Was Adam supposed to sin in God's great plan?

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are you one of them or are you claiming narcotics are only for white people ... or in your case alcohol.

Blacks love Jesus.

 

[BreezeWood]

Blacks love Jesus.

what has that to do with christian / bible capitulation to slavery - and your denial of christian, desert religion recorded history.

do you do your daily, 5 times a day, prayers with your sympathizers.

 

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what has that to do with christian / bible capitulation to slavery - and your denial of christian, desert religion recorded history.

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do you do your daily, 5 times a day, prayers with your sympathizers.

Go ask a black Christian.

 

[BreezeWood]

Go ask a black Christian.

what has that to do with christian / bible capitulation to slavery -

... avoiding your ridiculous denial.

 

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... avoiding your ridiculous denial.

So that’s a no? You don’t want to ask black Christians?

 

[BreezeWood]

So that’s a no? You don’t want to ask black Christians?

what has that to do with christian / bible capitulation to slavery -

there are plenty like you bing, a dime a dozen you claim it is a christian nation -

why are you afraid to own it - it's your heritage. the crucifiers that wrote your book -

can't help stupid if they are christians, something about lack of education and overeating.

 

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there are plenty like you bing, a dime a dozen you claim it is a christian nation -

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why are you afraid to own it - it's your heritage. the crucifiers that wrote your book -

can't help stupid if they are christians, something about lack of education and overeating.

I see you still hasn’t talked to any black Christians.

 

[BreezeWood]

I see you still hasn’t talked to any black Christians.

what has that to do with christian / bible capitulation to slavery -

one can tell a bigot by their derogatory slang - using ridicule for their subject matter ... bing, the christian.

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The New York City Design Commission voted to remove a statue of Thomas Jefferson from the Council's chamber over his history as a slave owner, on Monday.

sad about jefferson - but in fact what was he doing owning "slaves", there is no doubt every slaveowner was a devout christian - hopefully they will require all desert bibles edited for their malicious content. which would be rendering them forever obsolete.

 

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one can tell a bigot by their derogatory slang - using ridicule for their subject matter ... bing, the christian.



sad about jefferson - but in fact what was he doing owning "slaves", there is no doubt every slaveowner was a devout christian - hopefully they will require all desert bibles edited for their malicious content. which would be rendering them forever obsolete.

Black Christians love Jesus.

 

[BreezeWood]

Black Christians love Jesus.

what has that to do with christian / bible capitulation to slavery -

bing - try a new record - that one one broken.

 

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bing - try a new record - that one one broken.

You should go to a black Christian church and tell them what you think of Jesus.

 

[BreezeWood]

You should go to a black Christian church and tell them what you think of Jesus.

what has that to do with christian / bible capitulation to slavery -

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[surada]

All of your arguments are based upon ridiculous renderings of the Bible.

Some think the story is about when hunter-gatherers stopped depending on God's providence and became agricultural societies

 

[Stann]

Was Adam supposed to sin in God's great plan?

Thanks.

Regards
DL

Let's put it this way, if he didn't, there wouldn't be much of a storyline.

 

[Clyde 154]

Was Adam supposed to sin in God's great plan?

Thanks.

Regards
DL

Adam was created without any knowledge of Sin other than the ONE LAW that the Lord God delievered concerning the Tree Of knowledge. The entire law, until sin entered the world (knowledge between right and wrong as derived via free will), consisted of just one law, "And the Lord God commanded the man, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest eat........But of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat; for in that day thou eatest thereof thou shall surely die." -- Gen. 2:16-17

Sin (and the wages thereof.........both physical and Spiritual.....DEATH) entered the world when the Law was broken. Sin is the the transgression of the law of God (1 John 3:4)

Sin can only exist when there is free will knowledge that allows one to discern the difference between right and wrong........thus, no sin can exist in a new born up to the age of reasoned knowledge, nor does sin exist in the animal kingdom.

Jesus was the first born to defeat death. He was the only man that ever lived on earth with the capacity of reasoned knowledge between right wrong, that walked His entire life from birth to death without sin.................Every man from Adam on made a free will decision to sin........knowing the wages thereof. "Wherefore, as by one man (Adam) sin entered the world; and death by sin; so death passeth upon all men; FOR ALL HAVE SINNED........" Rom. 5:12

This passage does not declare that all men are born into sin......but all men must pay the wages of sin (death) WHEN THEY DECIDE TO SIN. The innocent do not have to pay these wages, "Blessed are the poor in spirit (mind)"..........Bless are the Children because they are innocent" (Matt. 5:3.......the poor in spirit the mentally challenged......cannot reason between right and wrong.............Matt. 19:13-15.........children are innocent, such is the kingdom of Heaven"

 

[BreezeWood]

- nor does sin exist in the animal kingdom.

your trying to have both your cake and lunch at the same time -

metaphysically there is no difference among the living beings on planet earth, they all are able to evolve from one state to another ... and all but humanity have no need for a hard copy of the desert religions to accomplish their goals.

those that think it is required anyway, sadly in the multitudes.

 

[Stann]

Adam was created without any knowledge of Sin other than the ONE LAW that the Lord God delievered concerning the Tree Of knowledge. The entire law, until sin entered the world (knowledge between right and wrong as derived via free will), consisted of just one law, "And the Lord God commanded the man, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest eat........But of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat; for in that day thou eatest thereof thou shall surely die." -- Gen. 2:16-17

Sin (and the wages thereof.........both physical and Spiritual.....DEATH) entered the world when the Law was broken. Sin is the the transgression of the law of God (1 John 3:4)

Sin can only exist when there is free will knowledge that allows one to discern the difference between right and wrong........thus, no sin can exist in a new born up to the age of reasoned knowledge, nor does sin exist in the animal kingdom.

Jesus was the first born to defeat death. He was the only man that ever lived on earth with the capacity of reasoned knowledge between right wrong, that walked His entire life from birth to death without sin.................Every man from Adam on made a free will decision to sin........knowing the wages thereof. "Wherefore, as by one man (Adam) sin entered the world; and death by sin; so death passeth upon all men; FOR ALL HAVE SINNED........" Rom. 5:12

This passage does not declare that all men are born into sin......but all men must pay the wages of sin (death) WHEN THEY DECIDE TO SIN. The innocent do not have to pay these wages, "Blessed are the poor in spirit (mind)"..........Bless are the Children because they are innocent" (Matt. 5:3.......the poor in spirit the mentally challenged......cannot reason between right and wrong.............Matt. 19:13-15.........children are innocent, such is the kingdom of Heaven"

It's an allegory. Created to base our belief system on. It never really happened.

 

[Dayton3]

Was Adam supposed to sin in God's great plan?

Thanks.

Regards
DL

no

 

[Clyde 154]

your trying to have both your cake and lunch at the same time -

metaphysically there is no difference among the living beings on planet earth, they all are able to evolve from one state to another ... and all but humanity have no need for a hard copy of the desert religions to accomplish their goals.

those that think it is required anyway, sadly in the multitudes.

Morality is a goal among all "civilized human beings"........yet, you can't explain where the concept of morality came from since it does not exist in nature. Even Darwinism realizes this flaw with the "theory" of evolution. According to natures law.......there is no right no wrong, its simply survival of the strongest species.......morality is based upon each persons concept according to Darwin, yet.......all the eternally righteous laws found in the Judeo/Christian philosophy are found among all the civilized nations on the globe.

FYI: I am not attempting to have anything especially CAKE from your god (with a little "g"....you worship SELF and pretend to be superior to the creating force even though you can't explain the origins of SELF via application of the laws of physics).......I simply presented the actual content of the Word of God, I offered no personal opinion........its all recorded in the Holy Bible and I have not professed to writing one word there in. Such as Mankind knowing the difference between right and wrong and becoming like "US" (the Godhead)....because man gained the knowlege of WHAT constitutes sin from righteousness. (Genesis 3:22)

Law does not protect against sin it simply defines sin (morality or what socieity determines to be moral)........If law could eliminate sin, there would be no criminals in the world.........there would be no murder from the thing socieity determined to make murder IMMORAL and ILLEGAL.

Your problem? You can't stand the idea of being JUDGED.......yet, its not your decision, its God's decisioon to judge you by the words found in the Holy Book. (John 12:48) I can picture you in your parents basement.......in your underwear, pretending to be TUFF........a keyborad warior. You see/COMPREHEND........God does not need you, God does not require anything from anyone (Acts 17:25) its you that has your existence within the God of Creation without ever comprheneding that fact. You are nothing but a minority cancerous skin tag in the reality called life......as 93% of the human population believes in God......with less than 7% of all the smart people in the world claiming they know more than the Creator that gave them their existence.

 

[Clyde 154]

It's an allegory. Created to base our belief system on. It never really happened.

Jesus did not declare the creation narrative to be an Allegory.........nor does the text and subject matter found in Genesis declare creation to be an allegory. Nor should any faithful Christian. Pretending that's God is incapable of creating as He detailed is simply and effort to accept the IDEA of evolution as some kind of truth.....but its never been proven to be a fact of physical law becuase there is NO LAW OF EVOLUTION.