we need to repeal Obamacare and replace it with Medicare For All, my friends

[EdwardBaiamonte]

I prefer calling these two unified programs, “universal Health Care”.

but in America we are not communists especially after communism just killed 150 million innocent souls. Do you want Universal Food, Clothing, and Shelter Care too?? Why???

no -

Please try to tell us why you don’t want universal food clothing and shelter care while you do want universal healthcare. How will you learn if you are afraid to try?

 

[badbob85037]

When a law is passed the other party says 'elect me and I will end this unconstitutional law. The truth is you would have to be over 90 years old to ever see a bad law over turned. These idiots in Congress must think we are as stupid as they are as every new law they come up with is called exactly what it is not. It's a wonder they have the time to make up these laws as they are to busy giving away money that we don't have and is not theirs. You stand them on their head they all look the same.

 

[Viktor]

whose with me?

I'm not. Medicare for all would bankrupt this country. As it is, Medicare is running out of money just serving seniors.

 

[jbander]

whose with me?

Russia, Cuba, Venezuela... Everyone living in Socialist Utopia.

So... Did you support Obamacare in the beginning?

Were you fooled, or did you know they intended for Obamacare to destroy private healthcare when they passed it?

Why would anyone give the same morons that wrote Obamacare Overlord authority over their family's healthcare? Now that's just dumb.

Just stupid nonsense. Points made up totally with bullshit. Well learned from the tweety birds lie is always better mentality.

 

[basquebromance]

Obamacare was an enormous on what there was before...which was nothing. but Medicare For All would be an enormous improvement on Obamacare, my friends!

 

[dudmuck]

whose with me?

I'm not. Medicare for all would bankrupt this country. As it is, Medicare is running out of money just serving seniors.

 

[Persistence Of Memory]

whose with me?

I am I am. How do we tell doctors and specialists that they will make half of what they do now. Nurses...etc Longer hours and give better care. I called my doctor and asked and was barred as a patient. Gotta figure a better way to get them on board..

 

[Dagosa]

whose with me?

Medicare for All is even worse than ACA. Just another corporate feeding trough.

Medicare for the elderly improved after some provision in the ACA were mandated.

 

[dblack]

Obamacare was an enormous on what there was before...which was nothing. but Medicare For All would be an enormous improvement on Obamacare, my friends!

Dr. Trump will see you now....

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

whose with me?

Medicare for All is even worse than ACA. Just another corporate feeding trough.

Medicare for the elderly improved after some provision in the ACA were mandated.

Medicare is socialism. It costs about 4 times what it should thus impoverishing us all. A capitalist system would save us about $7000 per year per person. How is that for a giant tax cut and huge improvement in your standard of living?

 

[jbander]

whose with me?

Medicare for All is even worse than ACA. Just another corporate feeding trough.

Medicare for the elderly improved after some provision in the ACA were mandated.

Medicare is socialism. It costs about 4 times what it should thus impoverishing us all. A capitalist system would save us about $7000 per year per person. How is that for a giant tax cut and huge improvement in your standard of living?

what a pile.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

what a pile.


Can you say why it is a pile? Maybe your Mom can help you get your feelings into words?

 

[jbander]

what a pile.


Can you say why it is a pile? Maybe your Mom can help you get your feelings into words?

Your mother lied to you ,she said there was a such thing as socialism in this country and there is no socialism in this country, Never has been never will be. so your sillyness starts of real bad and then moves your mommies comment toward brain dead.

 

[Orangecat]

whose with me?

You're half right: we need to repeal obamacare.
The Constitution, per the 10th amendment, leaves the question of government healthcare up to the individual states.

 

[jbander]

whose with me?

You're half right: we need to repeal obamacare.
The Constitution, per the 10th amendment, leaves the question of government healthcare up to the individual states.

Bullshit , if it contradicts the constitution you your self can literally take this to court yourself and argue your made up point. Which is totally bullshit , the court defines the constitution not some red neck out in bozo land.

 

[jbander]

whose with me?

I'm not. Medicare for all would bankrupt this country. As it is, Medicare is running out of money just serving seniors.

And every Micro township has a swat team.

 

[Orangecat]

Bullshit , if it contradicts the constitution you your self can literally take this to court yourself and argue your made up point. Which is totally bullshit , the court defines the constitution not some red neck out in bozo land.

Is the meaning behind the 10th amendment above your intellectual pay grade? It certainly appears so. You really don't need other people to tell you what to think, even if they have fancy robes and titles.
Maybe you should try calling me some more names in your sad and obvious attempt to point attention away from your shortcomings.
BTW, "yourself" is one word, not two.

 

[Andylusion]

whose with me?

The problem with Medicare for all, is that Medicare does not pay the full cost of health care.

The only reason our health care system has not imploded with mass bankruptcy of all hospitals, is because the hospitals and health care clinics are cost-shifting to private payers.

Meaning that as medicare underpays for care, private payers are over charged to compensate.

If you eliminated private payers, so that everyone was under Medicare, the result would be the entire health care system would go bankrupt.

The only way to then prevent that, would be to drastically increase taxes, to cover increased payments to health care.

Bernie Sanders, ridiculously claimed we could have Medicare for all, with just a 6% across the board tax hike. There is no mathematical way to make a 6% tax, enough to cover medicare for all. The only way that would work, is if Medicare continued to under pay care providers.

That is essentially saying "Doctors will keep working while going bankrupt".

Well that doesn't work.

A more realistic assessment is about 12%. This would have to be a real tax at all income levels, including the poorest of people. A tax like Social Security, which hammers the poor, as much as anyone else.

And as with all socialized systems, the system will need periodic increases in taxes as time goes one. This is true everywhere in Europe, and in Canada, and everywhere that government funded anything, is provided to the people.

Additionally, when the government runs out of money, the hospitals all close, like we saw in Venezuela, Cuba, Greece, and elsewhere.

 

[Orangecat]

The problem with Medicare for all, is that Medicare does not pay the full cost of health care.

The only reason our health care system has not imploded with mass bankruptcy of all hospitals, is because the hospitals and health care clinics are cost-shifting to private payers.

Meaning that as medicare underpays for care, private payers are over charged to compensate.

If you eliminated private payers, so that everyone was under Medicare, the result would be the entire health care system would go bankrupt.

The only way to then prevent that, would be to drastically increase taxes, to cover increased payments to health care.

Bernie Sanders, ridiculously claimed we could have Medicare for all, with just a 6% across the board tax hike. There is no mathematical way to make a 6% tax, enough to cover medicare for all. The only way that would work, is if Medicare continued to under pay care providers.

That is essentially saying "Doctors will keep working while going bankrupt".

Well that doesn't work.

A more realistic assessment is about 12%. This would have to be a real tax at all income levels, including the poorest of people. A tax like Social Security, which hammers the poor, as much as anyone else.

And as with all socialized systems, the system will need periodic increases in taxes as time goes one. This is true everywhere in Europe, and in Canada, and everywhere that government funded anything, is provided to the people.

Additionally, when the government runs out of money, the hospitals all close, like we saw in Venezuela, Cuba, Greece, and elsewhere.

Fantastic assessment.

 

[Andylusion]

The problem with Medicare for all, is that Medicare does not pay the full cost of health care.

The only reason our health care system has not imploded with mass bankruptcy of all hospitals, is because the hospitals and health care clinics are cost-shifting to private payers.

Meaning that as medicare underpays for care, private payers are over charged to compensate.

If you eliminated private payers, so that everyone was under Medicare, the result would be the entire health care system would go bankrupt.

The only way to then prevent that, would be to drastically increase taxes, to cover increased payments to health care.

Bernie Sanders, ridiculously claimed we could have Medicare for all, with just a 6% across the board tax hike. There is no mathematical way to make a 6% tax, enough to cover medicare for all. The only way that would work, is if Medicare continued to under pay care providers.

That is essentially saying "Doctors will keep working while going bankrupt".

Well that doesn't work.

A more realistic assessment is about 12%. This would have to be a real tax at all income levels, including the poorest of people. A tax like Social Security, which hammers the poor, as much as anyone else.

And as with all socialized systems, the system will need periodic increases in taxes as time goes one. This is true everywhere in Europe, and in Canada, and everywhere that government funded anything, is provided to the people.

Additionally, when the government runs out of money, the hospitals all close, like we saw in Venezuela, Cuba, Greece, and elsewhere.

Fantastic assessment.

Just remember that every time you hear people complain about the cost of health care.... Medicare is directly responsible for some of that massive cost. You are paying not just your medicare tax, or your for your own care, but you are also paying for the cost shifted from every medicare patient as well.