Two Ways to Help Stop Mass Shootings

[Blues Man]

It's what mass shooters usually use to kill people.

The VA tech shooter used 2 hand guns are those "assault " rifles too?

 

[Blues Man]

It would appear some people think their 2nd Amendment rights are more important than children’s lives.

It would appear some people think that banning people who would never commit a school shooting from having a particular rifle will stop school shootings.

 

[Vagabond63]

/----/ Nope, can't say I found a response to the first question time, after time, after time, blah blah blah.
A woman is grabbed by a violent serial rapist at a bus stop, a train platform or in her apartment...he plans on beating, raping and murdering her. She has a gun, and can stop the rape with the gun......

Do you want her to use that gun to stop the rape?

Then you clearly haven't looked.

 

[Vagabond63]

Over 56 years?

Meanwhile, you Europeans murdered 1,000,000 children in 6 years.........

Among them 1,000,000 were children under eighteen years of age.1 And none of these monstrous figures even include civilian and military combat or war-deaths.

NAZI GENOCIDE AND MASS MURDER

Can you tell which number is bigger?

In 246 years of our existence.....if you add up all the criminal gun murder.....over 246 years.....we don't even come close to the murder of your peoples by your governments in that 6 year period.........and if you stretch the murder to 1933 it goes up to 20 million....

After the Europeans gave up their guns to be safer......

And what keeps those 700,000 gun owners from using their guns to murder children in schools? Please, show us which law keeps that from happening, considering two mass public shootings have happened since the gun ban and confiscation in Britain.......

So you are really trying to equate World War 2 in Europe and one of the most evil Right wing regimes that ever existed with "peacetime" America?

You need to take your meds.

Whether Europeans were all armed to the teeth, they would not have stopped the Nazi war machine. A .38 pistol is of little to no use against a Stuka or artillery, or for that matter, the disproportionate massive reprisals that resulted in any act of resistance to the Nazi occupiers.

 

[Vagabond63]

And what keeps those 700,000 gun owners from using their guns to murder children in schools? Please, show us which law keeps that from happening, considering two mass public shootings have happened since the gun ban and confiscation in Britain..

Seems I need to keep repeating myself again, because it's just not penetrating into your fantasy world. No law in existance has never been broken. The purpose is to minimise the possibility of such events, and in that respect our gun control laws have been very effective. You seem indifferent to children being shot in schools because so "few" have been killed in 56 years, well after Dunblane and 18 dead, we've not had another school shooting since. One was enough for a civilised society, clearly America has a long way to go to achieve a similar level of civlisation, if that's what you people think.

 

[Vagabond63]

Just the fact that a person called the cops because he was offended at a Karaoke song and the police didn't tell the guy to grow up is more proof that you Brits are nothing but whiny children.

They only "whiny children" are the gun crazies that go into a meltdown when adults try to restrict how they can play with their "toys".

 

[Vagabond63]

One thing I've noticed about this 2nd Amendment section is that lots of the posters here are leg humpers who like to gang up on people they don't agree with. I guess they think ganging up on folks will intimidate them and make them change their minds.
Or they like to show out in front of their friends. "Did you see what I told her?" I think Open Mouth Bolt is a show-off. He needs approval from his fellow leg humpers.
Sad to see grown-ups with that childish ignorant mindset.

Usually when someone puts up a valid argument they are unable to refute. You just get a torrent of BS responses that try to deflect from the original argument and loose the valid point in a torrent of manure.

 

[Blues Man]

They only "whiny children" are the gun crazies that go into a meltdown when adults try to restrict how they can play with their "toys".

Once again you flaunt your ignorance of American gun laws.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Then you clearly haven't looked.

/——-/ LOL. You sound like a third grader telling the teacher the dog ate your homework.

 

[Vagabond63]

/——-/ LOL. You sound like a third grader telling the teacher the dog ate your homework.

Like I said, you clearly haven't bothered to look. It's OK, I'll wait. In fact I sound like a colledge professor, mentoring a particularly lazy and/or stupid student.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Like I said, you clearly haven't bothered to look. It's OK, I'll wait. In fact I sound like a colledge professor, mentoring a particularly lazy and/or stupid student.

/——/ BWHAHAHAHA BWHAHAHAHA

 

[2aguy]

So you are really trying to equate World War 2 in Europe and one of the most evil Right wing regimes that ever existed with "peacetime" America?

You need to take your meds.

Whether Europeans were all armed to the teeth, they would not have stopped the Nazi war machine. A .38 pistol is of little to no use against a Stuka or artillery, or for that matter, the disproportionate massive reprisals that resulted in any act of resistance to the Nazi occupiers.

No....just reminding you twits that this actually happened....in modern times...this isn't a medieval warlord sacking a castle.....in a point in European history with modern, democratic institutions, the rule of law, universities, philosophy, science......the governments of Europe murdered 15 million people....in just 6 years........

As to stopping the nazis.....you stop them from beating, and killing their way to power in the first place.....you don't have a situation where the brown shirts, blm and antifa....errrr....I mean, the brown shirts....can beat and murder people who speak against them........when you allow them to beat, burn and loot the businesses and people who oppose them, it keeps others from speaking up or opposing them in the first place, which allows them to take power in the first place....

As to the other countries of Europe....one country wasn't invaded by the socialists in Germany...Switzerland.....

Why?

They had a population that was armed to the teeth, unlike France and the other countries that took guns away from their people after World War 1 to make them safer....

THE SWISS WERE PREPARED TO FIGHT FACISM TO THE BITTER END | FRONTLINE | PBS

That is why the Nazis despised Switzerland. Joseph Goebbels called Switzerland "this stinking little state" where "sentiment has turned very much against us." Adolf Hitler decided that "all the rubbish of small nations still existing in Europe must be liquidated," even if it meant he would later "be attacked as the 'Butcher of the Swiss.'"

The 1940 Nazi invasion plan, Operation Tannenbaum, was not executed, and SS Oberst Hermann Bohme's 1943 memorandum warned that an invasion of Switzerland would be too costly because every man was armed and trained to shoot. This did not stop the Gestapo from preparing lists of Swiss to be liquidated once the Nazis overran the country.

The other European nations were easily toppled and had little means to wage a partisan war against the occupation. Once their standing armies were defeated, the governments capitulated and the populaces were defenseless.

Only in Switzerland was the entire populace armed and prepared to wage a relentless guerrilla war against an invader. When the war began in 1939, Switzerland mobilized 435,000 citizen soldiers out of a population of 4.2 million. Production figures for Swiss service rifles, which had firepower equal to those of the Germans, demonstrate an ample supply of small arms. Swiss militiamen were instructed to disregard any alleged "official" surrender as enemy propaganda and, if necessary, to fight individually. This meant that a nation of sharpshooters would be sniping at German soldiers at long ranges from every mountain.

While neutral, Switzerland was prepared to fight a Nazi invasion to the end. The celebrated Swiss Gen. Henri Guisan developed the strategy known as defense du reduit--an initial opposition followed by a retreat into the Alps, where a relentless war to the death would be waged. Most Swiss strongly opposed Nazism. Death sentences were issued for fifth-column activities, and proclamations against anti-Semitism were passed at various official levels. There was no Holocaust on Swiss soil, something that can not be said for France, the Netherlands, Poland or most of Europe.

 

[2aguy]

Seems I need to keep repeating myself again, because it's just not penetrating into your fantasy world. No law in existance has never been broken. The purpose is to minimise the possibility of such events, and in that respect our gun control laws have been very effective. You seem indifferent to children being shot in schools because so "few" have been killed in 56 years, well after Dunblane and 18 dead, we've not had another school shooting since. One was enough for a civilised society, clearly America has a long way to go to achieve a similar level of civlisation, if that's what you people think.

No.....your gun control laws didn't do any such thing.......you had one school shooting before you banned guns, and the only reason you didn't have two more so far, is the shooters didn't decide to target your schools.....they attacked places in Cumbria and Plymouth....

You didn't have schools shootings before you banned guns and then after, none of your gun laws would stop the next one.....

You live in a country where your nuts haven't decided to target your schools....you should hope that continues...

 

[2aguy]

Usually when someone puts up a valid argument they are unable to refute. You just get a torrent of BS responses that try to deflect from the original argument and loose the valid point in a torrent of manure.

And While we wait.....how about answering these questions....

A woman is grabbed by a violent serial rapist at a bus stop, a train platform or in her apartment...he plans on beating, raping and murdering her. She has a gun, and can stop the rape with the gun......

Do you want her to use that gun to stop the rape?

A woman stops an attack with a gun, a brutal rape, torture and murder...in a public space....if you had the ability to go back in time, and prevent her from having that gun...would you?
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A woman in Britain wants a gun to keep herself from being raped, beaten and murdered.........in her home and on the street....the British government tells her this is not a "good reason" to own a gun, so she doesn't get to have a gun....

A wealthy member of the House of Lords wants to take some of his rich drinking buddies bird hunting on one of his many private estates....he easily gets a gun permit because this is considered a "good reason" to have a gun.

Does this make sense to you....

 

[Cellblock2429]

Seems I need to keep repeating myself again, because it's just not penetrating into your fantasy world. No law in existance has never been broken. The purpose is to minimise the possibility of such events, and in that respect our gun control laws have been very effective. You seem indifferent to children being shot in schools because so "few" have been killed in 56 years, well after Dunblane and 18 dead, we've not had another school shooting since. One was enough for a civilised society, clearly America has a long way to go to achieve a similar level of civlisation, if that's what you people think.

/———/ How many other laws did the school shooters break?

 

[2aguy]

Seems I need to keep repeating myself again, because it's just not penetrating into your fantasy world. No law in existance has never been broken. The purpose is to minimise the possibility of such events, and in that respect our gun control laws have been very effective. You seem indifferent to children being shot in schools because so "few" have been killed in 56 years, well after Dunblane and 18 dead, we've not had another school shooting since. One was enough for a civilised society, clearly America has a long way to go to achieve a similar level of civlisation, if that's what you people think.

Please....enlighten us......you had two mass public shootings after the ban and confiscation....

Cumbria and Plymouth....

Which gun control laws stopped those shooters from walking into a public school and shooting children and teachers?

And the other shootings you have had......the one in Moss Side, the pub drive by shooting.....

What keeps the criminals in your country, with their illegal guns.....from walking into a school and shooting kids and teachers....?

Can you tell us which gun control law in Britain stops them from attacking schools?

 

[PoliticalChic]

And, as far at the parents.....


Kimberly Klacik

@kimKBaltimore

If your 13 year old is out stabbing people, carjacking uber drivers or running around with guns, please know... ...you are a terrible parent. It’s you. It’s not the police. Its not the politicians. It’s not the teachers. It’s you. Just you.

9:47 PM · Apr 22, 2021·Twitter for iPhone







Poor parenting on full display.

"Fatherless Homes Linked to Mental Illness, Mass Shootings: Author Warren Farrell​

Warren Farrell, author of the book “The Boy Crisis: Why Our Boys Are Struggling and What We Can Do About It,” has found that being “dad deprived” is a leading factor in males’ increased mental illness, addiction, and suicide.

He links the mass shootings in 53 developed countries to boys and men who lacked a father figure, and he specifically mentioned six mass shootings that have occurred in the United States in the 21st century.

“All six of those mass school shootings that have killed more than 10 people have been done by boys, and all six of them have been done by boys who have been ‘dad deprived,’ from Sandy Hook right on through to the Texas shooting,” Farrell said during a recent interview for EpochTV’s “American Thought Leaders” program."
Warren Farrell, author of the book “The Boy Crisis: Why Our Boys Are Struggling and What We Can Do About It,” has found that being “dad deprived” is a leading factor in males’ increased mental illness, addiction, and suicide."

Fatherless Homes Linked to Mental Illness, Mass Shootings: Author Warren Farrell

www.theepochtimes.com

 

[2aguy]

"Fatherless Homes Linked to Mental Illness, Mass Shootings: Author Warren Farrell​

Warren Farrell, author of the book “The Boy Crisis: Why Our Boys Are Struggling and What We Can Do About It,” has found that being “dad deprived” is a leading factor in males’ increased mental illness, addiction, and suicide.

He links the mass shootings in 53 developed countries to boys and men who lacked a father figure, and he specifically mentioned six mass shootings that have occurred in the United States in the 21st century.

“All six of those mass school shootings that have killed more than 10 people have been done by boys, and all six of them have been done by boys who have been ‘dad deprived,’ from Sandy Hook right on through to the Texas shooting,” Farrell said during a recent interview for EpochTV’s “American Thought Leaders” program."
Warren Farrell, author of the book “The Boy Crisis: Why Our Boys Are Struggling and What We Can Do About It,” has found that being “dad deprived” is a leading factor in males’ increased mental illness, addiction, and suicide."

Fatherless Homes Linked to Mental Illness, Mass Shootings: Author Warren Farrell

www.theepochtimes.com

Yep....the real cause of crime in this country....

 

[PoliticalChic]

Yep....the real cause of crime in this country....

That's what the Democrats told them: 'A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.'

And we are reaping the result.

 

[Open Bolt]

So you are really trying to equate World War 2 in Europe and one of the most evil Right wing regimes that ever existed with "peacetime" America?
You need to take your meds.

It is a valid response when Europeans try to tell Americans that the European system will save lives compared to the American system.

The purpose is to minimise the possibility of such events, and in that respect our gun control laws have been very effective.

That is incorrect. Those laws have had no effect whatsoever, beyond the pointless loss of your freedom.

You seem indifferent to children being shot in schools because so "few" have been killed in 56 years, well after Dunblane and 18 dead, we've not had another school shooting since.

You didn't prevent any school massacres. Your rate of school massacres is the same now as it was before you abolished freedom.

They only "whiny children" are the gun crazies that go into a meltdown when adults try to restrict how they can play with their "toys".

That is doubly wrong. First, we do not whine, and we certainly don't "go into a meltdown". We simply tell you "no" when you demand that we abolish our freedom.

And second, the actual whiners are the brats from Parkland. You haven't heard real whining if you haven't heard a Parkland brat throw a temper tantrum.

Usually when someone puts up a valid argument they are unable to refute. You just get a torrent of BS responses that try to deflect from the original argument and loose the valid point in a torrent of manure.

Fake news.

There has never been a valid argument in favor of abolishing freedom.

And all of our responses are entirely factual.