Turning Back The Clock On Race-Relations In America

[mudwhistle]

This is an old incident that happened on a Navy ship I was stationed on back in the 70s.

The USS KITTYHAWK in 1972.

I can see the same exact thing going on today instigated by black leaders:

At approximately 7 p.m., in October 12, 1972, the ship's investigator called a black sailor to his office for questioning about his activities in the Subic Bay. He was accompanied by nine other black men. They were belligerent, loud, and used abusive language. Those accompanying him were not allowed to sit in on the investigation. The sailor was apprised of his rights, refused to make a statement and was allowed to leave. Shortly after he left a young messcook was assaulted on the after messdeck. Within a few minutes after that, another young messcook was assaulted on the forward messdeck. In each instance, this same sailor was on the scene.......

Race Riots Within The Military Vietnam Era Racial Incidents Onboard USS Kitty Hawk CVA-63 1972.​

 

[mudwhistle]

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[mudwhistle]

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[High_Gravity]

Jesus!

 

[TheOldSchool]

Bump

Why would you try to bump this inane blather 2 times?

 

[mudwhistle]

The point of this thread should be clear.......Black leaders are attempting to turn back the clock and are literally recreating racial tension that existed in the 60sand 70s.

The people that are always effected are those that are living in predominantly black neighborhoods.

Young blacks are being taught that whites are out to get them, so they gang up and walk around with a chip on their shoulders looking for trouble.


The people that are hurt the most are usually innocent bystanders and the ignorant perpetrators themselves. Who would want to hire some young kid that got involved in an assault or was arrested for looting???

Nobody.

The answer from the left is always "Republicans cut funding!!!!!
No,.....Obama cut funding. He pushed Sequester down our throats, Congress attempted to decrease the damage by voting for alternative funding and he threatened vetoes.

Now he wants to act like it was all the GOPs fault.

According to them Baltimore was caused by funding cuts.
The train wreck was because of funding cuts. Everything is because of funding cuts. Low-life Democrats are out in force lying about funding cuts. According to the law this is a criminal conspiracy to commit fraud.

People are getting killed because of this fraudulence. Everybody needs to wake up.

 

[mudwhistle]

Bump

Why would you try to bump this inane blather 2 times?

I guess you're one of those whites the former AG said was afraid to talk about race.

 

[TheOldSchool]

The point of this thread should be clear.......Black leaders are attempting to turn back the clock and are literally recreating racial tension that existed in the 60sand 70s.

The people that are always effected are those that are living in predominantly black neighborhoods.

Young blacks are being taught that whites are out to get them, so they gang up and walk around with a chip on their shoulders looking for trouble.


The people that are hurt the most are usually innocent bystanders and the ignorant perpetrators themselves. Who would want to hire some young kid that got involved in an assault or was arrested for looting???

Nobody.

The answer from the left is always "Republicans cut funding!!!!!
No,.....Obama cut funding. He pushed Sequester down our throats, Congress attempted to decrease the damage by voting for alternative funding and he threatened vetoes.

Now he wants to act like it was all the GOPs fault.

According to them Baltimore was caused by funding cuts.
The train wreck was because of funding cuts. Everything is because of funding cuts. Low-life Democrats are out in force lying about funding cuts. According to the law this is a criminal conspiracy to commit fraud.

People are getting killed because of this fraudulence. Everybody needs to wake up.

The black crime rate has been dramatically dropping for 20 years, and will continue to. The only people trying to turn back the clock are racists like yourself.

 

[mudwhistle]

The point of this thread should be clear.......Black leaders are attempting to turn back the clock and are literally recreating racial tension that existed in the 60sand 70s.

The people that are always effected are those that are living in predominantly black neighborhoods.

Young blacks are being taught that whites are out to get them, so they gang up and walk around with a chip on their shoulders looking for trouble.


The people that are hurt the most are usually innocent bystanders and the ignorant perpetrators themselves. Who would want to hire some young kid that got involved in an assault or was arrested for looting???

Nobody.

The answer from the left is always "Republicans cut funding!!!!!
No,.....Obama cut funding. He pushed Sequester down our throats, Congress attempted to decrease the damage by voting for alternative funding and he threatened vetoes.

Now he wants to act like it was all the GOPs fault.

According to them Baltimore was caused by funding cuts.
The train wreck was because of funding cuts. Everything is because of funding cuts. Low-life Democrats are out in force lying about funding cuts. According to the law this is a criminal conspiracy to commit fraud.

People are getting killed because of this fraudulence. Everybody needs to wake up.

The black crime rate has been dramatically dropping for 20 years, and will continue to. The only people trying to turn back the clock are racists like yourself.

The crime rate has nothing to do with this.

BTW, did you ever wonder why it went down?

 

[TheOldSchool]

The point of this thread should be clear.......Black leaders are attempting to turn back the clock and are literally recreating racial tension that existed in the 60sand 70s.

The people that are always effected are those that are living in predominantly black neighborhoods.

Young blacks are being taught that whites are out to get them, so they gang up and walk around with a chip on their shoulders looking for trouble.


The people that are hurt the most are usually innocent bystanders and the ignorant perpetrators themselves. Who would want to hire some young kid that got involved in an assault or was arrested for looting???

Nobody.

The answer from the left is always "Republicans cut funding!!!!!
No,.....Obama cut funding. He pushed Sequester down our throats, Congress attempted to decrease the damage by voting for alternative funding and he threatened vetoes.

Now he wants to act like it was all the GOPs fault.

According to them Baltimore was caused by funding cuts.
The train wreck was because of funding cuts. Everything is because of funding cuts. Low-life Democrats are out in force lying about funding cuts. According to the law this is a criminal conspiracy to commit fraud.

People are getting killed because of this fraudulence. Everybody needs to wake up.

The black crime rate has been dramatically dropping for 20 years, and will continue to. The only people trying to turn back the clock are racists like yourself.

The crime rate has nothing to do with this.

BTW, did you ever wonder why it went down?

The crime rate has EVERYTHING to do with this. And you complain about Baltimore rioting; compared to the riots of 20, 30, and 40 years ago the Baltimore riots are barely anything!

Over the last 20 years: black crime rate: dramatically down. Black murder rate: dramatically down. Black victim rate: dramatically down.

But that doesn't fit your hateful narrative so you ignore it.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Racism died in the 80's?

 

[mudwhistle]

The point of this thread should be clear.......Black leaders are attempting to turn back the clock and are literally recreating racial tension that existed in the 60sand 70s.

The people that are always effected are those that are living in predominantly black neighborhoods.

Young blacks are being taught that whites are out to get them, so they gang up and walk around with a chip on their shoulders looking for trouble.


The people that are hurt the most are usually innocent bystanders and the ignorant perpetrators themselves. Who would want to hire some young kid that got involved in an assault or was arrested for looting???

Nobody.

The answer from the left is always "Republicans cut funding!!!!!
No,.....Obama cut funding. He pushed Sequester down our throats, Congress attempted to decrease the damage by voting for alternative funding and he threatened vetoes.

Now he wants to act like it was all the GOPs fault.

According to them Baltimore was caused by funding cuts.
The train wreck was because of funding cuts. Everything is because of funding cuts. Low-life Democrats are out in force lying about funding cuts. According to the law this is a criminal conspiracy to commit fraud.

People are getting killed because of this fraudulence. Everybody needs to wake up.

The black crime rate has been dramatically dropping for 20 years, and will continue to. The only people trying to turn back the clock are racists like yourself.

The crime rate has nothing to do with this.

BTW, did you ever wonder why it went down?

The crime rate has EVERYTHING to do with this. And you complain about Baltimore rioting; compared to the riots of 20, 30, and 40 years ago the Baltimore riots are barely anything!

Over the last 20 years: black crime rate: dramatically down. Black murder rate: dramatically down. Black victim rate: dramatically down.

But that doesn't fit your hateful narrative so you ignore it.

United States incarceration rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[TheOldSchool]

The point of this thread should be clear.......Black leaders are attempting to turn back the clock and are literally recreating racial tension that existed in the 60sand 70s.

The people that are always effected are those that are living in predominantly black neighborhoods.

Young blacks are being taught that whites are out to get them, so they gang up and walk around with a chip on their shoulders looking for trouble.


The people that are hurt the most are usually innocent bystanders and the ignorant perpetrators themselves. Who would want to hire some young kid that got involved in an assault or was arrested for looting???

Nobody.

The answer from the left is always "Republicans cut funding!!!!!
No,.....Obama cut funding. He pushed Sequester down our throats, Congress attempted to decrease the damage by voting for alternative funding and he threatened vetoes.

Now he wants to act like it was all the GOPs fault.

According to them Baltimore was caused by funding cuts.
The train wreck was because of funding cuts. Everything is because of funding cuts. Low-life Democrats are out in force lying about funding cuts. According to the law this is a criminal conspiracy to commit fraud.

People are getting killed because of this fraudulence. Everybody needs to wake up.

The black crime rate has been dramatically dropping for 20 years, and will continue to. The only people trying to turn back the clock are racists like yourself.

The crime rate has nothing to do with this.

BTW, did you ever wonder why it went down?

The crime rate has EVERYTHING to do with this. And you complain about Baltimore rioting; compared to the riots of 20, 30, and 40 years ago the Baltimore riots are barely anything!

Over the last 20 years: black crime rate: dramatically down. Black murder rate: dramatically down. Black victim rate: dramatically down.

But that doesn't fit your hateful narrative so you ignore it.

United States incarceration rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[mudwhistle]

The point of this thread should be clear.......Black leaders are attempting to turn back the clock and are literally recreating racial tension that existed in the 60sand 70s.

The people that are always effected are those that are living in predominantly black neighborhoods.

Young blacks are being taught that whites are out to get them, so they gang up and walk around with a chip on their shoulders looking for trouble.


The people that are hurt the most are usually innocent bystanders and the ignorant perpetrators themselves. Who would want to hire some young kid that got involved in an assault or was arrested for looting???

Nobody.

The answer from the left is always "Republicans cut funding!!!!!
No,.....Obama cut funding. He pushed Sequester down our throats, Congress attempted to decrease the damage by voting for alternative funding and he threatened vetoes.

Now he wants to act like it was all the GOPs fault.

According to them Baltimore was caused by funding cuts.
The train wreck was because of funding cuts. Everything is because of funding cuts. Low-life Democrats are out in force lying about funding cuts. According to the law this is a criminal conspiracy to commit fraud.

People are getting killed because of this fraudulence. Everybody needs to wake up.

The black crime rate has been dramatically dropping for 20 years, and will continue to. The only people trying to turn back the clock are racists like yourself.

The crime rate has nothing to do with this.

BTW, did you ever wonder why it went down?

The crime rate has EVERYTHING to do with this. And you complain about Baltimore rioting; compared to the riots of 20, 30, and 40 years ago the Baltimore riots are barely anything!

Over the last 20 years: black crime rate: dramatically down. Black murder rate: dramatically down. Black victim rate: dramatically down.

But that doesn't fit your hateful narrative so you ignore it.

United States incarceration rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

So you agree that locking them up caused the crime rate to drop.

Yet Obama keeps releasing convicted criminals into the population......which will necessarily cause the crime-rate to spike.......causing renewed calls for more "investment" in infrastructure.

 

[TheOldSchool]

The black crime rate has been dramatically dropping for 20 years, and will continue to. The only people trying to turn back the clock are racists like yourself.

The crime rate has nothing to do with this.

BTW, did you ever wonder why it went down?

The crime rate has EVERYTHING to do with this. And you complain about Baltimore rioting; compared to the riots of 20, 30, and 40 years ago the Baltimore riots are barely anything!

Over the last 20 years: black crime rate: dramatically down. Black murder rate: dramatically down. Black victim rate: dramatically down.

But that doesn't fit your hateful narrative so you ignore it.

United States incarceration rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

So you agree that locking them up caused the crime rate to drop.

Yet Obama keeps releasing convicted criminals into the population......which will necessarily cause the crime-rate to spike.......causing renewed calls for more "investment" in infrastructure.

Our jails are crowded full of people who did not commit violent crimes. That's the point of that chart.

 

[mudwhistle]

The crime rate has nothing to do with this.

BTW, did you ever wonder why it went down?

The crime rate has EVERYTHING to do with this. And you complain about Baltimore rioting; compared to the riots of 20, 30, and 40 years ago the Baltimore riots are barely anything!

Over the last 20 years: black crime rate: dramatically down. Black murder rate: dramatically down. Black victim rate: dramatically down.

But that doesn't fit your hateful narrative so you ignore it.

United States incarceration rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

So you agree that locking them up caused the crime rate to drop.

Yet Obama keeps releasing convicted criminals into the population......which will necessarily cause the crime-rate to spike.......causing renewed calls for more "investment" in infrastructure.

Our jails are crowded full of people who did not commit violent crimes. That's the point of that chart.

Violence isn't a prerequisite for incarceration....

 

[TheOldSchool]

The crime rate has EVERYTHING to do with this. And you complain about Baltimore rioting; compared to the riots of 20, 30, and 40 years ago the Baltimore riots are barely anything!

Over the last 20 years: black crime rate: dramatically down. Black murder rate: dramatically down. Black victim rate: dramatically down.

But that doesn't fit your hateful narrative so you ignore it.

United States incarceration rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

So you agree that locking them up caused the crime rate to drop.

Yet Obama keeps releasing convicted criminals into the population......which will necessarily cause the crime-rate to spike.......causing renewed calls for more "investment" in infrastructure.

Our jails are crowded full of people who did not commit violent crimes. That's the point of that chart.

Violence isn't a prerequisite for incarceration....

Your thread is about violence dummy.

 

[mudwhistle]

United States incarceration rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

So you agree that locking them up caused the crime rate to drop.

Yet Obama keeps releasing convicted criminals into the population......which will necessarily cause the crime-rate to spike.......causing renewed calls for more "investment" in infrastructure.

Our jails are crowded full of people who did not commit violent crimes. That's the point of that chart.

Violence isn't a prerequisite for incarceration....

Your thread is about violence dummy.

No....it's about race relations being returned back to the state it was over 40 years ago by black leaders.

 

[mudwhistle]

United States incarceration rate - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

So you agree that locking them up caused the crime rate to drop.

Yet Obama keeps releasing convicted criminals into the population......which will necessarily cause the crime-rate to spike.......causing renewed calls for more "investment" in infrastructure.

Our jails are crowded full of people who did not commit violent crimes. That's the point of that chart.

Violence isn't a prerequisite for incarceration....

Your thread is about violence dummy.

I'd just about bet you didn't click on my link to the story. Well here's some of the comments posted there:

AnonymousThursday, March 29, 2012 3:24:00 PM

I was on the Kitty Hawk this night & worked in #4 engine room. I was a second class Machinist Mate. DC central gave us orders to set zebra on all 4 of the engine rooms & keep everybody out that didn't belong there --regardless of skin color -- they were concerned about a mutiny going on & rioters gaining control of one or more engine rooms would give them a bargaining position. We (the engine room grews)were ordered to use 150 lb steam hoses to repel intruders. For those unfamiliar with the power of steam, 150 lbs of steam out of the end of a hose is like a full auto 12 ga & will make the recipient look like Freddy Kruger.
I was the Machinist Mate Top watch for the mid watch in #4 engine room & was ordered by DC central to send my messenger out of the engine room to check the shaft alley & stern tube (unoccupied engineering spaces where the propeller shaft goes through the ship) since there was concern that someone could sabotage the shaft bearings in these spaces. He never came back -- 3 guys jumped him while his back was turned -- opening a hatch. He ended up in sick bays with injuries to his head & upper body. Real brave, these rioters -- 3 on one.
In the days after the riots, no one was allowed to carry anything that looked like a bludgeon or weapon. I remember being confronted by a marine one day because I was carrying an 1 1/2" combo wrench in the wrench pocket on my work coveralls. I told him that could have it if he wanted to go to the engineering log room & explain to the chief engineering officer why I couldn't get my work done after he confiscated my tools. He didn't get the wrench.
I also remember that the next time that we pulled into Subic, right after the riots, that the base commander cautioned us against any fighting during our in port stay. we were only in port for 2 or 3 days & some guys from the ship trashed out a bar in Olongapo City. We got kicked out of port
Anyhow, Friday, Oct 13, 1972 was not a good night, but one that I can never forge.
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AnonymousThursday, April 24, 2014 4:16:00 AM

Read the events that took place that night,brings back memories I thought I would never have to express my visions of what I saw. I was attached to S-6 ships supply and worked on the mezzanine and had a few of my crew out in storerooms in different locations pulling parts and supplies, when all this took place. Got everyone back on the mezz and we watched scared but ready to react if anyone, I mean anyone tried to come up to the mezz via ladders or up a straight ladder from the hangar deck upward. We had armed ourselves with screwdrivers,chains,whatever we could find. Lucky for us no one made an attempt to come up. If had they, they could in fact see the whole hangar deck and control,or better yet direct the flow of attackers. I have seen it, been there, and will never forget.All about the "Panthers",and "X". No one mentions the day after,what took place. Another story... to be told.
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Frank W. WeardenMonday, October 20, 2014 8:38:00 AM

I was a M.M.-PO3 assigned to #1 Main Engine Room. We worked 8 hours on & 8 hours off. There was no "third shift!" We were up NORTH in "Yankee Station" carrying out our big part in "Operation Linebacker" - April to October 1972. Our Kitty Hawk aircraft squadrons mined the entrance to Haiphong Harbor & dropped the first "smart bombs". This Operation Linebacker in North Viet Nam in 1972 finally brought about the Signing of The Viet Nam "Peace Accord" in Paris France on Jan. 27 1973...
This Race Riot will forever be a nasty scar on the U.C.M.J.
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AnonymousTuesday, December 30, 2014 10:56:00 AM

I was on board the Kitty Hawk when this occured . VA - 195 was the unit I belonged to. We were told by our CO and supervisors to seal off our shops and berthing compartments and allow no one in. This story is not the same as I heard it. We were told that the begining of this confrontation started over someone wanting seconds at the aft galley. They reached for a second sandwich and was struck by the person serving. Don't know which person was black, or which was white. I don't remember the XO's name but, I do remember that he was a key factor in getting the black personell to calm down. When we returned to Subic Bay a fight broke out in the enlisted club (Sanpaguita) I think was the name of the club. It was demolished inside. I was in the bathroom (head) that night when the fight started. Locked myself in and remained there until security forces arrived. It was all a big mess , no one felt really safe after that, white or black.​

 

[mudwhistle]

This is the kind crap that is going on. Bands of roving blacks looking for somebody to beat up. This is the kind of Shit that all of this reckless rhetoric coming from Michelle, and her husband will cause. They don't care if somebody's life is ruined or somebody's killed. They're evil to the core. Anyone who's responsible for this should be locked up and throw away the key......but they're out there egging black kids into doing something stupid.