Two Police Officers Shot In The Head in Compton, California

[RoshawnMarkwees]

do have a right to resist an unlawful arrest. Before long everyone will understand that. Its why the founders incorporated the 2nd Amendment.

You’d better not take that advice. Resisting arrest is itself a crime. FU and your second amendment. It has no place when it comes to a cop performing his duty. You’d better not resist by producing a weapon. Terrible post. The time to resist any arrest is by filing a complaint or instituting a suit after the fact. You’re giving stupid advice.

Resisting an illegal arrest is not a crime. Yes forever the cops would arrest you for that but when we have proof that the arrest was not lawful the charges get dropped. We are going to stop that practice. The cops are going to learn what they can and what they can not do or they are going to continue to lose their jobs.

Poor people can not afford to file lawsuits. I have never understood those who believe that paying people millions and millions dollars a year in settlements is a better system than proper police training.

Animal---not bright enough to know that you are forcing the US to make a choice to either allow criminals and their supporters to terrorize cops and their communities as you suggest or to go back to common sense---if you resist arrest, you should expect to be shot.

Resisting arrest is a crime idgit-----and sorry but all of these cases that blm keep putting are up are cases of violent criminals resisting lawful arrests------think you have been unfairly arrested, tell it to the judge. Refuse to be arrested, get shot.

Who taught you (erroneously) that you can shoot someone for simply committing a crime or resisting arrest? Because neither is true.

Cops have to meet the same standards as anyone else, they must have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury based on a totality of the circumstances before they are legally justified in using lethal force.
Now cops often do get the benefit of the doubt a lot more often than private citizens do, but I don't know any realistic way to change that dynamic.
Humans are wired to root for their own team.

Well that's a problem then because this isn't a teams situation although there certainly is a lot of mindless group think going on.

And while I understand what you're saying, no one should be subjected to a violation of their civil rights up to being physically brutalized and/or killed, due to personality defects, character flaws or other mental defects of some of people working as police officers who have the legal right to curtail your freedom or your life even when they are in the wrong, with there seldom being consequences. The likelihood of this happening to black people and other minorities is higher simply because police officers erroneously believe that black people commit more criminal offenses.

Black people do commit more criminal offenses.
And cops know this.
I've been an outlaw around cops for a long time and I have plenty of bad experiences with them under my belt, or narrowly avoided, and I just don't think hardly any of them are racists. They have a real tendency to bully people, but I don't think it's racial. The last cop I ran into that I got a racist vibe off of was a Harris County Sheriff's Deputy who gave me a ticket with a big side serving of shitty attitude, a few months back. Refused to give up his business card, too. He was black, and I look just like that peckerwood that your grandma still has nightmares about. So maybe he was a racist...... maybe. Maybe he was just an asshole. Hell, maybe he was a good guy having a shitty day.
I'm still going to fight the ticket, either way.

That's the thing, every group has their assholes no one is denying that but the powers that be have you all believing that black people are more criminally inclined by nature than whites therefore commit more crime and that's simply is not true.

White supremacist created the system under which we live and they created to give white citizens every advantage possible while exploiting and abusing the black population. They control the narrative and as we see every day on this message board, their propaganda continues to work to this day.

I'm not the kind of person who simply believes everything that I'm told. I've always liked to do my own research and the actual data does not support the assertion that blacks commit more crimes than whites. Our current law enforcement agencies and systems originated from the slave patrols and were created to control and punish black people. When they evolved from slave patrols to law enforcement it was in order to protect white businesses and property owners from blacks and poor whites. Because the white ruling class was in control of everything they passed laws that specifically applied to black people and disproportionately impacted black people in a negative way. And you have to remember, the black people we're speaking of had gone from captivity to allegedly becoming free members of society but with no inherent knowledge or education on how to navigate that system, all while being the target of schemes and other legal maneuvering designed to exploit and oftentimes profit off of their disadvantaged status.

If they were willing to do all of this, you think they'd balk at lying and manufacturing statistics that show white citizens in a positive light and black people eternally in the negative lights we've always be portrayed as?

I wrote this yesterday in response to Beagle9. It talks about the racist roots of gun control and the convict leasing system that served as a substitution for outright slavery for many black people.
CDZ - What's more important, gun's and ammo or PRIVACY ??

Bullshit.
For well over 50 years, blacks have had every opportunity — and then some — to generate a living and a future.
Black social demise has been a result of depleted family structure and democrats perpetuating that and the victim culture.

Well over 50 years out of 324 years in which blacks were either held in captivity or living under Jim Crow/racial segregation as compared to whites? That's not enough time for anyone to catch up with all other things being equal which it definitely has not been because the only thing that changed with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was putting it on paper that racial discrimination was not longer lawful however it did nothing to change the hearts and minds of the racist population as evidenced by the continued hate crimes and civil rights cases being litigated today in 2020. You can't create generational wealth without sufficient time to both acquire it and pass it down.

President Johnson knew that the passage of the Civil Rights Act was just the first step. He addressed the graduating class of Howard during that time with the following (in part):

"In far too many ways American Negroes have been another nation: deprived of freedom, crippled by hatred, the doors of opportunity closed to hope.​

In our time change has come to this Nation, too. The American Negro, acting with impressive restraint, has peacefully protested and marched, entered the courtrooms and the seats of government, demanding a justice that has long been denied. The voice of the Negro was the call to action. But it is a tribute to America that, once aroused, the courts and the Congress, the President and most of the people, have been the allies of progress.​

​

Thus we have seen the high court of the country declare that discrimination based on race was repugnant to the Constitution, and therefore void. We have seen in 1957, and 1960, and again in 1964, the first civil rights legislation in this Nation in almost an entire century.​

​

As majority leader of the United States Senate, I helped to guide two of these bills through the Senate. And, as your President, I was proud to sign the third. And now very soon we will have the fourth – a new law guaranteeing every American the right to vote​

​

No act of my entire administration will give me greater satisfaction than the day when my signature makes this bill, too, the law of this land.​

​

The voting rights bill will be the latest, and among the most important, in a long series of victories. But this victory – as Winston Churchill said of another triumph for freedom – “is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”​

​

That beginning is freedom; and the barriers to that freedom are tumbling down. Freedom is the right to share, share fully and equally, in American society – to vote, to hold a job, to enter a public place, to go to school. It is the right to be treated in every part of our national life as a person equal in dignity and promise to all others.​

​

But freedom is not enough. You do not wipe away the scars of centuries by saying: Now you are free to go where you want, and do as you desire, and choose the leaders you please.​

​

You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say, “you are free to compete with all the others,” and still justly believe that you have been completely fair.​

​

Thus it is not enough just to open the gates of opportunity. All our citizens must have the ability to walk through those gates.​

​

This is the next and the more profound stage of the battle for civil rights. We seek not just freedom but opportunity. We seek not just legal equity but human ability, not just equality as a right and a theory but equality as a fact and equality as a result.​

​

For the task is to give 20 million Negroes the same chance as every other American to learn and grow, to work and share in society, to develop their abilities – physical, mental and spiritual, and to pursue their individual happiness.​

​

To this end equal opportunity is essential, but not enough, not enough. Men and women of all races are born with the same range of abilities. But ability is not just the product of birth. Ability is stretched or stunted by the family that you live with, and the neighborhood you live in – by the school you go to and the poverty or the richness of your surroundings. It is the product of a hundred unseen forces playing upon the little infant, the child, and finally the man.​

​

This graduating class at Howard University is witness to the indomitable determination of the Negro American to win his way in American life."​

Bullshit. One generation is all it takes. And it only takes one generation to make things worse.
A black was potus. Blacks in PG County, MD, own homes most midwestern whites can’t afford.
50% of blacks in my midwestern town are on drugs and welfare. That’s democrat cultural legacy.

Wrong dude. The substance abuse rate among whites is higher.

• White: 7.7%
• Hispanic or Latino 7.1%
• Black or African American 6.9%
• Asian American: 4.8%
• American Indian or Alaskan Native: 10.1%
• Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 9.3%

I’m not disputing that as it’s a separate issue.
But I live in da hood and my retired prostitute/recovered-crack-and-heroin-addict neighbor shows me all of the drug users and locations in town. She still smokes pot as do most blacks in town.

Hilarious hypocrites.
Just like red neck whites swill on beer all the time and sip their glasses glasses of wine with their meals and can’t start their day without their overload of Caffeine the world’s most widely used drug of choice.
You guys are laughable. You drug up every day with your sugary little highs then wonder why you’re 40 to 100 lbs over weight. I don’t know of any lardo red neck TrumpHole that doesn’t drug up every day.

Poor attempt at rationalization.
What’s more, one drug abuse doesn’t justify another.

 

[Markle]

Wrong dude. The substance abuse rate among whites is higher.

• White: 7.7%
• Hispanic or Latino 7.1%
• Black or African American 6.9%
• Asian American: 4.8%
• American Indian or Alaskan Native: 10.1%
• Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander: 9.3%

Sorry but those indicate that specific substances have been used by the individual during the past year.


Below you’ll find the percentages of 12-year-old or older white Americans who used these substances in the past year:4

• Illicit Drug Use: 20.2%
  • Marijuana: 16.5%
  • Cocaine: 2.1%
  • Methamphetamine: 0.8%
  • Misuse of Prescription Stimulants: 2.2%
  • Benzodiazepines: 2.3%
  • Opioids (includes heroin and prescription pain relievers): 3.8%
• Tobacco: 29.4%
• Alcohol use: 67%

The use of some of these substances, including tobacco and alcohol, does not mean that they have a substance use disorder.

###


Below you’ll find the percentages of 12-year-old or older Black Americans who used the following substances in the past year:4

• Illicit Drug Use: 20.8%
  • Marijuana: 17.8%
  • Cocaine: 1.8%
  • Methamphetamine: 0.2%
  • Misuse of Prescription Stimulants: 0.9%
  • Benzodiazepines: 1%
  • Opioids (includes heroin and prescription pain relievers): 3.8%
• Tobacco: 27.2%
• Alcohol use: 57.3%

According to the 2018 NSDUH, 6.9% of African Americans aged 12 and older had a substance use disorder in the past year.4

Addiction Among Different Races | Alcohol & Drug Use In America

This is an in-depth analysis of addiction among each race in the U.S. Read on for more info about how and why substance abuse effects each race differently.

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[WEATHER53]

do have a right to resist an unlawful arrest. Before long everyone will understand that. Its why the founders incorporated the 2nd Amendment.

You’d better not take that advice. Resisting arrest is itself a crime. FU and your second amendment. It has no place when it comes to a cop performing his duty. You’d better not resist by producing a weapon. Terrible post. The time to resist any arrest is by filing a complaint or instituting a suit after the fact. You’re giving stupid advice.

Resisting an illegal arrest is not a crime. Yes forever the cops would arrest you for that but when we have proof that the arrest was not lawful the charges get dropped. We are going to stop that practice. The cops are going to learn what they can and what they can not do or they are going to continue to lose their jobs.

Poor people can not afford to file lawsuits. I have never understood those who believe that paying people millions and millions dollars a year in settlements is a better system than proper police training.

Animal---not bright enough to know that you are forcing the US to make a choice to either allow criminals and their supporters to terrorize cops and their communities as you suggest or to go back to common sense---if you resist arrest, you should expect to be shot.

Resisting arrest is a crime idgit-----and sorry but all of these cases that blm keep putting are up are cases of violent criminals resisting lawful arrests------think you have been unfairly arrested, tell it to the judge. Refuse to be arrested, get shot.

Who taught you (erroneously) that you can shoot someone for simply committing a crime or resisting arrest? Because neither is true.

Cops have to meet the same standards as anyone else, they must have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury based on a totality of the circumstances before they are legally justified in using lethal force.
Now cops often do get the benefit of the doubt a lot more often than private citizens do, but I don't know any realistic way to change that dynamic.
Humans are wired to root for their own team.

Well that's a problem then because this isn't a teams situation although there certainly is a lot of mindless group think going on.

And while I understand what you're saying, no one should be subjected to a violation of their civil rights up to being physically brutalized and/or killed, due to personality defects, character flaws or other mental defects of some of people working as police officers who have the legal right to curtail your freedom or your life even when they are in the wrong, with there seldom being consequences. The likelihood of this happening to black people and other minorities is higher simply because police officers erroneously believe that black people commit more criminal offenses.

Black people do commit more criminal offenses.
And cops know this.
I've been an outlaw around cops for a long time and I have plenty of bad experiences with them under my belt, or narrowly avoided, and I just don't think hardly any of them are racists. They have a real tendency to bully people, but I don't think it's racial. The last cop I ran into that I got a racist vibe off of was a Harris County Sheriff's Deputy who gave me a ticket with a big side serving of shitty attitude, a few months back. Refused to give up his business card, too. He was black, and I look just like that peckerwood that your grandma still has nightmares about. So maybe he was a racist...... maybe. Maybe he was just an asshole. Hell, maybe he was a good guy having a shitty day.
I'm still going to fight the ticket, either way.

That's the thing, every group has their assholes no one is denying that but the powers that be have you all believing that black people are more criminally inclined by nature than whites therefore commit more crime and that's simply is not true.

White supremacist created the system under which we live and they created to give white citizens every advantage possible while exploiting and abusing the black population. They control the narrative and as we see every day on this message board, their propaganda continues to work to this day.

I'm not the kind of person who simply believes everything that I'm told. I've always liked to do my own research and the actual data does not support the assertion that blacks commit more crimes than whites. Our current law enforcement agencies and systems originated from the slave patrols and were created to control and punish black people. When they evolved from slave patrols to law enforcement it was in order to protect white businesses and property owners from blacks and poor whites. Because the white ruling class was in control of everything they passed laws that specifically applied to black people and disproportionately impacted black people in a negative way. And you have to remember, the black people we're speaking of had gone from captivity to allegedly becoming free members of society but with no inherent knowledge or education on how to navigate that system, all while being the target of schemes and other legal maneuvering designed to exploit and oftentimes profit off of their disadvantaged status.

If they were willing to do all of this, you think they'd balk at lying and manufacturing statistics that show white citizens in a positive light and black people eternally in the negative lights we've always be portrayed as?

I wrote this yesterday in response to Beagle9. It talks about the racist roots of gun control and the convict leasing system that served as a substitution for outright slavery for many black people.
CDZ - What's more important, gun's and ammo or PRIVACY ??

Bullshit.
For well over 50 years, blacks have had every opportunity — and then some — to generate a living and a future.
Black social demise has been a result of depleted family structure and democrats perpetuating that and the victim culture.

Well over 50 years out of 324 years in which blacks were either held in captivity or living under Jim Crow/racial segregation as compared to whites? That's not enough time for anyone to catch up with all other things being equal which it definitely has not been because the only thing that changed with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was putting it on paper that racial discrimination was not longer lawful however it did nothing to change the hearts and minds of the racist population as evidenced by the continued hate crimes and civil rights cases being litigated today in 2020. You can't create generational wealth without sufficient time to both acquire it and pass it down.

President Johnson knew that the passage of the Civil Rights Act was just the first step. He addressed the graduating class of Howard during that time with the following (in part):

"In far too many ways American Negroes have been another nation: deprived of freedom, crippled by hatred, the doors of opportunity closed to hope.​

In our time change has come to this Nation, too. The American Negro, acting with impressive restraint, has peacefully protested and marched, entered the courtrooms and the seats of government, demanding a justice that has long been denied. The voice of the Negro was the call to action. But it is a tribute to America that, once aroused, the courts and the Congress, the President and most of the people, have been the allies of progress.​

​

Thus we have seen the high court of the country declare that discrimination based on race was repugnant to the Constitution, and therefore void. We have seen in 1957, and 1960, and again in 1964, the first civil rights legislation in this Nation in almost an entire century.​

​

As majority leader of the United States Senate, I helped to guide two of these bills through the Senate. And, as your President, I was proud to sign the third. And now very soon we will have the fourth – a new law guaranteeing every American the right to vote​

​

No act of my entire administration will give me greater satisfaction than the day when my signature makes this bill, too, the law of this land.​

​

The voting rights bill will be the latest, and among the most important, in a long series of victories. But this victory – as Winston Churchill said of another triumph for freedom – “is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”​

​

That beginning is freedom; and the barriers to that freedom are tumbling down. Freedom is the right to share, share fully and equally, in American society – to vote, to hold a job, to enter a public place, to go to school. It is the right to be treated in every part of our national life as a person equal in dignity and promise to all others.​

​

But freedom is not enough. You do not wipe away the scars of centuries by saying: Now you are free to go where you want, and do as you desire, and choose the leaders you please.​

​

You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say, “you are free to compete with all the others,” and still justly believe that you have been completely fair.​

​

Thus it is not enough just to open the gates of opportunity. All our citizens must have the ability to walk through those gates.​

​

This is the next and the more profound stage of the battle for civil rights. We seek not just freedom but opportunity. We seek not just legal equity but human ability, not just equality as a right and a theory but equality as a fact and equality as a result.​

​

For the task is to give 20 million Negroes the same chance as every other American to learn and grow, to work and share in society, to develop their abilities – physical, mental and spiritual, and to pursue their individual happiness.​

​

To this end equal opportunity is essential, but not enough, not enough. Men and women of all races are born with the same range of abilities. But ability is not just the product of birth. Ability is stretched or stunted by the family that you live with, and the neighborhood you live in – by the school you go to and the poverty or the richness of your surroundings. It is the product of a hundred unseen forces playing upon the little infant, the child, and finally the man.​

​

This graduating class at Howard University is witness to the indomitable determination of the Negro American to win his way in American life."​

Bullshit. One generation is all it takes. And it only takes one generation to make things worse.
A black was potus. Blacks in PG County, MD, own homes most midwestern whites can’t afford.
50% of blacks in my midwestern town are on drugs and welfare. That’s democrat cultural legacy.

My grandfather was a Tuskegee Airman. He along with the rest of the Airmen had all of the requisite skills required to leave the military and pursue a successful and lucrative career as commercial airlines pilots had he lived, however it was almost 20 years between the end of WWII and the time that the airlines finally allowed an African American pilot to fly for them. And don't think it was a cakewalk just because they finally got their foot in the door mid 1960s.

No one has the right to tell another human being that they should be satisfied with less in life and should be doing much better with what crumbs the white ruling class in America threw at them.

It doesn't matter how many generations pass, if you don't have the capital to build up or can't acquire it. It was forbidden for blacks to own property and written into the deeds that the white property owners could not sell to black people. Real estate is one of the best ways to generate wealth but how were we supposed to do that when white society wouldn't allow it?

The only bullshit here is the condescending and arrogant attitude of those white racists who view black people as wayward children and refuse to accept let alone acknowledge what members of their race did to create the situation we have always lived with. And this is just one facet of living in a country that is hostile to people who are not white.

The 1960’s were over 50 years ago.
Get over it.

That’s where they live, 50-150 years ago and trying to apply today’s more advanced mores on back then and punish people today for back then using the methodology
The are not forward thinking At All, just bitter condemnation for long ago and faking that it’s here and now.

 

[IM2]

do have a right to resist an unlawful arrest. Before long everyone will understand that. Its why the founders incorporated the 2nd Amendment.

You’d better not take that advice. Resisting arrest is itself a crime. FU and your second amendment. It has no place when it comes to a cop performing his duty. You’d better not resist by producing a weapon. Terrible post. The time to resist any arrest is by filing a complaint or instituting a suit after the fact. You’re giving stupid advice.

Resisting an illegal arrest is not a crime. Yes forever the cops would arrest you for that but when we have proof that the arrest was not lawful the charges get dropped. We are going to stop that practice. The cops are going to learn what they can and what they can not do or they are going to continue to lose their jobs.

Poor people can not afford to file lawsuits. I have never understood those who believe that paying people millions and millions dollars a year in settlements is a better system than proper police training.

Animal---not bright enough to know that you are forcing the US to make a choice to either allow criminals and their supporters to terrorize cops and their communities as you suggest or to go back to common sense---if you resist arrest, you should expect to be shot.

Resisting arrest is a crime idgit-----and sorry but all of these cases that blm keep putting are up are cases of violent criminals resisting lawful arrests------think you have been unfairly arrested, tell it to the judge. Refuse to be arrested, get shot.

Who taught you (erroneously) that you can shoot someone for simply committing a crime or resisting arrest? Because neither is true.

Cops have to meet the same standards as anyone else, they must have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury based on a totality of the circumstances before they are legally justified in using lethal force.
Now cops often do get the benefit of the doubt a lot more often than private citizens do, but I don't know any realistic way to change that dynamic.
Humans are wired to root for their own team.

Well that's a problem then because this isn't a teams situation although there certainly is a lot of mindless group think going on.

And while I understand what you're saying, no one should be subjected to a violation of their civil rights up to being physically brutalized and/or killed, due to personality defects, character flaws or other mental defects of some of people working as police officers who have the legal right to curtail your freedom or your life even when they are in the wrong, with there seldom being consequences. The likelihood of this happening to black people and other minorities is higher simply because police officers erroneously believe that black people commit more criminal offenses.

Black people do commit more criminal offenses.
And cops know this.
I've been an outlaw around cops for a long time and I have plenty of bad experiences with them under my belt, or narrowly avoided, and I just don't think hardly any of them are racists. They have a real tendency to bully people, but I don't think it's racial. The last cop I ran into that I got a racist vibe off of was a Harris County Sheriff's Deputy who gave me a ticket with a big side serving of shitty attitude, a few months back. Refused to give up his business card, too. He was black, and I look just like that peckerwood that your grandma still has nightmares about. So maybe he was a racist...... maybe. Maybe he was just an asshole. Hell, maybe he was a good guy having a shitty day.
I'm still going to fight the ticket, either way.

That's the thing, every group has their assholes no one is denying that but the powers that be have you all believing that black people are more criminally inclined by nature than whites therefore commit more crime and that's simply is not true.

White supremacist created the system under which we live and they created to give white citizens every advantage possible while exploiting and abusing the black population. They control the narrative and as we see every day on this message board, their propaganda continues to work to this day.

I'm not the kind of person who simply believes everything that I'm told. I've always liked to do my own research and the actual data does not support the assertion that blacks commit more crimes than whites. Our current law enforcement agencies and systems originated from the slave patrols and were created to control and punish black people. When they evolved from slave patrols to law enforcement it was in order to protect white businesses and property owners from blacks and poor whites. Because the white ruling class was in control of everything they passed laws that specifically applied to black people and disproportionately impacted black people in a negative way. And you have to remember, the black people we're speaking of had gone from captivity to allegedly becoming free members of society but with no inherent knowledge or education on how to navigate that system, all while being the target of schemes and other legal maneuvering designed to exploit and oftentimes profit off of their disadvantaged status.

If they were willing to do all of this, you think they'd balk at lying and manufacturing statistics that show white citizens in a positive light and black people eternally in the negative lights we've always be portrayed as?

I wrote this yesterday in response to Beagle9. It talks about the racist roots of gun control and the convict leasing system that served as a substitution for outright slavery for many black people.
CDZ - What's more important, gun's and ammo or PRIVACY ??

Bullshit.
For well over 50 years, blacks have had every opportunity — and then some — to generate a living and a future.
Black social demise has been a result of depleted family structure and democrats perpetuating that and the victim culture.

Well over 50 years out of 324 years in which blacks were either held in captivity or living under Jim Crow/racial segregation as compared to whites? That's not enough time for anyone to catch up with all other things being equal which it definitely has not been because the only thing that changed with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was putting it on paper that racial discrimination was not longer lawful however it did nothing to change the hearts and minds of the racist population as evidenced by the continued hate crimes and civil rights cases being litigated today in 2020. You can't create generational wealth without sufficient time to both acquire it and pass it down.

President Johnson knew that the passage of the Civil Rights Act was just the first step. He addressed the graduating class of Howard during that time with the following (in part):

"In far too many ways American Negroes have been another nation: deprived of freedom, crippled by hatred, the doors of opportunity closed to hope.​

In our time change has come to this Nation, too. The American Negro, acting with impressive restraint, has peacefully protested and marched, entered the courtrooms and the seats of government, demanding a justice that has long been denied. The voice of the Negro was the call to action. But it is a tribute to America that, once aroused, the courts and the Congress, the President and most of the people, have been the allies of progress.​

​

Thus we have seen the high court of the country declare that discrimination based on race was repugnant to the Constitution, and therefore void. We have seen in 1957, and 1960, and again in 1964, the first civil rights legislation in this Nation in almost an entire century.​

​

As majority leader of the United States Senate, I helped to guide two of these bills through the Senate. And, as your President, I was proud to sign the third. And now very soon we will have the fourth – a new law guaranteeing every American the right to vote​

​

No act of my entire administration will give me greater satisfaction than the day when my signature makes this bill, too, the law of this land.​

​

The voting rights bill will be the latest, and among the most important, in a long series of victories. But this victory – as Winston Churchill said of another triumph for freedom – “is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”​

​

That beginning is freedom; and the barriers to that freedom are tumbling down. Freedom is the right to share, share fully and equally, in American society – to vote, to hold a job, to enter a public place, to go to school. It is the right to be treated in every part of our national life as a person equal in dignity and promise to all others.​

​

But freedom is not enough. You do not wipe away the scars of centuries by saying: Now you are free to go where you want, and do as you desire, and choose the leaders you please.​

​

You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say, “you are free to compete with all the others,” and still justly believe that you have been completely fair.​

​

Thus it is not enough just to open the gates of opportunity. All our citizens must have the ability to walk through those gates.​

​

This is the next and the more profound stage of the battle for civil rights. We seek not just freedom but opportunity. We seek not just legal equity but human ability, not just equality as a right and a theory but equality as a fact and equality as a result.​

​

For the task is to give 20 million Negroes the same chance as every other American to learn and grow, to work and share in society, to develop their abilities – physical, mental and spiritual, and to pursue their individual happiness.​

​

To this end equal opportunity is essential, but not enough, not enough. Men and women of all races are born with the same range of abilities. But ability is not just the product of birth. Ability is stretched or stunted by the family that you live with, and the neighborhood you live in – by the school you go to and the poverty or the richness of your surroundings. It is the product of a hundred unseen forces playing upon the little infant, the child, and finally the man.​

​

This graduating class at Howard University is witness to the indomitable determination of the Negro American to win his way in American life."​

Bullshit. One generation is all it takes. And it only takes one generation to make things worse.
A black was potus. Blacks in PG County, MD, own homes most midwestern whites can’t afford.
50% of blacks in my midwestern town are on drugs and welfare. That’s democrat cultural legacy.

My grandfather was a Tuskegee Airman. He along with the rest of the Airmen had all of the requisite skills required to leave the military and pursue a successful and lucrative career as commercial airlines pilots had he lived, however it was almost 20 years between the end of WWII and the time that the airlines finally allowed an African American pilot to fly for them. And don't think it was a cakewalk just because they finally got their foot in the door mid 1960s.

No one has the right to tell another human being that they should be satisfied with less in life and should be doing much better with what crumbs the white ruling class in America threw at them.

It doesn't matter how many generations pass, if you don't have the capital to build up or can't acquire it. It was forbidden for blacks to own property and written into the deeds that the white property owners could not sell to black people. Real estate is one of the best ways to generate wealth but how were we supposed to do that when white society wouldn't allow it?

The only bullshit here is the condescending and arrogant attitude of those white racists who view black people as wayward children and refuse to accept let alone acknowledge what members of their race did to create the situation we have always lived with. And this is just one facet of living in a country that is hostile to people who are not white.

PREACH!!

 

[IM2]

do have a right to resist an unlawful arrest. Before long everyone will understand that. Its why the founders incorporated the 2nd Amendment.

You’d better not take that advice. Resisting arrest is itself a crime. FU and your second amendment. It has no place when it comes to a cop performing his duty. You’d better not resist by producing a weapon. Terrible post. The time to resist any arrest is by filing a complaint or instituting a suit after the fact. You’re giving stupid advice.

Resisting an illegal arrest is not a crime. Yes forever the cops would arrest you for that but when we have proof that the arrest was not lawful the charges get dropped. We are going to stop that practice. The cops are going to learn what they can and what they can not do or they are going to continue to lose their jobs.

Poor people can not afford to file lawsuits. I have never understood those who believe that paying people millions and millions dollars a year in settlements is a better system than proper police training.

Animal---not bright enough to know that you are forcing the US to make a choice to either allow criminals and their supporters to terrorize cops and their communities as you suggest or to go back to common sense---if you resist arrest, you should expect to be shot.

Resisting arrest is a crime idgit-----and sorry but all of these cases that blm keep putting are up are cases of violent criminals resisting lawful arrests------think you have been unfairly arrested, tell it to the judge. Refuse to be arrested, get shot.

Who taught you (erroneously) that you can shoot someone for simply committing a crime or resisting arrest? Because neither is true.

Cops have to meet the same standards as anyone else, they must have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury based on a totality of the circumstances before they are legally justified in using lethal force.
Now cops often do get the benefit of the doubt a lot more often than private citizens do, but I don't know any realistic way to change that dynamic.
Humans are wired to root for their own team.

Well that's a problem then because this isn't a teams situation although there certainly is a lot of mindless group think going on.

And while I understand what you're saying, no one should be subjected to a violation of their civil rights up to being physically brutalized and/or killed, due to personality defects, character flaws or other mental defects of some of people working as police officers who have the legal right to curtail your freedom or your life even when they are in the wrong, with there seldom being consequences. The likelihood of this happening to black people and other minorities is higher simply because police officers erroneously believe that black people commit more criminal offenses.

Black people do commit more criminal offenses.
And cops know this.
I've been an outlaw around cops for a long time and I have plenty of bad experiences with them under my belt, or narrowly avoided, and I just don't think hardly any of them are racists. They have a real tendency to bully people, but I don't think it's racial. The last cop I ran into that I got a racist vibe off of was a Harris County Sheriff's Deputy who gave me a ticket with a big side serving of shitty attitude, a few months back. Refused to give up his business card, too. He was black, and I look just like that peckerwood that your grandma still has nightmares about. So maybe he was a racist...... maybe. Maybe he was just an asshole. Hell, maybe he was a good guy having a shitty day.
I'm still going to fight the ticket, either way.

That's the thing, every group has their assholes no one is denying that but the powers that be have you all believing that black people are more criminally inclined by nature than whites therefore commit more crime and that's simply is not true.

White supremacist created the system under which we live and they created to give white citizens every advantage possible while exploiting and abusing the black population. They control the narrative and as we see every day on this message board, their propaganda continues to work to this day.

I'm not the kind of person who simply believes everything that I'm told. I've always liked to do my own research and the actual data does not support the assertion that blacks commit more crimes than whites. Our current law enforcement agencies and systems originated from the slave patrols and were created to control and punish black people. When they evolved from slave patrols to law enforcement it was in order to protect white businesses and property owners from blacks and poor whites. Because the white ruling class was in control of everything they passed laws that specifically applied to black people and disproportionately impacted black people in a negative way. And you have to remember, the black people we're speaking of had gone from captivity to allegedly becoming free members of society but with no inherent knowledge or education on how to navigate that system, all while being the target of schemes and other legal maneuvering designed to exploit and oftentimes profit off of their disadvantaged status.

If they were willing to do all of this, you think they'd balk at lying and manufacturing statistics that show white citizens in a positive light and black people eternally in the negative lights we've always be portrayed as?

I wrote this yesterday in response to Beagle9. It talks about the racist roots of gun control and the convict leasing system that served as a substitution for outright slavery for many black people.
CDZ - What's more important, gun's and ammo or PRIVACY ??

Bullshit.
For well over 50 years, blacks have had every opportunity — and then some — to generate a living and a future.
Black social demise has been a result of depleted family structure and democrats perpetuating that and the victim culture.

Well over 50 years out of 324 years in which blacks were either held in captivity or living under Jim Crow/racial segregation as compared to whites? That's not enough time for anyone to catch up with all other things being equal which it definitely has not been because the only thing that changed with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was putting it on paper that racial discrimination was not longer lawful however it did nothing to change the hearts and minds of the racist population as evidenced by the continued hate crimes and civil rights cases being litigated today in 2020. You can't create generational wealth without sufficient time to both acquire it and pass it down.

President Johnson knew that the passage of the Civil Rights Act was just the first step. He addressed the graduating class of Howard during that time with the following (in part):

"In far too many ways American Negroes have been another nation: deprived of freedom, crippled by hatred, the doors of opportunity closed to hope.​

In our time change has come to this Nation, too. The American Negro, acting with impressive restraint, has peacefully protested and marched, entered the courtrooms and the seats of government, demanding a justice that has long been denied. The voice of the Negro was the call to action. But it is a tribute to America that, once aroused, the courts and the Congress, the President and most of the people, have been the allies of progress.​

​

Thus we have seen the high court of the country declare that discrimination based on race was repugnant to the Constitution, and therefore void. We have seen in 1957, and 1960, and again in 1964, the first civil rights legislation in this Nation in almost an entire century.​

​

As majority leader of the United States Senate, I helped to guide two of these bills through the Senate. And, as your President, I was proud to sign the third. And now very soon we will have the fourth – a new law guaranteeing every American the right to vote​

​

No act of my entire administration will give me greater satisfaction than the day when my signature makes this bill, too, the law of this land.​

​

The voting rights bill will be the latest, and among the most important, in a long series of victories. But this victory – as Winston Churchill said of another triumph for freedom – “is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”​

​

That beginning is freedom; and the barriers to that freedom are tumbling down. Freedom is the right to share, share fully and equally, in American society – to vote, to hold a job, to enter a public place, to go to school. It is the right to be treated in every part of our national life as a person equal in dignity and promise to all others.​

​

But freedom is not enough. You do not wipe away the scars of centuries by saying: Now you are free to go where you want, and do as you desire, and choose the leaders you please.​

​

You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say, “you are free to compete with all the others,” and still justly believe that you have been completely fair.​

​

Thus it is not enough just to open the gates of opportunity. All our citizens must have the ability to walk through those gates.​

​

This is the next and the more profound stage of the battle for civil rights. We seek not just freedom but opportunity. We seek not just legal equity but human ability, not just equality as a right and a theory but equality as a fact and equality as a result.​

​

For the task is to give 20 million Negroes the same chance as every other American to learn and grow, to work and share in society, to develop their abilities – physical, mental and spiritual, and to pursue their individual happiness.​

​

To this end equal opportunity is essential, but not enough, not enough. Men and women of all races are born with the same range of abilities. But ability is not just the product of birth. Ability is stretched or stunted by the family that you live with, and the neighborhood you live in – by the school you go to and the poverty or the richness of your surroundings. It is the product of a hundred unseen forces playing upon the little infant, the child, and finally the man.​

​

This graduating class at Howard University is witness to the indomitable determination of the Negro American to win his way in American life."​

Bullshit. One generation is all it takes. And it only takes one generation to make things worse.
A black was potus. Blacks in PG County, MD, own homes most midwestern whites can’t afford.
50% of blacks in my midwestern town are on drugs and welfare. That’s democrat cultural legacy.

My grandfather was a Tuskegee Airman. He along with the rest of the Airmen had all of the requisite skills required to leave the military and pursue a successful and lucrative career as commercial airlines pilots had he lived, however it was almost 20 years between the end of WWII and the time that the airlines finally allowed an African American pilot to fly for them. And don't think it was a cakewalk just because they finally got their foot in the door mid 1960s.

No one has the right to tell another human being that they should be satisfied with less in life and should be doing much better with what crumbs the white ruling class in America threw at them.

It doesn't matter how many generations pass, if you don't have the capital to build up or can't acquire it. It was forbidden for blacks to own property and written into the deeds that the white property owners could not sell to black people. Real estate is one of the best ways to generate wealth but how were we supposed to do that when white society wouldn't allow it?

The only bullshit here is the condescending and arrogant attitude of those white racists who view black people as wayward children and refuse to accept let alone acknowledge what members of their race did to create the situation we have always lived with. And this is just one facet of living in a country that is hostile to people who are not white.

The 1960’s were over 50 years ago.
Get over it.

And the same things happen now.

50 years after the Kerner Commission
African Americans are better off in many ways but are still disadvantaged by racial inequality
Report • By Janelle Jones, John Schmitt, and Valerie Wilson • February 26, 2018

50 years after the Kerner Commission: African Americans are better off in many ways but are still disadvantaged by racial inequality

The 1968 Kerner Commission report pulled together a comprehensive array of data on the specific economic and social inequities confronting African Americans at that time. How have things changed (or not) for black Americans in the 50 years since?

www.epi.org

On October 24, 2013, the Kellogg Foundation sent out a press release about a report they had done entitled, “The Business Case for Racial Equity”. This was a study done by the Kellogg Foundation, using information it had studied and assessed from the Center for American Progress, National Urban League Policy Institute, Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies and the U.S. Department of Justice.

“Striving for racial equity – a world where race is no longer a factor in the distribution of opportunity – is a matter of social justice. But moving toward racial equity can generate significant economic returns as well. When people face barriers to achieving their full potential, the loss of talent, creativity, energy, and productivity is a burden not only for those disadvantaged, but for communities, businesses, governments, and the economy as a whole. Initial research on the magnitude of this burden in the United States (U.S.), as highlighted in this brief, reveals impacts in the trillions of dollars in lost earnings, avoidable public expenditures, and lost economic output.”

The Kellogg Foundation and Altarum Institute​

In 2011, DEMOS did a study named “The Racial Wealth Gap, Why Policy Matters”, which discussed the racial wealth gap, the problems associated with it along with solutions and outcomes if the gap did not exist. In this study DEMOS determined that the racial wealth gap was primarily driven by policy decisions.

“The U.S. racial wealth gap is substantial and is driven by public policy decisions. According to our analysis of the SIPP data, in 2011 the median white household had $111,146 in wealth holdings, compared to just $7,113 for the median Black household and $8,348 for the median Latino household. From the continuing impact of redlining on American homeownership to the retreat from desegregation in public education, public policy has shaped these disparities, leaving them impossible to overcome without racially-aware policy change.”

These are facts. Your dumb ass white racist opinion is irrelevant in this regard.

So get over that. Because the way things are going, you don't have a choice.

 

[IM2]

do have a right to resist an unlawful arrest. Before long everyone will understand that. Its why the founders incorporated the 2nd Amendment.

You’d better not take that advice. Resisting arrest is itself a crime. FU and your second amendment. It has no place when it comes to a cop performing his duty. You’d better not resist by producing a weapon. Terrible post. The time to resist any arrest is by filing a complaint or instituting a suit after the fact. You’re giving stupid advice.

Resisting an illegal arrest is not a crime. Yes forever the cops would arrest you for that but when we have proof that the arrest was not lawful the charges get dropped. We are going to stop that practice. The cops are going to learn what they can and what they can not do or they are going to continue to lose their jobs.

Poor people can not afford to file lawsuits. I have never understood those who believe that paying people millions and millions dollars a year in settlements is a better system than proper police training.

Animal---not bright enough to know that you are forcing the US to make a choice to either allow criminals and their supporters to terrorize cops and their communities as you suggest or to go back to common sense---if you resist arrest, you should expect to be shot.

Resisting arrest is a crime idgit-----and sorry but all of these cases that blm keep putting are up are cases of violent criminals resisting lawful arrests------think you have been unfairly arrested, tell it to the judge. Refuse to be arrested, get shot.

Who taught you (erroneously) that you can shoot someone for simply committing a crime or resisting arrest? Because neither is true.

Cops have to meet the same standards as anyone else, they must have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury based on a totality of the circumstances before they are legally justified in using lethal force.
Now cops often do get the benefit of the doubt a lot more often than private citizens do, but I don't know any realistic way to change that dynamic.
Humans are wired to root for their own team.

Well that's a problem then because this isn't a teams situation although there certainly is a lot of mindless group think going on.

And while I understand what you're saying, no one should be subjected to a violation of their civil rights up to being physically brutalized and/or killed, due to personality defects, character flaws or other mental defects of some of people working as police officers who have the legal right to curtail your freedom or your life even when they are in the wrong, with there seldom being consequences. The likelihood of this happening to black people and other minorities is higher simply because police officers erroneously believe that black people commit more criminal offenses.

Black people do commit more criminal offenses.
And cops know this.
I've been an outlaw around cops for a long time and I have plenty of bad experiences with them under my belt, or narrowly avoided, and I just don't think hardly any of them are racists. They have a real tendency to bully people, but I don't think it's racial. The last cop I ran into that I got a racist vibe off of was a Harris County Sheriff's Deputy who gave me a ticket with a big side serving of shitty attitude, a few months back. Refused to give up his business card, too. He was black, and I look just like that peckerwood that your grandma still has nightmares about. So maybe he was a racist...... maybe. Maybe he was just an asshole. Hell, maybe he was a good guy having a shitty day.
I'm still going to fight the ticket, either way.

That's the thing, every group has their assholes no one is denying that but the powers that be have you all believing that black people are more criminally inclined by nature than whites therefore commit more crime and that's simply is not true.

White supremacist created the system under which we live and they created to give white citizens every advantage possible while exploiting and abusing the black population. They control the narrative and as we see every day on this message board, their propaganda continues to work to this day.

I'm not the kind of person who simply believes everything that I'm told. I've always liked to do my own research and the actual data does not support the assertion that blacks commit more crimes than whites. Our current law enforcement agencies and systems originated from the slave patrols and were created to control and punish black people. When they evolved from slave patrols to law enforcement it was in order to protect white businesses and property owners from blacks and poor whites. Because the white ruling class was in control of everything they passed laws that specifically applied to black people and disproportionately impacted black people in a negative way. And you have to remember, the black people we're speaking of had gone from captivity to allegedly becoming free members of society but with no inherent knowledge or education on how to navigate that system, all while being the target of schemes and other legal maneuvering designed to exploit and oftentimes profit off of their disadvantaged status.

If they were willing to do all of this, you think they'd balk at lying and manufacturing statistics that show white citizens in a positive light and black people eternally in the negative lights we've always be portrayed as?

I wrote this yesterday in response to Beagle9. It talks about the racist roots of gun control and the convict leasing system that served as a substitution for outright slavery for many black people.
CDZ - What's more important, gun's and ammo or PRIVACY ??

Bullshit.
For well over 50 years, blacks have had every opportunity — and then some — to generate a living and a future.
Black social demise has been a result of depleted family structure and democrats perpetuating that and the victim culture.

Well over 50 years out of 324 years in which blacks were either held in captivity or living under Jim Crow/racial segregation as compared to whites? That's not enough time for anyone to catch up with all other things being equal which it definitely has not been because the only thing that changed with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was putting it on paper that racial discrimination was not longer lawful however it did nothing to change the hearts and minds of the racist population as evidenced by the continued hate crimes and civil rights cases being litigated today in 2020. You can't create generational wealth without sufficient time to both acquire it and pass it down.

President Johnson knew that the passage of the Civil Rights Act was just the first step. He addressed the graduating class of Howard during that time with the following (in part):

"In far too many ways American Negroes have been another nation: deprived of freedom, crippled by hatred, the doors of opportunity closed to hope.​

In our time change has come to this Nation, too. The American Negro, acting with impressive restraint, has peacefully protested and marched, entered the courtrooms and the seats of government, demanding a justice that has long been denied. The voice of the Negro was the call to action. But it is a tribute to America that, once aroused, the courts and the Congress, the President and most of the people, have been the allies of progress.​

​

Thus we have seen the high court of the country declare that discrimination based on race was repugnant to the Constitution, and therefore void. We have seen in 1957, and 1960, and again in 1964, the first civil rights legislation in this Nation in almost an entire century.​

​

As majority leader of the United States Senate, I helped to guide two of these bills through the Senate. And, as your President, I was proud to sign the third. And now very soon we will have the fourth – a new law guaranteeing every American the right to vote​

​

No act of my entire administration will give me greater satisfaction than the day when my signature makes this bill, too, the law of this land.​

​

The voting rights bill will be the latest, and among the most important, in a long series of victories. But this victory – as Winston Churchill said of another triumph for freedom – “is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”​

​

That beginning is freedom; and the barriers to that freedom are tumbling down. Freedom is the right to share, share fully and equally, in American society – to vote, to hold a job, to enter a public place, to go to school. It is the right to be treated in every part of our national life as a person equal in dignity and promise to all others.​

​

But freedom is not enough. You do not wipe away the scars of centuries by saying: Now you are free to go where you want, and do as you desire, and choose the leaders you please.​

​

You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say, “you are free to compete with all the others,” and still justly believe that you have been completely fair.​

​

Thus it is not enough just to open the gates of opportunity. All our citizens must have the ability to walk through those gates.​

​

This is the next and the more profound stage of the battle for civil rights. We seek not just freedom but opportunity. We seek not just legal equity but human ability, not just equality as a right and a theory but equality as a fact and equality as a result.​

​

For the task is to give 20 million Negroes the same chance as every other American to learn and grow, to work and share in society, to develop their abilities – physical, mental and spiritual, and to pursue their individual happiness.​

​

To this end equal opportunity is essential, but not enough, not enough. Men and women of all races are born with the same range of abilities. But ability is not just the product of birth. Ability is stretched or stunted by the family that you live with, and the neighborhood you live in – by the school you go to and the poverty or the richness of your surroundings. It is the product of a hundred unseen forces playing upon the little infant, the child, and finally the man.​

​

This graduating class at Howard University is witness to the indomitable determination of the Negro American to win his way in American life."​

Bullshit. One generation is all it takes. And it only takes one generation to make things worse.
A black was potus. Blacks in PG County, MD, own homes most midwestern whites can’t afford.
50% of blacks in my midwestern town are on drugs and welfare. That’s democrat cultural legacy.

My grandfather was a Tuskegee Airman. He along with the rest of the Airmen had all of the requisite skills required to leave the military and pursue a successful and lucrative career as commercial airlines pilots had he lived, however it was almost 20 years between the end of WWII and the time that the airlines finally allowed an African American pilot to fly for them. And don't think it was a cakewalk just because they finally got their foot in the door mid 1960s.

No one has the right to tell another human being that they should be satisfied with less in life and should be doing much better with what crumbs the white ruling class in America threw at them.

It doesn't matter how many generations pass, if you don't have the capital to build up or can't acquire it. It was forbidden for blacks to own property and written into the deeds that the white property owners could not sell to black people. Real estate is one of the best ways to generate wealth but how were we supposed to do that when white society wouldn't allow it?

The only bullshit here is the condescending and arrogant attitude of those white racists who view black people as wayward children and refuse to accept let alone acknowledge what members of their race did to create the situation we have always lived with. And this is just one facet of living in a country that is hostile to people who are not white.

The 1960’s were over 50 years ago.
Get over it.

That’s where they live, 50-150 years ago and trying to apply today’s more advanced mores on back then and punish people today for back then using the methodology
The are not forward thinking At All, just bitter condemnation for long ago and faking that it’s here and now.

We're living in todays reality son. Unlike you we don't pretend.

You still live in the 1700's. That's when the constitution you want us to worship was made. So lie to yourself but don't try that shit here.

 

[WEATHER53]

do have a right to resist an unlawful arrest. Before long everyone will understand that. Its why the founders incorporated the 2nd Amendment.

You’d better not take that advice. Resisting arrest is itself a crime. FU and your second amendment. It has no place when it comes to a cop performing his duty. You’d better not resist by producing a weapon. Terrible post. The time to resist any arrest is by filing a complaint or instituting a suit after the fact. You’re giving stupid advice.

Resisting an illegal arrest is not a crime. Yes forever the cops would arrest you for that but when we have proof that the arrest was not lawful the charges get dropped. We are going to stop that practice. The cops are going to learn what they can and what they can not do or they are going to continue to lose their jobs.

Poor people can not afford to file lawsuits. I have never understood those who believe that paying people millions and millions dollars a year in settlements is a better system than proper police training.

Animal---not bright enough to know that you are forcing the US to make a choice to either allow criminals and their supporters to terrorize cops and their communities as you suggest or to go back to common sense---if you resist arrest, you should expect to be shot.

Resisting arrest is a crime idgit-----and sorry but all of these cases that blm keep putting are up are cases of violent criminals resisting lawful arrests------think you have been unfairly arrested, tell it to the judge. Refuse to be arrested, get shot.

Who taught you (erroneously) that you can shoot someone for simply committing a crime or resisting arrest? Because neither is true.

Cops have to meet the same standards as anyone else, they must have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury based on a totality of the circumstances before they are legally justified in using lethal force.
Now cops often do get the benefit of the doubt a lot more often than private citizens do, but I don't know any realistic way to change that dynamic.
Humans are wired to root for their own team.

Well that's a problem then because this isn't a teams situation although there certainly is a lot of mindless group think going on.

And while I understand what you're saying, no one should be subjected to a violation of their civil rights up to being physically brutalized and/or killed, due to personality defects, character flaws or other mental defects of some of people working as police officers who have the legal right to curtail your freedom or your life even when they are in the wrong, with there seldom being consequences. The likelihood of this happening to black people and other minorities is higher simply because police officers erroneously believe that black people commit more criminal offenses.

Black people do commit more criminal offenses.
And cops know this.
I've been an outlaw around cops for a long time and I have plenty of bad experiences with them under my belt, or narrowly avoided, and I just don't think hardly any of them are racists. They have a real tendency to bully people, but I don't think it's racial. The last cop I ran into that I got a racist vibe off of was a Harris County Sheriff's Deputy who gave me a ticket with a big side serving of shitty attitude, a few months back. Refused to give up his business card, too. He was black, and I look just like that peckerwood that your grandma still has nightmares about. So maybe he was a racist...... maybe. Maybe he was just an asshole. Hell, maybe he was a good guy having a shitty day.
I'm still going to fight the ticket, either way.

That's the thing, every group has their assholes no one is denying that but the powers that be have you all believing that black people are more criminally inclined by nature than whites therefore commit more crime and that's simply is not true.

White supremacist created the system under which we live and they created to give white citizens every advantage possible while exploiting and abusing the black population. They control the narrative and as we see every day on this message board, their propaganda continues to work to this day.

I'm not the kind of person who simply believes everything that I'm told. I've always liked to do my own research and the actual data does not support the assertion that blacks commit more crimes than whites. Our current law enforcement agencies and systems originated from the slave patrols and were created to control and punish black people. When they evolved from slave patrols to law enforcement it was in order to protect white businesses and property owners from blacks and poor whites. Because the white ruling class was in control of everything they passed laws that specifically applied to black people and disproportionately impacted black people in a negative way. And you have to remember, the black people we're speaking of had gone from captivity to allegedly becoming free members of society but with no inherent knowledge or education on how to navigate that system, all while being the target of schemes and other legal maneuvering designed to exploit and oftentimes profit off of their disadvantaged status.

If they were willing to do all of this, you think they'd balk at lying and manufacturing statistics that show white citizens in a positive light and black people eternally in the negative lights we've always be portrayed as?

I wrote this yesterday in response to Beagle9. It talks about the racist roots of gun control and the convict leasing system that served as a substitution for outright slavery for many black people.
CDZ - What's more important, gun's and ammo or PRIVACY ??

Bullshit.
For well over 50 years, blacks have had every opportunity — and then some — to generate a living and a future.
Black social demise has been a result of depleted family structure and democrats perpetuating that and the victim culture.

Well over 50 years out of 324 years in which blacks were either held in captivity or living under Jim Crow/racial segregation as compared to whites? That's not enough time for anyone to catch up with all other things being equal which it definitely has not been because the only thing that changed with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was putting it on paper that racial discrimination was not longer lawful however it did nothing to change the hearts and minds of the racist population as evidenced by the continued hate crimes and civil rights cases being litigated today in 2020. You can't create generational wealth without sufficient time to both acquire it and pass it down.

President Johnson knew that the passage of the Civil Rights Act was just the first step. He addressed the graduating class of Howard during that time with the following (in part):

"In far too many ways American Negroes have been another nation: deprived of freedom, crippled by hatred, the doors of opportunity closed to hope.​

In our time change has come to this Nation, too. The American Negro, acting with impressive restraint, has peacefully protested and marched, entered the courtrooms and the seats of government, demanding a justice that has long been denied. The voice of the Negro was the call to action. But it is a tribute to America that, once aroused, the courts and the Congress, the President and most of the people, have been the allies of progress.​

​

Thus we have seen the high court of the country declare that discrimination based on race was repugnant to the Constitution, and therefore void. We have seen in 1957, and 1960, and again in 1964, the first civil rights legislation in this Nation in almost an entire century.​

​

As majority leader of the United States Senate, I helped to guide two of these bills through the Senate. And, as your President, I was proud to sign the third. And now very soon we will have the fourth – a new law guaranteeing every American the right to vote​

​

No act of my entire administration will give me greater satisfaction than the day when my signature makes this bill, too, the law of this land.​

​

The voting rights bill will be the latest, and among the most important, in a long series of victories. But this victory – as Winston Churchill said of another triumph for freedom – “is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”​

​

That beginning is freedom; and the barriers to that freedom are tumbling down. Freedom is the right to share, share fully and equally, in American society – to vote, to hold a job, to enter a public place, to go to school. It is the right to be treated in every part of our national life as a person equal in dignity and promise to all others.​

​

But freedom is not enough. You do not wipe away the scars of centuries by saying: Now you are free to go where you want, and do as you desire, and choose the leaders you please.​

​

You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say, “you are free to compete with all the others,” and still justly believe that you have been completely fair.​

​

Thus it is not enough just to open the gates of opportunity. All our citizens must have the ability to walk through those gates.​

​

This is the next and the more profound stage of the battle for civil rights. We seek not just freedom but opportunity. We seek not just legal equity but human ability, not just equality as a right and a theory but equality as a fact and equality as a result.​

​

For the task is to give 20 million Negroes the same chance as every other American to learn and grow, to work and share in society, to develop their abilities – physical, mental and spiritual, and to pursue their individual happiness.​

​

To this end equal opportunity is essential, but not enough, not enough. Men and women of all races are born with the same range of abilities. But ability is not just the product of birth. Ability is stretched or stunted by the family that you live with, and the neighborhood you live in – by the school you go to and the poverty or the richness of your surroundings. It is the product of a hundred unseen forces playing upon the little infant, the child, and finally the man.​

​

This graduating class at Howard University is witness to the indomitable determination of the Negro American to win his way in American life."​

Bullshit. One generation is all it takes. And it only takes one generation to make things worse.
A black was potus. Blacks in PG County, MD, own homes most midwestern whites can’t afford.
50% of blacks in my midwestern town are on drugs and welfare. That’s democrat cultural legacy.

My grandfather was a Tuskegee Airman. He along with the rest of the Airmen had all of the requisite skills required to leave the military and pursue a successful and lucrative career as commercial airlines pilots had he lived, however it was almost 20 years between the end of WWII and the time that the airlines finally allowed an African American pilot to fly for them. And don't think it was a cakewalk just because they finally got their foot in the door mid 1960s.

No one has the right to tell another human being that they should be satisfied with less in life and should be doing much better with what crumbs the white ruling class in America threw at them.

It doesn't matter how many generations pass, if you don't have the capital to build up or can't acquire it. It was forbidden for blacks to own property and written into the deeds that the white property owners could not sell to black people. Real estate is one of the best ways to generate wealth but how were we supposed to do that when white society wouldn't allow it?

The only bullshit here is the condescending and arrogant attitude of those white racists who view black people as wayward children and refuse to accept let alone acknowledge what members of their race did to create the situation we have always lived with. And this is just one facet of living in a country that is hostile to people who are not white.

The 1960’s were over 50 years ago.
Get over it.

That’s where they live, 50-150 years ago and trying to apply today’s more advanced mores on back then and punish people today for back then using the methodology
The are not forward thinking At All, just bitter condemnation for long ago and faking that it’s here and now.

We're living in todays reality son. Unlike you we don't pretend.

You still live in the 1700's. That's when the constitution you want us to worship was made. So lie to yourself but don't try that shit here.

It’s Lib101 trick to restate what I stated and try to apply it on me
It’s a surrender and admission of no original thought nor rebuttal
And Mr Colored Guy, I’m not your son and no son to you but in fact vastly superior due to all my hard earned and accumulated privledges

 

[IM2]

..... For example, whites committed 12,794 rapes. Blacks 5,376. Blacks committed less than half the number of rapes as whites. .....

.... and ......

..... From YOUR source, blacks commit MORE MURDERS and MORE ROBBERIES than whites.

Ho-hum. Talk about boring. I'll bet that if you tally all of the automobile accidents during any month you will find that either more dark or more light cars are involved. So why are Americans so flipped out about crime statistics broken down by race? Americans are so f-ing stupid. They argue for hours and days about how many crimes are committed by blacks or whites instead of arguing about why there are so many crimes in the U.S. and then doing something about it. Jesus! What a racist mentality!

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I don't know what country you live in but white racism is not just limited to America. It looks like you're from France, a nation that got kicked out of Haiti and the french government is still stealing from Africa, so let's not be condescending.

Lastly, this belief on race and crime has for a long time has been a matter of life or death for blacks in this country. Presenting the facts about race and crime is done in the hopes of ending the overincarceration and murders of blacks here in this country.

 

[Likkmee]

Dear God. Please let a couple other Nazis get shot in the head someplace else so the feline can close this never ending thread.

 

[IM2]

do have a right to resist an unlawful arrest. Before long everyone will understand that. Its why the founders incorporated the 2nd Amendment.

You’d better not take that advice. Resisting arrest is itself a crime. FU and your second amendment. It has no place when it comes to a cop performing his duty. You’d better not resist by producing a weapon. Terrible post. The time to resist any arrest is by filing a complaint or instituting a suit after the fact. You’re giving stupid advice.

Resisting an illegal arrest is not a crime. Yes forever the cops would arrest you for that but when we have proof that the arrest was not lawful the charges get dropped. We are going to stop that practice. The cops are going to learn what they can and what they can not do or they are going to continue to lose their jobs.

Poor people can not afford to file lawsuits. I have never understood those who believe that paying people millions and millions dollars a year in settlements is a better system than proper police training.

Animal---not bright enough to know that you are forcing the US to make a choice to either allow criminals and their supporters to terrorize cops and their communities as you suggest or to go back to common sense---if you resist arrest, you should expect to be shot.

Resisting arrest is a crime idgit-----and sorry but all of these cases that blm keep putting are up are cases of violent criminals resisting lawful arrests------think you have been unfairly arrested, tell it to the judge. Refuse to be arrested, get shot.

Who taught you (erroneously) that you can shoot someone for simply committing a crime or resisting arrest? Because neither is true.

Cops have to meet the same standards as anyone else, they must have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury based on a totality of the circumstances before they are legally justified in using lethal force.
Now cops often do get the benefit of the doubt a lot more often than private citizens do, but I don't know any realistic way to change that dynamic.
Humans are wired to root for their own team.

Well that's a problem then because this isn't a teams situation although there certainly is a lot of mindless group think going on.

And while I understand what you're saying, no one should be subjected to a violation of their civil rights up to being physically brutalized and/or killed, due to personality defects, character flaws or other mental defects of some of people working as police officers who have the legal right to curtail your freedom or your life even when they are in the wrong, with there seldom being consequences. The likelihood of this happening to black people and other minorities is higher simply because police officers erroneously believe that black people commit more criminal offenses.

Black people do commit more criminal offenses.
And cops know this.
I've been an outlaw around cops for a long time and I have plenty of bad experiences with them under my belt, or narrowly avoided, and I just don't think hardly any of them are racists. They have a real tendency to bully people, but I don't think it's racial. The last cop I ran into that I got a racist vibe off of was a Harris County Sheriff's Deputy who gave me a ticket with a big side serving of shitty attitude, a few months back. Refused to give up his business card, too. He was black, and I look just like that peckerwood that your grandma still has nightmares about. So maybe he was a racist...... maybe. Maybe he was just an asshole. Hell, maybe he was a good guy having a shitty day.
I'm still going to fight the ticket, either way.

That's the thing, every group has their assholes no one is denying that but the powers that be have you all believing that black people are more criminally inclined by nature than whites therefore commit more crime and that's simply is not true.

White supremacist created the system under which we live and they created to give white citizens every advantage possible while exploiting and abusing the black population. They control the narrative and as we see every day on this message board, their propaganda continues to work to this day.

I'm not the kind of person who simply believes everything that I'm told. I've always liked to do my own research and the actual data does not support the assertion that blacks commit more crimes than whites. Our current law enforcement agencies and systems originated from the slave patrols and were created to control and punish black people. When they evolved from slave patrols to law enforcement it was in order to protect white businesses and property owners from blacks and poor whites. Because the white ruling class was in control of everything they passed laws that specifically applied to black people and disproportionately impacted black people in a negative way. And you have to remember, the black people we're speaking of had gone from captivity to allegedly becoming free members of society but with no inherent knowledge or education on how to navigate that system, all while being the target of schemes and other legal maneuvering designed to exploit and oftentimes profit off of their disadvantaged status.

If they were willing to do all of this, you think they'd balk at lying and manufacturing statistics that show white citizens in a positive light and black people eternally in the negative lights we've always be portrayed as?

I wrote this yesterday in response to Beagle9. It talks about the racist roots of gun control and the convict leasing system that served as a substitution for outright slavery for many black people.
CDZ - What's more important, gun's and ammo or PRIVACY ??

Bullshit.
For well over 50 years, blacks have had every opportunity — and then some — to generate a living and a future.
Black social demise has been a result of depleted family structure and democrats perpetuating that and the victim culture.

Well over 50 years out of 324 years in which blacks were either held in captivity or living under Jim Crow/racial segregation as compared to whites? That's not enough time for anyone to catch up with all other things being equal which it definitely has not been because the only thing that changed with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was putting it on paper that racial discrimination was not longer lawful however it did nothing to change the hearts and minds of the racist population as evidenced by the continued hate crimes and civil rights cases being litigated today in 2020. You can't create generational wealth without sufficient time to both acquire it and pass it down.

President Johnson knew that the passage of the Civil Rights Act was just the first step. He addressed the graduating class of Howard during that time with the following (in part):

"In far too many ways American Negroes have been another nation: deprived of freedom, crippled by hatred, the doors of opportunity closed to hope.​

In our time change has come to this Nation, too. The American Negro, acting with impressive restraint, has peacefully protested and marched, entered the courtrooms and the seats of government, demanding a justice that has long been denied. The voice of the Negro was the call to action. But it is a tribute to America that, once aroused, the courts and the Congress, the President and most of the people, have been the allies of progress.​

​

Thus we have seen the high court of the country declare that discrimination based on race was repugnant to the Constitution, and therefore void. We have seen in 1957, and 1960, and again in 1964, the first civil rights legislation in this Nation in almost an entire century.​

​

As majority leader of the United States Senate, I helped to guide two of these bills through the Senate. And, as your President, I was proud to sign the third. And now very soon we will have the fourth – a new law guaranteeing every American the right to vote​

​

No act of my entire administration will give me greater satisfaction than the day when my signature makes this bill, too, the law of this land.​

​

The voting rights bill will be the latest, and among the most important, in a long series of victories. But this victory – as Winston Churchill said of another triumph for freedom – “is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”​

​

That beginning is freedom; and the barriers to that freedom are tumbling down. Freedom is the right to share, share fully and equally, in American society – to vote, to hold a job, to enter a public place, to go to school. It is the right to be treated in every part of our national life as a person equal in dignity and promise to all others.​

​

But freedom is not enough. You do not wipe away the scars of centuries by saying: Now you are free to go where you want, and do as you desire, and choose the leaders you please.​

​

You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say, “you are free to compete with all the others,” and still justly believe that you have been completely fair.​

​

Thus it is not enough just to open the gates of opportunity. All our citizens must have the ability to walk through those gates.​

​

This is the next and the more profound stage of the battle for civil rights. We seek not just freedom but opportunity. We seek not just legal equity but human ability, not just equality as a right and a theory but equality as a fact and equality as a result.​

​

For the task is to give 20 million Negroes the same chance as every other American to learn and grow, to work and share in society, to develop their abilities – physical, mental and spiritual, and to pursue their individual happiness.​

​

To this end equal opportunity is essential, but not enough, not enough. Men and women of all races are born with the same range of abilities. But ability is not just the product of birth. Ability is stretched or stunted by the family that you live with, and the neighborhood you live in – by the school you go to and the poverty or the richness of your surroundings. It is the product of a hundred unseen forces playing upon the little infant, the child, and finally the man.​

​

This graduating class at Howard University is witness to the indomitable determination of the Negro American to win his way in American life."​

Bullshit. One generation is all it takes. And it only takes one generation to make things worse.
A black was potus. Blacks in PG County, MD, own homes most midwestern whites can’t afford.
50% of blacks in my midwestern town are on drugs and welfare. That’s democrat cultural legacy.

My grandfather was a Tuskegee Airman. He along with the rest of the Airmen had all of the requisite skills required to leave the military and pursue a successful and lucrative career as commercial airlines pilots had he lived, however it was almost 20 years between the end of WWII and the time that the airlines finally allowed an African American pilot to fly for them. And don't think it was a cakewalk just because they finally got their foot in the door mid 1960s.

No one has the right to tell another human being that they should be satisfied with less in life and should be doing much better with what crumbs the white ruling class in America threw at them.

It doesn't matter how many generations pass, if you don't have the capital to build up or can't acquire it. It was forbidden for blacks to own property and written into the deeds that the white property owners could not sell to black people. Real estate is one of the best ways to generate wealth but how were we supposed to do that when white society wouldn't allow it?

The only bullshit here is the condescending and arrogant attitude of those white racists who view black people as wayward children and refuse to accept let alone acknowledge what members of their race did to create the situation we have always lived with. And this is just one facet of living in a country that is hostile to people who are not white.

The 1960’s were over 50 years ago.
Get over it.

That’s where they live, 50-150 years ago and trying to apply today’s more advanced mores on back then and punish people today for back then using the methodology
The are not forward thinking At All, just bitter condemnation for long ago and faking that it’s here and now.

We're living in todays reality son. Unlike you we don't pretend.

You still live in the 1700's. That's when the constitution you want us to worship was made. So lie to yourself but don't try that shit here.

It’s Lib101 trick to restate what I stated and try to apply it on me
It’s a surrender and admission of no original thought nor rebuttal
And Mr Colored Guy, I’m not your son and no son to you but in fact vastly superior due to all my hard earned and accumulated privledges

You will be son and junior as long as you repeat the silly bullshit that I responded to.

 

[Meathead]

You will be son and junior as long as you repeat the silly bullshit that I responded to.

And you will be boy for the very same reasons.

 

[Meathead]

You will be son and junior as long as you repeat the silly bullshit that I responded to.

And you will be "boy" for the very same reasons.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

do have a right to resist an unlawful arrest. Before long everyone will understand that. Its why the founders incorporated the 2nd Amendment.

You’d better not take that advice. Resisting arrest is itself a crime. FU and your second amendment. It has no place when it comes to a cop performing his duty. You’d better not resist by producing a weapon. Terrible post. The time to resist any arrest is by filing a complaint or instituting a suit after the fact. You’re giving stupid advice.

Resisting an illegal arrest is not a crime. Yes forever the cops would arrest you for that but when we have proof that the arrest was not lawful the charges get dropped. We are going to stop that practice. The cops are going to learn what they can and what they can not do or they are going to continue to lose their jobs.

Poor people can not afford to file lawsuits. I have never understood those who believe that paying people millions and millions dollars a year in settlements is a better system than proper police training.

Animal---not bright enough to know that you are forcing the US to make a choice to either allow criminals and their supporters to terrorize cops and their communities as you suggest or to go back to common sense---if you resist arrest, you should expect to be shot.

Resisting arrest is a crime idgit-----and sorry but all of these cases that blm keep putting are up are cases of violent criminals resisting lawful arrests------think you have been unfairly arrested, tell it to the judge. Refuse to be arrested, get shot.

Who taught you (erroneously) that you can shoot someone for simply committing a crime or resisting arrest? Because neither is true.

Cops have to meet the same standards as anyone else, they must have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury based on a totality of the circumstances before they are legally justified in using lethal force.
Now cops often do get the benefit of the doubt a lot more often than private citizens do, but I don't know any realistic way to change that dynamic.
Humans are wired to root for their own team.

Well that's a problem then because this isn't a teams situation although there certainly is a lot of mindless group think going on.

And while I understand what you're saying, no one should be subjected to a violation of their civil rights up to being physically brutalized and/or killed, due to personality defects, character flaws or other mental defects of some of people working as police officers who have the legal right to curtail your freedom or your life even when they are in the wrong, with there seldom being consequences. The likelihood of this happening to black people and other minorities is higher simply because police officers erroneously believe that black people commit more criminal offenses.

Black people do commit more criminal offenses.
And cops know this.
I've been an outlaw around cops for a long time and I have plenty of bad experiences with them under my belt, or narrowly avoided, and I just don't think hardly any of them are racists. They have a real tendency to bully people, but I don't think it's racial. The last cop I ran into that I got a racist vibe off of was a Harris County Sheriff's Deputy who gave me a ticket with a big side serving of shitty attitude, a few months back. Refused to give up his business card, too. He was black, and I look just like that peckerwood that your grandma still has nightmares about. So maybe he was a racist...... maybe. Maybe he was just an asshole. Hell, maybe he was a good guy having a shitty day.
I'm still going to fight the ticket, either way.

That's the thing, every group has their assholes no one is denying that but the powers that be have you all believing that black people are more criminally inclined by nature than whites therefore commit more crime and that's simply is not true.

White supremacist created the system under which we live and they created to give white citizens every advantage possible while exploiting and abusing the black population. They control the narrative and as we see every day on this message board, their propaganda continues to work to this day.

I'm not the kind of person who simply believes everything that I'm told. I've always liked to do my own research and the actual data does not support the assertion that blacks commit more crimes than whites. Our current law enforcement agencies and systems originated from the slave patrols and were created to control and punish black people. When they evolved from slave patrols to law enforcement it was in order to protect white businesses and property owners from blacks and poor whites. Because the white ruling class was in control of everything they passed laws that specifically applied to black people and disproportionately impacted black people in a negative way. And you have to remember, the black people we're speaking of had gone from captivity to allegedly becoming free members of society but with no inherent knowledge or education on how to navigate that system, all while being the target of schemes and other legal maneuvering designed to exploit and oftentimes profit off of their disadvantaged status.

If they were willing to do all of this, you think they'd balk at lying and manufacturing statistics that show white citizens in a positive light and black people eternally in the negative lights we've always be portrayed as?

I wrote this yesterday in response to Beagle9. It talks about the racist roots of gun control and the convict leasing system that served as a substitution for outright slavery for many black people.
CDZ - What's more important, gun's and ammo or PRIVACY ??

Bullshit.
For well over 50 years, blacks have had every opportunity — and then some — to generate a living and a future.
Black social demise has been a result of depleted family structure and democrats perpetuating that and the victim culture.

Well over 50 years out of 324 years in which blacks were either held in captivity or living under Jim Crow/racial segregation as compared to whites? That's not enough time for anyone to catch up with all other things being equal which it definitely has not been because the only thing that changed with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was putting it on paper that racial discrimination was not longer lawful however it did nothing to change the hearts and minds of the racist population as evidenced by the continued hate crimes and civil rights cases being litigated today in 2020. You can't create generational wealth without sufficient time to both acquire it and pass it down.

President Johnson knew that the passage of the Civil Rights Act was just the first step. He addressed the graduating class of Howard during that time with the following (in part):

"In far too many ways American Negroes have been another nation: deprived of freedom, crippled by hatred, the doors of opportunity closed to hope.​

In our time change has come to this Nation, too. The American Negro, acting with impressive restraint, has peacefully protested and marched, entered the courtrooms and the seats of government, demanding a justice that has long been denied. The voice of the Negro was the call to action. But it is a tribute to America that, once aroused, the courts and the Congress, the President and most of the people, have been the allies of progress.​

​

Thus we have seen the high court of the country declare that discrimination based on race was repugnant to the Constitution, and therefore void. We have seen in 1957, and 1960, and again in 1964, the first civil rights legislation in this Nation in almost an entire century.​

​

As majority leader of the United States Senate, I helped to guide two of these bills through the Senate. And, as your President, I was proud to sign the third. And now very soon we will have the fourth – a new law guaranteeing every American the right to vote​

​

No act of my entire administration will give me greater satisfaction than the day when my signature makes this bill, too, the law of this land.​

​

The voting rights bill will be the latest, and among the most important, in a long series of victories. But this victory – as Winston Churchill said of another triumph for freedom – “is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”​

​

That beginning is freedom; and the barriers to that freedom are tumbling down. Freedom is the right to share, share fully and equally, in American society – to vote, to hold a job, to enter a public place, to go to school. It is the right to be treated in every part of our national life as a person equal in dignity and promise to all others.​

​

But freedom is not enough. You do not wipe away the scars of centuries by saying: Now you are free to go where you want, and do as you desire, and choose the leaders you please.​

​

You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say, “you are free to compete with all the others,” and still justly believe that you have been completely fair.​

​

Thus it is not enough just to open the gates of opportunity. All our citizens must have the ability to walk through those gates.​

​

This is the next and the more profound stage of the battle for civil rights. We seek not just freedom but opportunity. We seek not just legal equity but human ability, not just equality as a right and a theory but equality as a fact and equality as a result.​

​

For the task is to give 20 million Negroes the same chance as every other American to learn and grow, to work and share in society, to develop their abilities – physical, mental and spiritual, and to pursue their individual happiness.​

​

To this end equal opportunity is essential, but not enough, not enough. Men and women of all races are born with the same range of abilities. But ability is not just the product of birth. Ability is stretched or stunted by the family that you live with, and the neighborhood you live in – by the school you go to and the poverty or the richness of your surroundings. It is the product of a hundred unseen forces playing upon the little infant, the child, and finally the man.​

​

This graduating class at Howard University is witness to the indomitable determination of the Negro American to win his way in American life."​

Bullshit. One generation is all it takes. And it only takes one generation to make things worse.
A black was potus. Blacks in PG County, MD, own homes most midwestern whites can’t afford.
50% of blacks in my midwestern town are on drugs and welfare. That’s democrat cultural legacy.

My grandfather was a Tuskegee Airman. He along with the rest of the Airmen had all of the requisite skills required to leave the military and pursue a successful and lucrative career as commercial airlines pilots had he lived, however it was almost 20 years between the end of WWII and the time that the airlines finally allowed an African American pilot to fly for them. And don't think it was a cakewalk just because they finally got their foot in the door mid 1960s.

No one has the right to tell another human being that they should be satisfied with less in life and should be doing much better with what crumbs the white ruling class in America threw at them.

It doesn't matter how many generations pass, if you don't have the capital to build up or can't acquire it. It was forbidden for blacks to own property and written into the deeds that the white property owners could not sell to black people. Real estate is one of the best ways to generate wealth but how were we supposed to do that when white society wouldn't allow it?

The only bullshit here is the condescending and arrogant attitude of those white racists who view black people as wayward children and refuse to accept let alone acknowledge what members of their race did to create the situation we have always lived with. And this is just one facet of living in a country that is hostile to people who are not white.

The 1960’s were over 50 years ago.
Get over it.

That’s where they live, 50-150 years ago and trying to apply today’s more advanced mores on back then and punish people today for back then using the methodology
The are not forward thinking At All, just bitter condemnation for long ago and faking that it’s here and now.

They know that you can’t honestly apply today’s standards to past eras. They do it because they’re bigoted and dishonest.

 

[WEATHER53]

do have a right to resist an unlawful arrest. Before long everyone will understand that. Its why the founders incorporated the 2nd Amendment.

You’d better not take that advice. Resisting arrest is itself a crime. FU and your second amendment. It has no place when it comes to a cop performing his duty. You’d better not resist by producing a weapon. Terrible post. The time to resist any arrest is by filing a complaint or instituting a suit after the fact. You’re giving stupid advice.

Resisting an illegal arrest is not a crime. Yes forever the cops would arrest you for that but when we have proof that the arrest was not lawful the charges get dropped. We are going to stop that practice. The cops are going to learn what they can and what they can not do or they are going to continue to lose their jobs.

Poor people can not afford to file lawsuits. I have never understood those who believe that paying people millions and millions dollars a year in settlements is a better system than proper police training.

Animal---not bright enough to know that you are forcing the US to make a choice to either allow criminals and their supporters to terrorize cops and their communities as you suggest or to go back to common sense---if you resist arrest, you should expect to be shot.

Resisting arrest is a crime idgit-----and sorry but all of these cases that blm keep putting are up are cases of violent criminals resisting lawful arrests------think you have been unfairly arrested, tell it to the judge. Refuse to be arrested, get shot.

Who taught you (erroneously) that you can shoot someone for simply committing a crime or resisting arrest? Because neither is true.

Cops have to meet the same standards as anyone else, they must have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury based on a totality of the circumstances before they are legally justified in using lethal force.
Now cops often do get the benefit of the doubt a lot more often than private citizens do, but I don't know any realistic way to change that dynamic.
Humans are wired to root for their own team.

Well that's a problem then because this isn't a teams situation although there certainly is a lot of mindless group think going on.

And while I understand what you're saying, no one should be subjected to a violation of their civil rights up to being physically brutalized and/or killed, due to personality defects, character flaws or other mental defects of some of people working as police officers who have the legal right to curtail your freedom or your life even when they are in the wrong, with there seldom being consequences. The likelihood of this happening to black people and other minorities is higher simply because police officers erroneously believe that black people commit more criminal offenses.

Black people do commit more criminal offenses.
And cops know this.
I've been an outlaw around cops for a long time and I have plenty of bad experiences with them under my belt, or narrowly avoided, and I just don't think hardly any of them are racists. They have a real tendency to bully people, but I don't think it's racial. The last cop I ran into that I got a racist vibe off of was a Harris County Sheriff's Deputy who gave me a ticket with a big side serving of shitty attitude, a few months back. Refused to give up his business card, too. He was black, and I look just like that peckerwood that your grandma still has nightmares about. So maybe he was a racist...... maybe. Maybe he was just an asshole. Hell, maybe he was a good guy having a shitty day.
I'm still going to fight the ticket, either way.

That's the thing, every group has their assholes no one is denying that but the powers that be have you all believing that black people are more criminally inclined by nature than whites therefore commit more crime and that's simply is not true.

White supremacist created the system under which we live and they created to give white citizens every advantage possible while exploiting and abusing the black population. They control the narrative and as we see every day on this message board, their propaganda continues to work to this day.

I'm not the kind of person who simply believes everything that I'm told. I've always liked to do my own research and the actual data does not support the assertion that blacks commit more crimes than whites. Our current law enforcement agencies and systems originated from the slave patrols and were created to control and punish black people. When they evolved from slave patrols to law enforcement it was in order to protect white businesses and property owners from blacks and poor whites. Because the white ruling class was in control of everything they passed laws that specifically applied to black people and disproportionately impacted black people in a negative way. And you have to remember, the black people we're speaking of had gone from captivity to allegedly becoming free members of society but with no inherent knowledge or education on how to navigate that system, all while being the target of schemes and other legal maneuvering designed to exploit and oftentimes profit off of their disadvantaged status.

If they were willing to do all of this, you think they'd balk at lying and manufacturing statistics that show white citizens in a positive light and black people eternally in the negative lights we've always be portrayed as?

I wrote this yesterday in response to Beagle9. It talks about the racist roots of gun control and the convict leasing system that served as a substitution for outright slavery for many black people.
CDZ - What's more important, gun's and ammo or PRIVACY ??

Bullshit.
For well over 50 years, blacks have had every opportunity — and then some — to generate a living and a future.
Black social demise has been a result of depleted family structure and democrats perpetuating that and the victim culture.

Well over 50 years out of 324 years in which blacks were either held in captivity or living under Jim Crow/racial segregation as compared to whites? That's not enough time for anyone to catch up with all other things being equal which it definitely has not been because the only thing that changed with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was putting it on paper that racial discrimination was not longer lawful however it did nothing to change the hearts and minds of the racist population as evidenced by the continued hate crimes and civil rights cases being litigated today in 2020. You can't create generational wealth without sufficient time to both acquire it and pass it down.

President Johnson knew that the passage of the Civil Rights Act was just the first step. He addressed the graduating class of Howard during that time with the following (in part):

"In far too many ways American Negroes have been another nation: deprived of freedom, crippled by hatred, the doors of opportunity closed to hope.​

In our time change has come to this Nation, too. The American Negro, acting with impressive restraint, has peacefully protested and marched, entered the courtrooms and the seats of government, demanding a justice that has long been denied. The voice of the Negro was the call to action. But it is a tribute to America that, once aroused, the courts and the Congress, the President and most of the people, have been the allies of progress.​

​

Thus we have seen the high court of the country declare that discrimination based on race was repugnant to the Constitution, and therefore void. We have seen in 1957, and 1960, and again in 1964, the first civil rights legislation in this Nation in almost an entire century.​

​

As majority leader of the United States Senate, I helped to guide two of these bills through the Senate. And, as your President, I was proud to sign the third. And now very soon we will have the fourth – a new law guaranteeing every American the right to vote​

​

No act of my entire administration will give me greater satisfaction than the day when my signature makes this bill, too, the law of this land.​

​

The voting rights bill will be the latest, and among the most important, in a long series of victories. But this victory – as Winston Churchill said of another triumph for freedom – “is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”​

​

That beginning is freedom; and the barriers to that freedom are tumbling down. Freedom is the right to share, share fully and equally, in American society – to vote, to hold a job, to enter a public place, to go to school. It is the right to be treated in every part of our national life as a person equal in dignity and promise to all others.​

​

But freedom is not enough. You do not wipe away the scars of centuries by saying: Now you are free to go where you want, and do as you desire, and choose the leaders you please.​

​

You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say, “you are free to compete with all the others,” and still justly believe that you have been completely fair.​

​

Thus it is not enough just to open the gates of opportunity. All our citizens must have the ability to walk through those gates.​

​

This is the next and the more profound stage of the battle for civil rights. We seek not just freedom but opportunity. We seek not just legal equity but human ability, not just equality as a right and a theory but equality as a fact and equality as a result.​

​

For the task is to give 20 million Negroes the same chance as every other American to learn and grow, to work and share in society, to develop their abilities – physical, mental and spiritual, and to pursue their individual happiness.​

​

To this end equal opportunity is essential, but not enough, not enough. Men and women of all races are born with the same range of abilities. But ability is not just the product of birth. Ability is stretched or stunted by the family that you live with, and the neighborhood you live in – by the school you go to and the poverty or the richness of your surroundings. It is the product of a hundred unseen forces playing upon the little infant, the child, and finally the man.​

​

This graduating class at Howard University is witness to the indomitable determination of the Negro American to win his way in American life."​

Bullshit. One generation is all it takes. And it only takes one generation to make things worse.
A black was potus. Blacks in PG County, MD, own homes most midwestern whites can’t afford.
50% of blacks in my midwestern town are on drugs and welfare. That’s democrat cultural legacy.

My grandfather was a Tuskegee Airman. He along with the rest of the Airmen had all of the requisite skills required to leave the military and pursue a successful and lucrative career as commercial airlines pilots had he lived, however it was almost 20 years between the end of WWII and the time that the airlines finally allowed an African American pilot to fly for them. And don't think it was a cakewalk just because they finally got their foot in the door mid 1960s.

No one has the right to tell another human being that they should be satisfied with less in life and should be doing much better with what crumbs the white ruling class in America threw at them.

It doesn't matter how many generations pass, if you don't have the capital to build up or can't acquire it. It was forbidden for blacks to own property and written into the deeds that the white property owners could not sell to black people. Real estate is one of the best ways to generate wealth but how were we supposed to do that when white society wouldn't allow it?

The only bullshit here is the condescending and arrogant attitude of those white racists who view black people as wayward children and refuse to accept let alone acknowledge what members of their race did to create the situation we have always lived with. And this is just one facet of living in a country that is hostile to people who are not white.

The 1960’s were over 50 years ago.
Get over it.

That’s where they live, 50-150 years ago and trying to apply today’s more advanced mores on back then and punish people today for back then using the methodology
The are not forward thinking At All, just bitter condemnation for long ago and faking that it’s here and now.

They know that you can’t honestly apply today’s standards to past eras. They do it because they’re bigoted and dishonest.

Unfortunately they do not “know” it because the fact nature of it interferes with finger pointing feelings.

 

[freyasman]

That woman got shot in the jaw. They released the radio chatter. You couldn't understand her when she keyed the mic and tried to talk because he shot a chunk of her jaw off.

That video of the officer and mother of a six year old child with blood from her jaw all over her while she was giving life support to the young officer made me cry.

She was so brave, and the shot of her arms that received when the assassin emptied his multiple shots made me wonder how she could carry on with the amount of blood she lost. She in my book deserves asilver star for her duty when severely wounded, putting all she had into getting emergency help and trying to keep him alive with a tournaquet while ignoring pain. I am praying a prayer for both of them as it is my vesper hour.

Bless all of you for your concern for our dear police who are in hsrd times right now.

Stop supporting police crime.

What crime did the cops commit sitting in their car together? The only crime I saw was, of course, committed by the black.

Don't even try it. Those 2 police are where they are because people like you all over America have supported crooked murdering cops in every department it happens in. Nearly 40 years ago the brutality of the CPD was chronicled:



And nothing has changed. Why do I say this? Because a couple of years ago a lifelong Compton resident said this:



And because of what cops have been doing, because turds like you cheer for each murder, 2 innocent peaceful cops got shot. The days of whites bullying us are over. It's been over for the last 55 years. So if you want to continue with your little fucked up white attitude, start to understand that either you change or this goes until hell freezes over. Your choice white man, tennis shoes or ice skates son.

So you support the killing of innocent white people in order to send a message that your type in character are fed up eh ???? That's the way it's gonna be ???

Innocent white people?!?

You know something about the two cops shot that we don't know ? And yes they were white, and by what we know so far they are innocent. Even if they aren't innocent, street justice is wrong period. I don't care who it is directed against. We have a justice system, and that system is what we rely on (all of us), so do you support vigilante justice ???

People are promoting street justice by the cops all the time.

That's bullcrap and you know it.... People of all colors are wanting the cop's to come back now and do their jobs. One thing about it, you can sit there in your seat running your mouth about this and about that, but what you can't stop is those who constantly make a fool out of you daily. Now get out there and preach some MLK for real peace, uh if that is what you truly want. Until then just keep being made a fool of by those you keep making excuses for.

Peace isn't up to me. It's up to those who call peaceful protesters SOB's and gas them.

Oh you mean those peaceful protestor's burning and looting ? You mean the ones that keep making a fool of you every night, and then become peaceful by day ??? Those protestor's ???

There have been over 11,000 protests, 25 million participants, 10,000 arrests. All the looting and rioting the government tells you is happening is not. This is.

White Vigilantes Have Always Had A Friend In Police

New data shows that far-right vigilantes, often with support from cops, have threatened protesters nearly 500 times since police killed George Floyd.

White vigilantes and far-right actors have shown up to oppose Black Lives Matter protests in the U.S. at least 497 times this year, according to data collected by Alexander Reid Ross, a doctoral fellow at the Center for Analysis of the Radical Right. He started gathering data on May 27, two days after police in Minneapolis killed George Floyd, and continued through this week.

The dataset, which Ross shared with HuffPost, documents a staggering amount of violence directed at protesters by the far-right, including 64 cases of simple assault, 38 incidents of vigilantes driving cars into demonstrators, and nine times shots were fired at protesters.

All told, six protesters were hit by vigilante bullets in this summer’s violence. Three died from their wounds.
Ross’ dataset also includes 387 incidents of intimidation, such as people using racist slurs, making threats and brandishing firearms.

“There just isn’t really anything to compare it to,” Ross told HuffPost. “I’ve never seen anything like this in my life.”

The data — which Ross gathered from social media posts, news reports and the ACLED US Crisis Monitor with help from Political Research Associates and the Institute for Research and Education on Human Rights — includes some harrowing tales of violence.

A U.S. Army sergeant, who had previously posted tweets about targeting Black Lives Matter activists, shot and killed a protester in Austin, Texas.

Black Lives Matter protesters marching through a rural part of Bedford County, Pennsylvania, say a white man opened fire on them at night, striking one protester in the face.

A man in Iowa City, Iowa, allegedly drove his car into a crowd of protesters and, according to a criminal complaint, later justified the attack by telling police the protesters needed “an attitude adjustment.”

The steady drumbeat of such stories this summer has coincided with story after story of cops and national guardsmen openly supporting or collaborating with fascists and white vigilantes.

Ross said his dataset includes about two dozen incidents of vigilantes receiving approval or support from law enforcement. A sheriff in Arizona, for example, announced he would form a “civilian posse” to help “suppress lawlessness” during a time of “widespread unrest.”

In California, a sheriff’s deputy was spotted wearing a “III Percenters” militia patch on his uniform while policing a protest. And in Portland, Oregon, cops let the neo-fascist gang the Proud Boys attack protesters in the streets.

Disturbing images also emerged of police cozying up to far-right activists: A cop in Georgia was photographed fist-bumping an armed militia member, and cops in Philadelphia posed for a friendly photo with vigilantes who roamed the city’s streets with baseball bats.
Still more stories emerged this summer of cops themselves relishing violence against protesters.

A police chief in Sioux Rapids, Iowa, was suspended for two weeks after writing a Facebook comment encouraging people to drive their cars through Black Lives Matter demonstrators.

“HIT THE GAS AND HANG ON FOR THE SPEED BUMPS,” he wrote.

And in Wilmington, North Carolina, three white police officers were fired after being caught on camera using racial slurs while discussing massacring Black protesters.

“We are just going to go out and start slaughtering them fucking N words,” one officer said.

“Wipe ’em off the fucking map,” the same officer said. “That’ll put ’em back about four or five generations.”

A report published this week by former FBI agent Mike German, now a fellow at New York University’s Brennan Center for Justice, documented how police ties to “white supremacist groups or far-right militant activities” have been uncovered in over a dozen states since 2000.

White Vigilantes Have Always Had A Friend In Police

New data shows that far-right vigilantes, often with support from cops, have threatened protesters nearly 500 times since police killed George Floyd.

www.huffpost.com

Oh horseshit.

It's true son. Man up and accept it. This is how it's always been throughout this countries history. Blacks protest, whites turn into angry mobs and start confrontations.

That ain't what's happening and you know it.

 

[freyasman]

do have a right to resist an unlawful arrest. Before long everyone will understand that. Its why the founders incorporated the 2nd Amendment.

You’d better not take that advice. Resisting arrest is itself a crime. FU and your second amendment. It has no place when it comes to a cop performing his duty. You’d better not resist by producing a weapon. Terrible post. The time to resist any arrest is by filing a complaint or instituting a suit after the fact. You’re giving stupid advice.

Resisting an illegal arrest is not a crime. Yes forever the cops would arrest you for that but when we have proof that the arrest was not lawful the charges get dropped. We are going to stop that practice. The cops are going to learn what they can and what they can not do or they are going to continue to lose their jobs.

Poor people can not afford to file lawsuits. I have never understood those who believe that paying people millions and millions dollars a year in settlements is a better system than proper police training.

Animal---not bright enough to know that you are forcing the US to make a choice to either allow criminals and their supporters to terrorize cops and their communities as you suggest or to go back to common sense---if you resist arrest, you should expect to be shot.

Resisting arrest is a crime idgit-----and sorry but all of these cases that blm keep putting are up are cases of violent criminals resisting lawful arrests------think you have been unfairly arrested, tell it to the judge. Refuse to be arrested, get shot.

Who taught you (erroneously) that you can shoot someone for simply committing a crime or resisting arrest? Because neither is true.

Cops have to meet the same standards as anyone else, they must have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily injury based on a totality of the circumstances before they are legally justified in using lethal force.
Now cops often do get the benefit of the doubt a lot more often than private citizens do, but I don't know any realistic way to change that dynamic.
Humans are wired to root for their own team.

Well that's a problem then because this isn't a teams situation although there certainly is a lot of mindless group think going on.

And while I understand what you're saying, no one should be subjected to a violation of their civil rights up to being physically brutalized and/or killed, due to personality defects, character flaws or other mental defects of some of people working as police officers who have the legal right to curtail your freedom or your life even when they are in the wrong, with there seldom being consequences. The likelihood of this happening to black people and other minorities is higher simply because police officers erroneously believe that black people commit more criminal offenses.

Black people do commit more criminal offenses.
And cops know this.
I've been an outlaw around cops for a long time and I have plenty of bad experiences with them under my belt, or narrowly avoided, and I just don't think hardly any of them are racists. They have a real tendency to bully people, but I don't think it's racial. The last cop I ran into that I got a racist vibe off of was a Harris County Sheriff's Deputy who gave me a ticket with a big side serving of shitty attitude, a few months back. Refused to give up his business card, too. He was black, and I look just like that peckerwood that your grandma still has nightmares about. So maybe he was a racist...... maybe. Maybe he was just an asshole. Hell, maybe he was a good guy having a shitty day.
I'm still going to fight the ticket, either way.

That's the thing, every group has their assholes no one is denying that but the powers that be have you all believing that black people are more criminally inclined by nature than whites therefore commit more crime and that's simply is not true.

White supremacist created the system under which we live and they created to give white citizens every advantage possible while exploiting and abusing the black population. They control the narrative and as we see every day on this message board, their propaganda continues to work to this day.

I'm not the kind of person who simply believes everything that I'm told. I've always liked to do my own research and the actual data does not support the assertion that blacks commit more crimes than whites. Our current law enforcement agencies and systems originated from the slave patrols and were created to control and punish black people. When they evolved from slave patrols to law enforcement it was in order to protect white businesses and property owners from blacks and poor whites. Because the white ruling class was in control of everything they passed laws that specifically applied to black people and disproportionately impacted black people in a negative way. And you have to remember, the black people we're speaking of had gone from captivity to allegedly becoming free members of society but with no inherent knowledge or education on how to navigate that system, all while being the target of schemes and other legal maneuvering designed to exploit and oftentimes profit off of their disadvantaged status.

If they were willing to do all of this, you think they'd balk at lying and manufacturing statistics that show white citizens in a positive light and black people eternally in the negative lights we've always be portrayed as?

I wrote this yesterday in response to Beagle9. It talks about the racist roots of gun control and the convict leasing system that served as a substitution for outright slavery for many black people.
CDZ - What's more important, gun's and ammo or PRIVACY ??

Bullshit.
For well over 50 years, blacks have had every opportunity — and then some — to generate a living and a future.
Black social demise has been a result of depleted family structure and democrats perpetuating that and the victim culture.

Well over 50 years out of 324 years in which blacks were either held in captivity or living under Jim Crow/racial segregation as compared to whites? That's not enough time for anyone to catch up with all other things being equal which it definitely has not been because the only thing that changed with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was putting it on paper that racial discrimination was not longer lawful however it did nothing to change the hearts and minds of the racist population as evidenced by the continued hate crimes and civil rights cases being litigated today in 2020. You can't create generational wealth without sufficient time to both acquire it and pass it down.

President Johnson knew that the passage of the Civil Rights Act was just the first step. He addressed the graduating class of Howard during that time with the following (in part):

"In far too many ways American Negroes have been another nation: deprived of freedom, crippled by hatred, the doors of opportunity closed to hope.​

In our time change has come to this Nation, too. The American Negro, acting with impressive restraint, has peacefully protested and marched, entered the courtrooms and the seats of government, demanding a justice that has long been denied. The voice of the Negro was the call to action. But it is a tribute to America that, once aroused, the courts and the Congress, the President and most of the people, have been the allies of progress.​

​

Thus we have seen the high court of the country declare that discrimination based on race was repugnant to the Constitution, and therefore void. We have seen in 1957, and 1960, and again in 1964, the first civil rights legislation in this Nation in almost an entire century.​

​

As majority leader of the United States Senate, I helped to guide two of these bills through the Senate. And, as your President, I was proud to sign the third. And now very soon we will have the fourth – a new law guaranteeing every American the right to vote​

​

No act of my entire administration will give me greater satisfaction than the day when my signature makes this bill, too, the law of this land.​

​

The voting rights bill will be the latest, and among the most important, in a long series of victories. But this victory – as Winston Churchill said of another triumph for freedom – “is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”​

​

That beginning is freedom; and the barriers to that freedom are tumbling down. Freedom is the right to share, share fully and equally, in American society – to vote, to hold a job, to enter a public place, to go to school. It is the right to be treated in every part of our national life as a person equal in dignity and promise to all others.​

​

But freedom is not enough. You do not wipe away the scars of centuries by saying: Now you are free to go where you want, and do as you desire, and choose the leaders you please.​

​

You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say, “you are free to compete with all the others,” and still justly believe that you have been completely fair.​

​

Thus it is not enough just to open the gates of opportunity. All our citizens must have the ability to walk through those gates.​

​

This is the next and the more profound stage of the battle for civil rights. We seek not just freedom but opportunity. We seek not just legal equity but human ability, not just equality as a right and a theory but equality as a fact and equality as a result.​

​

For the task is to give 20 million Negroes the same chance as every other American to learn and grow, to work and share in society, to develop their abilities – physical, mental and spiritual, and to pursue their individual happiness.​

​

To this end equal opportunity is essential, but not enough, not enough. Men and women of all races are born with the same range of abilities. But ability is not just the product of birth. Ability is stretched or stunted by the family that you live with, and the neighborhood you live in – by the school you go to and the poverty or the richness of your surroundings. It is the product of a hundred unseen forces playing upon the little infant, the child, and finally the man.​

​

This graduating class at Howard University is witness to the indomitable determination of the Negro American to win his way in American life."​

Bullshit. One generation is all it takes. And it only takes one generation to make things worse.
A black was potus. Blacks in PG County, MD, own homes most midwestern whites can’t afford.
50% of blacks in my midwestern town are on drugs and welfare. That’s democrat cultural legacy.

My grandfather was a Tuskegee Airman. He along with the rest of the Airmen had all of the requisite skills required to leave the military and pursue a successful and lucrative career as commercial airlines pilots had he lived, however it was almost 20 years between the end of WWII and the time that the airlines finally allowed an African American pilot to fly for them. And don't think it was a cakewalk just because they finally got their foot in the door mid 1960s.

No one has the right to tell another human being that they should be satisfied with less in life and should be doing much better with what crumbs the white ruling class in America threw at them.

It doesn't matter how many generations pass, if you don't have the capital to build up or can't acquire it. It was forbidden for blacks to own property and written into the deeds that the white property owners could not sell to black people. Real estate is one of the best ways to generate wealth but how were we supposed to do that when white society wouldn't allow it?

The only bullshit here is the condescending and arrogant attitude of those white racists who view black people as wayward children and refuse to accept let alone acknowledge what members of their race did to create the situation we have always lived with. And this is just one facet of living in a country that is hostile to people who are not white.

The 1960’s were over 50 years ago.
Get over it.

That’s where they live, 50-150 years ago and trying to apply today’s more advanced mores on back then and punish people today for back then using the methodology
The are not forward thinking At All, just bitter condemnation for long ago and faking that it’s here and now.

We're living in todays reality son. Unlike you we don't pretend.

You still live in the 1700's. That's when the constitution you want us to worship was made. So lie to yourself but don't try that shit here.

It’s Lib101 trick to restate what I stated and try to apply it on me
It’s a surrender and admission of no original thought nor rebuttal
And Mr Colored Guy, I’m not your son and no son to you but in fact vastly superior due to all my hard earned and accumulated privledges

You will be son and junior as long as you repeat the silly bullshit that I responded to.

If people are hostile to you, it ain't because you're black.

It's because you're rude, a liar, a racist, and hostile as fuck to them, first.
It's because you have earned it.

 

[GLASNOST]

I don't know what country you live in but white racism is not just limited to America.

Racism is where the system is corrupt, like in the U.S. where the government shits on its citizens so that the population has to scrounge to make a living and they blame their failures on race. It's called "divide and rule" and if you've been to school you may have heard of it.

It looks like you're from France ...

It looks like your geography sucks.

Lastly, this belief on race and crime has for a long time has been a matter of life or death for blacks in this country. Presenting the facts about race and crime is done in the hopes of ending the overincarceration and murders of blacks here in this country.

"this belief"? You've got shit in your eyes and your ears. Read my first reply here and get educated.

 

[GLASNOST]

You will be son and junior as long as you repeat the silly bullshit that I responded to.

If people are hostile to you, it ain't because you're black. It's because you're rude, a liar, a racist, and hostile as fuck to them, first. It's because you have earned it.

Good point.

 

[GLASNOST]

..... France, a nation that got kicked out of Haiti and the french government is still stealing from Africa ...

What kind of off-topic deflection is that? I guess they didn't teach you in school that the U.S. got kicked out of Cuba, kicked out of Canada, kicked out of Iran, kicked out of Vietnam, kicked out of Cambodia, kicked out of Laos, kicked out of Lebanon, kicked out of Somalia, kicked out of France, kicked out of many places and the U.S. government is still stealing from Afghanistan and Central America, and South America, and Africa, and the Middle East, etc. But hey! We're talking about "Two Police Officers Shot In The Head in Compton, California". Do you want to start a new thread maybe?

 

[freyasman]

..... France, a nation that got kicked out of Haiti and the french government is still stealing from Africa ...

What kind of off-topic deflection is that? I guess they didn't teach you in school that the U.S. got kicked out of Cuba, kicked out of Canada, kicked out of Iran, kicked out of Vietnam, kicked out of Cambodia, kicked out of Laos, kicked out of Lebanon, kicked out of Somalia, kicked out of France, kicked out of many places and the U.S. government is still stealing from Afghanistan and Central America, and South America, and Africa, and the Middle East, etc. But hey! We're talking about "Two Police Officers Shot In The Head in Compton, California". Do you want to start a new thread maybe?

All he ever wants to do is rant about how evil white people are.
It's how he self-soothes his own sense of self-loathing.