US signs anti-abortion declaration with group of largely authoritarian governments

[C_Clayton_Jones]

“US signs anti-abortion declaration with group of largely authoritarian governments”

And that conservatives seek to ‘ban’ abortion, compelling women to give birth against their will through force of law, is likewise authoritarian – that’s what the thread is demonstrating.

That abortion might be wrong, immoral, or in violation of religious dogma is for individuals alone to decide in accordance with their own good conscience and good faith – not the government; unlike foreign authoritarian governments, the US Constitution prohibits government from interfering in personal, private decisions such as whether to have a child or not.

 

[Unkotare]

" Hot And Steamy On The Chest "

* Let Us See Those Canines *

These pro-death abortion enthusiasts have turned themselves into inhuman ghouls by training to ignore The sense of morality inherent in all normal human beings.

The individual is responsible for self ownership , that includes when and why they wish to perpetuate their genetic identity and that is not to be a result of dictates from government ...

Yes it is.

 

[Unkotare]

These pro-death abortion enthusiasts have turned themselves into inhuman ghouls by training to ignore The sense of morality inherent in all normal human beings.

Morals are community norms. ....

No, they are not.

 

[Unkotare]

...Valid morals are those which assist the community to survive.

Killing the next generation most certainly does NOT "assist the community to survive."

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Standing up for the lives of the unborn that can not defend themselves is honorable.

If you don't want an abortion, don't have one.

Illogical AND immoral.

Nonsense.

It’s perfectly reasonable: each individual decides for himself his position on the issue; if one believes abortion is wrong, she doesn’t have an abortion.

But that one might believe abortion is wrong, he is not at liberty to use the authority of the state to compel others to believe as he does through force of law – that is clearly illogical.

 

[Unkotare]

...US Constitution prohibits government from interfering in personal, private decisions such as whether to have a child or not.

The US Constitution most certainly does NOT prohibit state, local, or federal government from making laws relating to the taking of human life - of course.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

...Valid morals are those which assist the community to survive.

Killing the next generation most certainly does NOT "assist the community to survive."

In your subjective opinion, not as a fact of law.

And you’re entitled to your opinion; the right to privacy ensures that you continue to be at liberty to express that opinion and oppose abortion consistent with Constitutional case law.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

US signs anti-abortion declaration with group of largely authoritarian governments

Move is part of a campaign by Trump administration to reorient US foreign policy in a more socially conservative direction

www.theguardian.com

The “core supporters” of the declaration are Brazil, Egypt, Hungary, Indonesia and Uganda, and the 27 other signatories include Belarus (where security forces are currently trying to suppress a women-led protest movement), Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates, Iraq, Sudan, South Sudan, Libya.

Most of the signatories are among the 20 worst countries to be a woman according to the Women, Peace and Security Index established by Georgetown University.

The list of Americas new friends must make sobering reading. Not to worry. In a fortnight President Joe will consign this to the bin.

Big fucking deal.

It's already in the bin.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Children are Constitutionally entitled to the EQUAL protections of our laws from the moment thwir lives begin."

So, really, their lives have begun when the spermatozoon is created that will fertilise the egg. After all, at that point everything is living.

True or false?

False.

Your ignorance about biology shines like a beacon in the night.

As does your ignorance of privacy rights jurisprudence.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Nonsense.

It’s perfectly reasonable: each individual decides for himself his position on the issue; if one believes abortion is wrong, she doesn’t have an abortion.

But that one might believe abortion is wrong, he is not at liberty to use the authority of the state to compel others to believe as he does through force of law – that is clearly illogical.

Well if y'all don't like slavery...don't get one.



Did you have any relatives in Alabama or Mississippi before the Civil War in the cotton business, by any chance?
Your "reasoning" that condones a moral abomination seems quite familiar.
A Col. Beauregard Clayton, by any chance?

I would hope we would all see the need to defend the helpless against those that would take away
the most precious gift any human possesses.....life. But that seems to be hoping for too much
in your case.

There shouldn't be a "right" to kill but you just can't seem to understand that.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Political Correct Clown Shoes "

* Not Mine To Keep *

RACIST:
"back door black and he drover her straight away to the clinic - a good man , a concerned father "

Oh save your fake moral outrage , I have known more than a few blacks who do not agree with race mixing and we do not hold any ill will towards each for being in agreement .

If killing off a race is racism , them miscegenation is a pretty good start .

* Blame Yourself *

If the baby killer was such a good daddy why did his daughter have unprotected sex with " a back door black" ? He taught her well I see. I guess you do the same.
Sad really sweety.

Parents do not have absolute control over their children and youth are often very misinformed , which is the condition preferred by the religious reich which pushes abstinence only education with the tax money of other people who object to such ineffective simpleton tripe .

 

[Unkotare]

...

It’s perfectly reasonable: each individual decides for himself his position on the issue; if one believes abortion is wrong, she doesn’t have an abortion.
....

Each individual decides whether or not to steal a car, rob a bank, or murder a family member. Society makes laws regarding such immoral acts, as it justly should.

 

[Unkotare]

...Valid morals are those which assist the community to survive.

Killing the next generation most certainly does NOT "assist the community to survive."

In your subjective opinion......

Oh? You personally believe that slaughtering the next generation helps "assist the community to survive"? Really?

 

[Unkotare]

... the right to privacy ensures that you continue to be at liberty to express that opinion....

That is not a "right to privacy," it is the right of free speech.

 

[cnm]

No, they are not.

That morals are community norms is demonstrated by the way morals vary as communities vary.

 

[cnm]

Oh? You personally believe that slaughtering the next generation helps "assist the community to survive"? Really?

If that is a community norm and it helps the community to survive or prosper it will be a valid moral action.

 

[cnm]

Killing the next generation most certainly does NOT "assist the community to survive."

Such behaviour is often seen in thriving animal species.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Clueless About The Boat "

* Hyperbole *

Well if y'all don't like slavery...don't get one.

Abortion and slavery are not related , as slavery deprives a sentient , sapient , autonomous individual of an entitlement to self ownership ( free roam , free association , progeny ) and self determination ( private property , willful intents - contracts ) which are basic elements of individualism .

Now fictional ishmaelism institutionalizes slavery and you are corroborating those beliefs by arguing for us endorsement in this thread , thus undoubtedly you are the one proposing the position of the south that " if you do not like slavery do not get one " and would have possibly done so in the name of gawd .

Now the civil war was fought between those believing slavery was ordained by gawd and those believing it was not ordained by gawd ; and , the conflict is represented by a flag with two swords crossed where each is adorned in seven stars on a blood red background .

So tell us , which side is entitled to the claim the flag in victory ?

* Gawd Ordained Bobble Heads *

Did you have any relatives in Alabama or Mississippi before the Civil War in the cotton business, by any chance?
Your "reasoning" that condones a moral abomination seems quite familiar. Col. Beauregard Clayton, by any chance?
I would hope we would all see the need to defend the helpless against those that would take away the most precious gift and human possesses.....life. But that seems to be hoping for too much in your case.

If whites were the evil racists the left wishes to scapegoat , then there would not have been any blacks emancipated and allowed to own property .

William Ellison - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

William Ellison Jr. (c. April 1790 – December 5, 1861), born April Ellison, was a U.S. cotton gin maker and blacksmith in South Carolina, and former African-American slave who achieved considerable success in business before the American Civil War. He eventually became a major planter and one of the medium property owners, and one of the wealthiest property owners in the state. According to the 1860 census (in which his surname was listed as "Ellerson"), he owned 63 black slaves, making him the largest of the 171 black slaveholders in South Carolina. He held 40 slaves at his death and more than 1,000 acres (400 ha) of land. From 1830-1865 he and his sons were the only free blacks in Sumter County, South Carolina to own slaves.

During the American Civil War, Ellison and his sons supported the Confederate States of America and gave the government substantial donations and aid. A grandson fought informally with the regular Confederate Army and survived the war.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

US signs anti-abortion declaration with group of largely authoritarian governments

Move is part of a campaign by Trump administration to reorient US foreign policy in a more socially conservative direction

www.theguardian.com

The “core supporters” of the declaration are Brazil, Egypt, Hungary, Indonesia and Uganda, and the 27 other signatories include Belarus (where security forces are currently trying to suppress a women-led protest movement), Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates, Iraq, Sudan, South Sudan, Libya.

Most of the signatories are among the 20 worst countries to be a woman according to the Women, Peace and Security Index established by Georgetown University.

The list of Americas new friends must make sobering reading. Not to worry. In a fortnight President Joe will consign this to the bin.

Surely, there is no other human right that is as basic and as essential as the right not to be summarily put to death for no better reason that that one's existence is an inconvenience to someone else.

Anyone who defends a “right” to kill innocent children in cold blood completely forfeits any credibility in claiming any concern for human rights or human life. Abortion is one of the most heinous and inexcusable human rights violations taking place in the world these days.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Just how "authoritarian" is ripping an unborn baby out of the womb and murdering her/him?

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Its none of your fucking business.

How authoritarian is it to murder a 57 (almost 58)-year-old mentally and morally-retarded Welsh sociopath?