U.K. Parliament Holds Joe Biden* In Contempt Over Afghanistan

[beagle9]

What is needed in our military command structure is a Commander in Chief that recognizes the inadequacies of politicians and executives to intelligently use the military forces to win a war.

Our Presidents have hamstrung the military in many of our past endeavors by arbitrarily limiting the rules of engagement to suit their political strategies. Vietnam is the prime example of that. LBJ was the epitome of a pitiful Commander in Chief. He presided over the war years when at least 36,756 of how soldiers were killed (of 58,220 recorded)

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Nixon was only a bit better with 21,195 deaths recorded under his command.

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Together, these two ran the war during the times when 99.54% of our US soldier deaths were recorded.


The war was halted in a stalemate under Ford.

Vietnam War U.S. Military Fatal Casualty Statistics

Electronic Records Reference Report Introduction The following tables were generated from the Vietnam Conflict Extract Data File of the Defense Casualty Analysis System (DCAS) Extract Files, which is current as of April 29, 2008. The Vietnam Conflict Extract Data File of the Defense Casualty...

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When you go to war with an opposing army, you do what you can to WIN THE WAR and go home in peace. That requires leaving the military decisions to the field officers and not orchestrating the war from the Oval Office.

I also look at your stats from an upward trend starting in 1964, going all the way to a peak death score in 1968, to it spiraling downward once Nixon took office on up until 1974 correct ? Did Nixon reverse the death rates from 1968 onward, otherwise while in office due to his listening to the commander's by letting them do their Jobs better ?? Interesting work you submitted. Good job. Nixon messed up by not bombing the North into submission when it was called for.

We won't get away with doing what we keep doing in these nation's much longer.
Otherwise by building up a supposed democracy amongst some, and then giving them a taste of what freedom is, and then abandoning them to the wolves who come back in to slaughter them either openly or in secret.

 

[harmonica]

westwall that's what the Russians said --and the Brits .... unwinnable--like Vietnam

 

[harmonica]

westwall !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
900 BILLION$$

and that's NOT a time and $$ investment?????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[jknowgood]

I'm sorry you are sad the war ended. You are free to go fight the Taliban yourself anytime, snowflake.

Glad we aren't fighting there anymore, but Biden wasn't smart enough to get our civilians out first.

 

[jknowgood]

Maybe someone should have those Brits brush up on their own history with that hell hole...Anglo-Afghan Wars | History, Significance, & Facts

Awe when Trump was president you loons worried about what the British thought about us.

 

[asaratis]

Well when he sat through that (what ever it was), and talked about wokeness, and talked about white rage, they should have canned his ace shortly after.

Do you expect any Democrat Party administration to ever can a candyass, WOKE, asshole Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff?

 

[danielpalos]

he United Kingdom’s Houses of Parliament has officially voted to hold Joe Biden in contempt over his disastrous handling of the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan.

As noted by The U.K. Telegraph, Biden’s handling of the Afghanistan withdrawal was condemned as “catastrophic” and “shameful” by the Brits, which are strong allies to the U.S.

“MPs and peers from across the political spectrum, including Boris Johnson, put some blame for the Taliban’s takeover and the chaos that followed on Britain’s closest ally. Mr. Biden was accused of “throwing us and everybody else to the fire” by pulling out US troops and was called “dishonorable” for criticizing Afghan forces for not having the will to fight,” the outlet reported.

“Former defense chiefs who led British troops in the Middle East were among those to speak out, while there were warnings that the West’s withdrawal would embolden Russia and China. The interventions mark a deterioration in UK-US relations almost exactly 20 years after Britain joined America in invading Afghanistan to root out terrorism after the September 11 attacks,” the outlet added.

U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson also took a not-so-subtle swipe at the U.S.

“The West could not continue this US-led mission – a mission conceived and executed in support and defense of America – without American logistics, without US airpower, and without American might,” he said.

Labour Leader Keir Starmer said: “The US is, of course, an important ally, but to overlook the fighting of the Afghan troops and forces, and the fact that they have been at the forefront of that fighting in recent years, is wrong.”

Labour MP Chris Bryant slammed Biden for claiming that Afghan soldiers ran away and refused to fight the Taliban.

Bryant called Biden’s remarks “some of the most shameful comments ever from an American president.”

Former Defense Minister Khalid Mahmood said: “The Biden government have just come in and, without looking at what is happening on the ground, have taken a unilateral decision, throwing us and everybody else to the fire.”

Former Tory leader Lord Howard said Biden’s decision “is, and will be seen by history as, a catastrophic mistake which may well prove to be the defining legacy of his presidency.”

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Parliament holds Joe Biden in contempt over Afghanistan

MPs and peers unite to condemn ‘dishonour’ of US president’s withdrawal and his criticism of Afghan troops left behind to face Taliban

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An overreaction? The Artist of the Deal bragged about how He made a deal the subsequent administration could not change or get out of.

 

[asaratis]

An overreaction? The Artist of the Deal bragged about how He made a deal the subsequent administration could not change or get out of.

...but the asshole Joe Robinette Biden did change it.

 

[danielpalos]

...but the asshole Joe Robinette Biden did change it.

He couldn't change it enough to make a more positive difference thanks to Your guy.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Biden is the most retarded, Alzheimer ridden useless fuckwit in American politics, and he's in the White House. America has one hell of a sense of humour. I have never witnessed such a bumbling, brain dead, gob waffling fool as Biden.

Boris Johnson.

 

[danielpalos]

Your guy claimed He made the deal.

 

[beagle9]

Your guy claimed He made the deal.

Matters not what deal was made, because you all crapped our guy out of the situation, so it will never be known how the executing of the plan would have looked like by his administration.

So that leaves the current lot, and so far they have proven to be idiot's in the situation. Career politician's are the worse, and it raises it's ugly head again.

When does a nation learn, and correct itself ??? The more we move forward, the stupider we get. It's shameful the current lot we have in government position's in this administration.

 

[ClaireH]

What is shameful is that our own Congress won't condemn or impeach the idiot.

Likely a few strong Republican and Democrat hold outs on the hill who don’t really support Biden at all but definitely don’t want Harris to hold that spot. She’d be way worse judging by her associates and words.

 

[danielpalos]

Matters not what deal was made, because you all crapped our guy out of the situation, so it will never be known how the executing of the plan would have looked like by his administration.

So that leaves the current lot, and so far they have proven to be idiot's in the situation. Career politician's are the worse, and it raises it's ugly head again.

When does a nation learn, and correct itself ??? The more we move forward, the stupider we get. It's shameful the current lot we have in government position's in this administration.

What is your opinion of any fixed Standard deemed necessary and proper by a commanding general staff; being that privilege and immunity?

 

[beagle9]

What is your opinion of any fixed Standard deemed necessary, and proper by a commanding general staff; being that of privilege and of immunity?

Put that in layman's terms please. Tried to follow, but not sure if I got the jest of the wording exactly right. Would the part read better at the end if it said " being that of privilege, and that of immunity" like I added above ???

If this is correct, then the general staff should have a standard that reads "protect American asset's whether human or material at all cost". Leave no man behind. Fight to win. Secure the situation. Leave with dignity intact.

 

[danielpalos]

Put that in layman's terms please. Tried to follow, but not sure if I got the jest of the wording exactly right. Would the part read better at the end if it said " being that of privilege, and that of immunity" like I added above ???

If this is correct, then the general staff should have a standard that reads "protect American asset's whether human or material at all cost". Leave no man behind. Fight to win. Secure the situation. Leave with dignity intact.

That a commanding general staff have a general plan for any strategy that cannot be micromanaged by the Legislative branch once it is effected as policy public. A privilege and immunity that Congress has any right to Inquire, afterward.

 

[fncceo]

Did the Brits condemn themselves when they failed in Afghanistan?

Which of the three times?

 

[beagle9]

That a commanding general staff have a general plan for any strategy that cannot be micromanaged by the Legislative branch once it is effected as policy public. A privilege and immunity that Congress has any right to Inquire, afterward.

Ummm providing that the general staff aren't full of idiot's maybe ?? These days who knows anymore.

 

[danielpalos]

Ummm providing that the general staff aren't full of idiot's maybe ?? These days who knows anymore.

It doesn't matter; the point is that those privileges and immunities are for subject matter specialists tasked with certain commands.

 

[asaratis]

Your guy claimed He made the deal.

He did...with conditions.

Biden ignored the conditions and abandoned TENS OF THOUSANDS OF US CITIZENS and Afghan interpreters behind enemy lines.

Screw "your guy"!