US carbon emissions could go to zero overnight and the rest of the world would replace it in 5 years

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The US could go to zero CO2 emissions and the world's CO2 emissions would still increase.

In 2013 the US emitted 5.8 billion tons of CO2. This is 15% of the world's 39.8 billion tons of CO2 emissions. Based on the last 12 years, the US has been decreasing their CO2 emissions by 0.03 billion tons per year. At this rate, by the year 2030, the US's CO2 emissions will fall to 5.2 billion tons of CO2 per year.

In 2013 China emitted 11 billion tons of CO2. This is 41.5% of the world's 39.8 billion tons of CO2 emissions. Based on the last 12 years, the ROW is increasing their CO2 emissions by 0.5 billion tons per year. At this rate, by the year 2030, the ROW CO2 emissions will be 21.2 billion tons of CO2 per year.

In 2013 the Rest of The World (ROW) - excluding the US, EU and China emitted 19.2 billion tons of CO2. This is 28% of the world's 39.8 billion tons of CO2 emissions. Based on the last 12 years, China is increasing their CO2 emissions by 0.6 billion tons per year. At this rate, by the year 2030, China's CO2 emissions will be 27.2 billion tons of CO2 per year.

Every 5 years China and the ROW will add CO2 emissions equivalent to what the US emits in total.

Global Carbon Project, converted from metric tons
 
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Overpopulation is the problem.
The primary reason CO2 emission are increasing is that the earth's population is increasing. Per capita CO2 emission has leveled off at about 5 metric tons per person. World CO2 emissions continue to increase by 960 million metric tons per year. The increase is driven by population growth; not per capita usage. The population growth is occurring in the lower socioeconomic regions of the planet which is where CO2 emission growth is occurring.

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The US could go to zero CO2 emissions and the world's CO2 emissions would still increase.

In 2013 the US emitted 5.8 billion tons of CO2. This is 15% of the world's 39.8 billion tons of CO2 emissions. Based on the last 12 years, the US has been decreasing their CO2 emissions by 0.03 billion tons per year. At this rate, by the year 2030, the US's CO2 emissions will fall to 5.2 billion tons of CO2 per year.

In 2013 China emitted 11 billion tons of CO2. This is 41.5% of the world's 39.8 billion tons of CO2 emissions. Based on the last 12 years, the ROW is increasing their CO2 emissions by 0.5 billion tons per year. At this rate, by the year 2030, the ROW CO2 emissions will be 21.2 billion tons of CO2 per year.

In 2013 the Rest of The World (ROW) - excluding the US, EU and China emitted 19.2 billion tons of CO2. This is 28% of the world's 39.8 billion tons of CO2 emissions. Based on the last 12 years, China is increasing their CO2 emissions by 0.6 billion tons per year. At this rate, by the year 2030, China's CO2 emissions will be 27.2 billion tons of CO2 per year.

Every 5 years China and the ROW will add CO2 emissions equivalent to what the US emits in total.

Global Carbon Project, converted from metric tons

So what's your point? Do you think the US should not attempt to reduce its own emissions?

The climate accords have all been multinational agreements. The US is not acting by itself here and some other countries are doing far more than are we to reduce CO2 emissions.
 
The US could go to zero CO2 emissions and the world's CO2 emissions would still increase.

In 2013 the US emitted 5.8 billion tons of CO2. This is 15% of the world's 39.8 billion tons of CO2 emissions. Based on the last 12 years, the US has been decreasing their CO2 emissions by 0.03 billion tons per year. At this rate, by the year 2030, the US's CO2 emissions will fall to 5.2 billion tons of CO2 per year.

In 2013 China emitted 11 billion tons of CO2. This is 41.5% of the world's 39.8 billion tons of CO2 emissions. Based on the last 12 years, the ROW is increasing their CO2 emissions by 0.5 billion tons per year. At this rate, by the year 2030, the ROW CO2 emissions will be 21.2 billion tons of CO2 per year.

In 2013 the Rest of The World (ROW) - excluding the US, EU and China emitted 19.2 billion tons of CO2. This is 28% of the world's 39.8 billion tons of CO2 emissions. Based on the last 12 years, China is increasing their CO2 emissions by 0.6 billion tons per year. At this rate, by the year 2030, China's CO2 emissions will be 27.2 billion tons of CO2 per year.

Every 5 years China and the ROW will add CO2 emissions equivalent to what the US emits in total.

Global Carbon Project, converted from metric tons

So what's your point? Do you think the US should not attempt to reduce its own emissions?

The climate accords have all been multinational agreements. The US is not acting by itself here and some other countries are doing far more than are we to reduce CO2 emissions.
My point is that we are not the problem. We are reducing emissions. Those accords aren't worth the paper they are written on. Every single person on this planet could sign those accords and we will still continue to grow our emssions as long as we continue to grow our population.
 
My point is that we are not the problem.

We being the US or humanity?

We are reducing emissions.

Energy-related CO2 emissions for first six months of 2016 are lowest since 1991 - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

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U.S. energy-related carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions totaled 2,530 million metric tons in the first six months of 2016. This was the lowest emissions level for the first six months of the year since 1991, as mild weather and changes in the fuels used to generate electricity contributed to the decline in energy-related emissions. EIA’s Short-Term Energy Outlook projects that energy-associated CO2 emissions will fall to 5,179 million metric tons in 2016, the lowest annual level since 1992.

Yes, but not enough. We (humanity, all parts) need to make further reductions. We (the US) are still adding billions of tons of CO2 to the atmosphere annually.

Those accords aren't worth the paper they are written on. Every single person on this planet could sign those accords and we will still continue to grow our emssions as long as we continue to grow our population.

That overpopulation is a problem on a number of fronts is no secret. However, the replacement of fossil fuel technology with alternative technologies with zero emissions WILL bring down the per capita emissions without first stopping population growth.

You've repeated yourself here several times with this theme. Do you actually have a suggestion?
 
You've still not explained your point. What do you think the US should be doing in this regard?
 
And, for the third time, what is your point? What do you believe the US should be doing in response to these amazing facts you've just revealed?
 
In 2013 the US emitted 5.8 billion tons of CO2. This is 15% of the world's 39.8 billion tons of CO2 emissions. Based on the last 12 years, the US has been decreasing their CO2 emissions by 0.03 billion tons per year. At this rate, by the year 2030, the US's CO2 emissions will fall to 5.2 billion tons of CO2 per year.

In 2013 China emitted 11 billion tons of CO2. This is 41.5% of the world's 39.8 billion tons of CO2 emissions. Based on the last 12 years, the ROW is increasing their CO2 emissions by 0.5 billion tons per year. At this rate, by the year 2030, the ROW CO2 emissions will be 21.2 billion tons of CO2 per year.
So you have a math degree from Trump University?

Say the US pollutes twice as much, 5.8 billion times 2 equals 11.6 billion tons of CO2. 15% times 2 equals 30%.

How is it that the US can theoretically pollute more than China and still have a lower percentage of it at the same time?
 
Not if we managed to create a game changing alternative energy. Which will happen eventually, but not during the next 4 year's assault on ingenuity.


s0n......hate to break it to you but all legitimate projections have renewables at only 10% at 2050. Even Obama's EIA projects this..........and most of the 10% will be hydro. The game changing wont be seen by a single swinging dick in this forum.:eusa_dance::eusa_dance::2up:. Because those not in the religion know....................costs matter!:coffee:
 
In 2013 the US emitted 5.8 billion tons of CO2. This is 15% of the world's 39.8 billion tons of CO2 emissions. Based on the last 12 years, the US has been decreasing their CO2 emissions by 0.03 billion tons per year. At this rate, by the year 2030, the US's CO2 emissions will fall to 5.2 billion tons of CO2 per year.

In 2013 China emitted 11 billion tons of CO2. This is 41.5% of the world's 39.8 billion tons of CO2 emissions. Based on the last 12 years, the ROW is increasing their CO2 emissions by 0.5 billion tons per year. At this rate, by the year 2030, the ROW CO2 emissions will be 21.2 billion tons of CO2 per year.
So you have a math degree from Trump University?

Say the US pollutes twice as much, 5.8 billion times 2 equals 11.6 billion tons of CO2. 15% times 2 equals 30%.

How is it that the US can theoretically pollute more than China and still have a lower percentage of it at the same time?


LOL.......nobody cares about your ghey math s0n!!!:gay:


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ps.....Obama EIA graph displays the exact same thing......will post upon request:bye1:
 
In 2013 the US emitted 5.8 billion tons of CO2. This is 15% of the world's 39.8 billion tons of CO2 emissions. Based on the last 12 years, the US has been decreasing their CO2 emissions by 0.03 billion tons per year. At this rate, by the year 2030, the US's CO2 emissions will fall to 5.2 billion tons of CO2 per year.

In 2013 China emitted 11 billion tons of CO2. This is 41.5% of the world's 39.8 billion tons of CO2 emissions. Based on the last 12 years, the ROW is increasing their CO2 emissions by 0.5 billion tons per year. At this rate, by the year 2030, the ROW CO2 emissions will be 21.2 billion tons of CO2 per year.
So you have a math degree from Trump University?

Say the US pollutes twice as much, 5.8 billion times 2 equals 11.6 billion tons of CO2. 15% times 2 equals 30%.

How is it that the US can theoretically pollute more than China and still have a lower percentage of it at the same time?
lol, no I read the column for the rest of the world by mistake. Sue me. It should have read 27.6%
 
In 2013 the US emitted 5.8 billion tons of CO2. This is 15% of the world's 39.8 billion tons of CO2 emissions. Based on the last 12 years, the US has been decreasing their CO2 emissions by 0.03 billion tons per year. At this rate, by the year 2030, the US's CO2 emissions will fall to 5.2 billion tons of CO2 per year.

In 2013 China emitted 11 billion tons of CO2. This is 41.5% of the world's 39.8 billion tons of CO2 emissions. Based on the last 12 years, the ROW is increasing their CO2 emissions by 0.5 billion tons per year. At this rate, by the year 2030, the ROW CO2 emissions will be 21.2 billion tons of CO2 per year.
So you have a math degree from Trump University?

Say the US pollutes twice as much, 5.8 billion times 2 equals 11.6 billion tons of CO2. 15% times 2 equals 30%.

How is it that the US can theoretically pollute more than China and still have a lower percentage of it at the same time?


LOL.......nobody cares about your ghey math s0n!!!:gay:






ps.....Obama EIA graph displays the exact same thing......will post upon request:bye1:
I see, so then you believe America is the problem, right?
 
You've still not explained your point. What do you think the US should be doing in this regard?
I can answer that just as soon as you admit that you were wrong about the geologic timing of bipolar glaciation which BTW had no effect on what I was discussing which is why you wouldn't answer what you agreed with. At this point you can't even claim intellectual dishonesty because you have no intellect.
 
In 2013 the US emitted 5.8 billion tons of CO2. This is 15% of the world's 39.8 billion tons of CO2 emissions. Based on the last 12 years, the US has been decreasing their CO2 emissions by 0.03 billion tons per year. At this rate, by the year 2030, the US's CO2 emissions will fall to 5.2 billion tons of CO2 per year.

In 2013 China emitted 11 billion tons of CO2. This is 41.5% of the world's 39.8 billion tons of CO2 emissions. Based on the last 12 years, the ROW is increasing their CO2 emissions by 0.5 billion tons per year. At this rate, by the year 2030, the ROW CO2 emissions will be 21.2 billion tons of CO2 per year.
So you have a math degree from Trump University?

Say the US pollutes twice as much, 5.8 billion times 2 equals 11.6 billion tons of CO2. 15% times 2 equals 30%.

How is it that the US can theoretically pollute more than China and still have a lower percentage of it at the same time?


LOL.......nobody cares about your ghey math s0n!!!:gay:






ps.....Obama EIA graph displays the exact same thing......will post upon request:bye1:
I see, so then you believe America is the problem, right?



Not sure what you mean?
 

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