Trump leads all in new primary poll...

[YoursTruly]

every company or business in the country uses energy, when energy prices go up they must raise prices to survive. raising prices are what is called inflation. Then the idiots in DC make it worse by deficit spending which reduces the value of every dollar--------and yes, both parties are guilty.

What you miss, or refuse to understand, is that all of the economic indicators were up and rising during Trump's 4 years and all of those same indicators are down now due to senile joe.

Inflation is simply having too much money in the economy.

I didn't miss anything. The economy was adjusting to all the new money that Obama injected into the economy. Which is part of the recovery stage, that leads to the economy boom cycle. Which is what we were in when Trump was in office.
Economic recovery stage. The boom cycle. Government injects trillions into the economy from borrowed money. Then the economic down turn starts over (the economic bust cycle)

It's been this way since 1980. Over and over and over. This time was different because of covid. So many business shut down, people off work.

The debt ceiling rose 3 times under Trump, until he eliminated it completely for 2 years.

 

[Redfish]

Inflation is simply having too much money in the economy.

I didn't miss anything. The economy was adjusting to all the new money that Obama injected into the economy. Which is part of the recovery stage, that leads to the economy boom cycle. Which is what we were in when Trump was in office.
Economic recovery stage. The boom cycle. Government injects trillions into the economy from borrowed money. Then the economic down turn starts over (the economic bust cycle)

It's been this way since 1980. Over and over and over. This time was different because of covid. So many business shut down, people off work.

The debt ceiling rose 3 times under Trump, until he eliminated it completely for 2 years.

you are right, inflation is the result of too much unbacked money being printed or borrowed by the government. The more dollars there are the less each one is worth (econ 101). But you ignore the economic laws of supply and demand on every other commodity (like energy). When the supply is reduced, the price goes up. Biden reduced the supply so the energy inflation in on him, and only him.

Since you posted a debt chart, how much will senile joe add in his 4 years?

 

[Faun]

you are right, inflation is the result of too much unbacked money being printed or borrowed by the government. The more dollars there are the less each one is worth (econ 101). But you ignore the economic laws of supply and demand on every other commodity (like energy). When the supply is reduced, the price goes up. Biden reduced the supply so the energy inflation in on him, and only him.

Since you posted a debt chart, how much will senile joe add in his 4 years?

Huh? How did Biden reduce the supply??

 

[YoursTruly]

you are right, inflation is the result of too much unbacked money being printed or borrowed by the government. The more dollars there are the less each one is worth (econ 101). But you ignore the economic laws of supply and demand on every other commodity (like energy). When the supply is reduced, the price goes up. Biden reduced the supply so the energy inflation in on him, and only him.

Since you posted a debt chart, how much will senile joe add in his 4 years?

Agreed. Supply and demand is a factor. I've never claimed it wasn't. But there are instances where it's only used as an excuse.
For example, in 2020 the demand for oil/gas bottomed out. And yet prices rose.

We can discuss the effects of the demented one all day long, in a Biden thread. But this is about Trump. Please leave your whataboutism at the door. Trump is a candidate for the GOP in the next election. He's the one that a lot of Republicans are wanting to run the country.
But why? At the moment, they're all bashing Biden for legit reasons. He borrows and spends too much. Wants the debt ceiling increased so he can borrow and spend more. So I can completely understand why they don't want him for president.
But Trump did that same exact thing. So my question is, why do they only oppose the spending, borrowing and debt ceiling increases when a democrat is in office?

Us fiscal conservatives don't care who's doing it, or what party they belong too. We oppose the actions for their effects on us. (inflation, cost of living etc etc etc). And we oppose ANYONE who does it.
Why won't the Trump supporters do that?

 

[YoursTruly]

Huh? How did Biden reduce the supply??

He didn't. Nor did he increase the supply. The oil companies have full control over all that.

 

[Billo_Really]

No surprise here.

It's going to be the Democrats worst nightmare...Trump 2024.

Watch them squirm in this thread.

The Establishment Never Trumpers and the Democrats are united in opposing Donald Trump.

That tells you all you need to know...

Trump tops DeSantis in fresh 2024 GOP presidential primary poll, other potential candidates in single digits

Former President Donald Trump leads a field of actual and potential Republican presidential contenders in a new national poll looking at the growing but still hypothetical 2024 GOP race

www.foxnews.com

Half this country is fucked up if they vote for Trump. He is a cancer to everything that takes a breadth on planet earth.

 

[YoursTruly]

Half this country is fucked up if they vote for Trump. He is a cancer to everything that takes a breadth on planet earth.

Trumps not as bad as the dems make him out to be. But he's not near as good as his worshippers make him out either.

 

[Billo_Really]

Trumps not as bad as the dems make him out to be. But he's not near as good as his worshippers make him out either.

I just love hating the guy! It's fun!

 

[Redfish]

Agreed. Supply and demand is a factor. I've never claimed it wasn't. But there are instances where it's only used as an excuse.
For example, in 2020 the demand for oil/gas bottomed out. And yet prices rose.

We can discuss the effects of the demented one all day long, in a Biden thread. But this is about Trump. Please leave your whataboutism at the door. Trump is a candidate for the GOP in the next election. He's the one that a lot of Republicans are wanting to run the country.
But why? At the moment, they're all bashing Biden for legit reasons. He borrows and spends too much. Wants the debt ceiling increased so he can borrow and spend more. So I can completely understand why they don't want him for president.
But Trump did that same exact thing. So my question is, why do they only oppose the spending, borrowing and debt ceiling increases when a democrat is in office?

Us fiscal conservatives don't care who's doing it, or what party they belong too. We oppose the actions for their effects on us. (inflation, cost of living etc etc etc). And we oppose ANYONE who does it.
Why won't the Trump supporters do that?

most of Trump's spending was to fight the covid invasion from China. Energy prices were low and the stock market was rising. Unemployment was at record lows, he started no new wars and got us out of the mess in Afghanistan (even though senile joe fucked up the final withdrawal).

Take covid out of the equation and Trump's years were record setting for the USA in every positive way.

 

[YoursTruly]

most of Trump's spending was to fight the covid invasion from China. Energy prices were low and the stock market was rising. Unemployment was at record lows, he started no new wars and got us out of the mess in Afghanistan (even though senile joe fucked up the final withdrawal).

Take covid out of the equation and Trump's years were record setting for the USA in every positive way.

The president has almost nothing to do with oil prices or the stock market. Both of those fluctuate on their own, in cycles.
Over 1/2 of Trumps covid money went to people and corporations who
1. Didn't need it.
2. Wasn't effected by covid.
So if you wanna discuss the covid money, let's discuss how much Trump gave Pfizer and the other two for their so called vaccine. In which Trump still praises as the "greatest medical miracle of all time."

Take the covid money out of it, and you still have a big spending liberal. His first spending bill was like $1.4 trillion that funded Planned Parenthood and gender studies in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Things like this are things you'll bash Biden over (legitimately), but don't say a word about it when Trump did it.

The north eastern liberal OWNS you. He's pulled you people so far to the left, you can't even see center anymore.