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http://memritv.org/Transcript.asp?P1=1050

Conversation between an Arab female psychologist and a 'much more' important Islamic cleric:

2/21/2006 Clip No. 1050
Arab-American Psychologist Wafa Sultan: There Is No Clash of Civilizations but a Clash between the Mentality of the Middle Ages and That of the 21st Century

Following are excerpts from an interview with Arab-American psychologist Wafa Sultan. The interview was aired on Al-Jazeera TV on February 21, 2006
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Wafa Sultan: The clash we are witnessing around the world is not a clash of religions, or a clash of civilizations. It is a clash between two opposites, between two eras. It is a clash between a mentality that belongs to the Middle Ages and another mentality that belongs to the 21st century. It is a clash between civilization and backwardness, between the civilized and the primitive, between barbarity and rationality. It is a clash between freedom and oppression, between democracy and dictatorship. It is a clash between human rights, on the one hand, and the violation of these rights, on other hand. It is a clash between those who treat women like beasts, and those who treat them like human beings. What we see today is not a clash of civilizations. Civilizations do not clash, but compete.

[...]

Host: I understand from your words that what is happening today is a clash between the culture of the West, and the backwardness and ignorance of the Muslims?

Wafa Sultan: Yes, that is what I mean.

[...]

Host: Who came up with the concept of a clash of civilizations? Was it not Samuel Huntington? It was not Bin Laden. I would like to discuss this issue, if you don't mind...

Wafa Sultan: The Muslims are the ones who began using this expression. The Muslims are the ones who began the clash of civilizations. The Prophet of Islam said: "I was ordered to fight the people until they believe in Allah and His Messenger." When the Muslims divided the people into Muslims and non-Muslims, and called to fight the others until they believe in what they themselves believe, they started this clash, and began this war. In order to start this war, they must reexamine their Islamic books and curricula, which are full of calls for takfir and fighting the infidels.

My colleague has said that he never offends other people's beliefs. What civilization on the face of this earth allows him to call other people by names that they did not choose for themselves? Once, he calls them Ahl Al-Dhimma, another time he calls them the "People of the Book," and yet another time he compares them to apes and pigs, or he calls the Christians "those who incur Allah's wrath." Who told you that they are "People of the Book"? They are not the People of the Book, they are people of many books. All the useful scientific books that you have today are theirs, the fruit of their free and creative thinking. What gives you the right to call them "those who incur Allah's wrath," or "those who have gone astray," and then come here and say that your religion commands you to refrain from offending the beliefs of others?

I am not a Christian, a Muslim, or a Jew. I am a secular human being. I do not believe in the supernatural, but I respect others' right to believe in it.

Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli: Are you a heretic?

Wafa Sultan: You can say whatever you like. I am a secular human being who does not believe in the supernatural...

Dr. Ibrahim Al-Khouli: If you are a heretic, there is no point in rebuking you, since you have blasphemed against Islam, the Prophet, and the Koran...

Wafa Sultan: These are personal matters that do not concern you.

[...]

Wafa Sultan: Brother, you can believe in stones, as long as you don't throw them at me. You are free to worship whoever you want, but other people's beliefs are not your concern, whether they believe that the Messiah is God, son of Mary, or that Satan is God, son of Mary. Let people have their beliefs.

[...]

Wafa Sultan: The Jews have came from the tragedy (of the Holocaust), and forced the world to respect them, with their knowledge, not with their terror, with their work, not their crying and yelling. Humanity owes most of the discoveries and science of the 19th and 20th centuries to Jewish scientists. 15 million people, scattered throughout the world, united and won their rights through work and knowledge. We have not seen a single Jew blow himself up in a German restaurant. We have not seen a single Jew destroy a church. We have not seen a single Jew protest by killing people. The Muslims have turned three Buddha statues into rubble. We have not seen a single Buddhist burn down a Mosque, kill a Muslim, or burn down an embassy. Only the Muslims defend their beliefs by burning down churches, killing people, and destroying embassies. This path will not yield any results. The Muslims must ask themselves what they can do for humankind, before they demand that humankind respect them.
 
dilloduck said:
Really---why can't Mulims be more like Jews?
Once again, racist. Interesting, only Dillo can bring up 'Jews' in a post about two Muslims. :laugh:
 
Kathianne said:
Once again, racist. Interesting, only Dillo can bring up 'Jews' in a post about two Muslims. :laugh:

getting better all the time----you post something that relates to Jews--I respond--and I'M the racist??? :teeth:
 
dilloduck said:
getting better all the time----you post something that relates to Jews--I respond--and I'M the racist??? :teeth:
The fact that she says she is 'secular' does not 'undo' her ancestry. In any case, the 'clash' is not with the Jews, they are only to be annhilated.
 
Kathianne said:
The fact that she says she is 'secular' does not 'undo' her ancestry. In any case, the 'clash' is not with the Jews, they are only to be annhilated.

In her interview she directly compares Jews and Muslims. She
distinctly
points out that Jews are far superior. I could care less what her ancestry is. I'm talking about what she said.
 
dilloduck said:
In her interview she directly compares Jews and Muslims. She points out that Jews are far superior. I could care less what her ancestry is. I'm talking about what she said.
? Because they have 'many books?' Gee Dillo, you sure know how to stretch for your hate.
 
Kathianne said:
? Because they have 'many books?' Gee Dillo, you sure know how to stretch for your hate.

No--she made MANY comparisons to Jews being superior.
( do you read these things you post? )

Wafa Sultan: The Jews have came from the tragedy (of the Holocaust), and forced the world to respect them, with their knowledge, not with their terror, with their work, not their crying and yelling. Humanity owes most of the discoveries and science of the 19th and 20th centuries to Jewish scientists. 15 million people, scattered throughout the world, united and won their rights through work and knowledge. We have not seen a single Jew blow himself up in a German restaurant. We have not seen a single Jew destroy a church. We have not seen a single Jew protest by killing people. The Muslims have turned three Buddha statues into rubble. We have not seen a single Buddhist burn down a Mosque, kill a Muslim, or burn down an embassy. Only the Muslims defend their beliefs by burning down churches, killing people, and destroying embassies. This path will not yield any results. The Muslims must ask themselves what they can do for humankind, before they demand that humankind respect them.
 
dilloduck said:
No--she made MANY comparisons to Jews being superior.
( do you read these things you post? )
Gee, I thought those were facts. :rolleyes:
 
Getting back to the topic Kathianne brought to the board:

Wafa Sultan: The clash we are witnessing around the world is not a clash of religions, or a clash of civilizations. It is a clash between two opposites, between two eras. It is a clash between a mentality that belongs to the Middle Ages and another mentality that belongs to the 21st century. It is a clash between civilization and backwardness, between the civilized and the primitive, between barbarity and rationality. It is a clash between freedom and oppression, between democracy and dictatorship. It is a clash between human rights, on the one hand, and the violation of these rights, on other hand. It is a clash between those who treat women like beasts, and those who treat them like human beings. What we see today is not a clash of civilizations. Civilizations do not clash, but compete.

Excellent summary of the "clash" put into a single paragraph. From what I have read about the Middle East, Sultan summarizes so well the way the militant Arabs see things as well; hence, their extreme anger and humiliation.

And I agree, Kathianne--it will not be surprising at all if Wafa Sultan just suddenly disappears from the scene, never to be heard from again. What courage it must have taken for her to go on Al Jazeera and actually speak those words.
 
Kathianne said:
Once again, racist. Interesting, only Dillo can bring up 'Jews' in a post about two Muslims. :laugh:


In all fairness kat, the article had many mentions of jews in it.
 
Kathianne said:
Gee, I thought those were facts. :rolleyes:

Yes. facts which she believe clearly illustrate that jews should be a model for muslim behavior.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
Then why are you saying dillo injected jew talk into this? it was clearly there from the beginning.
Cause that's where he always goes. If one isn't in agreement with him, then one is Islamophobe and/or part of the Jewish conspiracy. I happen to disagree with him.
 
Kathianne said:
Cause that's where he always goes. If one isn't in agreement with him, then one is Islamophobe and/or part of the Jewish conspiracy. I happen to disagree with him.

That's where your article went. He was just pointing out that jews were being held up as a model; clearly they were.
 

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