Typical Dem - Harps about Gas Guzzlers - leaves in SUV

[-Cp]

Obama Warns of Gas Guzzling Cars in Town Hall Meeting
Tue Aug 15 2006 2108 ET

Illinois Senator Barack Obama warns citizens at his 50th Town Hall meeting about gas guzzling, WPSD-TV reports.

It was among many points made to the standing room only audience at the Metropolis Community Center. Obama spoke on everything from DC politics to global warming.

He says part of the blame for the world's higher temperatures rests on gas guzzling vehicles. Obama says consumers can make the difference by switching to higher mileage hybrids.

Today the Senator said, "It would save more energy, do more for the environment and create better world security than all the drilling we could do in Alaska."

"After the meeting... Obama left in a GMC Envoy after admitting to favoring SUV's himself," claimed local News Channel 6.

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Tommy Vietor, Senator Obama's press secretary, explains: "What Senator Obama has long advocated is the use of vehicles that are more fuel efficient, including but not exclusively hybrids.

"The vehicle senator obama travels in while in illinois is a Flexible Fuel Vehicle (FFV), which can run on e85, a blended fuel made of 85 percent ethanol.

"So he in fact was practicing what he preached at the town hall meeting in Metropolis yesterday when he said we must drive fewer gas-guzzling vehicles."

But it does not appear that GMC's Envoy is E85 ready.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3.htm

 

[CharlestonChad]

Looks like no politician practices what they preach. But in their defense, I would imagine that someone of such importance would ride in an armored vehicle, which are almost soley large SUV's.

 

[red states rule]

Looks like no politician practices what they preach. But in their defense, I would imagine that someone of such importance would ride in an armored vehicle, which are almost soley large SUV's.

Barack Osama is a typical "do as I say and not as I do" liberal

He will play the race card like McKinney soon.

 

[-Cp]

Looks like no politician practices what they preach. But in their defense, I would imagine that someone of such importance would ride in an armored vehicle, which are almost soley large SUV's.

Sorry - but senator's don't ride around in armored vehicles all the time.... by his own admission, he favor's SUV's..... Instead of toeing your party line, just admit that he's a hypocrite...

 

[Avatar4321]

Yeah global warming is such a problem. which is why the worlds tempatures were hotter 70 years ago then today.

Im tired of these red herring political issues. The reason Democrats favor "global warming" Because regardless what happens they can still claim its a problem. If it gets warmer its global warming. If it gets colder then wow global warming is causing the next ice age.

Its just an excuse to attack capitalism in favor of communist idealogy.

 

[red states rule]

Yeah global warming is such a problem. which is why the worlds tempatures were hotter 70 years ago then today.

Im tired of these red herring political issues. The reason Democrats favor "global warming" Because regardless what happens they can still claim its a problem. If it gets warmer its global warming. If it gets colder then wow global warming is causing the next ice age.

Its just an excuse to attack capitalism in favor of communist idealogy.

I saw RFK Jr on Fox talking to Hannity. RFK Jr actually said global warming will cause the next ice age.

Hannity nailed him when he would not answer if he travels in a private limo and fly around the world on a private jet

 

[CharlestonChad]

I saw RFK Jr on Fox talking to Hannity. RFK Jr actually said global warming will cause the next ice age.

Hannity nailed him when he would not answer if he travels in a private limo and fly around the world on a private jet

So Hannity is only able to attack the messanger and not the message.

 

[CharlestonChad]

Yeah global warming is such a problem. which is why the worlds tempatures were hotter 70 years ago then today.

Im tired of these red herring political issues. The reason Democrats favor "global warming" Because regardless what happens they can still claim its a problem. If it gets warmer its global warming. If it gets colder then wow global warming is causing the next ice age.

Its just an excuse to attack capitalism in favor of communist idealogy.

I assume you're referring to atmospheric temperatures.

The only temperatures we should worry about are in the oceans. Specifically the currents that carrry warm water from the equator regions to Europe. As we melt down our glaciers, the warm water currents will not carry the heated water as far north, causing major drops in temperature all over the globe.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8398
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1602579,00.html

 

[red states rule]

So Hannity is only able to attack the messanger and not the message.

RFK Jr is another enviromental wacko kook. Hannity called him on it.

Global WARMING will cause the next ICE age?

Antartica is getting warmer - kinda blows the kook talking pints all to hell

 

[CharlestonChad]

RFK Jr is another enviromental wacko kook. Hannity called him on it.

Global WARMING will cause the next ICE age?

Antartica is getting warmer - kinda blows the kook talking pints all to hell

Please educate yourself on how an ice age is caused, before making assumptions based on "common sense".

I'll give you a summary:

Hole in ozone leads to increased temps trapped under greenhouse effect. Air heats up and we all sweat a little more. Ice melts and cools down ocean. Currents carrying warm water to countries like great Britain are blocked by colder water. Great Britain cannot warm up like it used to. Temps fall on average of 10 degrees world wide, meaning that some areas are not affected that much, which others become uninhabitable.

 

[red states rule]

Please educate yourself on how an ice age is caused, before making assumptions based on "common sense".

I'll give you a summary:

Hole in ozone leads to increased temps trapped under greenhouse effect. Air heats up and we all sweat a little more. Ice melts and cools down ocean. Currents carrying warm water to countries like great Britain are blocked by colder water. Great Britain cannot warm up like it used to. Temps fall on average of 10 degrees world wide, meaning that some areas are not affected that much, which others become uninhabitable.

So if I uderstand you...... the same people who, during the winter season, cannot tell me how much snow my area will get during the next 24 hours; are able to tell me what the weather will be like in 50 years?

 

[CharlestonChad]

So if I uderstand you...... the same people who, during the winter season, cannot tell me how much snow my area will get during the next 24 hours; are able to tell me what the weather will be like in 50 years?

It's easier to master general biology than molecularbiology.

 

[red states rule]

It is much easier to see the enviromemental wackos are full of crap

 

[theHawk]

Can any liberal explain to me how a democrat prez is going to change the world weather?

 

[jillian]

Can any liberal explain to me how a democrat prez is going to change the world weather?

How about by seriously addressing our use of fossil fuels and pursuing enviro-friendly (not insane, just enviro-friendly) policies and NOT by having energy policy written by people who come from the automotive and logging industries for a start.

 

[red states rule]

How about by seriously addressing our use of fossil fuels and pursuing enviro-friendly (not insane, just enviro-friendly) policies and NOT by having energy policy written by people who come from the automotive and logging industries for a start.

Who would you like to write energy policy? People in the industry who know what is going on. or the enviro wackos who want all us (not them however) to ride around in golf carts with bucket seats?

 

[jillian]

Who would you like to write energy policy? People in the industry who know what is going on. or the enviro wackos who want all us (not them however) to ride around in golf carts with bucket seats?

No...they aren't "people in the industry who know what's going on". They are people with a vested interest in NOT pursuing sane energy policies. Why do you assume having extremists on either side would be the only choice?

How about someone more like this?

http://www.medaloffreedom.com/RussellTrain.htm

http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2004/10/10_207.html

And before you call him a "lib" or an "enviro wacko"... this gentleman served under REPUBLICAN presidents, starting with Nixon, and left the Repubican party only BECAUSE of Bush's policies.

Read and learn, dear.

 

[red states rule]

Sweet cheeks, you can learn a few things as well

Libs are in a panic over another manufactured crisis

http://www.americanpolicy.org/un/thereisnoglobal.htm
There is No Global Warming
There is no global warming. Period.

You can't find a real scientist anywhere in the world who can look you in the eye and, without hesitation, without clarification, without saying, kinda, mighta, sorta, if, and or but...say "yes, global warming is with us."

There is no evidence whatsoever to support such claims. Anyone who tells you that scientific research shows warming trends - be they teachers, news casters, Congressmen, Senators, Vice Presidents or Presidents - is wrong. There is no global warming.

Scientific research through U.S. Government satellite and balloon measurements shows that the temperature is actually cooling - very slightly - .037 degrees Celsius.

A little research into modern-day temperature trends bears this out. For example, in 1936 the Midwest of the United States experienced 49 consecutive days of temperatures over 90 degrees. There were another 49 consecutive days in 1955. But in 1992 there was only one day over 90 degrees and in 1997 only 5 days.

Because of modern science and improved equipment, this "cooling" trend has been most accurately documented over the past 18 years. Ironically, that's the same period of time the hysteria has grown over dire warnings of "warming."

Changes in global temperatures are natural. There is no proof that temperature is affected by anything that man has done.

In fact, recent severe weather has been directly attributed to a natural phenomenon that occurs every so often called El Nino. It causes ocean temperatures to rise as tropical trade winds actually reverse for a time.

The resulting temperature changes cause severe storms, flooding and even draught on every continent on earth.

It's completely natural. El Nino has been wreaking its havoc across the globe since long before man appeared.

How about the reports that the polar ice cap is melting?

Well, yes it is. In fact, it has been for about a million years or so. We are at the end of the ice age in which ice covered most of North American and Northern Europe.

There's at least one environmentalist, named Al Gore, who is panicking over the possibility that we may soon lose Glacier National Park in Montana because the ice is melting.

One hates to tell him that we've already lost the glacier that used to cover the whole country.

Perhaps he'll want to start working for new regulations from the Interior Department to begin immediately restoring this lost historical environmental treasure. Re-establishing a sheet of ice covering the entire continent would certainly serve to stop mining, timber cutting and urban sprawl.

The truth is, someday humans may be able to take tropical vacations at the North Pole - and it will be perfectly natural.

Yet our world is being flooded with the dire predictions of Global Warming.

We are being warned of killer heat waves, vast flooding and the spread of tropical diseases. Ocean levels are rising, they say. America's coast lines are doomed, they tell us. Hurricanes and tornadoes have already become more violent, we are warned. Floods and droughts have begun to ravage the nation, they cry.

Any change in temperatures, or an excessive storm or extended flooding is looked upon as a sure sign that environmental Armageddon is upon us. Diabolical environmentalists are using the natural El Nino phenomenon to whip people into a Global Warming hysteria.

TWO KINDS OF SCIENTISTS

We are assured by the White House that scientists everywhere are sounding these warmings and that we may only have one chance to stop it.

Well, as the debate rages, we find that there really are two kinds of "scientists."

There are those who look at facts and make their judgements based on what they know.

Their findings can be matched by any other scientist, using the same data and set of circumstances to reach the same conclusions. It's a age-old practice called peer reviewing. It's the only true science.

And then there are those who yearn for a certain outcome and set about creating the needed data to make it so. Usually you will find this group of scientists greatly dependent on grants supplied by those with a specific political agenda who demand desired outcomes for their money.

Let's just take NASA, for example - the most trusted name in American science.

A lot of NASA scientists have fallen into this trap. Environmental science has become the life-blood of the space program as the nation has lost interest in space travel. To keep the bucks coming, NASA has justified shuttle trips through the use of earth-directed environmental research. And the budgets keep coming.

At the same time, many of NASA's scientists come with a political agenda in great harmony with those who advocate the green agenda. And they're not above using their position to aid that agenda whenever the chance is available.

This was never more clearly demonstrated than in 1992 when a team of three NASA scientists were monitoring conditions over North America to determine if the Ozone layer was in danger.

Inconclusive data indicated that conditions might be right for ozone damage over North America, if certain things happened.

True scientists are a careful lot. They study, they wait and, many times they test again before drawing conclusions.

Not so, the green zealot. Of this three-member NASA team, two could not be sure of what they had found and wanted to do more research.

But one took the data and rushed to the microphones, with all of the drama of a Hollywood movie, announced in hushed tones that NASA had discovered an Ozone hole over North America.

Then Senator Al Gore rushed to the floor of the Senate with the news and drove a stampede to immediately ban freon - five years before Congress had intended - and without a suitable substitute. He then bullied President George Bush to sign the legislation by saying the Ozone hole was over Kennebunkport - Bush's vacation home.

Two months later NASA announced, on the back pages of the newspapers, that further research had shown that there was no such damage. But it was too late. Remember that when you have to buy a new air conditioner or refrigerator for no reason other than your freon has run out of the old one.

FLAWED COMPUTER MODELS

Then there are those computer models. Night after night Americans watch the local news as the weatherman predicts what kind of a day tomorrow will be. These meteorologists, using the most up-to-date equipment available, boldly give you the five-day forecast.

But it's well known that, even with all of their research and expensive equipment, it really is just a "best guess." There are just too many variables. If the wind picks up here it could blow in a storm, if the temperature drops here it could start to snow. The earth is a vast and wondrous place. Weather does what it wants.

Yet those who are promoting the global-warming theory have the audacity to tell you they can forecast changes in the global climate decades into the future.

The truth is computer models are able to include only two out of 14 components that make up the climate system. To include the third component would take a computer a thousand times faster than we now have. To go beyond the third component requires an increase in computer power that is so large only mathematicians can comprehend the numbers.

Moreover, even if the computer power existed, scientists do not understand all the factors and the relationships between them that determine the global climate.

So it's an outrage for Al Gore, Bill Clinton and the Sierra Club to tell you that Global Warming is a fact and that we Americans must now suffer dire changes in our lifestyle to stop it.

 

[jillian]

And who's funding the "American Policy Center"?

Like any site you've ever linked has been credible. RAFLMAO!

 

[red states rule]

Hey Jilly, the truth is the truth no matter where it comes from.

Facts to a lib is like Holy Water to the Devil