Ukrainian officer is tired of lies!

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Ukrainian general Viktor Muzhenko is now in conflict with his government, US and most European governments. He claimed that Russia has no soldiers fighting for its side in Ukraine. Besides, he contravenes sanctions regime that was applied against Russia.
If his words are true then he's a hero. If not, he's a traitor. Anyway, his career in modern Ukrainian forces is finished.

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The Chief of Staff of Ukraine’s Armed Forces, General Viktor Muzhenko, is saying, in that news-report, which is dated on Thursday January 29th, that the only Russian citizens who are fighting in the contested region, are residents in that region, or of Ukraine, and also some Russian citizens (and this does not deny that perhaps some of other countries’ citizens are fighting there, inasmuch as "American mercenaries have already been noted to have been participating on the Ukrainian Government’s side"), who “are members of illegal armed groups,” meaning fighters who are not paid by any government, but instead are just “individual citizens” (as opposed to foreign-government-paid ones). General Muzhenko also says, emphatically, that the “Ukrainian army is not fighting with the regular units of the Russian army.”

Information Clearing House - ICH
 
A person with nick name Kozak_Mamai, who positions himself to be a Ukrainian patriot, wrote on Facebook today:
“Why have we not been shown on our TV any captive, killed or begging to go home Russian soldiers, separatists or terrorists?
Why we are not shown piles of their corpses and destroyed military equipment?
Why don’t captive Russians tell Ukrainian News: Putin makes us go and fight in Ukraine.”?

May be because it is all alleged by official Kiev and Western propaganda.
 
A person with nick name Kozak_Mamai, who positions himself to be a Ukrainian patriot, wrote on Facebook today:
“Why have we not been shown on our TV any captive, killed or begging to go home Russian soldiers, separatists or terrorists?
Why we are not shown piles of their corpses and destroyed military equipment?
Why don’t captive Russians tell Ukrainian News: Putin makes us go and fight in Ukraine.”?

May be because it is all alleged by official Kiev and Western propaganda.
If the Ukrainian army is fighting with scraps and the rebels have all the bullets they need obviously the bullets were not inside the Ukrainian border to begin with.
 
Most of the Ukrainian armament was based in the East, so most of it is in the hands of the rebels.
 
Ukrainian general Viktor Muzhenko is now in conflict with his government, US and most European governments. He claimed that Russia has no soldiers fighting for its side in Ukraine. Besides, he contravenes sanctions regime that was applied against Russia.
If his words are true then he's a hero. If not, he's a traitor. Anyway, his career in modern Ukrainian forces is finished.

Screen-Shot-2015-01-30-at-8.40.26-AM-280x383.png

The Chief of Staff of Ukraine’s Armed Forces, General Viktor Muzhenko, is saying, in that news-report, which is dated on Thursday January 29th, that the only Russian citizens who are fighting in the contested region, are residents in that region, or of Ukraine, and also some Russian citizens (and this does not deny that perhaps some of other countries’ citizens are fighting there, inasmuch as "American mercenaries have already been noted to have been participating on the Ukrainian Government’s side"), who “are members of illegal armed groups,” meaning fighters who are not paid by any government, but instead are just “individual citizens” (as opposed to foreign-government-paid ones). General Muzhenko also says, emphatically, that the “Ukrainian army is not fighting with the regular units of the Russian army.”

Information Clearing House - ICH
Former inspector general of the German army and chair of the NATO military council, Harald Kujat agrees with Muzhenko.:)
In a talk show on German television hosted by Gunther Jauch, Kujat described it as “idiotic” for the West to consider a military solution: if Russia wanted, it could end the war within 48 hours by sending regular troops in to Ukraine. The other guests on the show including Martin Shulz, President of the European Parliament, kept talking about "Russian aggression".

General Kujat doesn't buy it. Here's what he said:

  • It's lot of speculation. Proof of Russia's involvement with regular force has not come to my attention so far.
  • For example, the announcement of the Ukrainian President that 23 Russian armed vehicles have been destroyed on Ukrainian soil. There are no photos of surviving Russian soldiers nor of killed Russian soldiers.
  • We have been shown five satellite pictures as a proof that Russian Forces are in the Ukraine. Three of them were marked officially as "on Russian territory". Two of them are marked as "on Ukraine territory". The Russian pictures are marked with the exact location, while the Ukrainian ones have no mention of location and coordinates.
  • We have to be very careful about what the Ukraine and the West says.
Choose any link you want:

Ex-general NATO has failed blatantly in Ukraine Europe DW.DE 03.09.2014
Top German General Western Evidence of Russian Invasion is Baloney - Russia Insider
(video)
German media backs confrontation with Russia over Ukraine - World Socialist Web Site
 

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