We Suffered for 8 Years, Say the Haters.

[Toddsterpatriot]

None of your links backed your claim that tariffs caused corporate debt to increase by 25%.
Or that tariffs cause the trucking company bankruptcy.

I never wrote that tariffs caused corporate debt to increase by 25%. I wrote that consumer debt is increasing 25% on foreign products due to tariffs, and I posted a link.

Tariffs are the number one reason trucking is doing poorly. Trucks bring you and I all of our shit, less shit, less truckloads of shit.

I already responded to this before, but I have another thought on this, specifically trucking.

I'm wondering a little bit about if perhaps trucking is being affected by the fall of the retail outlets.

All of the major chain stores, Walmart, Amazon, Kroger, Target and so on... all of them have their own company subsidiary running trucks.

The rest of the retail outlets are on the decline.

More and more, stuff is being ordered online. In fact, I have even bought stuff through Walmart and such, online, and it was delivered.

Instead of truck loads full of products being deliverer to large stores.... A single package of exactly what I want, went through the USPS or UPS.

Based on this turn of economic changes, it seems reasonable to me that the decline in trucking could be tied to that.

Walmart Transportation, LLC. operates trucks, but the majority of truckloads are handled by private contractors.

Amazon has trucks that transport products less than 100 miles. All others are hauled by private.

Kroger has trucks that deliver to stores. All of the product delivered to distribution is private.

Target has trucks that have the Target logo, but the drivers are employed by private contractors. Mostly Schneider.

Walmart Transportation, LLC. operates trucks, but the majority of truckloads are handled by private contractors.

Did you ever prove that it is owned by the Walton family, not by WalMart?

Or did you finally admit you lied?

Trolling Again?

I'll continue to point out your lies, even if it makes you cry.

 

[OnePercenter]

I never wrote that tariffs caused corporate debt to increase by 25%. I wrote that consumer debt is increasing 25% on foreign products due to tariffs, and I posted a link.

Tariffs are the number one reason trucking is doing poorly. Trucks bring you and I all of our shit, less shit, less truckloads of shit.

I already responded to this before, but I have another thought on this, specifically trucking.

I'm wondering a little bit about if perhaps trucking is being affected by the fall of the retail outlets.

All of the major chain stores, Walmart, Amazon, Kroger, Target and so on... all of them have their own company subsidiary running trucks.

The rest of the retail outlets are on the decline.

More and more, stuff is being ordered online. In fact, I have even bought stuff through Walmart and such, online, and it was delivered.

Instead of truck loads full of products being deliverer to large stores.... A single package of exactly what I want, went through the USPS or UPS.

Based on this turn of economic changes, it seems reasonable to me that the decline in trucking could be tied to that.

Walmart Transportation, LLC. operates trucks, but the majority of truckloads are handled by private contractors.

Amazon has trucks that transport products less than 100 miles. All others are hauled by private.

Kroger has trucks that deliver to stores. All of the product delivered to distribution is private.

Target has trucks that have the Target logo, but the drivers are employed by private contractors. Mostly Schneider.

Walmart Transportation, LLC. operates trucks, but the majority of truckloads are handled by private contractors.

Did you ever prove that it is owned by the Walton family, not by WalMart?

Or did you finally admit you lied?

Trolling Again?

I'll continue to point out your lies, even if it makes you cry.

But you can't go against the TOS to do that. That's the difference between you and me, I follow the rules.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I already responded to this before, but I have another thought on this, specifically trucking.

I'm wondering a little bit about if perhaps trucking is being affected by the fall of the retail outlets.

All of the major chain stores, Walmart, Amazon, Kroger, Target and so on... all of them have their own company subsidiary running trucks.

The rest of the retail outlets are on the decline.

More and more, stuff is being ordered online. In fact, I have even bought stuff through Walmart and such, online, and it was delivered.

Instead of truck loads full of products being deliverer to large stores.... A single package of exactly what I want, went through the USPS or UPS.

Based on this turn of economic changes, it seems reasonable to me that the decline in trucking could be tied to that.

Walmart Transportation, LLC. operates trucks, but the majority of truckloads are handled by private contractors.

Amazon has trucks that transport products less than 100 miles. All others are hauled by private.

Kroger has trucks that deliver to stores. All of the product delivered to distribution is private.

Target has trucks that have the Target logo, but the drivers are employed by private contractors. Mostly Schneider.

Walmart Transportation, LLC. operates trucks, but the majority of truckloads are handled by private contractors.

Did you ever prove that it is owned by the Walton family, not by WalMart?

Or did you finally admit you lied?

Trolling Again?

I'll continue to point out your lies, even if it makes you cry.

But you can't go against the TOS to do that. That's the difference between you and me, I follow the rules.

I can't point out your lies about the Walton family owning Walmart Transportation, LLC?

LOL!

 

[Andylusion]

I wish that Obama had had the bal..er, back bone to create a legal investigation into the entire medical "industry" to weed out the corruption, the manipulators and graft instead of this "affordable health care" shell game. In fact, that goes for Trump, too. But it won't happen. The business of America IS business, and they wont part with their cash cow easily.

The entire problem with the pharma, is government. More government, is not a solution, to a government caused problem.

You want lower prices on drugs? Deregulate the entire pharma industry. Open the market. Get government out of buying drugs.

As long as you create a system through government that is able to be manipulated, then it will be manipulated. If you open an investigation, they will simply remove one manipulator, and replace them with another manipulator.

The solution is not have a system that can be manipulated.

 

[OnePercenter]

I wish that Obama had had the bal..er, back bone to create a legal investigation into the entire medical "industry" to weed out the corruption, the manipulators and graft instead of this "affordable health care" shell game. In fact, that goes for Trump, too. But it won't happen. The business of America IS business, and they wont part with their cash cow easily.

The entire problem with the pharma, is government. More government, is not a solution, to a government caused problem.

You want lower prices on drugs? Deregulate the entire pharma industry. Open the market. Get government out of buying drugs.

As long as you create a system through government that is able to be manipulated, then it will be manipulated. If you open an investigation, they will simply remove one manipulator, and replace them with another manipulator.

The solution is not have a system that can be manipulated.

When has deregulation NOT bitten the consumer in the ass?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I wish that Obama had had the bal..er, back bone to create a legal investigation into the entire medical "industry" to weed out the corruption, the manipulators and graft instead of this "affordable health care" shell game. In fact, that goes for Trump, too. But it won't happen. The business of America IS business, and they wont part with their cash cow easily.

The entire problem with the pharma, is government. More government, is not a solution, to a government caused problem.

You want lower prices on drugs? Deregulate the entire pharma industry. Open the market. Get government out of buying drugs.

As long as you create a system through government that is able to be manipulated, then it will be manipulated. If you open an investigation, they will simply remove one manipulator, and replace them with another manipulator.

The solution is not have a system that can be manipulated.

When has deregulation NOT bitten the consumer in the ass?

How did deregulation of telecommunications and airlines bite the consumer in the ass?

 

[Andylusion]

I wish that Obama had had the bal..er, back bone to create a legal investigation into the entire medical "industry" to weed out the corruption, the manipulators and graft instead of this "affordable health care" shell game. In fact, that goes for Trump, too. But it won't happen. The business of America IS business, and they wont part with their cash cow easily.

The entire problem with the pharma, is government. More government, is not a solution, to a government caused problem.

You want lower prices on drugs? Deregulate the entire pharma industry. Open the market. Get government out of buying drugs.

As long as you create a system through government that is able to be manipulated, then it will be manipulated. If you open an investigation, they will simply remove one manipulator, and replace them with another manipulator.

The solution is not have a system that can be manipulated.

When has deregulation NOT bitten the consumer in the ass?

Like every single time it's been tried?

Do you know that cell phone, is a perfect example? Prior to the 2000s, it was nearly impossible for cell phones to get wide areas of coverage. The FCC started auctioning off spectrum, which gave rise to nation wide coverage, AND drastically reduced the cost to produce cell phones. Before it was horribly expensive to get the spectrum needed, which increased the cost of service.

So that alone is a perfect example.

Another would be the airlines, which after deregulation, prices fell by nearly half.

It would be hard to cite an example where deregulation had a negative effect.

The UK broadband internet is a great example. While speeds are not significantly faster (contrary to claims), what is true is that prices are lower. By opening the market up to as much competition as possible, having many companies competing in a free and open market, the price is significantly cheaper in the UK for broadband, than here in the highly regulated US market.

Another example would be banking. Many of the banking regulations we have in the US, have never existed elsewhere in the world. Yet the sub-prime crash happened here, not in Canada, or the UK, or the EU, where no such regulations exist.

I could go on and on.

 

[OnePercenter]

I wish that Obama had had the bal..er, back bone to create a legal investigation into the entire medical "industry" to weed out the corruption, the manipulators and graft instead of this "affordable health care" shell game. In fact, that goes for Trump, too. But it won't happen. The business of America IS business, and they wont part with their cash cow easily.

The entire problem with the pharma, is government. More government, is not a solution, to a government caused problem.

You want lower prices on drugs? Deregulate the entire pharma industry. Open the market. Get government out of buying drugs.

As long as you create a system through government that is able to be manipulated, then it will be manipulated. If you open an investigation, they will simply remove one manipulator, and replace them with another manipulator.

The solution is not have a system that can be manipulated.

When has deregulation NOT bitten the consumer in the ass?

How did deregulation of telecommunications and airlines bite the consumer in the ass?

Raised costs.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I wish that Obama had had the bal..er, back bone to create a legal investigation into the entire medical "industry" to weed out the corruption, the manipulators and graft instead of this "affordable health care" shell game. In fact, that goes for Trump, too. But it won't happen. The business of America IS business, and they wont part with their cash cow easily.

The entire problem with the pharma, is government. More government, is not a solution, to a government caused problem.

You want lower prices on drugs? Deregulate the entire pharma industry. Open the market. Get government out of buying drugs.

As long as you create a system through government that is able to be manipulated, then it will be manipulated. If you open an investigation, they will simply remove one manipulator, and replace them with another manipulator.

The solution is not have a system that can be manipulated.

When has deregulation NOT bitten the consumer in the ass?

How did deregulation of telecommunications and airlines bite the consumer in the ass?

Raised costs.

The price of calls and of flights dropped. A lot.

 

[Andylusion]

I wish that Obama had had the bal..er, back bone to create a legal investigation into the entire medical "industry" to weed out the corruption, the manipulators and graft instead of this "affordable health care" shell game. In fact, that goes for Trump, too. But it won't happen. The business of America IS business, and they wont part with their cash cow easily.

The entire problem with the pharma, is government. More government, is not a solution, to a government caused problem.

You want lower prices on drugs? Deregulate the entire pharma industry. Open the market. Get government out of buying drugs.

As long as you create a system through government that is able to be manipulated, then it will be manipulated. If you open an investigation, they will simply remove one manipulator, and replace them with another manipulator.

The solution is not have a system that can be manipulated.

When has deregulation NOT bitten the consumer in the ass?

How did deregulation of telecommunications and airlines bite the consumer in the ass?

Raised costs.

There are three 'fails' in that one comment.

Airlines, resulted in drastically lower costs.
Cell phone, and data over cellular, resulted in lower costs.

The one case where you are right, namely in higher land-line costs... is not the result of deregulation, but rather of regulation.

When the government stepped in, and blew up ma-bell... the result was that to connect a call from one location to another, went from being one continuous network, to crossing dozens of networks.

Each separate network has to charge a fee for usage. That raised the price.

Regulation increased prices. Not deregulation.

 

[The Purge]

 

[tycho1572]

"The sentence I hear most from well-meaning, conservative friends since President Trump’s election is this: “We suffered 8 years under Barack Obama.”

Fair enough. Let’s take a look.

The day Obama took office, the Dow closed at 7,949 points. Eight years later, the Dow had almost tripled.

General Motors and Chrysler were on the brink of bankruptcy, with Ford not far behind, and their failure, along with their supply chains, would have meant the loss of millions of jobs. Obama pushed through a controversial, $80 billion bailout to save the car industry. The U.S. car industry survived, started making money again, and the entire $80 billion was paid back, with interest.

While we remain vulnerable to lone-wolf attacks, no foreign terrorist organization has successfully executed a mass attack here since 9/11.

Obama ordered the raid that killed Osama Bin Laden.

He drew down the number of troops from 180,000 in Iraq and Afghanistan to just 15,000, and increased funding for the Department of Veterans Affairs.

He launched a program called Opening Doors which, since 2010, has led to a 47 percent decline in the number of homeless veterans.

He set a record 73 straight months of private-sector job growth.

Due to Obama’s regulatory policies, greenhouse gas emissions decreased by 12%, production of renewable energy more than doubled, and our dependence on foreign oil was cut in half.

He signed The Lilly Ledbetter Act, making it easier for women to sue employers for unequal pay.

His Omnibus Public Lands Management Act designated more than 2 million acres as wilderness, creating thousands of miles of trails and protecting over 1,000 miles of rivers.

He reduced the federal deficit from 9.8 percent of GDP in 2009 to 3.2 percent in 2016.

For all the inadequacies of the Affordable Care Act, we seem to have forgotten that, before the ACA, you could be denied coverage for a pre-existing condition and kids could not stay on their parents’ policies up to age 26.

Obama approved a $14.5 billion system to rebuild the levees in New Orleans.

All this, even as Mitch McConnell famously asserted that his singular mission would be to block anything President Obama tried to do.

While Obama failed on his campaign pledge to close the prison at Guantanamo Bay, that prison’s population decreased from 242 to around 50.

He expanded funding for embryonic stem cell research, supporting groundbreaking advancement in areas like spinal injury treatment and cancer.

Credit card companies can no longer charge hidden fees or raise interest rates without advance notice.

Most years, Obama threw a 4th of July party for military families. He held babies, played games with children, served barbecue, and led the singing of “Happy Birthday” to his daughter Malia, who was born on July 4.

Welfare spending is down: for every 100 poor families, just 24 receive cash assistance, compared with 64 in 1996.

Obama comforted families and communities following more than a dozen mass shootings. After Sandy Hook, he said, “The majority of those who died today were children, beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old.”

Yet, he never took away anyone’s guns.

He sang Amazing Grace, spontaneously, at the altar.

He was the first president since Eisenhower to serve two terms without personal or political scandal.

He was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

President Obama was not perfect, as no man and no president is, and you can certainly disagree with his political ideologies. But to say we suffered? If that’s the argument, if this is how we suffered for 8 years under Barack Obama, I have one wish: may we be so fortunate as to suffer 8 more."

What a crock of shit!

I work in healthcare and saw many people lose their jobs because of that black president. That stupid ****** didn't improve anything!

We now have a smart president who knows what he's doing. It's why we're seeing the best economy we've ever had.

 

[OnePercenter]

I wish that Obama had had the bal..er, back bone to create a legal investigation into the entire medical "industry" to weed out the corruption, the manipulators and graft instead of this "affordable health care" shell game. In fact, that goes for Trump, too. But it won't happen. The business of America IS business, and they wont part with their cash cow easily.

The entire problem with the pharma, is government. More government, is not a solution, to a government caused problem.

You want lower prices on drugs? Deregulate the entire pharma industry. Open the market. Get government out of buying drugs.

As long as you create a system through government that is able to be manipulated, then it will be manipulated. If you open an investigation, they will simply remove one manipulator, and replace them with another manipulator.

The solution is not have a system that can be manipulated.

When has deregulation NOT bitten the consumer in the ass?

Like every single time it's been tried?

Do you know that cell phone, is a perfect example? Prior to the 2000s, it was nearly impossible for cell phones to get wide areas of coverage. The FCC started auctioning off spectrum, which gave rise to nation wide coverage, AND drastically reduced the cost to produce cell phones. Before it was horribly expensive to get the spectrum needed, which increased the cost of service.

So that alone is a perfect example.

Another would be the airlines, which after deregulation, prices fell by nearly half.

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It would be hard to cite an example where deregulation had a negative effect.

The UK broadband internet is a great example. While speeds are not significantly faster (contrary to claims), what is true is that prices are lower. By opening the market up to as much competition as possible, having many companies competing in a free and open market, the price is significantly cheaper in the UK for broadband, than here in the highly regulated US market.

Another example would be banking. Many of the banking regulations we have in the US, have never existed elsewhere in the world. Yet the sub-prime crash happened here, not in Canada, or the UK, or the EU, where no such regulations exist.

I could go on and on.

Mobile phone: My Father had a mobile phone in his car in 1962, that was able to call anywhere a landline called. I've had briefcase, backpack, brick, flip, smart, satellite phone, no issue.

Airfare: As long as your flying to a subsidized airport (Vegas for instance) airfare isn't that cheap.

Trucking and healthcare deregulation are prime examples of the consumers and/or workers getting fucked.

 

[Andylusion]

I wish that Obama had had the bal..er, back bone to create a legal investigation into the entire medical "industry" to weed out the corruption, the manipulators and graft instead of this "affordable health care" shell game. In fact, that goes for Trump, too. But it won't happen. The business of America IS business, and they wont part with their cash cow easily.

The entire problem with the pharma, is government. More government, is not a solution, to a government caused problem.

You want lower prices on drugs? Deregulate the entire pharma industry. Open the market. Get government out of buying drugs.

As long as you create a system through government that is able to be manipulated, then it will be manipulated. If you open an investigation, they will simply remove one manipulator, and replace them with another manipulator.

The solution is not have a system that can be manipulated.

When has deregulation NOT bitten the consumer in the ass?

Like every single time it's been tried?

Do you know that cell phone, is a perfect example? Prior to the 2000s, it was nearly impossible for cell phones to get wide areas of coverage. The FCC started auctioning off spectrum, which gave rise to nation wide coverage, AND drastically reduced the cost to produce cell phones. Before it was horribly expensive to get the spectrum needed, which increased the cost of service.

So that alone is a perfect example.

Another would be the airlines, which after deregulation, prices fell by nearly half.

View attachment 295440

It would be hard to cite an example where deregulation had a negative effect.

The UK broadband internet is a great example. While speeds are not significantly faster (contrary to claims), what is true is that prices are lower. By opening the market up to as much competition as possible, having many companies competing in a free and open market, the price is significantly cheaper in the UK for broadband, than here in the highly regulated US market.

Another example would be banking. Many of the banking regulations we have in the US, have never existed elsewhere in the world. Yet the sub-prime crash happened here, not in Canada, or the UK, or the EU, where no such regulations exist.

I could go on and on.

Mobile phone: My Father had a mobile phone in his car in 1962, that was able to call anywhere a landline called. I've had briefcase, backpack, brick, flip, smart, satellite phone, no issue.

Airfare: As long as your flying to a subsidized airport (Vegas for instance) airfare isn't that cheap.

Trucking and healthcare deregulation are prime examples of the consumers and/or workers getting fucked.

Trucking has also declined in price, which is why consumers have cheaper goods and a higher standard of living.

Health care deregulation? Surely you are insane. There is no example of 'deregulation' of health care that I can think of.

If you want to look at deregulated healthcare, look at medical tourism. Where do people go for medical tourism? To non-regulated non-government hospitals in other countries, that are a fraction of the cost of our highly regulated hospitals.

 

[Jarlaxle]

You have made numerous claims. Tod has only asked you questions about your claims.

"Why do you hate American Workers" is the BEST response you have given yet to his questions.... because you haven't have given any response to his questions.

If you can't back your claims... maybe you should find something else to do with your time, because conversations this pathetic on your part, are not convincing anyone.

OnePercentFailure "Trump sucks, and we have trade war debt!"

Todd: "How has Trump caused debt?"

OnePercentFailure: "Trump sucks and you hate workers!"


That is what I've seen in the past two dozen posts. You screaming accusations, Todd asking you to about those accusations, and you just responding that Todd much suck too.

That makes you a moron.

We do have a trade war debt, and I posted a link detailing that.

None of your links backed your claim that tariffs caused corporate debt to increase by 25%.
Or that tariffs cause the trucking company bankruptcy.

I never wrote that tariffs caused corporate debt to increase by 25%. I wrote that consumer debt is increasing 25% on foreign products due to tariffs, and I posted a link.

Tariffs are the number one reason trucking is doing poorly. Trucks bring you and I all of our shit, less shit, less truckloads of shit.

I already responded to this before, but I have another thought on this, specifically trucking.

I'm wondering a little bit about if perhaps trucking is being affected by the fall of the retail outlets.

All of the major chain stores, Walmart, Amazon, Kroger, Target and so on... all of them have their own company subsidiary running trucks.

The rest of the retail outlets are on the decline.

More and more, stuff is being ordered online. In fact, I have even bought stuff through Walmart and such, online, and it was delivered.

Instead of truck loads full of products being deliverer to large stores.... A single package of exactly what I want, went through the USPS or UPS.

Based on this turn of economic changes, it seems reasonable to me that the decline in trucking could be tied to that.

Walmart Transportation, LLC. operates trucks, but the majority of truckloads are handled by private contractors.

Amazon has trucks that transport products less than 100 miles. All others are hauled by private.

Kroger has trucks that deliver to stores. All of the product delivered to distribution is private.

Target has trucks that have the Target logo, but the drivers are employed by private contractors. Mostly Schneider.

Are you attempting to stumble upon a POINT?

 

[Jarlaxle]

So it's your belief that Corporate America is good upstanding folks? You're being butt-fucked by them as you read this and it's sad you don't even realize it.

It's my belief that you're a liar.

That's it?

Yes, you lie about many things.

Why do you hate American Workers?

You have made numerous claims. Tod has only asked you questions about your claims.

"Why do you hate American Workers" is the BEST response you have given yet to his questions.... because you haven't have given any response to his questions.

If you can't back your claims... maybe you should find something else to do with your time, because conversations this pathetic on your part, are not convincing anyone.

OnePercentFailure "Trump sucks, and we have trade war debt!"

Todd: "How has Trump caused debt?"

OnePercentFailure: "Trump sucks and you hate workers!"


That is what I've seen in the past two dozen posts. You screaming accusations, Todd asking you to about those accusations, and you just responding that Todd much suck too.

That makes you a moron.

That is his usual posting style. Random statements, assorted horseshit, and five-dollar words...sadly, from a five-cent mind.

 

[KissMy]

I certainly did not suffer under Obama. Don't actually know who did unless it was the illegal aliens he deported. He did not build a wall on the boarder like they used to have in the Soviet Union. Guess he didn't see a need since he was doing it the old fashion way by having them kicked out. Besides, one of my heroes once said "Fixed fortifications are a testament to the stupidity of man". Another thing Obam did not do, he never stood up with Putin and sided with Russia over our intelligence and security services while talking down our allies at a NATO meeting. Just sayin.

What about the little kids he locked in cages, did they suffer? Or did they enjoy it until the day Trump took office?



Fucking hack.

The kids were good under Obama. Trump tortured them packing migrants tightly into cages with standing room only, limited toilet access & no shower or clean clothes for more than 30 days at a time.

 

[Circe]

Awarded the Nobel Peace Prize

HAHAHA!

Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize for being black, and everyone knows this.

 

[deannalw]

Awarded the Nobel Peace Prize

HAHAHA!

Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize for being black, and everyone knows this.

Then they should have given him a half Nobel Peace Prize

 

[Circe]

Awarded the Nobel Peace Prize

HAHAHA!

Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize for being black, and everyone knows this.

Then they should have given him a half Nobel Peace Prize

That's not how it works. Any black is all black. If you're an American, you know this.