic gases that evolved into human beings. We are to actually believe that all life evolved from Hydrogen and Helium gases after they were created by a magic cosmic egg (Big Bang) that created itself from nothing and then suddenly exploded at the speed of light until those 2 gases formed stars that in turn evolved into all the elements known to man and formed all the known elements through atomic fusion .... in turn that star dust turned into solid mass and formed our solar system......then life suddenly appeared from dead matter via an introduction of energy that can't be reproduced because (who knowns why).

Yeah......thank you EVOLUTION. :abgg2q.jpg: Talk about FAITH. :popcorn: Again.....why not show us the scientific experiment that falsifies the creation model presented in scripture......of course using the scientific method of Observed, reproducible, consistent experimentation. Now simply show us the 1st scientific experiment that verifies the basic tenet of natural evolution. Dead matter evolution into biological life....i.e., Abiogenesis that has been FALSIFIED via hundreds of scientific experiment that have attempted to produce life from dead matter via an introduction of energy. If not show us the successful experiment where life has been created without coming from preexisting life within the same species.

Then you can crow about the THEORY (a theory only, because it cannot support its own tenet with FACTS) of Evolution. There is a reason that evolution is not called the LAW OF EVOLUTION. Physics and our natural laws refuse to support that tenet. In fact the Pasteur model proved that life can come only from preexisting life within the same species.

Of course you tell us how we don't need this basic building block to construct your theory as truth. The question then becomes WHY NOT? :dunno: The scriptures agree with the scientific method. Life can only be reproduced through preexisting life of the same species.....after CREATION. Nothing evolved. (Genesis 1:24-25) The chicken was created then reproduced via laying the egg.

You are entitled to believe rubbish if you want. That is not how physics and science has described the most plausible theory known until now.

In contrast to, some big sky daddy de a ended and creates the u diverse from nothing the wait for 8 billion years for it to cool then waved his hand and that ever so noble bastions of human civilisation just appeared ftom nowhere, Adam and eve.
Just to give it all a twist, he added those immaculate conception and virgin births, talking snakes, resurrections, dead men walking, parting the seas and bugger it, throw in some clown walking on water.
God certainly got you fools conned.

Is that what you believe but you doubt physics???
You keep following religion. That'll save you and pay your bills.
 

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What first jumps to my eye on first glance is that Jesus points to the difference between the material and the spiritual.

"Kingdom" is a word that reminds of worldly power, material wealth and so on. But Jesus says his message is even more desirable, although it's immaterial. You don't need worldly power and lots of stuff to be truly rich.
 

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Get a grip
What first jumps to my eye on first glance is that Jesus points to the difference between the material and the spiritual.

"Kingdom" is a word that reminds of worldly power, material wealth and so on. But Jesus says his message is even more desirable, although it's immaterial. You don't need worldly power and lots of stuff to be truly rich.
Get a grip on yourselves.
This know all be all Jesus is a myth. He was supposedly born of an old whore and had no education yet He was making these outrageous statements like a university professor.
Don't give me that rubbish.
 

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When Jesus taught his disciples how to pray, he said:

Matthew 6:7-10
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

In these verses we learn that the Father knoweth what things we are in need of before we ask. He then teaches us what we should pray for by giving an example. He then starts by telling us that we should pray that his kingdom come upon the earth so that his will would be done on earth even as his will is done in heaven.

Why would God ask us to pray for His kingdom to come if it was never possible? The truth is that when Jesus comes again for his second time, He will establish the kingdom of God on earth. He will be king over all the earth and we will live in peace and happiness. This will continue for 1000 years. Even the lamb will lie down with the lion and a child will be able to play on the hole of an asp. Those who are not among the wicked who will be destroyed at his coming will be able live in the kingdom of God on earth.

The big difference between the kingdom of heaven and the kingdoms of this world are the corruption and wickedness. As King, Jesus will not be trying to get gain while king and will rule in complete righteousness and truth. No more lies, no more unfair taxation, no more deceit and corruption, no more wars and wasted lives. Just a completely fair and just government with total peace on earth and good will toward all. Eventually this earth will become a complete kingdom of God and the meek shall inherit the earth.
 
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