Intolerant
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Saddle up Virginians.
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How about we just eliminate people who don't believe in unalienable rights.
Hmm, playing devil's advocate here, but doesn't the list of inalienable rights typically start with "life, liberty"? Your plan would seem self-defeating, unless of course it's based on an alternate definition of "eliminate"
Eliminate from our society.
However you want to define it.
Guns are not an unalienable right.Even unalienable rights are subject to limitations. We have freedom of speech but we also have libel and slander laws.How about we just eliminate people who don't believe in unalienable rights.
Speech is not an unalienable right. It is in the Constitution to prevent our government from making laws limiting speech.
In my world I can prevent anyone I want from speaking to me.
Guns are not an unalienable right.Even unalienable rights are subject to limitations. We have freedom of speech but we also have libel and slander laws.How about we just eliminate people who don't believe in unalienable rights.
Speech is not an unalienable right. It is in the Constitution to prevent our government from making laws limiting speech.
In my world I can prevent anyone I want from speaking to me.
Do yo need a tank in case the Russians invade?So you think you have the right to life, liberty, and property, but not the right to protect your life, liberty, and property?Guns are not an unalienable right.Even unalienable rights are subject to limitations. We have freedom of speech but we also have libel and slander laws.How about we just eliminate people who don't believe in unalienable rights.
Speech is not an unalienable right. It is in the Constitution to prevent our government from making laws limiting speech.
In my world I can prevent anyone I want from speaking to me.
The US seems to work with a Federal system containing semi-autonomous States. Not great but we seem to be OK with pot so far.I'm a supporter of gun control AND civil liberty. I think a compromise is very possible, here's what I'd propose:The comments are the most interesting part. I believe Northam and friends truly do not realize what they will awaken.
Dems deliver how-to lesson in 'quid pro quo' ... on guns - WND
In practice the sanctuary counties can have open carry, no registration, bump stocks, etc., within their counties even if they violate state rules. They'd have to comply with state gun sales regulations for non-county citizens. Any county gun owner must comply with all state and local county regulations when they take their firearms out of their sanctuary counties. Any county gun owner who moves from their sanctuary counties to another VA county must bring their firearms into compliance with their new county rule.
- The sanctuary counties can enact whatever rules they want, inside the borders of that county.
- The sanctuary counties will NOT interfere with or undermine other Virginia counties' gun control measures.
In summary, you can do what you want in your county so long as you do what I want in my county.
That would dissolve the state, and still infringe upon non-sanctuary counties. Better to dissolve the Democrats.
I'm a supporter of gun control AND civil liberty. I think a compromise is very possible, here's what I'd propose:The comments are the most interesting part. I believe Northam and friends truly do not realize what they will awaken.
Dems deliver how-to lesson in 'quid pro quo' ... on guns - WND
In practice the sanctuary counties can have open carry, no registration, bump stocks, etc., within their counties even if they violate state rules. They'd have to comply with state gun sales regulations for non-county citizens. Any county gun owner must comply with all state and local county regulations when they take their firearms out of their sanctuary counties. Any county gun owner who moves from their sanctuary counties to another VA county must bring their firearms into compliance with their new county rule.
- The sanctuary counties can enact whatever rules they want, inside the borders of that county.
- The sanctuary counties will NOT interfere with or undermine other Virginia counties' gun control measures.
In summary, you can do what you want in your county so long as you do what I want in my county.
Guns are not an unalienable right.Even unalienable rights are subject to limitations. We have freedom of speech but we also have libel and slander laws.How about we just eliminate people who don't believe in unalienable rights.
Speech is not an unalienable right. It is in the Constitution to prevent our government from making laws limiting speech.
In my world I can prevent anyone I want from speaking to me.
Do yo need a tank in case the Russians invade?So you think you have the right to life, liberty, and property, but not the right to protect your life, liberty, and property?Guns are not an unalienable right.Even unalienable rights are subject to limitations. We have freedom of speech but we also have libel and slander laws.How about we just eliminate people who don't believe in unalienable rights.
Speech is not an unalienable right. It is in the Constitution to prevent our government from making laws limiting speech.
In my world I can prevent anyone I want from speaking to me.
As I wrote previously, even those unalienable rights are subject to limitations. Capital punishment, prison, and eminent domain come to mind.
Guns are not an unalienable right.Even unalienable rights are subject to limitations. We have freedom of speech but we also have libel and slander laws.How about we just eliminate people who don't believe in unalienable rights.
Speech is not an unalienable right. It is in the Constitution to prevent our government from making laws limiting speech.
In my world I can prevent anyone I want from speaking to me.
And we have laws against crime and murder.Even unalienable rights are subject to limitations. We have freedom of speech but we also have libel and slander laws.How about we just eliminate people who don't believe in unalienable rights.
I was not talking about the Constitution, only VA law. If the county violated the 2nd, it would be between the county and the Feds. No reason for VA to be involved.I'm a supporter of gun control AND civil liberty. I think a compromise is very possible, here's what I'd propose:The comments are the most interesting part. I believe Northam and friends truly do not realize what they will awaken.
Dems deliver how-to lesson in 'quid pro quo' ... on guns - WND
In practice the sanctuary counties can have open carry, no registration, bump stocks, etc., within their counties even if they violate state rules. They'd have to comply with state gun sales regulations for non-county citizens. Any county gun owner must comply with all state and local county regulations when they take their firearms out of their sanctuary counties. Any county gun owner who moves from their sanctuary counties to another VA county must bring their firearms into compliance with their new county rule.
- The sanctuary counties can enact whatever rules they want, inside the borders of that county.
- The sanctuary counties will NOT interfere with or undermine other Virginia counties' gun control measures.
In summary, you can do what you want in your county so long as you do what I want in my county.
it is not OK for any county to violate the Constitution of the United States.
What if your county wanted to suspend any other amendments?
You'd be OK with that?
The relationship is analogous.The US seems to work with a Federal system containing semi-autonomous States. Not great but we seem to be OK with pot so far.I'm a supporter of gun control AND civil liberty. I think a compromise is very possible, here's what I'd propose:The comments are the most interesting part. I believe Northam and friends truly do not realize what they will awaken.
Dems deliver how-to lesson in 'quid pro quo' ... on guns - WND
In practice the sanctuary counties can have open carry, no registration, bump stocks, etc., within their counties even if they violate state rules. They'd have to comply with state gun sales regulations for non-county citizens. Any county gun owner must comply with all state and local county regulations when they take their firearms out of their sanctuary counties. Any county gun owner who moves from their sanctuary counties to another VA county must bring their firearms into compliance with their new county rule.
- The sanctuary counties can enact whatever rules they want, inside the borders of that county.
- The sanctuary counties will NOT interfere with or undermine other Virginia counties' gun control measures.
In summary, you can do what you want in your county so long as you do what I want in my county.
That would dissolve the state, and still infringe upon non-sanctuary counties. Better to dissolve the Democrats.
Indeed, not counties.
If speech is not an unalienable right how can you say the right of the people to keep and bear arms is? I sense you're just wishing, not thinking.Guns are not an unalienable right.Even unalienable rights are subject to limitations. We have freedom of speech but we also have libel and slander laws.How about we just eliminate people who don't believe in unalienable rights.
Speech is not an unalienable right. It is in the Constitution to prevent our government from making laws limiting speech.
In my world I can prevent anyone I want from speaking to me.
The right of the people to keep and bear arms is
I don't disagree with any of this. I'm glad you realize your 2nd amendment rights not withstanding, the gov't still can regulate what you can carry, where you can carry, and how you can use your weapon. The 2nd only says they just can't arbitrarily say no one can have any type of firearm for any reason. I agree with that philosophy and I don't think I know anyone who would ban all guns for all people.And we have laws against crime and murder.Even unalienable rights are subject to limitations. We have freedom of speech but we also have libel and slander laws.How about we just eliminate people who don't believe in unalienable rights.
It is illegal in almost all public spaces to fire a weapon except for a single reason, the defense of yourself or another.
My concealed carry permit allows me to do one thing and one thing only. carry a weapon in such a manner that it cannot be detected by sight. It does not give me the right to draw that weapon or to fire that weapon.
If I fire my weapon in self defense there is no presumption of innocence if I kill a person. I have to legally justify that use of my weapon to the satisfaction of the court and/ or a jury.
The states are also bound by the US Constitution which is why no county in any state can suspend the ConstitutionI was not talking about the Constitution, only VA law. If the county violated the 2nd, it would be between the county and the Feds. No reason for VA to be involved.I'm a supporter of gun control AND civil liberty. I think a compromise is very possible, here's what I'd propose:The comments are the most interesting part. I believe Northam and friends truly do not realize what they will awaken.
Dems deliver how-to lesson in 'quid pro quo' ... on guns - WND
In practice the sanctuary counties can have open carry, no registration, bump stocks, etc., within their counties even if they violate state rules. They'd have to comply with state gun sales regulations for non-county citizens. Any county gun owner must comply with all state and local county regulations when they take their firearms out of their sanctuary counties. Any county gun owner who moves from their sanctuary counties to another VA county must bring their firearms into compliance with their new county rule.
- The sanctuary counties can enact whatever rules they want, inside the borders of that county.
- The sanctuary counties will NOT interfere with or undermine other Virginia counties' gun control measures.
In summary, you can do what you want in your county so long as you do what I want in my county.
it is not OK for any county to violate the Constitution of the United States.
What if your county wanted to suspend any other amendments?
You'd be OK with that?
If speech is not an unalienable right how can you say the right of the people to keep and bear arms is? I sense you're just wishing, not thinking.Guns are not an unalienable right.Even unalienable rights are subject to limitations. We have freedom of speech but we also have libel and slander laws.How about we just eliminate people who don't believe in unalienable rights.
Speech is not an unalienable right. It is in the Constitution to prevent our government from making laws limiting speech.
In my world I can prevent anyone I want from speaking to me.
The right of the people to keep and bear arms is
I'm a supporter of gun control AND civil liberty.
I think a compromise is very possible, here's what I'd propose:
In practice the sanctuary counties can have open carry, no registration, bump stocks, etc., within their counties even if they violate state rules. They'd have to comply with state gun sales regulations for non-county citizens. Any county gun owner must comply with all state and local county regulations when they take their firearms out of their sanctuary counties. Any county gun owner who moves from their sanctuary counties to another VA county must bring their firearms into compliance with their new county rule.
- The sanctuary counties can enact whatever rules they want, inside the borders of that county.
- The sanctuary counties will NOT interfere with or undermine other Virginia counties' gun control measures.
In summary, you can do what you want in your county so long as you do what I want in my county.
Even unalienable rights are subject to limitations. We have freedom of speech but we also have libel and slander laws.
Guns are not an unalienable right.