Trump's Explanation of Why He Fired Yevgeny (Eugene) Vindman

[airplanemechanic]

Oh, he doesn't have one.

Care to explain why Obama fired every single Ambassador from the Bush administration when he started.

Outrage?

It’s not outrage. It’s false. You see, there’s two kinds of ambassadors. There’s career foreign service like Yovanovich who worked her way up through the ranks by excelling. Then there’s political patronage appointments like Sondland who donated a few million to Republicans and so gets to be an ambassador as payback.

Obama fired every patronage appointee, because that’s what everyone does. He did not fire all the career diplomats. If memory serves me, political patronage appointees is a small percentage, maybe 20% or so? I’d have to look it up again. It’s been a while.

Guys did you know there are two "kinds" of ambassadors? The ones Obama fired, and the ones Trump fired!

Laughing at your own ignorance?

No, just at you and crabgrass.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Oh, he doesn't have one.

He didn't fire him. Why do you lie?

 

[airplanemechanic]

Trump violated the law.

18 U.S. Code § 1513 - Retaliating against a witness, victim, or an informant

Retaliation doesn't mean he's untouchable now that he flapped his gums. Trump could fire him before he ran his mouth, he can fire him after. Or whatever he legally did to get him out. Fire him, throw him out on his ass, can him, whatever term you want to use.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Oh, he doesn't have one.

Being a scum-sucking, two-timing, back-stabbing, self-appointed, pompous, disloyal traitor to the President of the USA conspiring behind his back with delusions of godhood that he somehow knew better and was in charge of deciding foreign policy rather than merely carrying it out and with a creepy name like Yevgeny Vindman is good enough for me.

The very fact that had this crumb betrayed and tried to wrest authority and control over policy and testified against Obama, Biden or Hillary for any of their foreign crimes that we know happened in large number, you'd be on here today denouncing him as the lowest of the low!

So, Jack Daniels, I suggest you take Vindman since you love him so much, and go lick his ball sweat and lap up the dingles hanging off his ass. The very fact that you join here to defend him is proof positive that firing him was the absolute right thing to do because once again, Donald has stuck your plans in the dumper.

One more POS inside democrat confidant traitor leaker not to have to worry about. Notice is now served to all.

Actually, the guy who allegedly did that was his brother, Alexander. Yevgeny didn't have anything to do with the impeachment process.

He was his brother's lawyer and thus supported his claims. The Security Council has no need for an ethics lawyer with no ethics.

 

[mudwhistle]

Vindman is the source for the Whistleblower and Vindman was caught committing perjury during testimony......

Can you quit with that falsehood, please?

I never started.
Maybe you should rethink your information sources.

Maybe you should supply some "information sources" backing up those accusations.

I get it from a bunch of sources. Try clicking on a linked post in Twitter or Facebook and actually read about the subject instead of taking CNN's word for everything.

Twitter and Facebook aren't news sources, and you are apparently just taking repeated gossip and unfounded accusations as "evidence." Because there has never been any support whatsoever for your allegations. Barbara whatsherface brought it up as conjecture and it flew around like gospel, but there is no evidence whatever to support it.
And I don't watch CNN.

The linked sources that are sometimes on Twitter and Facebook posts can be revealing. Just reading a post won't tell you much, but they at times contain links to actual news sources. If you listen to any cable news it won't give you the whole story.....only part of it....

....point being....i'm not making this shit up.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Oh, he doesn't have one.

The NSC is part of the President's staff, and they all serve at his pleasure. The President fired all of the Obama holdovers to the NSC, including the Vindman's, 70 people in all. Obama vastly expanded the NSC to 200 people and President Trump is going to return it to pre Obama levels, about 100 people.

Bigger than Vindman: Trump scrubs 70 Obama holdovers from NSC

 

[Rigby5]

{...
“I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine,” Alex Vindman said in the written statement he was giving to Congress on Trump.
...}

Clearly Vindman is lying.
The ONLY legal and moral way to investigate possible wrong conduct in another country is to have that country do it.
It is only NOT investigating the actions of US citizens in foreign countries that is clearly illegal.

 

[airplanemechanic]

{...
“I did not think it was proper to demand that a foreign government investigate a U.S. citizen, and I was worried about the implications for the U.S. government’s support of Ukraine,” Alex Vindman said in the written statement he was giving to Congress on Trump.
...}

Clearly Vindman is lying.
The ONLY legal and moral way to investigate possible wrong conduct in another country is to have that country do it.
It is only NOT investigating the actions of US citizens in foreign countries that is clearly illegal.

And I've already pointed this out to some of the really stupid liberals on here (I know, it's hard to tell them apart). In another country the USA can't investigate. They have no authority. So what does one REALLY STUPID liberal say? "But they investigated Benghazi!" Yea you stupid fucking moron, Benghazi WAS OUR FUCKING EMBASSY. That's considered US soil!

 

[LeftofLeft]

Oh, he doesn't have one.

There is no need to provide one. Rationally speaking and thinking, how and why would you expect a President to retain someone who tried to get him or her removed in an Impeachment that results in an acquittal? Did Vindman lose his job from the military? Did he get demoted or lose pay?

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Oh, he doesn't have one.

Similar the Senate not requiring witnesses, Trump doesn't need to give a reason. They're implied.

Accept it at another Democrat/PROG defeat, it's become their comfort zone anyhow.

 

[OldLady]

Can you quit with that falsehood, please?

I never started.
Maybe you should rethink your information sources.

Maybe you should supply some "information sources" backing up those accusations.

I get it from a bunch of sources. Try clicking on a linked post in Twitter or Facebook and actually read about the subject instead of taking CNN's word for everything.

Twitter and Facebook aren't news sources, and you are apparently just taking repeated gossip and unfounded accusations as "evidence." Because there has never been any support whatsoever for your allegations. Barbara whatsherface brought it up as conjecture and it flew around like gospel, but there is no evidence whatever to support it.
And I don't watch CNN.

The linked sources that are sometimes on Twitter and Facebook posts can be revealing. Just reading a post won't tell you much, but they at times contain links to actual news sources. If you listen to any cable news it won't give you the whole story.....only part of it....

....point being....i'm not making this shit up.

Then let's see a valid link to a verifiable source. Since you've seen so many. Please.

 

[Nostra]

Anyone demand explanations from the negro marxist messiah on why he purged the military during his negro presidency?


List Of Military Elite Purged
And Fired Under Obama

Compiled By General Paul Vallely
3-17-14


Here is the list of our military elite who have been purged or fired under Obama:
Commanding Generals fired:


· General John R. Allen-U.S. Marines Commander International Security Assistance Force [ISAF] (Nov 2012)
· Major General Ralph Baker (2 Star)-U.S. Army Commander of the Combined Joint Task Force Horn in Africa (April 2013)
· Major General Michael Carey (2 Star)-U.S. Air Force Commander of the 20th US Air Force in charge of 9,600 people and 450 Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (Oct 2013)
· Colonel James Christmas-U.S. Marines Commander 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit & Commander Special-Purpose Marine Air-Ground Task Force Crisis Response Unit (July 2013)
· Major General Peter Fuller-U.S. Army Commander in Afghanistan (May 2011)
· Major General Charles M.M. Gurganus-U.S. Marine Corps Regional Commander of SW and I Marine Expeditionary Force in Afghanistan (Oct 2013)
· General Carter F. Ham-U.S. Army African Command (Oct 2013)
· Lieutenant General David H. Huntoon (3 Star), Jr.-U.S. Army 58th Superintendent of the US Military Academy at West Point, NY (2013)
· Command Sergeant Major Don B Jordan-U.S. Army 143rd Expeditionary Sustainment Command (suspended Oct 2013)
· General James Mattis-U.S. Marines Chief of CentCom (May 2013)
· Colonel Daren Margolin-U.S. Marine in charge of Quantico's Security Battalion (Oct 2013)
· General Stanley McChrystal-U.S. Army Commander Afghanistan (June 2010)
· General David D. McKiernan-U.S. Army Commander Afghanistan (2009)
· General David Petraeus-Director of CIA from September 2011 to November 2012 & U.S. Army Commander International Security Assistance Force [ISAF] and Commander U.S. Forces Afghanistan [USFOR-A] (Nov 2012)
· Brigadier General Bryan Roberts-U.S. Army Commander 2nd Brigade (May 2013)
· Major General Gregg A. Sturdevant-U.S. Marine Corps Director of Strategic Planning and Policy for the U.S. Pacific Command & Commander of Aviation Wing at Camp Bastion, Afghanistan (Sept 2013)
· Colonel Eric Tilley-U.S. Army Commander of Garrison Japan (Nov 2013)
· Brigadier General Bryan Wampler-U.S. Army Commanding General of 143rd Expeditionary Sustainment Command of the 1st Theater Sustainment Command [TSC] (suspended Oct 2013)

Commanding Admirals fired:
· Rear Admiral Charles Gaouette-U.S. Navy Commander John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group Three (Oct 2012)
· Vice Admiral Tim Giardina(3 Star, demoted to 2 Star)-U.S. Navy Deputy Commander of the US Strategic Command, Commander of the Submarine Group Trident, Submarine Group 9 and Submarine Group 10 (Oct 2013)

Naval Officers fired: (All in 2011)
· Captain David Geisler-U.S. Navy Commander Task Force 53 in Bahrain (Oct 2011)
· Commander Laredo Bell-U.S. Navy Commander Naval Support Activity Saratoga Springs, NY (Aug 2011)
· Lieutenant Commander Kurt Boenisch-Executive Officer amphibious transport dock Ponce (Apr 2011)
· Commander Nathan Borchers-U.S. Navy Commander destroyer Stout (Mar 2011)
· Commander Robert Brown-U.S. Navy Commander Beachmaster Unit 2 Fort Story, VA (Aug 2011)
· Commander Andrew Crowe-Executive Officer Navy Region Center Singapore (Apr 2011)
· Captain Robert Gamberg-Executive Officer carrier Dwight D. Eisenhower (Jun 2011)
· Captain Rex Guinn-U.S. Navy Commander Navy Legal Service office Japan (Feb 2011)
· Commander Kevin Harms- U.S. Navy Commander Strike Fighter Squadron 137 aboard the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln (Mar 2011)
· Lieutenant Commander Martin Holguin-U.S. Navy Commander mine countermeasures Fearless (Oct 2011)
· Captain Owen Honors-U.S. Navy Commander aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (Jan 2011)
· Captain Donald Hornbeck-U.S. Navy Commander Destroyer Squadron 1 San Diego
(Apr 2011)
· Rear Admiral Ron Horton-U.S. Navy Commander Logistics Group, Western Pacific
(Mar 2011)
· Commander Etta Jones-U.S. Navy Commander amphibious transport dock Ponce (Apr 2011)
· Commander Ralph Jones-Executive Officer amphibious transport dock Green Bay (Jul 2011)
· Commander Jonathan Jackson-U.S. Navy Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 134, deployed aboard carrier Carl Vinson (Dec 2011)
· Captain Eric Merrill-U.S. Navy Commander submarine Emory S. Land (Jul 2011)
· Captain William Mosk-U.S. Navy Commander Naval Station Rota, U.S. Navy Commander Naval Activities Spain (Apr 2011)
· Commander Timothy Murphy-U.S. Navy Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 129 at Naval Air Station Whidbey Island, WA (Apr 2011)
· Commander Joseph Nosse-U.S. Navy Commander ballistic-missile submarine Kentucky (Oct 2011)
· Commander Mark Olson-U.S. Navy Commander destroyer The Sullivans FL (Sep 2011)
· Commander John Pethel-Executive Officer amphibious transport dock New York (Dec 2011)
· Commander Karl Pugh-U.S. Navy Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 141 Whidbey Island, WA (Jul 2011)
· Commander Jason Strength-U.S. Navy Commander of Navy Recruiting District Nashville, TN (Jul 2011)
· Captain Greg Thomas-U.S. Navy Commander Norfolk Naval Shipyard (May 2011)
· Commander Mike Varney-U.S. Navy Commander attack submarine Connecticut (Jun 2011)
· Commander Jay Wylie-U.S. Navy Commander destroyer Momsen (Apr 2011)
Naval Officers fired: (All in 2012):
· Commander Alan C. Aber-Executive Officer Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron 71 (July 2012)
· Commander Derick Armstrong- U.S. Navy Commander missile destroyer USS The Sullivans (May 2012)
· Commander Martin Arriola- U.S. Navy Commander destroyer USS Porter (Aug 2012)
· Captain Antonio Cardoso- U.S. Navy Commander Training Support Center San Diego (Sep 2012)
· Captain James CoBell- U.S. Navy Commander Oceana Naval Air Station's Fleet Readiness Center Mid-Atlantic (Sep 2012)
· Captain Joseph E. Darlak- U.S. Navy Commander frigate USS Vandegrift (Nov 2012)
· Captain Daniel Dusek-U.S. Navy Commander USS Bonhomme
· Commander David Faught-Executive Officer destroyer Chung-Hoon (Sep 2012)
· Commander Franklin Fernandez- U.S. Navy Commander Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 24 (Aug 2012)
· Commander Ray Hartman- U.S. Navy Commander Amphibious dock-landing ship Fort McHenry (Nov 2012)
· Commander Shelly Hakspiel-Executive Officer Navy Drug Screening Lab San Diego (May 2012)
· Commander Jon Haydel- U.S. Navy Commander USS San Diego (Mar 2012)
· Commander Diego Hernandez- U.S. Navy Commander ballistic-missile submarine USS Wyoming (Feb 2012)
· Commander Lee Hoey- U.S. Navy Commander Drug Screening Laboratory, San Diego (May 2012)
· Commander Ivan Jimenez-Executive Officer frigate Vandegrift (Nov 2012)
· Commander Dennis Klein- U.S. Navy Commander submarine USS Columbia (May 2012)
· Captain Chuck Litchfield- U.S. Navy Commander assault ship USS Essex (Jun 2012)
· Captain Marcia Kim Lyons- U.S. Navy Commander Naval Health Clinic New England (Apr 2012)
· Captain Robert Marin- U.S. Navy Commander cruiser USS Cowpens (Feb 2012)
· Captain Sean McDonell- U.S. Navy Commander Seabee reserve unit Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 14 FL (Nov 2012)
· Commander Corrine Parker- U.S. Navy Commander Fleet Logistics Support Squadron 1 (Apr 2012)


That is half of the list.....

And yet another IQ2 thread goes down in flames.

 

[jc456]

Trump violated the law.

18 U.S. Code § 1513 - Retaliating against a witness, victim, or an informant

Retaliation doesn't mean he's untouchable now that he flapped his gums. Trump could fire him before he ran his mouth, he can fire him after. Or whatever he legally did to get him out. Fire him, throw him out on his ass, can him, whatever term you want to use.

he wasn't fired though.

 

[BlindBoo]

Oh, he doesn't have one.

Care to explain why Obama fired every single Ambassador from the Bush administration when he started.

Outrage?

It’s not outrage. It’s false. You see, there’s two kinds of ambassadors. There’s career foreign service like Yovanovich who worked her way up through the ranks by excelling. Then there’s political patronage appointments like Sondland who donated a few million to Republicans and so gets to be an ambassador as payback.

Obama fired every patronage appointee, because that’s what everyone does. He did not fire all the career diplomats. If memory serves me, political patronage appointees is a small percentage, maybe 20% or so? I’d have to look it up again. It’s been a while.

Guys did you know there are two "kinds" of ambassadors? The ones Obama fired, and the ones Trump fired!

Laughing at your own ignorance?

No, just at you and crabgrass.

Equivocation. As if Trumpybears' actions with regard to Ambassador Yovanovitch were like Obama's, or any other President for that matter, taking over at the beginning of their term. SOP.

I believe Vindman is still employed by someone, unlike Sondland.

 

[jc456]

Care to explain why Obama fired every single Ambassador from the Bush administration when he started.

Outrage?

It’s not outrage. It’s false. You see, there’s two kinds of ambassadors. There’s career foreign service like Yovanovich who worked her way up through the ranks by excelling. Then there’s political patronage appointments like Sondland who donated a few million to Republicans and so gets to be an ambassador as payback.

Obama fired every patronage appointee, because that’s what everyone does. He did not fire all the career diplomats. If memory serves me, political patronage appointees is a small percentage, maybe 20% or so? I’d have to look it up again. It’s been a while.

Guys did you know there are two "kinds" of ambassadors? The ones Obama fired, and the ones Trump fired!

Laughing at your own ignorance?

No, just at you and crabgrass.

Equivocation. As if Trumpybears' actions with regard to Ambassador Yovanovitch were like Obama's, or any other President for that matter, taking over at the beginning of their term. SOP.

I believe Vindman is still employed by someone, unlike Sondland.

serves at the pleasure, not the displeasure.

 

[IM2]

"says the vindictive side doing all this crap because they don't like the politics of people.

trump - since the day he took office
kavanaugh - cause he may be conservative on issues

so don't give me that shit. tired of asswhipes on either side bitching about shit then going out and doing it just the same."

Trump violated laws. Kavanaugh did also. Gorsuch was conservative and confirmed, so your claim about Kavanaugh has no merit.

Link to the specific statutes they violated, and the acts that violated those statutes.

Watch this.............your demented lies are too easy to expose.

Funny how you never can do it.

18 U.S. Code § 1513 - Retaliating against a witness, victim, or an informant

 

[IM2]

Care to explain why Obama fired every single Ambassador from the Bush administration when he started.

Outrage?

It’s not outrage. It’s false. You see, there’s two kinds of ambassadors. There’s career foreign service like Yovanovich who worked her way up through the ranks by excelling. Then there’s political patronage appointments like Sondland who donated a few million to Republicans and so gets to be an ambassador as payback.

Obama fired every patronage appointee, because that’s what everyone does. He did not fire all the career diplomats. If memory serves me, political patronage appointees is a small percentage, maybe 20% or so? I’d have to look it up again. It’s been a while.

Guys did you know there are two "kinds" of ambassadors? The ones Obama fired, and the ones Trump fired!

Laughing at your own ignorance?

No, just at you and crabgrass.

Equivocation. As if Trumpybears' actions with regard to Ambassador Yovanovitch were like Obama's, or any other President for that matter, taking over at the beginning of their term. SOP.

I believe Vindman is still employed by someone, unlike Sondland.

Sondland owns hotels. But that still doesn't excuse the illegal actions trump committed.

 

[mudwhistle]

I never started.
Maybe you should rethink your information sources.

Maybe you should supply some "information sources" backing up those accusations.

I get it from a bunch of sources. Try clicking on a linked post in Twitter or Facebook and actually read about the subject instead of taking CNN's word for everything.

Twitter and Facebook aren't news sources, and you are apparently just taking repeated gossip and unfounded accusations as "evidence." Because there has never been any support whatsoever for your allegations. Barbara whatsherface brought it up as conjecture and it flew around like gospel, but there is no evidence whatever to support it.
And I don't watch CNN.

The linked sources that are sometimes on Twitter and Facebook posts can be revealing. Just reading a post won't tell you much, but they at times contain links to actual news sources. If you listen to any cable news it won't give you the whole story.....only part of it....

....point being....i'm not making this shit up.

Then let's see a valid link to a verifiable source. Since you've seen so many. Please.

Do your own homework, lady.

I post this stuff with links daily.

 

[IM2]

Trump violated the law.

18 U.S. Code § 1513 - Retaliating against a witness, victim, or an informant

Vindman served at the pleasure of the President. Do you know what that means?

That means Trump can fire him because he doesn't like his tie, moron.

He can't fire in in retaliation for testifying, which is what he did. And he really can't fire someone because he doesn't like his tie. BFOQ. Know what that means?

 

[Nostra]

"says the vindictive side doing all this crap because they don't like the politics of people.

trump - since the day he took office
kavanaugh - cause he may be conservative on issues

so don't give me that shit. tired of asswhipes on either side bitching about shit then going out and doing it just the same."

Trump violated laws. Kavanaugh did also. Gorsuch was conservative and confirmed, so your claim about Kavanaugh has no merit.

Link to the specific statutes they violated, and the acts that violated those statutes.

Watch this.............your demented lies are too easy to expose.

Funny how you never can do it.

18 U.S. Code § 1513 - Retaliating against a witness, victim, or an informant

"Serves at the pleasure of the President".

Go get an education on what that means, Moron.