Uh oh!

[Care4all]

If this were a Democrat Senator... those on the right would be calling him a traitor.... a cut and runner, someone who is just saying this for political fotter!

GOP Senator Says Iraq Plan Not Working


Jun 25, 11:13 PM (ET)

By ANNE FLAHERTY

WASHINGTON (AP) - Sen. Richard Lugar, a senior Republican and a reliable vote for President Bush on the war, said Monday that Bush's Iraq strategy was not working and that the U.S. should downsize the military's role.

The unusually blunt assessment deals a political blow to Bush, who has relied heavily on GOP support to stave off anti-war legislation.

It also comes as a surprise. Most Republicans have said they were willing to wait until September to see if Bush's recently ordered troop buildup in Iraq was working.

"In my judgment, the costs and risks of continuing down the current path outweigh the potential benefits that might be achieved," Lugar, R-Ind., said in a Senate floor speech. "Persisting indefinitely with the surge strategy will delay policy adjustments that have a better chance of protecting our vital interests over the long term."

Only a few Republicans have broken ranks and called for a change in course or embraced Democratic proposals ordering troops home by a certain date. As the top Republican and former chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Lugar's critique could provide political cover for more Republicans wanting to challenge Bush on the war.

Lugar's spokesman Andy Fisher said the senator wanted to express his concerns publicly before Bush reviews his Iraq strategy in September.

"They've known his position on this for quite a while," Fisher said of the White House.

However, Fisher said the speech does not mean Lugar would switch his vote on the war or embrace Democratic measures setting a deadline for troop withdrawals.

In January, Lugar voted against a resolution opposing the troop buildup, contending that the nonbinding measure would have no practical effect. In spring, he voted against a Democratic bill that would have triggered troop withdrawals by Oct. 1 with the goal of completing the pull out in six months.

Next month, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., plans to force votes on several anti-war proposals as amendments to a 2008 defense policy bill. Members will decide whether to cut off money for combat, demand troop withdrawals start in four months, restrict the length of combat tours and rescind Congress' 2002 authorization of Iraqi invasion.

Expected to fall short of the 60 votes needed in the Senate to pass controversial legislation, the proposals are intended to increase pressure on Bush and play up to voters frustrated with the war.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

UH OH, he doesn't plan to change his vote. So much for cut and run....

 

[Annie]

If this were a Democrat Senator... those on the right would be calling him a traitor.... a cut and runner, someone who is just saying this for political fotter!

Lugar has been at it for awhile, though he just criticizes, doesn't change much. This is what cut and run looks like. Links at site:

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/018047.php

Next Up: U.S. Out of Afghanistan!

The Hill reports on the growing number of Congressional Democrats who are willing to say out loud that they want to abandon Afghanistan to the terrorists:

When they won control of Congress in November, Democrats pressed their case to withdraw troops from Iraq and refocus on Afghanistan, but some are growing impatient with U.S. operations in Afghanistan as well.

A few congressional Democrats go so far as suggesting that the Pentagon should pull out of Afghanistan now, while others say that troop withdrawal will be addressed after the military is out of Iraq.
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Meanwhile, Strategy Page headlines: "Taliban Admits Defeat":

The Taliban has admitted defeat, in their own unique way. In recent media interviews, Taliban spokesmen announced a shift in emphasis to suicide bombings. The Taliban also admitted that the Americans had infiltrated their high command, which led to the death or capture of several senior Taliban officials, and the capture of many lower ranking ones as well. There have also been some prominent defections recently, which the Taliban spokesmen did not want to talk about.​

So the Democrats may be just in time to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Posted by John at 08:06 AM

 

[Care4all]

Lugar has been at it for awhile, though he just criticizes, doesn't change much. This is what cut and run looks like. Links at site:

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/018047.php

What I don't understand Kathianne is how the republicans so EASILY report to the Taliban that some of their felow Americans want America to lose?

What I don't understand is why the republicans so easily report to the media that the Democrats, their fellow Americans, want the troops to surrender, therefore indirectly telling the troops and Alqaeda that the Democrats are the enemy....? And telling the troops that they are failures because they will be redeployed as the Republicans do, everytime they want to EXPLOIT their "enemy" the Democrats, while not giving two hoots about what they are doing to the troops moral?

That the troops are yellow bellies because they will be redeployed by congress's majority?

Everytime someone from the right calls their fellow Americans, "Cut and Runners" or says, "the Democrats want us to Surrender to the Enemy", the REPUBLICANS are HURTING OUR TROOPS, by showing them that they do not care about our Democratic Republic, they don't care about their fellow Americans opinions or concerns UNLESS they walk lock step with their "thinking".

And Sadly, this vicious talk coming from the Republicans and exploited by them for POLITICAL POSTURING AND GAIN ONLY, is hurting our troops more than the enemy themselves, because they are showing every chance they can get that they HATE their feloow Americans that differ and showing the troops pure rhetoric and devisiveness, imo.

Care

 

[RetiredGySgt]

What I don't understand Kathianne is how the republicans so EASILY report to the Taliban that some of their felow Americans want America to lose?

What I don't understand is why the republicans so easily report to the media that the Democrats, their fellow Americans, want the troops to surrender, therefore indirectly telling the troops and Alqaeda that the Democrats are the enemy....? And telling the troops that they are failures because they will be redeployed as the Republicans do, everytime they want to EXPLOIT their "enemy" the Democrats, while not giving two hoots about what they are doing to the troops moral?

That the troops are yellow bellies because they will be redeployed by congress's majority?

Everytime someone from the right calls their fellow Americans, "Cut and Runners" or says, "the Democrats want us to Surrender to the Enemy", the REPUBLICANS are HURTING OUR TROOPS, by showing them that they do not care about our Democratic Republic, they don't care about their fellow Americans opinions or concerns UNLESS they walk lock step with their "thinking".

And Sadly, this vicious talk coming from the Republicans and exploited by them for POLITICAL POSTURING AND GAIN ONLY, is hurting our troops more than the enemy themselves, because they are showing every chance they can get that they HATE their feloow Americans that differ and showing the troops pure rhetoric and devisiveness, imo.

Care

What a partisan load of BULLSHIT. Let me see if I have it right.... You can bitch and moan and complain all you want and its your right, your just trying to help. But if republicans point out your antics THAT is bad. That about sum it up?

 

[Annie]

What I don't understand Kathianne is how the republicans so EASILY report to the Taliban that some of their felow Americans want America to lose?

What I don't understand is why the republicans so easily report to the media that the Democrats, their fellow Americans, want the troops to surrender, therefore indirectly telling the troops and Alqaeda that the Democrats are the enemy....? And telling the troops that they are failures because they will be redeployed as the Republicans do, everytime they want to EXPLOIT their "enemy" the Democrats, while not giving two hoots about what they are doing to the troops moral?

That the troops are yellow bellies because they will be redeployed by congress's majority?

Everytime someone from the right calls their fellow Americans, "Cut and Runners" or says, "the Democrats want us to Surrender to the Enemy", the REPUBLICANS are HURTING OUR TROOPS, by showing them that they do not care about our Democratic Republic, they don't care about their fellow Americans opinions or concerns UNLESS they walk lock step with their "thinking".

And Sadly, this vicious talk coming from the Republicans and exploited by them for POLITICAL POSTURING AND GAIN ONLY, is hurting our troops more than the enemy themselves, because they are showing every chance they can get that they HATE their feloow Americans that differ and showing the troops pure rhetoric and devisiveness, imo.

Care

Yep, those damn Islamic extremists don't know about CNN, BBC, Al Reuters, Al Jazeera, and AP.