US General Asks India for Military Assistance in Afghanistan

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Afghanistan is a very critical country for both India and the U.S. due to its geography.

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NEW DELHI — The commander in charge of US forces in Afghanistan has asked India to step up military aid in the Asian country. Gen. John Nicholson's call to action comes as Western sanctions against Russia is leading to a paucity of spares for Russian-made weaponry used by Afghan forces.

Speaking to journalists Wednesday after meeting with India's National Security Adviser Ajit Doval, Foreign Secretary Subrahmanyam Jaishankar and Defence Secretary G.Mohan Kumar, the US Army officer said: "Due to sanctions on Russia, it's difficult to acquire supplies of spare parts for Russian military platforms, because much of the money is given to Afghanistan by donors who have sanctions against Russia in place."

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US General Asks India for Military Assistance in Afghanistan
 
This article has a bit more precise information.

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Dramatic but overlooked news this week: India decided with the U.S. command in Afghanistan to send in This expressly includes the Indians providing copters, and training as well, to the Afghans for full-scale battles against the Islamist network built up by Pakistan called the Haqqanis. That’s the definition of ”war by proxy.” The Indian-supplied attack copters will take and return massive fire from the Pakistan-backed forces.

Every aspect of this cries, deliberately: “Proxy War.” First, the deal between the U.S. and India was made at the highest levels. To New Delhi came General John Nicholson, a four-star general serving as the commander in charge of U.S. forces in Afghanistan. When I was in Afghanistan in 2011 as part of serving on the Commission on Wartime Contracting in Iraq and Afghanistan, I met Nicholson’s predecessor, and saw his immense scope of military and diplomatic responsibility. Who met with Nicholson: India’s National Security Adviser Ajit Doval, Foreign Secretary S. Jaishankar, and Defense Secretary G. Mohan Kumar. This is a joint war comand for deciding India’s course in the proxy war.

Second, a very ingenious opening wartime mode of supply got arranged. The Afghan Air Force still supplies MI-25 Russian attack copters (among others), because many of their air and ground crews trained on copters inherited in the 1980s from the puppet Russian regime, for which parts are scarce/ As General Nicholson said: “The Afghans have asked for more of these helicopters. There is an immediate need for more. When there aircraft come in, they immediately get into the fight.” Note twice the term “immediate.” When the U.S. military commander in charge, the four-star general, says “immediate” twice, he is telling his troops that their butts will be in a sling unless it gets done yesterday, if not earlier.

General Nicholson went on: “We are building the Afghan Air Forces as a critical component of security. That [the Afghan air force] is built on several airframes. Some are older Russian models integrating newer ones. We need more aircraft, and we are looking at how we can meet that need.”

War Between India With The US - And Pakistan - Started This Week In Afghanistan - Proxy War That Is
 
I'm not too sure that Pakistan would like India traipsing around with tanks and guns on the other side of their country.
 
But first Obama/Clinton will have to send India billions out of American paychecks for India's help. Then billions more to Iran to keep them happy. Then billions more to Yemen, then Syrian rebels called ISIS, then......

India has an independent foreign policy and as such does not expect or receive foreign aids from the US. The countries that receive billions of dollars in aid are Israel, Egypt, Pakistan, Turkey and few other middle eastern countries.
 
but what will IRAN say?
India would not give a ratz azz what Iran would say.

Pakistan on the other hand could make life very miserable for India however.

May be that was in response to Pakistanese making life miserable for Indians. Anyhow Chinese and Pakistanese have been making India's life miserable for decades now -- nothing new there.
 
Afghanistan is a very critical country for both India and the U.S. due to its geography.

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NEW DELHI — The commander in charge of US forces in Afghanistan has asked India to step up military aid in the Asian country. Gen. John Nicholson's call to action comes as Western sanctions against Russia is leading to a paucity of spares for Russian-made weaponry used by Afghan forces.

Speaking to journalists Wednesday after meeting with India's National Security Adviser Ajit Doval, Foreign Secretary Subrahmanyam Jaishankar and Defence Secretary G.Mohan Kumar, the US Army officer said: "Due to sanctions on Russia, it's difficult to acquire supplies of spare parts for Russian military platforms, because much of the money is given to Afghanistan by donors who have sanctions against Russia in place."

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US General Asks India for Military Assistance in Afghanistan
Your premise is incorrect. Afghanistan can only be considered "very" critical to US interests because it has been infested by radical Islam but certainly not because of it's geography. There is precious little in the way of resources ( except heroin poppies) and it is certainly not in a strategic position for trade nor much else since the end of the Cold War. A diplomat would never say that, but anyone with a lick of common sense can figure it out.

It is important geographically to its neighbors alone, Pakistan, India, Russia and Iran.
 
Afghanistan is a very critical country for both India and the U.S. due to its geography.

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NEW DELHI — The commander in charge of US forces in Afghanistan has asked India to step up military aid in the Asian country. Gen. John Nicholson's call to action comes as Western sanctions against Russia is leading to a paucity of spares for Russian-made weaponry used by Afghan forces.

Speaking to journalists Wednesday after meeting with India's National Security Adviser Ajit Doval, Foreign Secretary Subrahmanyam Jaishankar and Defence Secretary G.Mohan Kumar, the US Army officer said: "Due to sanctions on Russia, it's difficult to acquire supplies of spare parts for Russian military platforms, because much of the money is given to Afghanistan by donors who have sanctions against Russia in place."

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US General Asks India for Military Assistance in Afghanistan
Your premise is incorrect. Afghanistan can only be considered "very" critical to US interests because it has been infested by radical Islam but certainly not because of it's geography. There is precious little in the way of resources ( except heroin poppies) and it is certainly not in a strategic position for trade nor much else since the end of the Cold War. A diplomat would never say that, but anyone with a lick of common sense can figure it out.

It is important geographically to its neighbors alone, Pakistan, India, Russia and Iran.

It was unstable Afghanistan which was utilized by Pakistan as a safe haven to train Al Queda. Al Queda declared war on US and hit US targets on multiple occasions. Therefore, it is in the interest of US and other like minded countries to help Afghanistan in its nation building efforts.
 
But first Obama/Clinton will have to send India billions out of American paychecks for India's help. Then billions more to Iran to keep them happy. Then billions more to Yemen, then Syrian rebels called ISIS, then......

India has an independent foreign policy and as such does not expect or receive foreign aids from the US. The countries that receive billions of dollars in aid are Israel, Egypt, Pakistan, Turkey and few other middle eastern countries.

U.S. Gives Financial Aid to 96% of All Countries

According to the federal government, for fiscal year 2012, “The United States remained the world’s largest bilateral donor, obligating approximately $48.4 billion—$31.2 billion in economic assistance and $17.2 billion in military assistance.” However, “obligated” funds are not the same as “dispersed.”

The U.S. disbursed $33.2 billion—$19 billion in economic assistance to 184 countries and $14.2 billion in military assistance to 142 countries. Out of the top six U.S. foreign aid recipients, five of them were Muslim countries. And yet it seems the U.S. can’t buy good press in the Middle East.

The UN boasts 193 members, and the U.S. provided economic assistance to 184 of them, or 96% of the countries in the world.

While Clinton rolls out Obama's old campaign speech about our money going to our infrastructure, to bridges and roads, and American needs. :lmao:
 
Afghanistan is a very critical country for both India and the U.S. due to its geography.

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NEW DELHI — The commander in charge of US forces in Afghanistan has asked India to step up military aid in the Asian country. Gen. John Nicholson's call to action comes as Western sanctions against Russia is leading to a paucity of spares for Russian-made weaponry used by Afghan forces.

Speaking to journalists Wednesday after meeting with India's National Security Adviser Ajit Doval, Foreign Secretary Subrahmanyam Jaishankar and Defence Secretary G.Mohan Kumar, the US Army officer said: "Due to sanctions on Russia, it's difficult to acquire supplies of spare parts for Russian military platforms, because much of the money is given to Afghanistan by donors who have sanctions against Russia in place."

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US General Asks India for Military Assistance in Afghanistan
Your premise is incorrect. Afghanistan can only be considered "very" critical to US interests because it has been infested by radical Islam but certainly not because of it's geography. There is precious little in the way of resources ( except heroin poppies) and it is certainly not in a strategic position for trade nor much else since the end of the Cold War. A diplomat would never say that, but anyone with a lick of common sense can figure it out.

It is important geographically to its neighbors alone, Pakistan, India, Russia and Iran.

It was unstable Afghanistan which was utilized by Pakistan as a safe haven to train Al Queda. Al Queda declared war on US and hit US targets on multiple occasions. Therefore, it is in the interest of US and other like minded countries to help Afghanistan in its nation building efforts.
Obviously, and I did mention that it's importance is only because of it's infestation of radical Islam, but it's geographical importance to the US is a bit like that of Bolivia, a country which it has much in common although on the other side of the world.
 
But first Obama/Clinton will have to send India billions out of American paychecks for India's help. Then billions more to Iran to keep them happy. Then billions more to Yemen, then Syrian rebels called ISIS, then......

India has an independent foreign policy and as such does not expect or receive foreign aids from the US. The countries that receive billions of dollars in aid are Israel, Egypt, Pakistan, Turkey and few other middle eastern countries.

U.S. Gives Financial Aid to 96% of All Countries

According to the federal government, for fiscal year 2012, “The United States remained the world’s largest bilateral donor, obligating approximately $48.4 billion—$31.2 billion in economic assistance and $17.2 billion in military assistance.” However, “obligated” funds are not the same as “dispersed.”

The U.S. disbursed $33.2 billion—$19 billion in economic assistance to 184 countries and $14.2 billion in military assistance to 142 countries. Out of the top six U.S. foreign aid recipients, five of them were Muslim countries. And yet it seems the U.S. can’t buy good press in the Middle East.

The UN boasts 193 members, and the U.S. provided economic assistance to 184 of them, or 96% of the countries in the world.

I know that US is the largest donor. I started a thread about it a while back but I got attacked because it turned out that the Israel was the largest recipient of US aid. BTW, I am against shipping our hard earned money to all foreign countries. Can you say that for yourself?
 
Afghanistan is a very critical country for both India and the U.S. due to its geography.

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NEW DELHI — The commander in charge of US forces in Afghanistan has asked India to step up military aid in the Asian country. Gen. John Nicholson's call to action comes as Western sanctions against Russia is leading to a paucity of spares for Russian-made weaponry used by Afghan forces.

Speaking to journalists Wednesday after meeting with India's National Security Adviser Ajit Doval, Foreign Secretary Subrahmanyam Jaishankar and Defence Secretary G.Mohan Kumar, the US Army officer said: "Due to sanctions on Russia, it's difficult to acquire supplies of spare parts for Russian military platforms, because much of the money is given to Afghanistan by donors who have sanctions against Russia in place."

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US General Asks India for Military Assistance in Afghanistan
Your premise is incorrect. Afghanistan can only be considered "very" critical to US interests because it has been infested by radical Islam but certainly not because of it's geography. There is precious little in the way of resources ( except heroin poppies) and it is certainly not in a strategic position for trade nor much else since the end of the Cold War. A diplomat would never say that, but anyone with a lick of common sense can figure it out.

It is important geographically to its neighbors alone, Pakistan, India, Russia and Iran.

It was unstable Afghanistan which was utilized by Pakistan as a safe haven to train Al Queda. Al Queda declared war on US and hit US targets on multiple occasions. Therefore, it is in the interest of US and other like minded countries to help Afghanistan in its nation building efforts.
Obviously, and I did mention that it's importance is only because of it's infestation of radical Islam, but it's geographical importance to the US is a bit like that of Bolivia, a country which it has much in common although on the other side of the world.

Afghanistan borders with Pakistan, Iran, China and few central Asian countries. Also, India and Russia are not too far from Afghanistan. This makes it an ideal location for a military base because US has tensions with Iran, China and Russia that can spiral into a war.
 
Afghanistan is a very critical country for both India and the U.S. due to its geography.

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NEW DELHI — The commander in charge of US forces in Afghanistan has asked India to step up military aid in the Asian country. Gen. John Nicholson's call to action comes as Western sanctions against Russia is leading to a paucity of spares for Russian-made weaponry used by Afghan forces.

Speaking to journalists Wednesday after meeting with India's National Security Adviser Ajit Doval, Foreign Secretary Subrahmanyam Jaishankar and Defence Secretary G.Mohan Kumar, the US Army officer said: "Due to sanctions on Russia, it's difficult to acquire supplies of spare parts for Russian military platforms, because much of the money is given to Afghanistan by donors who have sanctions against Russia in place."

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US General Asks India for Military Assistance in Afghanistan
Your premise is incorrect. Afghanistan can only be considered "very" critical to US interests because it has been infested by radical Islam but certainly not because of it's geography. There is precious little in the way of resources ( except heroin poppies) and it is certainly not in a strategic position for trade nor much else since the end of the Cold War. A diplomat would never say that, but anyone with a lick of common sense can figure it out.

It is important geographically to its neighbors alone, Pakistan, India, Russia and Iran.

It was unstable Afghanistan which was utilized by Pakistan as a safe haven to train Al Queda. Al Queda declared war on US and hit US targets on multiple occasions. Therefore, it is in the interest of US and other like minded countries to help Afghanistan in its nation building efforts.
Obviously, and I did mention that it's importance is only because of it's infestation of radical Islam, but it's geographical importance to the US is a bit like that of Bolivia, a country which it has much in common although on the other side of the world.

Afghanistan borders with Pakistan, Iran, China and few central Asian countries. Also, India and Russia are not too far from Afghanistan. This makes it an ideal location for a military base because US has tensions with Iran, China and Russia that can spiral into a war.
There are several "stans" in which the US could establish a base if needed as indeed it had done in the past, and with far better security conditions.

Afghanistan is not geographically very strategic to the US, which is why it was abandoned after the Cold War.
 
Afghanistan is a very critical country for both India and the U.S. due to its geography.

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NEW DELHI — The commander in charge of US forces in Afghanistan has asked India to step up military aid in the Asian country. Gen. John Nicholson's call to action comes as Western sanctions against Russia is leading to a paucity of spares for Russian-made weaponry used by Afghan forces.

Speaking to journalists Wednesday after meeting with India's National Security Adviser Ajit Doval, Foreign Secretary Subrahmanyam Jaishankar and Defence Secretary G.Mohan Kumar, the US Army officer said: "Due to sanctions on Russia, it's difficult to acquire supplies of spare parts for Russian military platforms, because much of the money is given to Afghanistan by donors who have sanctions against Russia in place."

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US General Asks India for Military Assistance in Afghanistan
Your premise is incorrect. Afghanistan can only be considered "very" critical to US interests because it has been infested by radical Islam but certainly not because of it's geography. There is precious little in the way of resources ( except heroin poppies) and it is certainly not in a strategic position for trade nor much else since the end of the Cold War. A diplomat would never say that, but anyone with a lick of common sense can figure it out.

It is important geographically to its neighbors alone, Pakistan, India, Russia and Iran.

It was unstable Afghanistan which was utilized by Pakistan as a safe haven to train Al Queda. Al Queda declared war on US and hit US targets on multiple occasions. Therefore, it is in the interest of US and other like minded countries to help Afghanistan in its nation building efforts.
Obviously, and I did mention that it's importance is only because of it's infestation of radical Islam, but it's geographical importance to the US is a bit like that of Bolivia, a country which it has much in common although on the other side of the world.

Afghanistan borders with Pakistan, Iran, China and few central Asian countries. Also, India and Russia are not too far from Afghanistan. This makes it an ideal location for a military base because US has tensions with Iran, China and Russia that can spiral into a war.
There are several "stans" from which the US could establish a base if needed as indeed it had done in the past, and with far better security conditions.

Afghanistan is not geographically very strategic to the US, which is why it was abandoned after the Cold War.

You do not even have a faint clue on the ground realities of the region. Pakistan no longer is considered a reliable ally by the US. This leaves Afghanistan as a only real choice for a base if shooting starts.
 
but what will IRAN say?

Why would Iran or Israel be interested in Afghanistan?

why include Israel in the issue? Iran has a close HISTORICAL
connection to Afghanistan. ----Afghanistan was once part of the Persian empire and LINGUISTICALLY and culturally they are connected. Also----Shiites do constitute a significant minority in Afghanistan and ---OF COURSE ---consider themselves the victims of sunni oppression. But you knew that already---Vik.......just playing coy? ----Israel has no
significant connection to Afghanistan-----all the Afghani jews
LEFT------as did the hindus and Buddhists. Lately I am reading of some evidence of Hezbollah activity in Afghanistan----
you can feign surprise if you wish-------feel free. I have heard
rumours that there are two kosher afghani restaurants somewhere in the state of New York-----should you be interested. On a very personal level----the holiday on which I was born is "purim"------it has an Afghani connection-----
the first wife of the JOOOS 2nd FAVE KING----Ahasueros
was probably the son of Cyrus----the all time fave--king of Persia. The first wife of Ahasueros was AFGHANI----
one named VASHTI------all very important in history-----
I assume they all spoke farsi back then. I was named for one of the chicks in that story.. It is actually a Persian name----
OF COURSE I AM INTERESTED------sorta. As far as I know
Israel has nothing to do with Afghanistan------Pakistan does.
Afghanistan harbors the friendly Taliban
 

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