JimofPennsylvan
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The Ukrainian government is committing a Mont Blanc size mistake in prosecuting this Russian POW for a war crime. Have you Madame Chief prosecutor of Ukraine lost your mind. Your country is in a war with a murderous amoral dictator in Vladimir Putin; he has an overwhelming track record of being revengeful to people that behave as his enemy, look how many of his Russian political enemies end up in jail Even in the current war with the million plus Ukrainians forced to resettle in Russia do you think they are going to nice homes in Russia with nice Russian jobs largely they are going to be used like slave labor many incurring abuse and their children inferiorly educated and trained so they don't challenge Russian authority because in Putin's eyes these Ukrainians must pay for the Ukrainian people not submitting to Russian government authority.
As a result of the Ukranian government prosecuting Russian POWs for war crimes; you will move Vladimir Putin to prosecute Ukrainian POW's for trumped up war crimes. Moreover, you will put President Putin in an ornery state toward Ukrainian POWs Vladimir could let it be known that he wants the Russian military to hold back on or slow walk giving Ukrainian wounded and sick POWs needed medical care. Plus, these prosecutions of Russian POWs will be used as a propaganda tool by the Putin regime, the Russian government will use these facts to justify to the Russian people its rationale for the war which is in part to protect Russian speaking people in Ukraine from mistreatment from authorities in Ukraine in this unjust prosecutions by Ukrainian authorities.
What is this Ukranian Prosecutor General thinking? I am around sixty years old and I have never in my life heard of a good and major sovereign country prosecuting POWs of another sovereign country for war crimes. It is an outstanding foolish precedent the Ukrainian government is setting here because in a war innocent civilians get killed weapons today are so lethal and powerful and soldiers make mistakes in identifying the enemy so innocent civilians unfortunately become casualties, it is a bad and gigantic mistake to set a standard where soldiers can be tried for war crimes by one side for civilian deaths on their side that occurred during the war; it will obstruct peace and sow hatred and violence! Moreover, the case the Prosecutor General chose to bring is a bad case to initially bring in light of the egregious crimes committed against Ukrainians during this war; there is thousands of cases of Ukrainian civilians being shot fleeing Russian Army occupied areas or areas under Russian army assault; in fact, you have many cases where Russian soldiers actually told Ukrainian civilians that if you try to flee this area we will shoot you, clearly criminal behavior. The case planning to be brought involved a twenty-one year old Russian soldier whose squad was separated from his unit so they stole a car and were riding in the car trying to get back to their unit when they see a Ukrainian civilian on a bike and the soldier is told to shoot the civilian by another member of his squad because the civilian might give away their position so the Russian soldier shoots and kills the civilian. Yes it was murder the soldier had no reason to believe the civilian was acting as a look out for the Ukrainian army, but you have a twenty-one year old likely in extreme fear for his and his friends lives in the fog of war you don't know if this bike rider will help your enemy a court cannot conclude it was premeditated, it wasn't a heinous war crime like the Ukrainian people have experienced in the tens of thousand of cases during this war at the hands of the Russian military.
Of course, the Ukrainian people deserve to have an abundance of these Russian perpetrators to be held criminally liable for their war crimes during this war. Not only that the world needs it because the world needs to create a deterrent against this barbaric criminal behavior seen from the Russians during this war so it is never repeated in the future by any country especially one run by an immoral authoritarian government. It should be considered that a lot of the Russian perpetrators of these war crimes were killed during the war so many of the crimes the world knows about, prosecution is not warranted for said reason. Regardless one way this whole war crimes matter could be handled is that when the final negotiations take place to end the war and the negotiations take place to lift the sanctions against Russia a deal can be reached where the Russian government will agree to extradite over time as needed up to two to three hundred Russian soldiers or military officials to the Hague to stand trial for war crimes. Further, it could be agreed to at that time by an abundance of countries throughout the world to temporarily dramatically expand the resources available to the Hague so they could prosecute the surge in war crime cases needed to be prosecuted from the Ukrainian/Russian war!
As a result of the Ukranian government prosecuting Russian POWs for war crimes; you will move Vladimir Putin to prosecute Ukrainian POW's for trumped up war crimes. Moreover, you will put President Putin in an ornery state toward Ukrainian POWs Vladimir could let it be known that he wants the Russian military to hold back on or slow walk giving Ukrainian wounded and sick POWs needed medical care. Plus, these prosecutions of Russian POWs will be used as a propaganda tool by the Putin regime, the Russian government will use these facts to justify to the Russian people its rationale for the war which is in part to protect Russian speaking people in Ukraine from mistreatment from authorities in Ukraine in this unjust prosecutions by Ukrainian authorities.
What is this Ukranian Prosecutor General thinking? I am around sixty years old and I have never in my life heard of a good and major sovereign country prosecuting POWs of another sovereign country for war crimes. It is an outstanding foolish precedent the Ukrainian government is setting here because in a war innocent civilians get killed weapons today are so lethal and powerful and soldiers make mistakes in identifying the enemy so innocent civilians unfortunately become casualties, it is a bad and gigantic mistake to set a standard where soldiers can be tried for war crimes by one side for civilian deaths on their side that occurred during the war; it will obstruct peace and sow hatred and violence! Moreover, the case the Prosecutor General chose to bring is a bad case to initially bring in light of the egregious crimes committed against Ukrainians during this war; there is thousands of cases of Ukrainian civilians being shot fleeing Russian Army occupied areas or areas under Russian army assault; in fact, you have many cases where Russian soldiers actually told Ukrainian civilians that if you try to flee this area we will shoot you, clearly criminal behavior. The case planning to be brought involved a twenty-one year old Russian soldier whose squad was separated from his unit so they stole a car and were riding in the car trying to get back to their unit when they see a Ukrainian civilian on a bike and the soldier is told to shoot the civilian by another member of his squad because the civilian might give away their position so the Russian soldier shoots and kills the civilian. Yes it was murder the soldier had no reason to believe the civilian was acting as a look out for the Ukrainian army, but you have a twenty-one year old likely in extreme fear for his and his friends lives in the fog of war you don't know if this bike rider will help your enemy a court cannot conclude it was premeditated, it wasn't a heinous war crime like the Ukrainian people have experienced in the tens of thousand of cases during this war at the hands of the Russian military.
Of course, the Ukrainian people deserve to have an abundance of these Russian perpetrators to be held criminally liable for their war crimes during this war. Not only that the world needs it because the world needs to create a deterrent against this barbaric criminal behavior seen from the Russians during this war so it is never repeated in the future by any country especially one run by an immoral authoritarian government. It should be considered that a lot of the Russian perpetrators of these war crimes were killed during the war so many of the crimes the world knows about, prosecution is not warranted for said reason. Regardless one way this whole war crimes matter could be handled is that when the final negotiations take place to end the war and the negotiations take place to lift the sanctions against Russia a deal can be reached where the Russian government will agree to extradite over time as needed up to two to three hundred Russian soldiers or military officials to the Hague to stand trial for war crimes. Further, it could be agreed to at that time by an abundance of countries throughout the world to temporarily dramatically expand the resources available to the Hague so they could prosecute the surge in war crime cases needed to be prosecuted from the Ukrainian/Russian war!
