The Revelator did not write in Hebrew or Latin. The Apocalypse was written in Greek.

In Revelation 6:2, a bow (the Greek tŏxŏn) is just a bow, as in bow and arrow (5115). A crown (the Greek stĕphanŏs) is something that surrounds, as a wall or crowd (4735).
Yes we know it was written in Greek, but do you read Greek? It had to be translated in to Latin and then English.

But some like to pick at the bones while missing the meat, and entirely avoiding the topic of discussion, such as you are doing here, unfortunately.

So what do you think? Will their be a Global Government, and will their be a Charismatic Leader at the head of it?

What about a cashless society? Do you believe that is coming?
 
The Apocalypse does not mention an anti-Christ. It may allude to opposition to Christ, just as the early church was infested with anti-christs, according to some of the epistles.
 
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The Revelator did not write in Hebrew or Latin. The Apocalypse was written in Greek.

In Revelation 6:2, a bow (the Greek tŏxŏn) is just a bow, as in bow and arrow (5115). A crown (the Greek stĕphanŏs) is something that surrounds, as a wall or crowd (4735).
Yes we know it was written in Greek, but do you read Greek? It had to be translated in to Latin and then English.

But some like to pick at the bones while missing the meat, and entirely avoiding the topic of discussion, such as you are doing here, unfortunately.

So what do you think? Will their be a Global Government, and will their be a Charismatic Leader at the head of it?

What about a cashless society? Do you believe that is coming?
Latin and English are irrelevant to the original manuscript.

I'm not nitpicking; I'm being faithful to the author's intent. What is unfortunate is injecting meaning into a text that simply is not there.

No, I don't believe any of that stuff you mention is biblical.
 
more Gematria

From Wiki:

Poisoned arrows are referred to in the Book of Job in the Bible.[3] The modern terms "toxic" and "toxin" derive from the ancient Greek word for "bow", toxon, from Old Persian *taxa-, "an arrow".[4][5]


Taxa is also used to refer to a bow used for shooting poison arrows.

yeah JOB was written in hebrew-----as to your greek
discussion----it must be from the SEPTUAGINT---a translation produced somthing like 150 BC---in a form of greek
I was just citing another incidence where the text is rendered as Corona, and this was in The Torah.

hebrew for crown is KETER -----as to why the virus was named CORONA----it probably has something to
do with its configuration as seen on electron microscopy -------IDK -----how about we call it
keter19 which is one more than 18 ---
a concept that can lead to more gematria
The word Corona is a Latin word, so for the reference I cited, I am making an educated guess that the writer is referring to the Latin Translation of the passage.

Latin is extremely important in the discussion of scripture because it his how we get from Greek to Latin to English, and from Hebrew to Latin to English.

The English Language is a Latin Language or Romance Language and therefore when discussing translations, you most always have to bring Latin in to the discussion.

English:

Crown

Latin:

Corona

Hebrew:

הכתר

Hebrew to English for הכתר is Crown

Try it yourself in Google Translate

keṯer "Crown") also known as Kether, is the topmost of the sephirot of the Tree of Life in Kabbalah. Since its meaning is "crown", it is interpreted as both the "topmost" of the Sephirot and the "regal crown" of the Sephirot.

Keter - Wikipedia"%20of%20the%20Sephirot.

I find it also highly interesting that The AntiChrist during his rule proclaims himself God.

From the same wiki reference

The name of God associated with Keter is Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh (Hebrew: אהיה אשר אהיה), the name through which he revealed himself to Moses from the burning bush.[4] "It is from the name Ehyeh that all kinds of sustenance emanate, coming from the source, which is the infinite".

right---you are getting carried away with the GEMATRIA-----imho. Historically---I know of no
project involving a translation of the Hebrew bible
directly into Latin--------but who knows what those
monks were doing
 
The Apocalypse does not mention an anti-Christ. It may allude to opposition to Christ, just as the early church was infested with anti-christs, according to some of the epistles.
You are wrong unfortunately. However it is possible that The Beast or AntiChrist is not a singular person but an End Time Evil System of Global Government, but the language used in Revelation and in Daniel used refers to a singular person, a man, a man of sin, a king of fierce countenance, the little horn, and there are many other names for him.

If there is no AntiChrist then what is The Mark of The Beast, and why is everyone condemned for taking his mark, his number or his name?

Who is the person who confirms the covenant with Israel? Surely this person signs and validates this end times peace agreement?

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (Daniel 9:27)

This is from The Book of Daniel referencing The End Times "Mark of The Beast":

The Mark of the Beast

16 And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark—the name of the beast or the number of its name.

18 Here is a call for wisdom: Let the one who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and that number is 666.
 
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OP ... your sig line is quite hateful ... the actual Christ taught a doctrine of love ... are we to assume you have "inside" information on the plans of The Devil? ... and why should we expect The Devil to allow The Truth be spoken here? ...

Those who knew Christ while He lived believe He would return in their lifetimes ... who are we to say they were wrong? ...
 
OP ... your sig line is quite hateful ... the actual Christ taught a doctrine of love ... are we to assume you have "inside" information on the plans of The Devil? ... and why should we expect The Devil to allow The Truth be spoken here? ...

Those who knew Christ while He lived believe He would return in their lifetimes ... who are we to say they were wrong? ...
Sadly, the majority of Christians believe they were wrong. They believe Christ was wrong, too, who said that his own days were days of vengeance when all the prophecies would be fulfilled (Lk 21:22).

Some how, for some reason, the church, even as early as the second century, dismissed the words of Jesus and the apostles.
 
OP ... your sig line is quite hateful ... the actual Christ taught a doctrine of love ... are we to assume you have "inside" information on the plans of The Devil? ... and why should we expect The Devil to allow The Truth be spoken here? ...

Those who knew Christ while He lived believe He would return in their lifetimes ... who are we to say they were wrong? ...
So in Revelation, when Christ slaughters in one Violent Instant, All the AntiChrist Armies and All the armies of the world at Armageddon gathered together in such a sudden manner that the blood and flesh left behind in the aftermath is as deep as the horse's bridle for 147 miles, you are saying God can't do that because God is a God of Love?

And in Ezekiel, when God destroys the combined armies of Russia, Turkey, Iran, Libya, Syria, and The Sudan on The Mountains of Israel when "they come to take a spoil" and He wipes out 9/10ths of that combined coalition's military force, you are saying God can't do that even though He said He would because He is a God of Love?

It takes 7 years to clean the wreckage from the battlefield and 7 years to bury the bodies from The Gog Magog War and his armies and his allies destroyed. God is not a God of Love, only. He is a God of Jealous Wrath and is Holy and Righteous and He cannot tolerate Evil for long. While He will at times allow Israel to be chastised and punished, He will also defend them at the appropriate times.

He is also a God of Justice, and there can be no sinners in Heaven or on The New Earth or in The Millennial Kingdom.

He will not allow His coming Kingdom to be contaminated with filth. There will be a judgment day, and those who rejected His Love Gift of His Son for the Forgiveness of Sins will be removed forever from God's coming Kingdom.

When God hands over the wicked inhabitants of The Earth to Satan, The AntiChrist and False Prophet because this is what they ask for, and The 21 Judgments befall Earth, you are saying God can't do that because He is a God of Love, and not a God of Justice, nor Wrath?

 
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OP ... your sig line is quite hateful ... the actual Christ taught a doctrine of love ... are we to assume you have "inside" information on the plans of The Devil? ... and why should we expect The Devil to allow The Truth be spoken here? ...

Those who knew Christ while He lived believe He would return in their lifetimes ... who are we to say they were wrong? ...
So in Revelation, when Christ slaughters in one Violent Instant, All the AntiChrist Armies and All the armies of the world at Armageddon gathered together in such a sudden manner that the blood and flesh left behind in the aftermath is as deep as the horse's bridle for 147 miles, you are saying God can't do that because God is a God of Love?

And in Ezekiel, when God destroys the combined armies of Russia, Turkey, Iran, Libya, Syria, and The Sudan on The Mountains of Israel when "they come to take a spoil" and He wipes out 9/10ths of that combined coalition's military force, you are saying God can't do that even though He said He would because He is a God of Love?

It takes 7 years to clean the wreckage from the battlefield and 7 years to bury the bodies from The Gog Magog War and his armies and his allies destroyed. God is not a God of Love, only. He is a God of Jealous Wrath and is Holy and Righteous and He cannot tolerate Evil for long. While He will at times allow Israel to be chastised and punished, He will also defend them at the appropriate times.

He is also a God of Justice, and there can be no sinners in Heaven or on The New Earth or in The Millennial Kingdom.

He will not allow His coming Kingdom to be contaminated with filth. There will be a judgment day, and those who rejected His Love Gift of His Son for the Forgiveness of Sins will be removed forever from God's coming Kingdom.

When God hands over the wicked inhabitants of The Earth to Satan, The AntiChrist and False Prophet because this is what they ask for, and The 21 Judgments befall Earth, you are saying God can't do that because He is a God of Love, and not a God of Justice, nor Wrath?


Yet still you hate liberals? ... before you can understand Revelations, you have to understand Matthew ... start with chapters 5 through 7 ... with very careful note of Matthew 7:28 ... don't just read it, don't just study it ... live it with every God given breath ...

“But our delight is in the law of the LORD; and in His law doth we meditate day and night.”
 
OP ... your sig line is quite hateful ... the actual Christ taught a doctrine of love ... are we to assume you have "inside" information on the plans of The Devil? ... and why should we expect The Devil to allow The Truth be spoken here? ...

Those who knew Christ while He lived believe He would return in their lifetimes ... who are we to say they were wrong? ...
So in Revelation, when Christ slaughters in one Violent Instant, All the AntiChrist Armies and All the armies of the world at Armageddon gathered together in such a sudden manner that the blood and flesh left behind in the aftermath is as deep as the horse's bridle for 147 miles, you are saying God can't do that because God is a God of Love?

And in Ezekiel, when God destroys the combined armies of Russia, Turkey, Iran, Libya, Syria, and The Sudan on The Mountains of Israel when "they come to take a spoil" and He wipes out 9/10ths of that combined coalition's military force, you are saying God can't do that even though He said He would because He is a God of Love?

It takes 7 years to clean the wreckage from the battlefield and 7 years to bury the bodies from The Gog Magog War and his armies and his allies destroyed. God is not a God of Love, only. He is a God of Jealous Wrath and is Holy and Righteous and He cannot tolerate Evil for long. While He will at times allow Israel to be chastised and punished, He will also defend them at the appropriate times.

He is also a God of Justice, and there can be no sinners in Heaven or on The New Earth or in The Millennial Kingdom.

He will not allow His coming Kingdom to be contaminated with filth. There will be a judgment day, and those who rejected His Love Gift of His Son for the Forgiveness of Sins will be removed forever from God's coming Kingdom.

When God hands over the wicked inhabitants of The Earth to Satan, The AntiChrist and False Prophet because this is what they ask for, and The 21 Judgments befall Earth, you are saying God can't do that because He is a God of Love, and not a God of Justice, nor Wrath?


Yet still you hate liberals? ... before you can understand Revelations, you have to understand Matthew ... start with chapters 5 through 7 ... with very careful note of Matthew 7:28 ... don't just read it, don't just study it ... live it with every God given breath ...

“But our delight is in the law of the LORD; and in His law doth we meditate day and night.”

ROFLMAO @ matthew
 
OP ... your sig line is quite hateful ... the actual Christ taught a doctrine of love ... are we to assume you have "inside" information on the plans of The Devil? ... and why should we expect The Devil to allow The Truth be spoken here? ...

Those who knew Christ while He lived believe He would return in their lifetimes ... who are we to say they were wrong? ...
So in Revelation, when Christ slaughters in one Violent Instant, All the AntiChrist Armies and All the armies of the world at Armageddon gathered together in such a sudden manner that the blood and flesh left behind in the aftermath is as deep as the horse's bridle for 147 miles, you are saying God can't do that because God is a God of Love?

And in Ezekiel, when God destroys the combined armies of Russia, Turkey, Iran, Libya, Syria, and The Sudan on The Mountains of Israel when "they come to take a spoil" and He wipes out 9/10ths of that combined coalition's military force, you are saying God can't do that even though He said He would because He is a God of Love?

It takes 7 years to clean the wreckage from the battlefield and 7 years to bury the bodies from The Gog Magog War and his armies and his allies destroyed. God is not a God of Love, only. He is a God of Jealous Wrath and is Holy and Righteous and He cannot tolerate Evil for long. While He will at times allow Israel to be chastised and punished, He will also defend them at the appropriate times.

He is also a God of Justice, and there can be no sinners in Heaven or on The New Earth or in The Millennial Kingdom.

He will not allow His coming Kingdom to be contaminated with filth. There will be a judgment day, and those who rejected His Love Gift of His Son for the Forgiveness of Sins will be removed forever from God's coming Kingdom.

When God hands over the wicked inhabitants of The Earth to Satan, The AntiChrist and False Prophet because this is what they ask for, and The 21 Judgments befall Earth, you are saying God can't do that because He is a God of Love, and not a God of Justice, nor Wrath?


Yet still you hate liberals? ... before you can understand Revelations, you have to understand Matthew ... start with chapters 5 through 7 ... with very careful note of Matthew 7:28 ... don't just read it, don't just study it ... live it with every God given breath ...

“But our delight is in the law of the LORD; and in His law doth we meditate day and night.”
It's God that hates Liberals and that is why He throws them in to Hell on Judgment Day. There will also be quite a few Ungodly Conservatives and Republicans going to Hell with their Democrat friends.

Yes God Hates! He hates Evil and Hates Sin and it cannot be in His Presence. That is why there will be no unrepentant sinners in Heaven who have not accepted Christ as Lord and Savior.

How long do you think God will withhold His Wrath on abortions, infidelity, sexual perversions, lying, murder, and thievery? Eventually His cup of Wrath will overflow and then comes the events in The Book of Revelation.

When the last saint has committed to Christ, and only The Father knows the number He wants to achieve, then comes The End.
 
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It's God that hates Liberals and that is why He throws them in to Hell on Judgment Day. There will also be quite a few Ungodly Conservatives and Republicans going to Hell with their Democrat friends.

Yes God Hates! He hates Evil and Hates Sin and it cannot be in His Presence. That is why there will be no unrepentant sinners in Heaven who have not accepted Christ as Lord and Savior.

How long do you think God will withhold His Wrath on abortions, infidelity, sexual perversions, lying, murder, and thievery? Eventually His cup of Wrath will overflow and then comes the events in The Book of Revelation.

When the last saint has committed to Christ, and only The Father knows the number He wants to achieve, then comes The End.

I'll not presume to know God's will ... to us He commands "Love your brother as you love yourself" ... I know you're not calling God a liar, so it is yourself you truly hate the most ... a sin I am quite intimate with ... all hate starts with self-loathing, we first see ourselves in others ... you don't hate liberals, you hate that you agree with them sometimes ... we all do that ...

If and when you decide to read the Bible, try to take special note of what the Bible says about setting stumbling blocks before those who are seeking salvation through Jesus Christ ... your sig line demands these seekers start calling their friends and loved ones a bunch of Nazis ... "great work, Fitz, great work" ... how many people have read that and immediately turned to Alan Watts? ... one is too many ...

The "poor and oppressed" that Christ came to comfort do not have internet access ... they can not speak for themselves here ... so why aren't you? ...
 
The Book of Daniel References The AntiChrist in Revelation as The Man of Sin, The Little Horn, The King of Fierce Countenance, and the Book of Revelation expounds more about him.

As far as the book of Daniel goes the a prophecy in it reads roughly:

70 weeks or 490 years of prophecy are determined upon the people Israel from the going out of the decree to rebuild Jerusalem and return the Jews to their land. At the 69th week Messiah will be cut off, and He was at the 483 year mark to the day. At that point the prophetic clock stopped for Israel.

That means there are just 7 years of prophecy left. In Revelation, that 7 year period which has been on hold until The Jewish Nation was regathered since the time of the Crucifixion is called The Tribulation and in Daniel it is called The Time of Jacob's Trouble. This is the time AntiChrist rules and comes to power and makes a peace covenant with Israel.

Christ Himself returns to break that peace covenant , after approximately 70% of the population of Earth is killed in just 7 years, and 2/3rds of all Jews are exterminated by AntiChrist as The AntiChrist corners the last 1/3rd to wipe them out forever.

At that time, Christ returns, Armageddon is fought, and The Jews look up and see "Him whom they pierced" and ask Him, "What are these wounds in Thy hands?" and He says, "They were given to me in the house of my friends" and at that time they realize that He was The Messiah whom they crucified and they weep and mourn as "One who lost an only son". Then Messiah pours out His Spirit upon the remnant of Israel redeeming them and grafting them back in to the original vine.

So the book of Revelation is primarily a prophecy of The End Times for all humanity but mostly it is about the final redemption of Israel, and the coming Kingdom and the end to Evil, and the powers behind it, and the beginning of The Millennial Kingdom, and of course, one final push by Lucifer at the end of the 1,000 year reign which is put down and helps to weed out the last few humans still tainted with sin from the human race.

Then the New Earth and New Heaven and Eternity.

The book of Daniel was written in 164 BC and is about Antiochus IV Epiphanies who defiled the temple and tried to Hellenize the Jews.
 
We are called to "Endure to The End" so Endure. There is also a promise of The Great Harpazo (Greek) for true believers so that they will not have to go through the time of Jacob's Trouble, nor see the 4 horseman, but this is debatable for when this event occurs. We are called to "endure" and to "look up for your redemption draws near."

"He who loves this earthly life shall lose his life and he that hates this earthly life shall save his life."

You're a futurist . Revelation is a letter to 7 existing congregations. It's good news. Jesus won.
 
You're a futurist . Revelation is a letter to 7 existing congregations. It's good news. Jesus won.
You can't see past your own large nose to understand anything. It's far more than that, but you are an idiot with little understanding of what the prophecies and scriptures actually say.

You read it like a text book because you have no spiritual discernment. Thinking you are full of wisdom, you show yourself only to be a fool.
 

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