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A very wise man coined that phrase.


In 1982, Ronald Reagan asked his arms control advisory committee to conduct a review of Soviet compliance in the 25 years of arms control treaties. It was the first such concerted review ever. The answer to the question of Soviet arms controls compliance was that there was none.
West, "American Betrayal," p. 198.
Unlike Franklin Roosevelt, the great Reagan provided the so much more realistic "Trust, but verify."



Today, more than ever, it is advice all of us should take to heart.





1. ....don't make the mistake of assigning a higher level of integrity and honesty than anyone else. Not politicians, bureaucrats, economists, pastors....whatever. As a result of the Wuhan virus, we’ve now learned not to assign superior ability to predict, or trust the knowledge of, scientists or doctors, either.

Certainly, we learned that about bureaucrats, heads of agencies, the Deep State. Now, let's remember Doctor Fauci’s advice:

2. . “Coronavirus is not a major threat for the people in the United States, and this is not something the citizens should be worried about,” Dr. Anthony Fauci January 21st. Five days later on a podcast with the New York grocery store magnate, John Catsimatidis…. January 26:The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. Very, very low risk for the United States.” Dr. Fauci five days later, after saying coronavirus was “not a major threat for the people, not something citizens should be worried about,” he said, “It isn’t something the American people need to worry about or frightened by this.”


3. March 9th, and it’s Forbes. Dr. Fauci: “If you are a healthy young person, there’s no reason. If you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.” Remember the Song of Princess or the Virus Princess, whatever, docked or offshore in Japan where everybody on it had the virus? When was that? This Dr. Fauci in a story March 9th, Forbes:
“If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason. If you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.”

Doesn't look too good in retrospect.




4."This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’
First of all, the “experts” frequently don’t agree. When this happens, it is up to politicians and other elected or appointed individuals to decide. It is an unenviable task for sure. If you are right the “expert” gets the credit. If you are wrong, you “should’ve listened to the experts!” Not to mention that hindsight is always 20/20.

Secondly the word “expert” implies a narrow field of “expertise.” Very few experts or scientists are qualified to consider the Big Picture, and they often miss the unintended consequences.”
This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’



Of course, to trust but verify, one must need a real education, not the sort government school provides.
 
A very wise man coined that phrase.


In 1982, Ronald Reagan asked his arms control advisory committee to conduct a review of Soviet compliance in the 25 years of arms control treaties. It was the first such concerted review ever. The answer to the question of Soviet arms controls compliance was that there was none.
West, "American Betrayal," p. 198.
Unlike Franklin Roosevelt, the great Reagan provided the so much more realistic "Trust, but verify."



Today, more than ever, it is advice all of us should take to heart.





1. ....don't make the mistake of assigning a higher level of integrity and honesty than anyone else. Not politicians, bureaucrats, economists, pastors....whatever. As a result of the Wuhan virus, we’ve now learned not to assign superior ability to predict, or trust the knowledge of, scientists or doctors, either.

Certainly, we learned that about bureaucrats, heads of agencies, the Deep State. Now, let's remember Doctor Fauci’s advice:

2. . “Coronavirus is not a major threat for the people in the United States, and this is not something the citizens should be worried about,” Dr. Anthony Fauci January 21st. Five days later on a podcast with the New York grocery store magnate, John Catsimatidis…. January 26:The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. Very, very low risk for the United States.” Dr. Fauci five days later, after saying coronavirus was “not a major threat for the people, not something citizens should be worried about,” he said, “It isn’t something the American people need to worry about or frightened by this.”


3. March 9th, and it’s Forbes. Dr. Fauci: “If you are a healthy young person, there’s no reason. If you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.” Remember the Song of Princess or the Virus Princess, whatever, docked or offshore in Japan where everybody on it had the virus? When was that? This Dr. Fauci in a story March 9th, Forbes:
“If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason. If you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.”

Doesn't look too good in retrospect.




4."This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’
First of all, the “experts” frequently don’t agree. When this happens, it is up to politicians and other elected or appointed individuals to decide. It is an unenviable task for sure. If you are right the “expert” gets the credit. If you are wrong, you “should’ve listened to the experts!” Not to mention that hindsight is always 20/20.

Secondly the word “expert” implies a narrow field of “expertise.” Very few experts or scientists are qualified to consider the Big Picture, and they often miss the unintended consequences.”
This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’



Of course, to trust but verify, one must need a real education, not the sort government school provides.

Trump in Davos on January 22nd
“It’s one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It’s going to be just fine,” .
Mind you, this is the guy that makes the decisions. Yeah, you're right. Doesn't look good from any angle in retrospect.

Now, for Fauci's comment. While looking not so good in hindsight, you left off the last part of his comment.
"Fauci then said, “If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason if you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship. But the fact is that if you have…an individual who has an underlying condition, particularly an elderly person who has an underlying condition, I would recommend strongly that they do not go on a cruise ship.”

You right wingers tend to do that when it suits your narrative.
 
A very wise man coined that phrase.


In 1982, Ronald Reagan asked his arms control advisory committee to conduct a review of Soviet compliance in the 25 years of arms control treaties. It was the first such concerted review ever. The answer to the question of Soviet arms controls compliance was that there was none.
West, "American Betrayal," p. 198.
Unlike Franklin Roosevelt, the great Reagan provided the so much more realistic "Trust, but verify."



Today, more than ever, it is advice all of us should take to heart.





1. ....don't make the mistake of assigning a higher level of integrity and honesty than anyone else. Not politicians, bureaucrats, economists, pastors....whatever. As a result of the Wuhan virus, we’ve now learned not to assign superior ability to predict, or trust the knowledge of, scientists or doctors, either.

Certainly, we learned that about bureaucrats, heads of agencies, the Deep State. Now, let's remember Doctor Fauci’s advice:

2. . “Coronavirus is not a major threat for the people in the United States, and this is not something the citizens should be worried about,” Dr. Anthony Fauci January 21st. Five days later on a podcast with the New York grocery store magnate, John Catsimatidis…. January 26:The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. Very, very low risk for the United States.” Dr. Fauci five days later, after saying coronavirus was “not a major threat for the people, not something citizens should be worried about,” he said, “It isn’t something the American people need to worry about or frightened by this.”


3. March 9th, and it’s Forbes. Dr. Fauci: “If you are a healthy young person, there’s no reason. If you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.” Remember the Song of Princess or the Virus Princess, whatever, docked or offshore in Japan where everybody on it had the virus? When was that? This Dr. Fauci in a story March 9th, Forbes:
“If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason. If you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.”

Doesn't look too good in retrospect.




4."This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’
First of all, the “experts” frequently don’t agree. When this happens, it is up to politicians and other elected or appointed individuals to decide. It is an unenviable task for sure. If you are right the “expert” gets the credit. If you are wrong, you “should’ve listened to the experts!” Not to mention that hindsight is always 20/20.

Secondly the word “expert” implies a narrow field of “expertise.” Very few experts or scientists are qualified to consider the Big Picture, and they often miss the unintended consequences.”
This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’



Of course, to trust but verify, one must need a real education, not the sort government school provides.

Trump in Davos on January 22nd
“It’s one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It’s going to be just fine,” .
Mind you, this is the guy that makes the decisions. Yeah, you're right. Doesn't look good from any angle in retrospect.

Now, for Fauci's comment. While looking not so good in hindsight, you left off the last part of his comment.
"Fauci then said, “If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason if you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship. But the fact is that if you have…an individual who has an underlying condition, particularly an elderly person who has an underlying condition, I would recommend strongly that they do not go on a cruise ship.”

You right wingers tend to do that when it suits your narrative.



Hard to believe you never learned this growing up.....or, perhaps you Democrats never grow up, and remain infantilized by your masters.....but, jot this down: Reality is defined by actions, not by words.


While the words can be attributed to reassuring the public......what actions did Trump take, and when did he take them?




1.The H1N 1 epidemic was in 2009.

Hussein was in charge for the following eight years.

First, 1,000 Americans had died, and six months passed, before Hussein declared H1N1 a national emergency.

What did he learn from the H1N1, and how did his administration prepare America for the next epidemic?



2. How did the World Health Organization warn the current administration?

“WHO Claimed In January Wuhan Virus Couldn’t Be Transmitted to Humans, Because China Said It Wasn’t Contagious, Destroyed Evidence

China has been lying since at least December about the nature of the virus and that’s in part why it has been able to spread.

Here’s a WHO advisory from Jan. 14 trying to tell people that it couldn’t be transmitted between humans, according to China.


World Health Organization (WHO)
@WHO



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3. Trump: When did he know, and how long did he wait?

Trump took 11 days from the realization of how dangerous the Wuhan death virus was…..

News of the virus’ highly contagious nature didn’t surface publicly until Jan. 20, Human-to-human transmission confirmed in China coronavirus

…and it took Trump a whole 11 days to shut down travel with China.

“Trump already signed an order Jan. 31 barring entry to foreign nationals,…” Trump sets new travel restrictions over coronavirus, considering southern border shutdown

Eleven days….

February 29th, first American died of the virus. First American has died from coronavirus, health officials confirm

March 13th…Trump declared a national health emergency due to the virus. Trump declares national emergency over coronavirus outbreak



4. And as soon as Trump stopped travel with China, Biden and the Democrats called him a racist xenophobe for doing so.

“We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump’s record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering. He is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency.”


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5. Eight years after the Obamunists experienced the H1N1, how is it that they never replenished ventilators, never replenished testing kits, never made sure there were enough PTE’s, the face shields, the masks, enough gloves, etc.???


Gives poignant meaning to ‘a day late, and a dollar short.’
 
A very wise man coined that phrase.


In 1982, Ronald Reagan asked his arms control advisory committee to conduct a review of Soviet compliance in the 25 years of arms control treaties. It was the first such concerted review ever. The answer to the question of Soviet arms controls compliance was that there was none.
West, "American Betrayal," p. 198.
Unlike Franklin Roosevelt, the great Reagan provided the so much more realistic "Trust, but verify."



Today, more than ever, it is advice all of us should take to heart.





1. ....don't make the mistake of assigning a higher level of integrity and honesty than anyone else. Not politicians, bureaucrats, economists, pastors....whatever. As a result of the Wuhan virus, we’ve now learned not to assign superior ability to predict, or trust the knowledge of, scientists or doctors, either.

Certainly, we learned that about bureaucrats, heads of agencies, the Deep State. Now, let's remember Doctor Fauci’s advice:

2. . “Coronavirus is not a major threat for the people in the United States, and this is not something the citizens should be worried about,” Dr. Anthony Fauci January 21st. Five days later on a podcast with the New York grocery store magnate, John Catsimatidis…. January 26:The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. Very, very low risk for the United States.” Dr. Fauci five days later, after saying coronavirus was “not a major threat for the people, not something citizens should be worried about,” he said, “It isn’t something the American people need to worry about or frightened by this.”


3. March 9th, and it’s Forbes. Dr. Fauci: “If you are a healthy young person, there’s no reason. If you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.” Remember the Song of Princess or the Virus Princess, whatever, docked or offshore in Japan where everybody on it had the virus? When was that? This Dr. Fauci in a story March 9th, Forbes:
“If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason. If you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.”

Doesn't look too good in retrospect.




4."This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’
First of all, the “experts” frequently don’t agree. When this happens, it is up to politicians and other elected or appointed individuals to decide. It is an unenviable task for sure. If you are right the “expert” gets the credit. If you are wrong, you “should’ve listened to the experts!” Not to mention that hindsight is always 20/20.

Secondly the word “expert” implies a narrow field of “expertise.” Very few experts or scientists are qualified to consider the Big Picture, and they often miss the unintended consequences.”
This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’



Of course, to trust but verify, one must need a real education, not the sort government school provides.

Trump in Davos on January 22nd
“It’s one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It’s going to be just fine,” .
Mind you, this is the guy that makes the decisions. Yeah, you're right. Doesn't look good from any angle in retrospect.

Now, for Fauci's comment. While looking not so good in hindsight, you left off the last part of his comment.
"Fauci then said, “If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason if you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship. But the fact is that if you have…an individual who has an underlying condition, particularly an elderly person who has an underlying condition, I would recommend strongly that they do not go on a cruise ship.”

You right wingers tend to do that when it suits your narrative.



Hard to believe you never learned this growing up.....or, perhaps you Democrats never grow up, and remain infantilized by your masters.....but, jot this down: Reality is defined by actions, not by words.


While the words can be attributed to reassuring the public......what actions did Trump take, and when did he take them?




1.The H1N 1 epidemic was in 2009.

Hussein was in charge for the following eight years.

First, 1,000 Americans had died, and six months passed, before Hussein declared H1N1 a national emergency.

What did he learn from the H1N1, and how did his administration prepare America for the next epidemic?



2. How did the World Health Organization warn the current administration?

“WHO Claimed In January Wuhan Virus Couldn’t Be Transmitted to Humans, Because China Said It Wasn’t Contagious, Destroyed Evidence

China has been lying since at least December about the nature of the virus and that’s in part why it has been able to spread.

Here’s a WHO advisory from Jan. 14 trying to tell people that it couldn’t be transmitted between humans, according to China.


World Health Organization (WHO)
@WHO



World Health Organization (WHO)
@WHO



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3. Trump: When did he know, and how long did he wait?

Trump took 11 days from the realization of how dangerous the Wuhan death virus was…..

News of the virus’ highly contagious nature didn’t surface publicly until Jan. 20, Human-to-human transmission confirmed in China coronavirus

…and it took Trump a whole 11 days to shut down travel with China.

“Trump already signed an order Jan. 31 barring entry to foreign nationals,…” Trump sets new travel restrictions over coronavirus, considering southern border shutdown

Eleven days….

February 29th, first American died of the virus. First American has died from coronavirus, health officials confirm

March 13th…Trump declared a national health emergency due to the virus. Trump declares national emergency over coronavirus outbreak



4. And as soon as Trump stopped travel with China, Biden and the Democrats called him a racist xenophobe for doing so.

“We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump’s record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering. He is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency.”


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We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump’s record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering. He is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency.
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5. Eight years after the Obamunists experienced the H1N1, how is it that they never replenished ventilators, never replenished testing kits, never made sure there were enough PTE’s, the face shields, the masks, enough gloves, etc.???


Gives poignant meaning to ‘a day late, and a dollar short.’


You're cutting and pasting information that you used to start another thread yesterday? You know, the one where you got your ass thoroughly handed to you?
Damn, your game is slipping. Now I know your a Russian bot. Carry on comrade. Don't let me interrupt your disinformation campaign.
 
A very wise man coined that phrase.


In 1982, Ronald Reagan asked his arms control advisory committee to conduct a review of Soviet compliance in the 25 years of arms control treaties. It was the first such concerted review ever. The answer to the question of Soviet arms controls compliance was that there was none.
West, "American Betrayal," p. 198.
Unlike Franklin Roosevelt, the great Reagan provided the so much more realistic "Trust, but verify."



Today, more than ever, it is advice all of us should take to heart.





1. ....don't make the mistake of assigning a higher level of integrity and honesty than anyone else. Not politicians, bureaucrats, economists, pastors....whatever. As a result of the Wuhan virus, we’ve now learned not to assign superior ability to predict, or trust the knowledge of, scientists or doctors, either.

Certainly, we learned that about bureaucrats, heads of agencies, the Deep State. Now, let's remember Doctor Fauci’s advice:

2. . “Coronavirus is not a major threat for the people in the United States, and this is not something the citizens should be worried about,” Dr. Anthony Fauci January 21st. Five days later on a podcast with the New York grocery store magnate, John Catsimatidis…. January 26:The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. Very, very low risk for the United States.” Dr. Fauci five days later, after saying coronavirus was “not a major threat for the people, not something citizens should be worried about,” he said, “It isn’t something the American people need to worry about or frightened by this.”


3. March 9th, and it’s Forbes. Dr. Fauci: “If you are a healthy young person, there’s no reason. If you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.” Remember the Song of Princess or the Virus Princess, whatever, docked or offshore in Japan where everybody on it had the virus? When was that? This Dr. Fauci in a story March 9th, Forbes:
“If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason. If you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.”

Doesn't look too good in retrospect.




4."This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’
First of all, the “experts” frequently don’t agree. When this happens, it is up to politicians and other elected or appointed individuals to decide. It is an unenviable task for sure. If you are right the “expert” gets the credit. If you are wrong, you “should’ve listened to the experts!” Not to mention that hindsight is always 20/20.

Secondly the word “expert” implies a narrow field of “expertise.” Very few experts or scientists are qualified to consider the Big Picture, and they often miss the unintended consequences.”
This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’



Of course, to trust but verify, one must need a real education, not the sort government school provides.

Trump in Davos on January 22nd
“It’s one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It’s going to be just fine,” .
Mind you, this is the guy that makes the decisions. Yeah, you're right. Doesn't look good from any angle in retrospect.

Now, for Fauci's comment. While looking not so good in hindsight, you left off the last part of his comment.
"Fauci then said, “If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason if you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship. But the fact is that if you have…an individual who has an underlying condition, particularly an elderly person who has an underlying condition, I would recommend strongly that they do not go on a cruise ship.”

You right wingers tend to do that when it suits your narrative.



Hard to believe you never learned this growing up.....or, perhaps you Democrats never grow up, and remain infantilized by your masters.....but, jot this down: Reality is defined by actions, not by words.


While the words can be attributed to reassuring the public......what actions did Trump take, and when did he take them?




1.The H1N 1 epidemic was in 2009.

Hussein was in charge for the following eight years.

First, 1,000 Americans had died, and six months passed, before Hussein declared H1N1 a national emergency.

What did he learn from the H1N1, and how did his administration prepare America for the next epidemic?



2. How did the World Health Organization warn the current administration?

“WHO Claimed In January Wuhan Virus Couldn’t Be Transmitted to Humans, Because China Said It Wasn’t Contagious, Destroyed Evidence

China has been lying since at least December about the nature of the virus and that’s in part why it has been able to spread.

Here’s a WHO advisory from Jan. 14 trying to tell people that it couldn’t be transmitted between humans, according to China.


World Health Organization (WHO)
@WHO



World Health Organization (WHO)
@WHO



Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China
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3. Trump: When did he know, and how long did he wait?

Trump took 11 days from the realization of how dangerous the Wuhan death virus was…..

News of the virus’ highly contagious nature didn’t surface publicly until Jan. 20, Human-to-human transmission confirmed in China coronavirus

…and it took Trump a whole 11 days to shut down travel with China.

“Trump already signed an order Jan. 31 barring entry to foreign nationals,…” Trump sets new travel restrictions over coronavirus, considering southern border shutdown

Eleven days….

February 29th, first American died of the virus. First American has died from coronavirus, health officials confirm

March 13th…Trump declared a national health emergency due to the virus. Trump declares national emergency over coronavirus outbreak



4. And as soon as Trump stopped travel with China, Biden and the Democrats called him a racist xenophobe for doing so.

“We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump’s record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering. He is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency.”


Joe Biden
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We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump’s record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering. He is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency.
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5. Eight years after the Obamunists experienced the H1N1, how is it that they never replenished ventilators, never replenished testing kits, never made sure there were enough PTE’s, the face shields, the masks, enough gloves, etc.???


Gives poignant meaning to ‘a day late, and a dollar short.’


You're cutting and pasting information that you used to start another thread yesterday? You know, the one where you got your ass thoroughly handed to you?
Damn, your game is slipping. Now I know your a Russian bot. Carry on comrade. Don't let me interrupt your disinformation campaign.


"You're cutting and pasting information that you used to start another thread yesterday? You know, the one where you got your ass thoroughly handed to you? "


Nothing of the sort occurred.

Everything I post is always 100% true, accurate and correct.

That is because I always link, source and document, or as you put it, 'cut and paste.'


If you ever get out of junior high, and move on to college, you may learn how to do it, as well.




I did notice you were unable to deny anything I wrote.
 
5. “WHO Claimed In January Wuhan Virus Couldn’t Be Transmitted to Humans, Because China Said It Wasn’t Contagious, Destroyed Evidence

Here’s a WHO advisory from Jan. 14 trying to tell people that it couldn’t be transmitted between humans, according to China.” WHO Claimed In January Wuhan Virus Couldn't Be Transmitted to Humans, Because China Said It Wasn't Contagious, Destroyed Evidence




6. “…experts, like us all, can be both arrogant and arrogantly wrong. I have lived long enough to live through more than a few rounds of “experts” making dire predictions that have not panned out.
Fears of a “population bomb” have been replaced by fears of too few people in places like Germany. China is beginning to regret listening to the “experts” who talked them into their “one child” policy. Now there are not enough women to marry all the boy babies preferred by couples and not enough young people to support the old.”
This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’


And not merely 'trust but verify,'......look closely at the politics behind the 'expert's' findings.
 
7. More ‘experts’ at work:


“The consensus among the “experts” was that we would be absolutely out of oil sometime in the 1980s. More news just today is that the world is AWASH in oil. OPEC just announced a cut of 10 MILLION barrels a day and now the experts are saying that is not even half enough cuts to prop up prices. I read yesterday that on an inflation adjusted basis we are buying gas at 1932 prices!!!!


There is in fact so much oil sloshing around that some “experts” are predicting that when the world runs out of storage the oil producers will be forced to PAY FOLKS TO TAKE IT OFF THEIR HANDS.

Where are all the experts now who told us that “BIG OIL” was controlling the world and artificially keeping the price of oil in the stratosphere? Investing in Big Oil companies like Exxon have been “dead money” for DECADES now.

So, while I love science and trust my doctor, I am just as skeptical of the nostrum, “Listen to the experts!” as I am about those who would have me believe that “women never lie!”

As always there is no substitute for doing one’s own thinking. You gotta be an expert on which experts to listen to!"


This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’

So, while I love science and trust my doctor, I am just as skeptical of the nostrum, “Listen to the experts!” as I am about those who would have me believe that “women never lie!”

As always there is no substitute for doing one’s own thinking. You gotta be an expert on which experts to listen to!"
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8. Once individuals believe that they are ‘experts,’ a belief in their own infallibility seems to follow.

It appears,statistically, that doctors themselves may be the cause of some of the damage they hope to alleviate.




“But we need to investigate even deeper to really understand the facts of what is going on during this pandemic. According to the CDC, 2,841,600 people died in the US in 2019. That averages out to be 236,800 per month. Yet only 501,444 deaths have occurred nationwide this year between January 1, 2020, to April 9. Averaging the death rate over the first 3 months of 2019, there should have been 710,400 deaths, not merely 501,444, especially since the death rate for the flu is historically highest in January, February, and March. So, where are all the bodies from the 0.001242% deaths caused by COVID-19?

In reality, we are experiencing a lower death rate in 2020 than in previous years. This lower death rate could be a mere coincidence, but historically the scientific data documents that when doctors go on strike, or simply don’t come to work, death rates drop significantly. In fact, no study has proven that death rates decline when doctors do come to work.

The point being made here is, that when doctors are not performing elective, non-emergency procedures and interventions, (basically non-essential services) death rates historically drop. But as soon as doctors come back to work and non-essential services start up again, death rates increase. You might find it interesting that during this pandemic many doctors are being laid off.
Statistically Significant: Why It Makes a Difference - Tom McFie



What??????

When doctors are not 'doctoring'.......death rates historically drop.



Think about that…..what if it is correct?
 
9. Is it actually the case that medical ‘experts,’ doctors, cause more deaths than would occur without them???



“This is a significant fact. It shows that it is highly probable that the public, and doctors themselves, tend to overestimate the affect and effects of medicine and the medical care system, while underestimating the ability of the human immune system to adapt and overcome infections, including COVID-19 infections.

For those who can remember clearly, at the beginning of this pandemic, death projections initially were modeled to be 2.2million. Those models included all the known available treatments and included the social distancing measures that are now being enforced upon all of us, and they were scary. Yet, without even a hint of guilt or apology, those same medically modeled projections have been revised to estimate less than 61,000 deaths. This grave discrepancy is not because of science but is the result of revisionist propaganda. Science demands honesty, especially when your model or hypothesis fails. Not admitting this fact is a fraud.

As mentioned earlier, many doctors are not working currently because their non-essential services are not needed, and this is the most probable reason that the death rate is only 70.59% of what it was in 2019 (5,116.76 per day instead of 7,248.98 per day) at this same time (April 9th.)”
Statistically Significant: Why It Makes a Difference - Tom McFie





Pretty scary. I’d actually like to be wrong about this…..
 
10. America was created as a place where citizens select other citizens to rule.

We were never meant to be ruled by unelected bureaucrats, judges, etc. and certainly not by foreign entities like the WHO.
We were meant to self-govern.




From the Russia Hoax to the impeachment hearings we see the proof that is no longer the case, the existence of governance by the unelected bureaucrats.


Either Americans choose, elect, their leaders….or career bureaucrats make them into serfs. These ‘impeachment hearings….midlevel bureaucrats demand that they have the right to overrule the elected President of the United States.



Bizarre….except that that view is central to Progressive doctrine. From the 19th century, Progressive doctrine has favored what they called the 'Administrative State.'

A concept derived from Germany, and not at all an American of governance.
 
11. Democrats endorse America being governed by ‘experts.’

Focus your attention on the Left turn that the government made under Democrat/Progressive Woodrow Wilson. Rather than the people being governed by elected representatives, the three branches, “Woodrow Wilson gave the administrative state its rationale: he held that government by nonpartisan, public-spirited, Ivy League–trained experts making rules in such agencies as the Federal Trade Commission or the Interstate Commerce Commission would be infinitely wiser, more efficient, and more responsive to changing conditions and the evolving spirit of the age than the Framers’ government of limited and separated powers, a clockwork relic in the electricity age.


….ever since the New Deal supersized Wilson’s system, administrative agencies have multiplied like the Sorcerer’s Apprentice’s brooms, so that federal regulations now spill out of 240 volumes—and not only overregulated businessmen, infrastructure planners, and a few law professors, but also Supreme Court justices, have begun to wonder by what legitimate authority unelected bureaucrats can make rules like a legislature, carry them out like an executive, and adjudicate and punish infractions of them like a judiciary, usurping powers that the Constitution places solely in the Congress, the president, and the courts, with no two powers concentrated in the same hands.” The Court Moves Right




The rationale is that the United States, the government itself, and the contemporary issues themselves, have become too big to be covered by the 18th century documents.
Where does the Constitution allow for governance by bureaucrats, and not be considered to be an unconstitutional delegation of legislative authority to an agency or bureau?


Whether called bureaucrats, agencies....kings, czars, dictators or Justices......how did unelected individuals come to rule American citizens??????
 
12. America was founded on the views of Jefferson, Madison and Adams. To our detriment, European political science found a home here, in the works of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx.



“…found in Hegel…the embodiment of the ethical life of the nation….the idealization of the bureaucratic state administered by supposedly disinterested experts…[and] this ideal justified the conclusion that the separation of powers was an anachronism no longer necessary or even tolerable.”
George Will



And once the experts spoke, and their ‘truth’ was accepted by government, it became the obligation of all to bend the neck and the knee to their orders.
Hegel said “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And if one doesn’t, according to Rousseau and his associates, he should be treated like a rabid beast. Although attributed to Rousseau, it was Diderot who gave the model for totalitarianism of reason: “We must reason about all things,” and anyone who ‘refuses to seek out the truth’ thereby renounces his human nature and “should be treated by the rest of his species as a wild beast.” So, once ‘truth’ is determined, anyone who doesn’t accept it was “either insane or wicked and morally evil.” It is not the individual who has the “ right to decide about the nature of right and wrong,” but only “the human race,” expressed as the general will. Himmelfarb, “The Roads to Modernity,” p. 167-68


Americans were not meant to be governed by unelected 'experts.'

Sadly, thinking has been mitigated, and largely abandoned, by those subject to government schooling.
 
A very wise man coined that phrase.


In 1982, Ronald Reagan asked his arms control advisory committee to conduct a review of Soviet compliance in the 25 years of arms control treaties. It was the first such concerted review ever. The answer to the question of Soviet arms controls compliance was that there was none.
West, "American Betrayal," p. 198.
Unlike Franklin Roosevelt, the great Reagan provided the so much more realistic "Trust, but verify."



Today, more than ever, it is advice all of us should take to heart.





1. ....don't make the mistake of assigning a higher level of integrity and honesty than anyone else. Not politicians, bureaucrats, economists, pastors....whatever. As a result of the Wuhan virus, we’ve now learned not to assign superior ability to predict, or trust the knowledge of, scientists or doctors, either.

Certainly, we learned that about bureaucrats, heads of agencies, the Deep State. Now, let's remember Doctor Fauci’s advice:

2. . “Coronavirus is not a major threat for the people in the United States, and this is not something the citizens should be worried about,” Dr. Anthony Fauci January 21st. Five days later on a podcast with the New York grocery store magnate, John Catsimatidis…. January 26:The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. Very, very low risk for the United States.” Dr. Fauci five days later, after saying coronavirus was “not a major threat for the people, not something citizens should be worried about,” he said, “It isn’t something the American people need to worry about or frightened by this.”


3. March 9th, and it’s Forbes. Dr. Fauci: “If you are a healthy young person, there’s no reason. If you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.” Remember the Song of Princess or the Virus Princess, whatever, docked or offshore in Japan where everybody on it had the virus? When was that? This Dr. Fauci in a story March 9th, Forbes:
“If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason. If you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.”

Doesn't look too good in retrospect.




4."This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’
First of all, the “experts” frequently don’t agree. When this happens, it is up to politicians and other elected or appointed individuals to decide. It is an unenviable task for sure. If you are right the “expert” gets the credit. If you are wrong, you “should’ve listened to the experts!” Not to mention that hindsight is always 20/20.

Secondly the word “expert” implies a narrow field of “expertise.” Very few experts or scientists are qualified to consider the Big Picture, and they often miss the unintended consequences.”
This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’



Of course, to trust but verify, one must need a real education, not the sort government school provides.
It's a contradictory phrase therefore meaningless.

If you trust someone there is no need to verify.

If you don't trust someone then you verify.

You can't have both
 
A very wise man coined that phrase.


In 1982, Ronald Reagan asked his arms control advisory committee to conduct a review of Soviet compliance in the 25 years of arms control treaties. It was the first such concerted review ever. The answer to the question of Soviet arms controls compliance was that there was none.
West, "American Betrayal," p. 198.
Unlike Franklin Roosevelt, the great Reagan provided the so much more realistic "Trust, but verify."



Today, more than ever, it is advice all of us should take to heart.





1. ....don't make the mistake of assigning a higher level of integrity and honesty than anyone else. Not politicians, bureaucrats, economists, pastors....whatever. As a result of the Wuhan virus, we’ve now learned not to assign superior ability to predict, or trust the knowledge of, scientists or doctors, either.

Certainly, we learned that about bureaucrats, heads of agencies, the Deep State. Now, let's remember Doctor Fauci’s advice:

2. . “Coronavirus is not a major threat for the people in the United States, and this is not something the citizens should be worried about,” Dr. Anthony Fauci January 21st. Five days later on a podcast with the New York grocery store magnate, John Catsimatidis…. January 26:The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. Very, very low risk for the United States.” Dr. Fauci five days later, after saying coronavirus was “not a major threat for the people, not something citizens should be worried about,” he said, “It isn’t something the American people need to worry about or frightened by this.”


3. March 9th, and it’s Forbes. Dr. Fauci: “If you are a healthy young person, there’s no reason. If you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.” Remember the Song of Princess or the Virus Princess, whatever, docked or offshore in Japan where everybody on it had the virus? When was that? This Dr. Fauci in a story March 9th, Forbes:
“If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason. If you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.”

Doesn't look too good in retrospect.




4."This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’
First of all, the “experts” frequently don’t agree. When this happens, it is up to politicians and other elected or appointed individuals to decide. It is an unenviable task for sure. If you are right the “expert” gets the credit. If you are wrong, you “should’ve listened to the experts!” Not to mention that hindsight is always 20/20.

Secondly the word “expert” implies a narrow field of “expertise.” Very few experts or scientists are qualified to consider the Big Picture, and they often miss the unintended consequences.”
This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’



Of course, to trust but verify, one must need a real education, not the sort government school provides.
It's a contradictory phrase therefore meaningless.

If you trust someone there is no need to verify.

If you don't trust someone then you verify.

You can't have both


You miss the fact that it is a clever turn of words based on the political implication.

It is in the abstruse language of diplomacy.



Strange that you'd be unable to understand it, given that I gave it away here:

In 1982, Ronald Reagan asked his arms control advisory committee to conduct a review of Soviet compliance in the 25 years of arms control treaties. It was the first such concerted review ever. The answer to the question of Soviet arms controls compliance was that there was none.
West, "American Betrayal," p. 198.
Unlike Franklin Roosevelt, the great Reagan provided the so much more realistic "Trust, but verify."
 
A very wise man coined that phrase.


In 1982, Ronald Reagan asked his arms control advisory committee to conduct a review of Soviet compliance in the 25 years of arms control treaties. It was the first such concerted review ever. The answer to the question of Soviet arms controls compliance was that there was none.
West, "American Betrayal," p. 198.
Unlike Franklin Roosevelt, the great Reagan provided the so much more realistic "Trust, but verify."



Today, more than ever, it is advice all of us should take to heart.





1. ....don't make the mistake of assigning a higher level of integrity and honesty than anyone else. Not politicians, bureaucrats, economists, pastors....whatever. As a result of the Wuhan virus, we’ve now learned not to assign superior ability to predict, or trust the knowledge of, scientists or doctors, either.

Certainly, we learned that about bureaucrats, heads of agencies, the Deep State. Now, let's remember Doctor Fauci’s advice:

2. . “Coronavirus is not a major threat for the people in the United States, and this is not something the citizens should be worried about,” Dr. Anthony Fauci January 21st. Five days later on a podcast with the New York grocery store magnate, John Catsimatidis…. January 26:The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. Very, very low risk for the United States.” Dr. Fauci five days later, after saying coronavirus was “not a major threat for the people, not something citizens should be worried about,” he said, “It isn’t something the American people need to worry about or frightened by this.”


3. March 9th, and it’s Forbes. Dr. Fauci: “If you are a healthy young person, there’s no reason. If you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.” Remember the Song of Princess or the Virus Princess, whatever, docked or offshore in Japan where everybody on it had the virus? When was that? This Dr. Fauci in a story March 9th, Forbes:
“If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason. If you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.”

Doesn't look too good in retrospect.




4."This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’
First of all, the “experts” frequently don’t agree. When this happens, it is up to politicians and other elected or appointed individuals to decide. It is an unenviable task for sure. If you are right the “expert” gets the credit. If you are wrong, you “should’ve listened to the experts!” Not to mention that hindsight is always 20/20.

Secondly the word “expert” implies a narrow field of “expertise.” Very few experts or scientists are qualified to consider the Big Picture, and they often miss the unintended consequences.”
This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’



Of course, to trust but verify, one must need a real education, not the sort government school provides.
It's a contradictory phrase therefore meaningless.

If you trust someone there is no need to verify.

If you don't trust someone then you verify.

You can't have both


You miss the fact that it is a clever turn of words based on the political implication.

It is in the abstruse language of diplomacy.



Strange that you'd be unable to understand it, given that I gave it away here:

In 1982, Ronald Reagan asked his arms control advisory committee to conduct a review of Soviet compliance in the 25 years of arms control treaties. It was the first such concerted review ever. The answer to the question of Soviet arms controls compliance was that there was none.
West, "American Betrayal," p. 198.
Unlike Franklin Roosevelt, the great Reagan provided the so much more realistic "Trust, but verify."
It's the utter bullshit of politispeak.

Let's not forget that this meaningless tripe is from the same guy who claimed government was the problem but he did more to increase the size, scope, cost and debt of the government than anyone before him

The guy who passed the single largest peace time tax hike in history even though he promised to lower taxes

It amazes me how blind you Reagan lovers are to the actual facts
 
A very wise man coined that phrase.


In 1982, Ronald Reagan asked his arms control advisory committee to conduct a review of Soviet compliance in the 25 years of arms control treaties. It was the first such concerted review ever. The answer to the question of Soviet arms controls compliance was that there was none.
West, "American Betrayal," p. 198.
Unlike Franklin Roosevelt, the great Reagan provided the so much more realistic "Trust, but verify."



Today, more than ever, it is advice all of us should take to heart.





1. ....don't make the mistake of assigning a higher level of integrity and honesty than anyone else. Not politicians, bureaucrats, economists, pastors....whatever. As a result of the Wuhan virus, we’ve now learned not to assign superior ability to predict, or trust the knowledge of, scientists or doctors, either.

Certainly, we learned that about bureaucrats, heads of agencies, the Deep State. Now, let's remember Doctor Fauci’s advice:

2. . “Coronavirus is not a major threat for the people in the United States, and this is not something the citizens should be worried about,” Dr. Anthony Fauci January 21st. Five days later on a podcast with the New York grocery store magnate, John Catsimatidis…. January 26:The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. Very, very low risk for the United States.” Dr. Fauci five days later, after saying coronavirus was “not a major threat for the people, not something citizens should be worried about,” he said, “It isn’t something the American people need to worry about or frightened by this.”


3. March 9th, and it’s Forbes. Dr. Fauci: “If you are a healthy young person, there’s no reason. If you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.” Remember the Song of Princess or the Virus Princess, whatever, docked or offshore in Japan where everybody on it had the virus? When was that? This Dr. Fauci in a story March 9th, Forbes:
“If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason. If you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.”

Doesn't look too good in retrospect.




4."This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’
First of all, the “experts” frequently don’t agree. When this happens, it is up to politicians and other elected or appointed individuals to decide. It is an unenviable task for sure. If you are right the “expert” gets the credit. If you are wrong, you “should’ve listened to the experts!” Not to mention that hindsight is always 20/20.

Secondly the word “expert” implies a narrow field of “expertise.” Very few experts or scientists are qualified to consider the Big Picture, and they often miss the unintended consequences.”
This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’



Of course, to trust but verify, one must need a real education, not the sort government school provides.
It's a contradictory phrase therefore meaningless.

If you trust someone there is no need to verify.

If you don't trust someone then you verify.

You can't have both


You miss the fact that it is a clever turn of words based on the political implication.

It is in the abstruse language of diplomacy.



Strange that you'd be unable to understand it, given that I gave it away here:

In 1982, Ronald Reagan asked his arms control advisory committee to conduct a review of Soviet compliance in the 25 years of arms control treaties. It was the first such concerted review ever. The answer to the question of Soviet arms controls compliance was that there was none.
West, "American Betrayal," p. 198.
Unlike Franklin Roosevelt, the great Reagan provided the so much more realistic "Trust, but verify."
It's the utter bullshit of politispeak.

Let's not forget that this meaningless tripe is from the same guy who claimed government was the problem but he did more to increase the size, scope, cost and debt of the government than anyone before him

The guy who passed the single largest peace time tax hike in history even though he promised to lower taxes

It amazes me how blind you Reagan lovers are to the actual facts



After a lesson in understanding the language, let me give you a lesson in economics.


  1. Under Reagan, the debt went up $1.7 trillion, from $900 billion to $2.6 trillion.
  2. But….the national wealth went up $ 17 trillion
  3. Reagan's near-trillion-dollar bulge in defense spending transformed the global balance of power in favor of capitalism. Spurring a stock-market, energy, venture-capital, real-estate and employment boom, the Reagan tax-rate cuts and other pro-enterprise policies added some $17 trillion to America's private-sector assets, dwarfing the trillion-dollar rise in public-sector deficits and creating 45 million net new jobs at rising wages and salaries. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444914904577621083163383966.html
Reaganomics - Wikipedia





And the tax cuts of the Economic Recovery Act of 1981 stimulated economic growth. “As a 1982 JEC study pointed out,[1] similar across-the-board tax cuts had been implemented in the 1920s as the Mellon tax cuts, and in the 1960s as the Kennedy tax cuts. In both cases the reduction of high marginal tax rates actually increased tax payments by "the rich," also increasing their share of total individual income taxes paid.”
http://www.house.gov/jec/fiscal/tx-grwth/reagtxct/reagtxct.htm

“As inflation came down and as more and more of the tax cuts from the 1981 Act went into effect, the economic began a strong and sustained pattern of growth.”
http://www.ustreas.gov/education/fact-sheets/taxes/ustax.shtml

  1. The benefits from Reaganomics:
    1. The economy grew at a 3.4% average rate…compared with 2.9% for the previous eight years, and 2.7% for the next eight.(Table B-4)
    2. Inflation rate dropped from 12.5% to 4.4%. (Table B-63)
    3. Unemployment fell to 5.5% from 7.1% (Table B-35)
    4. Prime interest rate fell by one-third.(Table B-73)
    5. The S & P 500 jumped 124% (Table B-95) http://www.gpoaccess.gov/eop/tables10.html
    6. Charitable contributions rose 57% faster than inflation. Dinesh D’Souza, “Ronald Reagan: How an Ordinary May Became an Extraordinary Leader,” p. 116
b. and c. Kiva Lending Team: Team REAL Americans | Kiva



I'm not optimistic about your understanding this lesson any more successfully then you did the first lesson.
 
Reagan did not help families as during his time more than any I remember both adults in a family went to work just to barely scrape by. I was no fan of his
 
Reagan did not help families as during his time more than any I remember both adults in a family went to work just to barely scrape by. I was no fan of his


That is largely due to your ignorance.

I'd repost the data in post #16, but it would have no more influence on you then it would have on a stone wall.
 
A very wise man coined that phrase.


In 1982, Ronald Reagan asked his arms control advisory committee to conduct a review of Soviet compliance in the 25 years of arms control treaties. It was the first such concerted review ever. The answer to the question of Soviet arms controls compliance was that there was none.
West, "American Betrayal," p. 198.
Unlike Franklin Roosevelt, the great Reagan provided the so much more realistic "Trust, but verify."



Today, more than ever, it is advice all of us should take to heart.





1. ....don't make the mistake of assigning a higher level of integrity and honesty than anyone else. Not politicians, bureaucrats, economists, pastors....whatever. As a result of the Wuhan virus, we’ve now learned not to assign superior ability to predict, or trust the knowledge of, scientists or doctors, either.

Certainly, we learned that about bureaucrats, heads of agencies, the Deep State. Now, let's remember Doctor Fauci’s advice:

2. . “Coronavirus is not a major threat for the people in the United States, and this is not something the citizens should be worried about,” Dr. Anthony Fauci January 21st. Five days later on a podcast with the New York grocery store magnate, John Catsimatidis…. January 26:The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. Very, very low risk for the United States.” Dr. Fauci five days later, after saying coronavirus was “not a major threat for the people, not something citizens should be worried about,” he said, “It isn’t something the American people need to worry about or frightened by this.”


3. March 9th, and it’s Forbes. Dr. Fauci: “If you are a healthy young person, there’s no reason. If you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.” Remember the Song of Princess or the Virus Princess, whatever, docked or offshore in Japan where everybody on it had the virus? When was that? This Dr. Fauci in a story March 9th, Forbes:
“If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason. If you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.”

Doesn't look too good in retrospect.




4."This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’
First of all, the “experts” frequently don’t agree. When this happens, it is up to politicians and other elected or appointed individuals to decide. It is an unenviable task for sure. If you are right the “expert” gets the credit. If you are wrong, you “should’ve listened to the experts!” Not to mention that hindsight is always 20/20.

Secondly the word “expert” implies a narrow field of “expertise.” Very few experts or scientists are qualified to consider the Big Picture, and they often miss the unintended consequences.”
This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’



Of course, to trust but verify, one must need a real education, not the sort government school provides.
It's a contradictory phrase therefore meaningless.

If you trust someone there is no need to verify.

If you don't trust someone then you verify.

You can't have both


You miss the fact that it is a clever turn of words based on the political implication.

It is in the abstruse language of diplomacy.



Strange that you'd be unable to understand it, given that I gave it away here:

In 1982, Ronald Reagan asked his arms control advisory committee to conduct a review of Soviet compliance in the 25 years of arms control treaties. It was the first such concerted review ever. The answer to the question of Soviet arms controls compliance was that there was none.
West, "American Betrayal," p. 198.
Unlike Franklin Roosevelt, the great Reagan provided the so much more realistic "Trust, but verify."
It's the utter bullshit of politispeak.

Let's not forget that this meaningless tripe is from the same guy who claimed government was the problem but he did more to increase the size, scope, cost and debt of the government than anyone before him

The guy who passed the single largest peace time tax hike in history even though he promised to lower taxes

It amazes me how blind you Reagan lovers are to the actual facts



After a lesson in understanding the language, let me give you a lesson in economics.


  1. Under Reagan, the debt went up $1.7 trillion, from $900 billion to $2.6 trillion.
  2. But….the national wealth went up $ 17 trillion
  3. Reagan's near-trillion-dollar bulge in defense spending transformed the global balance of power in favor of capitalism. Spurring a stock-market, energy, venture-capital, real-estate and employment boom, the Reagan tax-rate cuts and other pro-enterprise policies added some $17 trillion to America's private-sector assets, dwarfing the trillion-dollar rise in public-sector deficits and creating 45 million net new jobs at rising wages and salaries. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444914904577621083163383966.html
Reaganomics - Wikipedia





And the tax cuts of the Economic Recovery Act of 1981 stimulated economic growth. “As a 1982 JEC study pointed out,[1] similar across-the-board tax cuts had been implemented in the 1920s as the Mellon tax cuts, and in the 1960s as the Kennedy tax cuts. In both cases the reduction of high marginal tax rates actually increased tax payments by "the rich," also increasing their share of total individual income taxes paid.”
http://www.house.gov/jec/fiscal/tx-grwth/reagtxct/reagtxct.htm

“As inflation came down and as more and more of the tax cuts from the 1981 Act went into effect, the economic began a strong and sustained pattern of growth.”
http://www.ustreas.gov/education/fact-sheets/taxes/ustax.shtml

  1. The benefits from Reaganomics:
    1. The economy grew at a 3.4% average rate…compared with 2.9% for the previous eight years, and 2.7% for the next eight.(Table B-4)
    2. Inflation rate dropped from 12.5% to 4.4%. (Table B-63)
    3. Unemployment fell to 5.5% from 7.1% (Table B-35)
    4. Prime interest rate fell by one-third.(Table B-73)
    5. The S & P 500 jumped 124% (Table B-95) http://www.gpoaccess.gov/eop/tables10.html
    6. Charitable contributions rose 57% faster than inflation. Dinesh D’Souza, “Ronald Reagan: How an Ordinary May Became an Extraordinary Leader,” p. 116
b. and c. Kiva Lending Team: Team REAL Americans | Kiva



I'm not optimistic about your understanding this lesson any more successfully then you did the first lesson.

And it doesn't matter to you that Reagan basically wiped out his initial tax cuts with the single largest peace time tax hike in history?

Or that he started the trend of trillion dollar debt.

Or that he flat out lied about being a small government politician

Take off your blinders
 
A very wise man coined that phrase.


In 1982, Ronald Reagan asked his arms control advisory committee to conduct a review of Soviet compliance in the 25 years of arms control treaties. It was the first such concerted review ever. The answer to the question of Soviet arms controls compliance was that there was none.
West, "American Betrayal," p. 198.
Unlike Franklin Roosevelt, the great Reagan provided the so much more realistic "Trust, but verify."



Today, more than ever, it is advice all of us should take to heart.





1. ....don't make the mistake of assigning a higher level of integrity and honesty than anyone else. Not politicians, bureaucrats, economists, pastors....whatever. As a result of the Wuhan virus, we’ve now learned not to assign superior ability to predict, or trust the knowledge of, scientists or doctors, either.

Certainly, we learned that about bureaucrats, heads of agencies, the Deep State. Now, let's remember Doctor Fauci’s advice:

2. . “Coronavirus is not a major threat for the people in the United States, and this is not something the citizens should be worried about,” Dr. Anthony Fauci January 21st. Five days later on a podcast with the New York grocery store magnate, John Catsimatidis…. January 26:The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. Very, very low risk for the United States.” Dr. Fauci five days later, after saying coronavirus was “not a major threat for the people, not something citizens should be worried about,” he said, “It isn’t something the American people need to worry about or frightened by this.”


3. March 9th, and it’s Forbes. Dr. Fauci: “If you are a healthy young person, there’s no reason. If you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.” Remember the Song of Princess or the Virus Princess, whatever, docked or offshore in Japan where everybody on it had the virus? When was that? This Dr. Fauci in a story March 9th, Forbes:
“If you are a healthy young person, there is no reason. If you want to go on a cruise ship, go on a cruise ship.”

Doesn't look too good in retrospect.




4."This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’
First of all, the “experts” frequently don’t agree. When this happens, it is up to politicians and other elected or appointed individuals to decide. It is an unenviable task for sure. If you are right the “expert” gets the credit. If you are wrong, you “should’ve listened to the experts!” Not to mention that hindsight is always 20/20.

Secondly the word “expert” implies a narrow field of “expertise.” Very few experts or scientists are qualified to consider the Big Picture, and they often miss the unintended consequences.”
This expert says ‘Don’t trust the experts’



Of course, to trust but verify, one must need a real education, not the sort government school provides.



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