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Trump claims presidents can declassify documents ‘even by thinking about it

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Top Secret Documents are tracked
Each copy is recorded as to who has it and they must sign for it

I think that is why they got their warrant
so, then he signed out the documents in question, didn't steal them, and the FBI has known all this time what he had and took with him, left in June saying "lock them up better" - then in a fit of knowledge they forgot they had, remembered that trump wasn't supposed to have these documents he checked out and they saw and went and raided his house.

GOD DAMN you paint yourself into some very stupid corners.
 

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so, then he signed out the documents in question, didn't steal them, and the FBI has known all this time what he had and took with him, left in June saying "lock them up better" - then in a fit of knowledge they forgot they had, remembered that trump wasn't supposed to have these documents he checked out and they saw and went and raided his house.

GOD DAMN you paint yourself into some very stupid corners.
You can't make this brand of psycho up.
 

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Tracked by who?
I know you can't answer that question.
It seems no one can answer that question because everyone, including you, wants to put the blame solely on Trump.
It's easy breezie ... lemon squeezie.Just tune into MSNBC at
10 pm est and watch who Little Lawrence O'Donnell { who
confirmed 10 years ago he's a SOCIALIST } has on.
You'll see the real rats in our Government.Not just guys like
Adam Schiff or Eric Swalwell but the lead prosecutor in Mueller's
Special Counsel or Andrew Weissman.
 

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It's easy breezie ... lemon squeezie.Just tune into MSNBC at
10 pm est and watch who Little Lawrence O'Donnell { who
confirmed 10 years ago he's a SOCIALIST } has on.
You'll see the real rats in our Government.Not just guys like
Adam Schiff or Eric Swalwell but the lead prosecutor in Mueller's
Special Counsel or Andrew Weissman.
STOP IT!
You're hurting my stomach muscles! :auiqs.jpg:
 

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Let me ask you this, would you be ok with Trump being arrested for holding classified documents if Biden were to say on national TV, I thought all those documents Trump had were classified, thus making them so.
No, because When Trump was president and declassified them,it was perfectly legal to declassify them.

I know TDS Democrats like you hate this, but in the U.S. of A., we don't prosecute people for things that were only illegal after we made them illegal, but not when they did them.
 

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you have the best drunk post!

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" I wasn't like Oliver Reed.He was a competitor drinker.He would
say, ' I can drink you under the fucking table.' And I'd say : I'm sure
you could,Oliver.But where's the fun in that . "
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I'm watching parts of - Midnight Express - { 1978 }
Fantastic movie.
 

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“There doesn’t have to be a process, as I understand it,” Trump told Fox News host Sean Hannity. “If you’re the president of the United States, you can declassify just by saying, ‘It’s declassified.’ Even by thinking about it.

So, do you all agree with this? Is just the mere thought of something being declassified enough to make it so?
All I have to say is when are they going to lock this idiot up he belongs in a mental institution. One for the criminally insane.
 

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No other president thought they could declassify documents via telepathy
He never claimed telepathy, that's your lie. Given certain circumstances, a president might find it most beneficial to simply divulge 'classified' information to the public, in the greater interests of the nation. Ignoring all the phony protocols you folks are inventing.
 

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All I have to say is when are they going to lock this idiot up he belongs in a mental institution. One for the criminally insane.
Okey Dokey ... I'm buyin.You said it and I'm willing to take you at yer
written word.That .. . :
" All I have to say is "
 

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Special Master Calls Out Lawyers On Traitor's Claim That F.B.I. "Planted" Shit-A-Lago Records.


U.S. District Judge Raymond Dearie, who is acting as a special master in the Mar-a-Lago documents case, on Thursday demanded that Donald Trump’s lawyers substantiate another one of the former president’s claims: that the FBI “planted” records.

Dearie ordered Trump’s legal team to submit by Sept. 30 a list of of specific items in the Justice Department’s 11-page inventory of documents taken from the Mar-a-Lago resort — including top secret files — that “plaintiff asserts were not seized from the premises.” They must also submit a list of any items seized that were not on the inventory, the order states.

This submission shall be Plaintiff’s final opportunity to raise any factual dispute as to the completeness and accuracy of the Detailed Property Inventory,” Dearie said.

In simpler terms, the Traitor Impaired.....Put Up or Shut The Fuck Up.
 
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You know I worked in the SIGINT community for 25 years right? You are talking out of your ass.

And you know I was an actual Secondary Control Point custodian while in the Marine Corps. I was the one that kept the fucking inventory of what was in the vault. So, kiss my ass.
 
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No, because When Trump was president and declassified them,it was perfectly legal to declassify them.

But on day one of his presidency Biden could have thought all those things were classified and they would be again. Now Trump would be guilty of having classified documents in his possession, so you should be good with Biden having the same power that Trump did
 

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It’s a misleading question.

Just picture this. The President (any President) is seeking advice from some expert in a particular field, like troubles with a certain foreign power in a certain region and it’s complicated by other weighty considerations like energy, the prospect of military action and the feelings of other neighboring nations.

To get the advice he needs, the expert needs to be “in the know” about some presently classified material. So, without much ado, the President hands the expert (who has never received clearance for this level of classification) a top secret intel report.

Has the President thereby divulged a state secret? Or, as I maintain, has he effectively (and without a fucking word being uttered) declassified that too secret document for the expert?

I know I'm late to the thread, but catching up over morning coffee, so my apologies in advance.

That isn't an example of the information being declassified, that is an example of the President giving the individual a Temporary Clearance. The information would still be classified. The individual in your case would still be subject to legal restrictions on not disseminating that information outside of his advice to the President.

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so, then he signed out the documents in question, didn't steal them, and the FBI has known all this time what he had and took with him, left in June saying "lock them up better" - then in a fit of knowledge they forgot they had, remembered that trump wasn't supposed to have these documents he checked out and they saw and went and raided his house.

GOD DAMN you paint yourself into some very stupid corners.
He was asked to return them and refused to do so.
That is stealing

The FBI did not tell Trump to lock up TOP SECRET documents better. Trumps security of Classified Information was no where close to what is required
 

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He never claimed telepathy, that's your lie. Given certain circumstances, a president might find it most beneficial to simply divulge 'classified' information to the public, in the greater interests of the nation. Ignoring all the phony protocols you folks are inventing.
But Trump never did that and the information remained classified
 

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And you know I was an actual Secondary Control Point custodian while in the Marine Corps. I was the one that kept the fucking inventory of what was in the vault. So, kiss my ass.
You didnt have an inventory of every classified document in your facility. That's not real and I dont give a shit how long you played SCIF guard as a LCpl, it doesnt make you an expert on the matter. What you had an inventory of was classified material (key mat, gear, etc) but not every document. Did someone come tell you every time they printed something and you added it to your inventory? Tell me what's the serialization system the US government uses for classified documents? What's the system called? It must have one if it's keeping track of every one of them. The SIGINT system alone generates probably a million classified reports every day.

I know that all you dip shits want there to be some list of all the classified and declassified documents so that they DOJ can just check the docs that were found in Mar A Lago against it and if they are on the classified list Trump is guilty and you can all go touch each other thinking about how long he'll be in jail but that doesnt make those lists real.
 

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