Trump supporters are liberals.

[justoffal]

It actually is some bad company....It's exactly those "moderates" who kept the steady dripdripdrip of cultural Marxism going in its earliest days, which brought us to where we are now.....With nearly no opposition from the penny loafer country club republicans, we're left with a soft socialist to grab the mantle of "conservatism", to further burnish the Orwellian bastardization of reality.

Dodd Frank was the best thing that happened to Wall Street in a century of financial law making. Aside from that yes...some of the idiot Dems decided to force sub prime lending based on Political correctness not economic good sense. That formed a base for the floating of the elite financial products that infected the mortgage bundles and derivatives traded on an international basis. Little did they know they were trading time bombs though many a financial writer sounded the horn loudly for at least five years. But the GOP was right in there with them....how many GOP senators and congressmen had stakes in countrywide mortgage along with numerous money mad dems? Dozens of them I'll tell you, Barney had his hand in the cookie jar too.....but at least he did some good here and there.

 

[Oddball]

Dodd Frank was the best thing that happened to Wall Street in a century of financial law making. Aside from that yes...some of the idiot Dems decided to force sub prime lending based on Political correctness not economic good sense. That formed a base for the floating of the elite financial products that infected the mortgage bundles and derivatives traded on an international basis. Little did they know they were trading time bombs though many a financial writer sounded the horn loudly for at least five years. But the GOP was right in there with them....how many GOP senators and congressmen had stakes in countrywide mortgage along with numerous money mad dems? Dozens of them I'll tell you, Barney had his hand in the cookie jar too.....but at least he did some good here and there.

The problems with the weak knees of the penny loafer country club republicans goes clean back to Eisenhower, at least.....The GOP slouch into soft socialist neoconservatism didn't begin in the 1980s.

 

[Missourian]

Fair enough...Even so, the OP is right; Trump's policies are those of a mid-80s democrat.

That's the only reason he got the nomination.

Until we weight our primaries to states that actually have a chance of putting electors in the win column, this is the best we're going to do.

California, New York, Massachusetts, Maryland...they aren't going to elect a Republican...but have the same say in our nomination process as the states that actually want a more conservative candidate.

Trump snuck though because he was a Northeasterner. It fucked up the bias in the system. But to get that...to break the hold...you are going to have to settle for some Northeastern values...or...revamp the system.

 

[Oddball]

That's the only reason he got the nomination.

Until we weight our primaries to states that actually have a chance of putting electors in the win column, this is the best we're going to do.

California, New York, Massachusetts, Maryland...they aren't going to elect a Republican...but have the same say in our nomination process as the states that actually want a more conservative candidate.

Trump snuck though because he was a Northeasterner. It fucked up the bias in the system. But to get that...to break the hold...you are going to have to settle for some Northeastern values...or...revamp the system.

I don't have to settle for jack shit....That's why I dropped out.

But at least you're honest to yourself about what you're getting....So you got that going for you.

 

[Missourian]

I don't have to settle for jack shit....That's why I dropped out.

But at least you're honest to yourself about what you're getting....So you got that going for you.

Pragmatism. Better 80% of a loaf than no loaf at all.

Hell...IMO Trump is far and away the best President that we've had in my adult life.



The last great president came out of California... reinforcing my primary theory.

 

[Oddball]

Pragmatism. Better 80% of a loaf than no loaf at all.

That's exactly the kind of "pragmatism" that got Murica into this mess.

Hell...IMO Trump is far and away the best President that we've had in my adult life.

That only is on account of the weakness of the rest of the field....The able-bodied winning at the Special Olympics.

 

[Mac1958]

Trumpism isn't about the issues. It's about rage.

 

[eagle1462010]

Trumpism isn't about the issues. It's about rage.

Yeah yeah. Right now they are threatening Justices.

Ummm. Oops. Thats the Far left doing it again.

Riddle me this. Roe gets overturned what abortion laws in New York get overturned. Thanks

 

[Missourian]

That's exactly the kind of "pragmatism" that got Murica into this mess.

That only is on account of the weakness of the rest of the field....The able-bodied winning at the Special Olympics.

Pragmatism got us Trump ... and Trump has changed the structure of the Republican Party.

The Bushs and the Romneys and the Grahams and the McConnells are being shoved out the door and a more populist right is taking charge of the party.

We're much more Ron Paul's party today than we are George Bush's.


You want to work outside the system...you do you.

I'd rather work inside the system to bend it to the outcome that I want.

 

[YoursTruly]

Pragmatism got us Trump ... and Trump has changed the structure of the Republican Party.

The Bushs and the Romneys and the Grahams and the McConnells are being shoved out the door and a more populist right is taking charge of the party.

We're much more Ron Paul's party today than we are George Bush's.


You want to work outside the system...you do you.

I'd rather work inside the system to bend it to the outcome that I want.

We're not even close to Ron Paul or the 2007 Tea party. You're just brainwashed into thinking that. Sorry pal, but that's the facts.
Trump and 90% of the GOP in DC are at best moderate democrats.

 

[Missourian]

We're not even close to Ron Paul or the 2007 Tea party.

I'd agree...but we're closer than we were when Romney, Bush, McCain and Dole were the standard bearers of the party.

So... What exactly are you doing to change that?

How many Tea Party candidates have you gotten elected?

How many non establishment outsiders?

You bitch a lot about Trump.

What else do you do.

Cuz that's not winning anyone over to your cause.

It just turns folks off.

 

[eagle1462010]

I support Trump. Roarinf economy. 5 milliin bpd oil productuon. Til the Globalist fucked the world.

3 Scotus picks. Now let me see. Vote 3rd party as Yours Truly. And get Hillary and a Leftist court.

Sure I'll do that when Hell Freezes Over. Alabama +1 Senate last Election. Made sure Sessions didnt come back. Roll Tide

 

[justoffal]

The problems with the weak knees of the penny loafer country club republicans goes clean back to Eisenhower, at least.....The GOP slouch into soft socialist neoconservatism didn't begin in the 1980s.

Pragmatism. Better 80% of a loaf than no loaf at all.

Hell...IMO Trump is far and away the best President that we've had in my adult life.



The last great president came out of California... reinforcing my primary theory.

Yeah....he probably is the guy who did the most FOR this country or at least tried.

 

[basquebromance]