Trump funnels record subsidies to farmers

[colfax_m]

You keep using that word.
I do not think that it means what you think that it means.

From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs.

 

[Blues Man]

Farm subsides need to be done away with.

I enjoy food.

You incorrectly assume that ending farm subsidies would end all farms.

Ten Reasons to Cut Farm Subsidies

www.cato.org

End Farm Subsidies by Brian Phillips | Capitalism Magazine

According to the Small Business Administration, 50 percent of all new businesses fail within the first five years. There are many reasons why so many businesses fail, such as an insufficient demand for the product or service, an inability to obtain capital, or production inefficiencies...

www.capitalismmagazine.com

actually, it controls the flow of food, so food isn't sitting in silos rotting. Fields planting different crop when that crop is needed. so many other programs that bring food to the grocer.

Your links are laughable. trade, fk china.
and every program known to made is corrupt. every fking one of them. shut it all down. Why give GM a bailout? what was that about? I never agreed to that. What about Chrysler earlier? What about all the green initiative subsidies? I never see any one of you anti farmers shitting on those programs. Stop spending period. stop it all then. use that mantra,

No farm subsidies actually restrict the availability of a variety of foods by encouraging monoculture farming. And monoculture farming is actually killing our soil and harming the environment.

You assume I am in favor of so called green subsidies? And you are of course wrong.

I don't think any business should get subsidies.

Put all those billions of dollars back in the wallets of the people and let them decide what they want to use it for.

 

[Billiejeens]

Trump tapping into his supporters enthusiasm for socialism.

You don't know the difference between socialism and Keynesian Economics

Trump is not running a Keynesian Economy. He is a crony capitalist stealing money & bailing out his favorite Zombie companies.

The US economy is 70% consumer based & only 11% manufacturing. So best way to stimulate is to put more money into the hands of consumers during recessions & lower deficits during boom times.

Republican economics caused 10 JOB KILLING RECESSIONS in the last 63 years!!!
Democrats only had recession 1 in 71 years!!!
Every Republicant president in History caused JOB KILLING RECESSIONS!!!!!!

Factually false.

I'm sorry your head exploded when hit with facts!

There has never been a Republican President in History that didn't cause JOB KILLING RECESSIONS!!!!!! Republicans CAUSED 10 of last 11 JOB KILLING RECESSIONS!!!!!!

I DARE YOU TO PROVE THIS WRONG!!!

Reagan
Bush 41
Bush 43

 

[jc456]

Trump tapping into his supporters enthusiasm for socialism.

You don't know the difference between socialism and Keynesian Economics

Trump is not running a Keynesian Economy. He is a crony capitalist stealing money & bailing out his favorite Zombie companies.

The US economy is 70% consumer based & only 11% manufacturing. So best way to stimulate is to put more money into the hands of consumers during recessions & lower deficits during boom times.

Republican economics caused 10 JOB KILLING RECESSIONS in the last 63 years!!!
Democrats only had recession 1 in 71 years!!!
Every Republicant president in History caused JOB KILLING RECESSIONS!!!!!!

Factually false.

I'm sorry your head exploded when hit with facts!

There has never been a Republican President in History that didn't cause JOB KILLING RECESSIONS!!!!!! Republicans CAUSED 10 of last 11 JOB KILLING RECESSIONS!!!!!!

I DARE YOU TO PROVE THIS WRONG!!!

so under every republican president, creating jobs killed recessions. Well hell yeah, way to go GOP!

 

[Billiejeens]

You keep using that word.
I do not think that it means what you think that it means.

From each according to their ability, to each according to their needs.

No-
Government shut down the country
Government is making people hurt by that somewhat whole again.

 

[Billiejeens]

To Democrats, feeding the poor is evil when Trump does it.

They stand for nothing.

They are supposedly for peace and Trump is the most peaceful President....maybe ever.

They supposedly care about the blacks, and Trump did more for THE BLACKS in less than a year than obama did in 8. Yet, supposedly the most racist President ever and a nazi even though Israel named a train station after Trump.

Supposedly Trump took the China disease lightly when I keep posting the compilation of the left wing media attacking Trump for saying the coronavirus was worse than the flu and called him racist for cutting travel from China.

We could imagine what these losers would say if he didn't get bailouts to the farmers.

I think that a simple way to put it is
Democrats are pieces of shit.

 

[Billiejeens]

I'm sure that the upcoming election has no bearing on this...right?

Trump Funnels Record Subsidies to Farmers Ahead of Election Day

For the American farmers President Trump counts on for support, the government money is flowing faster than ever.
Federal payments to farmers are projected to hit a record $46 billion this year as the White House funnels money to Mr. Trump’s rural base in the South and Midwest ahead of Election Day.
The gush of funds has accelerated in recent weeks as the president looks to help his core supporters who have been hit hard by the double whammy of his combative trade practices and the coronavirus pandemic. According to the American Farm Bureau, debt in the farm sector is projected to increase by 4 percent to a record $434 billion this year and farm bankruptcies have continued to rise across the country.
Farmers are not the only constituency benefiting from the president’s largess: He has promised $200 prescription drug cards to millions of seniors, approved $13 billion in aid to Puerto Rico, which could help his prospects in Florida, and he directed his Agriculture Department include letters signed by him in millions of food aid boxes that are being distributed to the poor.

“There are both economic and political motivations for these payments,” said Patrick Westhoff, who directs University of Missouri’s agriculture research center.
Last week, the Office of Special Counsel determined that Mr. Trump’s Agriculture secretary, Sonny Perdue, had improperly used his position to push the president’s re-election by promising more help for farmers. At an August event in North Carolina, Mr. Perdue violated ethics laws when he promoted Mr. Trump’s re-election during remarks about the Farmers to Families Food Box Program, saying: “That’s what’s going to continue to happen — four more years — if America gets out and votes for this man, Donald J. Trump.”

My farmer friends I drink beer with love Our President.

All normal folk love this President.

There is no normal.

Hmm

I think that there is.

All human behavior exists on a continuum therefore the entirety of the continuum is "normal" human behavior. If all behaviors are "normal" there is for all intents and purposes no normal.

That's nice

 

[MisterBeale]

Since when did farm subsidies become a bad thing?

Finally, someone asked the right question.

It's not a genuine question. Oddball is mocking you.

Well, it did open the door and that was all I needed.

But did you even get the point? Your complaints are totally valid. But they are essentially all the things that conservatives and libertarians warn about when these kinds of subsidies are proposed in the first place.

I might agree that the Libertarians have a point but the Conservatives are part of the problem as are the Liberals. Hell, even the Moderates. The problem is, no one of power has EVER seriously looked into the problem and made it public and expected to be reelected the next time around. Or to keep their appointed job for any time afterwards. Everyone talks about the Deep Cabal. Well, here was have a Brown Cabal that is out there for everyone to see. They don't even try and hide it.

This is another case of taking away programs that should go to the State and Locals and using a Federal System to administer it. I am not against the subsidies. I am against one single dime going to those that have exactly nothing to do with farming or producing food like speculators which is where the bulk of the subsidies go. Yes, do the subsidies but turn those funds over to the State or the Locals so that it can be more fairly doled out.

But, don't you see that's the problem? You're not against the subsidies, except when you are. Republicans are the same way. They just want to "subsidize different". The point is, government shouldn't be making this call. As long as they are, it will be a political football. And now we're doing the same stupid thing with healthcare.

. . . and oh my lord, have you seen what Harris and Biden are talking about having government do to get involved in paying costs and covering debt in higher education to get the young to vote for them?

I can't imagine what this is going to do to the cost of education. Yikes.

 

[mudwhistle]

Trump tapping into his supporters enthusiasm for socialism.

You don't know the difference between socialism and Keynesian Economics

Trump is not running a Keynesian Economy. He is a crony capitalist stealing money & bailing out his favorite Zombie companies.

The US economy is 70% consumer based & only 11% manufacturing. So best way to stimulate is to put more money into the hands of consumers during recessions & lower deficits during boom times.

Republican economics caused 10 JOB KILLING RECESSIONS in the last 63 years!!!
Democrats only had recession 1 in 71 years!!!
Every Republicant president in History caused JOB KILLING RECESSIONS!!!!!!

You're full of it.
Democrats control Washington.
Nothing happens there without them being involved in some way.

 

[KissMy]

Trump tapping into his supporters enthusiasm for socialism.

You don't know the difference between socialism and Keynesian Economics

Trump is not running a Keynesian Economy. He is a crony capitalist stealing money & bailing out his favorite Zombie companies.

The US economy is 70% consumer based & only 11% manufacturing. So best way to stimulate is to put more money into the hands of consumers during recessions & lower deficits during boom times.

Republican economics caused 10 JOB KILLING RECESSIONS in the last 63 years!!!
Democrats only had recession 1 in 71 years!!!
Every Republicant president in History caused JOB KILLING RECESSIONS!!!!!!

Factually false.

I'm sorry your head exploded when hit with facts!

There has never been a Republican President in History that didn't cause JOB KILLING RECESSIONS!!!!!! Republicans CAUSED 10 of last 11 JOB KILLING RECESSIONS!!!!!!

I DARE YOU TO PROVE THIS WRONG!!!

Reagan
Bush 41
Bush 43

You Double Dip Repubtard!

Reagan caused a MASSIVE JOB KILLING DOUBLE DIP RECESSION in 1982!!!

Bush 41 caused a MASSIVE JOB KILLING DOUBLE DIP RECESSION in 1990!!!

Bush 43 caused 2 MASSIVE JOB KILLING RECESSION in 2001 & DEPRESSION in 2008!!!

Clinton's economy added MORE JOBS than Republican Presidents Ford, Reagan, Bush1, Bush2 & Trump COMBINED!!!!! Even Obama's economy added MORE JOBS than Republican Presidents!!!

 

[Billiejeens]

Trump tapping into his supporters enthusiasm for socialism.

You don't know the difference between socialism and Keynesian Economics

Trump is not running a Keynesian Economy. He is a crony capitalist stealing money & bailing out his favorite Zombie companies.

The US economy is 70% consumer based & only 11% manufacturing. So best way to stimulate is to put more money into the hands of consumers during recessions & lower deficits during boom times.

Republican economics caused 10 JOB KILLING RECESSIONS in the last 63 years!!!
Democrats only had recession 1 in 71 years!!!
Every Republicant president in History caused JOB KILLING RECESSIONS!!!!!!

Factually false.

I'm sorry your head exploded when hit with facts!

There has never been a Republican President in History that didn't cause JOB KILLING RECESSIONS!!!!!! Republicans CAUSED 10 of last 11 JOB KILLING RECESSIONS!!!!!!

I DARE YOU TO PROVE THIS WRONG!!!

Reagan
Bush 41
Bush 43

You Double Dip Repubtard!

Reagan caused a MASSIVE JOB KILLING DOUBLE DIP RECESSION in 1982!!!

Bush 41 caused a MASSIVE JOB KILLING DOUBLE DIP RECESSION in 1990!!!

Bush 43 caused 2 MASSIVE JOB KILLING RECESSION in 2001 & DEPRESSION in 2008!!!

Clinton economy added MORE JOBS than Republican Presidents Ford, Reagan, Bush1, Bush2 & Trump COMBINED!!!!!

Actually none of that is true.
You are simply a BubbleCultist

 

[mudwhistle]

Trump tapping into his supporters enthusiasm for socialism.

You don't know the difference between socialism and Keynesian Economics

Trump is not running a Keynesian Economy. He is a crony capitalist stealing money & bailing out his favorite Zombie companies.

The US economy is 70% consumer based & only 11% manufacturing. So best way to stimulate is to put more money into the hands of consumers during recessions & lower deficits during boom times.

Republican economics caused 10 JOB KILLING RECESSIONS in the last 63 years!!!
Democrats only had recession 1 in 71 years!!!
Every Republicant president in History caused JOB KILLING RECESSIONS!!!!!!

Factually false.

I'm sorry your head exploded when hit with facts!

There has never been a Republican President in History that didn't cause JOB KILLING RECESSIONS!!!!!! Republicans CAUSED 10 of last 11 JOB KILLING RECESSIONS!!!!!!

I DARE YOU TO PROVE THIS WRONG!!!

Reagan
Bush 41
Bush 43

You Double Dip Repubtard!

Reagan caused a MASSIVE JOB KILLING DOUBLE DIP RECESSION in 1982!!!

Bush 41 caused a MASSIVE JOB KILLING DOUBLE DIP RECESSION in 1990!!!

Bush 43 caused 2 MASSIVE JOB KILLING RECESSION in 2001 & DEPRESSION in 2008!!!

Clinton's economy added MORE JOBS than Republican Presidents Ford, Reagan, Bush1, Bush2 & Trump COMBINED!!!!! Even Obama's economy added MORE JOBS than Republican Presidents!!!

I personally lost my government job because Reagan eliminated it......but government jobs are a net negative to the economy because they use taxes to pay their salaries. Private sector jobs are what helps the economy.

 

[KissMy]

Trump tapping into his supporters enthusiasm for socialism.

You don't know the difference between socialism and Keynesian Economics

Trump is not running a Keynesian Economy. He is a crony capitalist stealing money & bailing out his favorite Zombie companies.

The US economy is 70% consumer based & only 11% manufacturing. So best way to stimulate is to put more money into the hands of consumers during recessions & lower deficits during boom times.

Republican economics caused 10 JOB KILLING RECESSIONS in the last 63 years!!!
Democrats only had recession 1 in 71 years!!!
Every Republicant president in History caused JOB KILLING RECESSIONS!!!!!!

Factually false.

I'm sorry your head exploded when hit with facts!

There has never been a Republican President in History that didn't cause JOB KILLING RECESSIONS!!!!!! Republicans CAUSED 10 of last 11 JOB KILLING RECESSIONS!!!!!!

I DARE YOU TO PROVE THIS WRONG!!!

Reagan
Bush 41
Bush 43

You Double Dip Repubtard!

Reagan caused a MASSIVE JOB KILLING DOUBLE DIP RECESSION in 1982!!!

Bush 41 caused a MASSIVE JOB KILLING DOUBLE DIP RECESSION in 1990!!!

Bush 43 caused 2 MASSIVE JOB KILLING RECESSION in 2001 & DEPRESSION in 2008!!!

Clinton's economy added MORE JOBS than Republican Presidents Ford, Reagan, Bush1, Bush2 & Trump COMBINED!!!!! Even Obama's economy added MORE JOBS than Republican Presidents!!!

I personally lost my government job because Reagan eliminated it......but government jobs are a net negative to the economy because they use taxes to pay their salaries. Private sector jobs are what helps the economy.

You Lie! You still work for Big Government.

Obama is the only president in our lifetime to Reduce Government Jobs!!!

 

[gipper]

Trump isn’t the first potus to buy votes using taxpayer dollars and he won’t be the last.

The solution is terminating the federal government and everyone in it, then start anew.

No
That's not the solution for sane people.

That’s the thing. You and those like you want to continue this insane government thinking it will somehow become sane. Is this not the definition of insanity?

No

Oh yes

 

[Billiejeens]

Trump isn’t the first potus to buy votes using taxpayer dollars and he won’t be the last.

The solution is terminating the federal government and everyone in it, then start anew.

No
That's not the solution for sane people.

That’s the thing. You and those like you want to continue this insane government thinking it will somehow become sane. Is this not the definition of insanity?

No

Oh yes

Do you address all of the issues in your life by running away from them?

 

[gipper]

Trump isn’t the first potus to buy votes using taxpayer dollars and he won’t be the last.

The solution is terminating the federal government and everyone in it, then start anew.

No
That's not the solution for sane people.

That’s the thing. You and those like you want to continue this insane government thinking it will somehow become sane. Is this not the definition of insanity?

No

Oh yes

Do you address all of the issues in your life by running away from them?

No, but I recognize insanity when I see it.

 

[Blues Man]

I'm sure that the upcoming election has no bearing on this...right?

Trump Funnels Record Subsidies to Farmers Ahead of Election Day

For the American farmers President Trump counts on for support, the government money is flowing faster than ever.
Federal payments to farmers are projected to hit a record $46 billion this year as the White House funnels money to Mr. Trump’s rural base in the South and Midwest ahead of Election Day.
The gush of funds has accelerated in recent weeks as the president looks to help his core supporters who have been hit hard by the double whammy of his combative trade practices and the coronavirus pandemic. According to the American Farm Bureau, debt in the farm sector is projected to increase by 4 percent to a record $434 billion this year and farm bankruptcies have continued to rise across the country.
Farmers are not the only constituency benefiting from the president’s largess: He has promised $200 prescription drug cards to millions of seniors, approved $13 billion in aid to Puerto Rico, which could help his prospects in Florida, and he directed his Agriculture Department include letters signed by him in millions of food aid boxes that are being distributed to the poor.

“There are both economic and political motivations for these payments,” said Patrick Westhoff, who directs University of Missouri’s agriculture research center.
Last week, the Office of Special Counsel determined that Mr. Trump’s Agriculture secretary, Sonny Perdue, had improperly used his position to push the president’s re-election by promising more help for farmers. At an August event in North Carolina, Mr. Perdue violated ethics laws when he promoted Mr. Trump’s re-election during remarks about the Farmers to Families Food Box Program, saying: “That’s what’s going to continue to happen — four more years — if America gets out and votes for this man, Donald J. Trump.”

My farmer friends I drink beer with love Our President.

All normal folk love this President.

There is no normal.

Hmm

I think that there is.

All human behavior exists on a continuum therefore the entirety of the continuum is "normal" human behavior. If all behaviors are "normal" there is for all intents and purposes no normal.

That's nice

That's truth

 

[Billiejeens]

I'm sure that the upcoming election has no bearing on this...right?

Trump Funnels Record Subsidies to Farmers Ahead of Election Day

For the American farmers President Trump counts on for support, the government money is flowing faster than ever.
Federal payments to farmers are projected to hit a record $46 billion this year as the White House funnels money to Mr. Trump’s rural base in the South and Midwest ahead of Election Day.
The gush of funds has accelerated in recent weeks as the president looks to help his core supporters who have been hit hard by the double whammy of his combative trade practices and the coronavirus pandemic. According to the American Farm Bureau, debt in the farm sector is projected to increase by 4 percent to a record $434 billion this year and farm bankruptcies have continued to rise across the country.
Farmers are not the only constituency benefiting from the president’s largess: He has promised $200 prescription drug cards to millions of seniors, approved $13 billion in aid to Puerto Rico, which could help his prospects in Florida, and he directed his Agriculture Department include letters signed by him in millions of food aid boxes that are being distributed to the poor.

“There are both economic and political motivations for these payments,” said Patrick Westhoff, who directs University of Missouri’s agriculture research center.
Last week, the Office of Special Counsel determined that Mr. Trump’s Agriculture secretary, Sonny Perdue, had improperly used his position to push the president’s re-election by promising more help for farmers. At an August event in North Carolina, Mr. Perdue violated ethics laws when he promoted Mr. Trump’s re-election during remarks about the Farmers to Families Food Box Program, saying: “That’s what’s going to continue to happen — four more years — if America gets out and votes for this man, Donald J. Trump.”

My farmer friends I drink beer with love Our President.

All normal folk love this President.

There is no normal.

Hmm

I think that there is.

All human behavior exists on a continuum therefore the entirety of the continuum is "normal" human behavior. If all behaviors are "normal" there is for all intents and purposes no normal.

That's nice

That's truth

I'm sure that you believe that is some deep thinking right there.
And That's Okay.

 

[Billiejeens]

Trump isn’t the first potus to buy votes using taxpayer dollars and he won’t be the last.

The solution is terminating the federal government and everyone in it, then start anew.

No
That's not the solution for sane people.

That’s the thing. You and those like you want to continue this insane government thinking it will somehow become sane. Is this not the definition of insanity?

No

Oh yes

Do you address all of the issues in your life by running away from them?

No, but I recognize insanity when I see it.

Do You?

 

[Blues Man]

I'm sure that the upcoming election has no bearing on this...right?

Trump Funnels Record Subsidies to Farmers Ahead of Election Day

For the American farmers President Trump counts on for support, the government money is flowing faster than ever.
Federal payments to farmers are projected to hit a record $46 billion this year as the White House funnels money to Mr. Trump’s rural base in the South and Midwest ahead of Election Day.
The gush of funds has accelerated in recent weeks as the president looks to help his core supporters who have been hit hard by the double whammy of his combative trade practices and the coronavirus pandemic. According to the American Farm Bureau, debt in the farm sector is projected to increase by 4 percent to a record $434 billion this year and farm bankruptcies have continued to rise across the country.
Farmers are not the only constituency benefiting from the president’s largess: He has promised $200 prescription drug cards to millions of seniors, approved $13 billion in aid to Puerto Rico, which could help his prospects in Florida, and he directed his Agriculture Department include letters signed by him in millions of food aid boxes that are being distributed to the poor.

“There are both economic and political motivations for these payments,” said Patrick Westhoff, who directs University of Missouri’s agriculture research center.
Last week, the Office of Special Counsel determined that Mr. Trump’s Agriculture secretary, Sonny Perdue, had improperly used his position to push the president’s re-election by promising more help for farmers. At an August event in North Carolina, Mr. Perdue violated ethics laws when he promoted Mr. Trump’s re-election during remarks about the Farmers to Families Food Box Program, saying: “That’s what’s going to continue to happen — four more years — if America gets out and votes for this man, Donald J. Trump.”

My farmer friends I drink beer with love Our President.

All normal folk love this President.

There is no normal.

Hmm

I think that there is.

All human behavior exists on a continuum therefore the entirety of the continuum is "normal" human behavior. If all behaviors are "normal" there is for all intents and purposes no normal.

That's nice

That's truth

I'm sure that you believe that is some deep thinking right there.
And That's Okay.

no it's actually psych 101.

Any college freshman can understand it.