West Bank is a fragmented mess

To be clear I do not condone what happened at Deir Yassin and neither do most Jews. It was disgraceful.

Yes Zionist and Israelis OD condone what happened at Dier Yassin and hundreds of other massacred Arab villages.
Otherwise they would not have elected the leader of Irgun, Menachem Begin, as Prime Minister.
There is absolutely no doubt about it.
Menachem Begin has not just admitted it, but basked in the glory that he took credit for.
And that was not the only war crime.
He also personally blew up the King David Hotel and shot Folke Bernadotte.
 
Remembered wrong.
As at the time, David ben Gurion was sure it was the British who he claimed were responsible.

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In the ensuing confusion, Jewish residents immediately blamed the British for the attack. David Ben-Gurion, on visiting the site of the carnage, has been cited as putting some responsibility for this Arab attack on the shoulders of Jewish thugs, stating, "I could not forget that our thugs and murderers had opened the way."[10] The Irgun spread word ordering militants to shoot on sight any Englishman.[11] By day's end, eight British soldiers had been shot dead, while a ninth was murdered while laid up in a Jewish clinic for treatment of a wound.[3] Lehi also reacted several days later by blowing up a train full of British soldiers as it drew out of Rehovot station, killing 27.[3]

The day after, on 23 February, a Jewish offensive, deploying mortars, was launched against the Arab neighbourhood of Musrara, in Jerusalem, killing seven Arabs, including an entire family. The Arabs believed it was in revenge for the Ben-Yehuda Street bombing, though, according to Israeli historian Itamar Radai, at the time the Jews and their official institutions blamed only the British for the incident.[12]
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And I see nothing claiming the victims were Jewish.
Since the majority of the citizens of Jerusalem were Arab, it is most likely it was more Arabs killed than Jews.
No it was nearly all Jews. ben Yehuda is in Jewish territory. Thats why it was named after a Jew. And Jews were outraged over the attack. And the Palestine Post bombing as well. If the dead were Arabs Jewish groups wouldn't have cared enough to retaliate.
 
Yes Zionist and Israelis OD condone what happened at Dier Yassin and hundreds of other massacred Arab villages.
Otherwise they would not have elected the leader of Irgun, Menachem Begin, as Prime Minister.
There is absolutely no doubt about it.
Menachem Begin has not just admitted it, but basked in the glory that he took credit for.
And that was not the only war crime.
He also personally blew up the King David Hotel and shot Folke Bernadotte.
What a stupid post. Deir Yassin was condemned by the Jewish Agency by the Haganah by the chief Rabbi Herzog who excommunicated those responsible. If you had a basic knowledge of history you would know that.
 
No it was nearly all Jews. ben Yehuda is in Jewish territory. Thats why it was named after a Jew. And Jews were outraged over the attack. And the Palestine Post bombing as well. If the dead were Arabs Jewish groups wouldn't have cared enough to retaliate.

Wrong.
I just pointed out that Jews thought the British did it in retaliation for Zionists murdering hundreds of British peace keepers.
There was no retaliation by Jews.
Jews were already murdering all the British and Arabs they could get away with.
 
What a stupid post. Deir Yassin was condemned by the Jewish Agency by the Haganah by the chief Rabbi Herzog who excommunicated those responsible. If you had a basic knowledge of history you would know that.

Officially condemned, but only to prevent the UN and Jordan from getting involved against the Zionists.

But how do you explain the leader of Irgun, Menachem Begin, being elected the Prime Minister of Israel?
If Israelis condemned the murder, they would not have elected the murder to be their Prime Minister.

And what about all the other atrocities, like Yitzhak Rabin and his "break bones" policy?
The illegal invasion of Lebanon and the massacres at refugee camps there by the IDF.
How do you explain the attack on the USS Liberty?
How about the starvation policy against Gaza?
 
Wrong.
I just pointed out that Jews thought the British did it in retaliation for Zionists murdering hundreds of British peace keepers.
There was no retaliation by Jews.
Jews were already murdering all the British and Arabs they could get away with.
Arabs murdered every Jew and Brit they could. Read about the Arab revolt of 136-39 sometime. They killed many of their own as well. Do you not know how to read? yes there was retaliation as the article you claim to have read said.
 
Altalena Affair. On June 11 1948 the Irgun smuggling ship Altalena was seized by forced when it reached the beach on orders of David Ben Gurion who would no longer allow the Irgun to exist as a separate force. More than 20 Irgun fighters were killed. hundreds surrendered and later joined the Haganah. Ben Gurion had ordered the Irgun stop their activities after Deir Yassin which he condemned as terrorism. That was the end of the Irgun.
 
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shoshi
I picture the Negev as rocky desert where the bulk of the Israeli military is
Must be huge military bases all over the south

The north is also a massive military zone
 
Its easy to have peace.
Just enforce the 1948 UN partition.
If it was that easy there wouldn’t have been the 67 War in the first place
The Israelis are not going to tolerate the Pre 67 timeline when they were forbidden to enter E.Jerusalem , being deprived of their religious sites and “ Right of Return “ is DOA ☠️
 

Myths & Facts - The War of 1948​

 
shoshi
The partion plan gave the Jews very little of anything

It was specifically designed by the Brits to leave all Jewish communities extremely vulnerable to Arab invasions; the Brits even had a General leading the Arab Legion during its invasion in 1947-48.
 
shoshi
I picture the Negev as rocky desert where the bulk of the Israeli military is
Must be huge military bases all over the south

The north is also a massive military zone

Egypt is by far the largest country militarily, so I would expect the Negev to be full of forward bases. as well as extensive naval forces in the southern port there, can't remember the name now, blockaded in '56 or so by Arab naval forces starting the war then.
 
When you exalt war criminals, it is clear how immoral you are.
Exactly the same can be said of anyone who ignores the actions of people who openly speak of removing Israel, root, and branch, and are willing to kill their own children to accomplish it. If you heard that the Jews of Israel were being slaughtered and literally "pushed into the sea", your kind probably wouldn't even bother to lie and condemn it. In time, the hate expressed by you and those like you will (again) do great damage to Israel.

It may even seem to bring victory to the Palestinians who've been fed Jew-hatred with their mother's milk but in the end, it is THEY who will be destroyed. The thing is, people like you won't care about them, either. They are just a means to the end of hating the Jew and desiring to harm them.
 
Native Palestinians are not allowed to use Israeli schools, hospitals, or even roads.
Don't you leave out the "minor" detail that led to this situation? The dozens of exploded, burned-out public transport buses, scenes of mass death from homicide bombers in public spaces, the terror that was pushed into the lives of all Israelis because people like YOU think they deserved death for taking something that wasn't theirs? Taking something that archaeologists prove was theirs millennia ago but the Hamas and Fatah say never belonged to them? You support the lie that they don't belong and that "Palestinians" have a solid claim, supported by evidence of a long-existing culture, yet cannot show a single coin, glass, wooden, or stone artifact that is unique to this "Palestinian" culture?
 
Don't you leave out the "minor" detail that led to this situation? The dozens of exploded, burned-out public transport buses, scenes of mass death from homicide bombers in public spaces, the terror that was pushed into the lives of all Israelis because people like YOU think they deserved death for taking something that wasn't theirs? Taking something that archaeologists prove was theirs millennia ago but the Hamas and Fatah say never belonged to them? You support the lie that they don't belong and that "Palestinians" have a solid claim, supported by evidence of a long-existing culture, yet cannot show a single coin, glass, wooden, or stone artifact that is unique to this "Palestinian" culture?
good arguments!
 

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