What Did US Veterans Think Of The Neo-Confederate "Lost Cause" Myth?

[RetiredGySgt]

Flash the only ignorant one is you, Lincoln did not call up the Militia until the South fired on the North and he did not enter Virginia until a Confederate army was forming to march on DC.

 

[Flash]

Flash the only ignorant one is you, Lincoln did not call up the Militia until the South fired on the North and he did not enter Virginia until a Confederate army was forming to march on DC.

You usually have your shit together but you are confused about this. You are not the only one. Not to worry, I will unfuck your confusion.

It is not covered in the Jr High School History books but the US and the Confederacy had an understanding to deal with Federal facilities like Ft Sumter.

President Buchanan knew that the issue of Federal facilities could lead to hostilities. The agreement that he had was that the forts like Ft Sumter would not be reinforced and the Confederate states would not not take them by force.

That prevented hostiles while Buchanan was President. However, when that shithead Lincoln assumed office he immediately broke the agreement. He sent a supply ship to Charleston to reinforce the fort and that was in violation of agreement. He did it knowing that it was going to lead to hostilities and he did it (literally) in the dark of the night without the knowledge of his cabinet. He wanted to provoke war and the sonofabitch succeeded.

Even disregarding the agreement of course we all know that it would have been proper for sovereign South Carolina to take Ft Sumter. If it was wrong for SC to take Ft Sumter then it was wrong for the US to take Ft Ticonderoga during the Revolution, wasn't it? I don't think so.

SC had just as much a claim on that fort as any stupid Yankee living a thousand miles away, wouldn't you agree? Hell it was mostly built by the people of SC. It was built to protect Charleston, not New York.

The other thing is that nobody was killed by hostiles at Ft Sumter. Some dufus Union artillerymen blew up a cannon after the bombardment stopped but there was no deaths due to actions by SC. Hardly a reason to start a major war.

The real thing that the Jr High School History books, written by the winners, always fail to mention is that the real hostilities started when that dipshit Lincoln sent an Army of thugs across the Potomac River to kill Americans and take their arms away from them. That was the real start of the war.

Lincoln started the goddamn war and he is repsonsible. Succession is not an act of war. Succession is a political act. That jackass Lincoln was too weak to deal with trying to peacefully deal with the issues of succession and made the despicable decision to settle it by war.

 

[Unkotare]

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Lincoln started the goddamn war and he is repsonsible [sic]. ......

Wrong. Take this tired, wannabe nonsense back to stormfront where you got it, fool.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

LOL so Buchannan supported the South. Any agreement he made was in support of the states leaving, but to the point, according to you the deal meant the US was going to allow their troops to starve?

And again Lincoln only sent the Army into Virginia because 2 Southern armies were heading for DC or its local anyway.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

“We believe in making treason odious:” U.S. Veterans of the Civil War Attack the Lost Cause

It was 1866, and the men of the US Army, Navy, and Marines had destroyed the rebellion on the battlefield and ushered in a “new birth of freedom.” Their work done, they hoped to return …

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"It was 1866, and the men of the US Army, Navy, and Marines formed a veterans’ organization called “The Grand Army of the Republic,” most commonly referred to as the GAR -- it had a purpose to remind the nation, their children and their children’s children to never endure something so horrible ever again. While they had been successful on the battlefield, the war for the memory of the Civil War; they would lose for over a century.

By 1923, the Civil War was well in the nation’s past, it was thought -- plans were made for Federal money to help pay for a massive monument to the Confederacy carved into the side of Stone Mountain, Georgia. While much of the populace failed to bat an eyelid, there was one group that could not believe what they were seeing: the aged, elderly, swiftly dying out veterans of the US military from the Civil War. “We forgave the rebels, but we did not forgive their rebellion nor their treason,” thundered the GAR --“which time has not changed any more than it has changed the treason of Benedict Arnold or Judas Iscariot…such treason and such traitors cannot be so honored without dishonoring and insulting the men, living and dead, who fought to maintain the Union and who crushed the slaveholders’ rebellion.”

The National Encampment of the GAR in 1925, the remaining leaders of the “boys in blue,” appealed to the nation for common sense: “I believe this is the first time in the history of the Republic that the Government of the United States has been called upon to aid in the construction of a monument to those who were leaders in the great rebellion against it…It is plainly to be seen that the title of the act is a cunningly woven fable with intent to deceive. The project was conceived and carried forward by those who practice a cult of glorifying the lost cause and idolizing the heroes thereof.” And yet, Stone Mountain exists today as a glorification of the Confederate cause – and as one of the birthplaces of the KKK.




Just a little historical reminder for those still triggered about Juneteenth being a federal holiday; paid for with federal dollars....Just a little reminder of why a certain segment of people always get so triggered by the actual recounting of history and context surrounding it and how "cunningly woven fables with the intent to deceive" keeps being woven into the fabric of today; by the same evil ideology of those who were defeated 150 years ago. And if the quotes from the US veterans in the 1920's still trigger you today -- then you are exactly who we say you are...

......Junteenth is a ridiculous holiday for many reasons ..you have to be an idiot to want to spend MORE $$$$$.....and Juneteenth has nothing to do with your OP hypothesis = your OP is crap

^ Neo-Confederate sad ^^