Trump Announces Phony New Health Care ‘Plan’

[Brain357]

Everybody supports pre existing conditions coverage.

Really?!? This is the type stuff that drives healthcare costs through the roof. Imagine being able to pick up car insurance After you have had an accident. Not a good idea.

It was going through the roof long before.

 

[DukeU]

It was going through the roof long before.

I thought we were trying to slow/lower the costs. No?

 

[dblack]

Everybody supports pre existing conditions coverage.

Really?!? This is the type stuff that drives healthcare costs through the roof. Imagine being able to pick up car insurance After you have had an accident. Not a good idea.

It was going through the roof long before.

So might as well turn it up to eleven, eh?

 

[Brain357]

Everybody supports pre existing conditions coverage.

Really?!? This is the type stuff that drives healthcare costs through the roof. Imagine being able to pick up car insurance After you have had an accident. Not a good idea.

It was going through the roof long before.

So might as well turn it up to eleven, eh?

Been on 11 for many years.

 

[dblack]

Everybody supports pre existing conditions coverage.

Really?!? This is the type stuff that drives healthcare costs through the roof. Imagine being able to pick up car insurance After you have had an accident. Not a good idea.

It was going through the roof long before.

So might as well turn it up to eleven, eh?

Been on 11 for many years.

Nihilist much? Do you want to make it better, or worse?

 

[Brain357]

Everybody supports pre existing conditions coverage.

Really?!? This is the type stuff that drives healthcare costs through the roof. Imagine being able to pick up car insurance After you have had an accident. Not a good idea.

It was going through the roof long before.

So might as well turn it up to eleven, eh?

Been on 11 for many years.

Nihilist much? Do you want to make it better, or worse?

I don’t see trumps executive orders making it better.

 

[DukeU]

I don’t see trumps executive orders making it better.

Can't make it any worse than what we have now. ACA has created a $7000 deductible for me. It's a catastrophe.

 

[dblack]

Everybody supports pre existing conditions coverage.

Really?!? This is the type stuff that drives healthcare costs through the roof. Imagine being able to pick up car insurance After you have had an accident. Not a good idea.

It was going through the roof long before.

So might as well turn it up to eleven, eh?

Been on 11 for many years.

Nihilist much? Do you want to make it better, or worse?

I don’t see trumps executive orders making it better.

We were talking about the policy of forcing coverage of pre-existing conditions. You were defending it. Remember?

Or, well - Oh, I see. You've been cornered and now you want to change the subject. Ok, fair enough.

 

[Brain357]

Everybody supports pre existing conditions coverage.

Really?!? This is the type stuff that drives healthcare costs through the roof. Imagine being able to pick up car insurance After you have had an accident. Not a good idea.

It was going through the roof long before.

So might as well turn it up to eleven, eh?

Been on 11 for many years.

Nihilist much? Do you want to make it better, or worse?

I don’t see trumps executive orders making it better.

We were talking about the policy of forcing coverage of pre-existing conditions. You were defending it. Remember?

Or, well - Oh, I see. You've been cornered and now you want to change the subject. Ok, fair enough.

You seem confused. What did I say exactly?

 

[Brain357]

I don’t see trumps executive orders making it better.

Can't make it any worse than what we have now. ACA has created a $7000 deductible for me. It's a catastrophe.

Oh but it can.

 

[dblack]

Everybody supports pre existing conditions coverage.

Really?!? This is the type stuff that drives healthcare costs through the roof. Imagine being able to pick up car insurance After you have had an accident. Not a good idea.

It was going through the roof long before.

So might as well turn it up to eleven, eh?

Been on 11 for many years.

Nihilist much? Do you want to make it better, or worse?

I don’t see trumps executive orders making it better.

We were talking about the policy of forcing coverage of pre-existing conditions. You were defending it. Remember?

Or, well - Oh, I see. You've been cornered and now you want to change the subject. Ok, fair enough.

You seem confused. What did I say exactly?

Walk it back. Good call.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Slogans and toothless executive orders don’t pay anyone’s doctor bills.

President Donald Trump really, really wants to fool voters into thinking he has a plan to make the health care system great again. But he really, really doesn’t.

In Charlotte, North Carolina, on Thursday, Trump signed executive orders he claims address two of the biggest concerns Americans have about the health care system: coverage for people with preexisting conditions and surprise medical bills.

The orders don’t do anything about anything, though. It’s just more vaporware from the Trump administration. Slogans, lies and exaggerations aren’t policies. Trump pitched his phantom plan by saying it rests on three pillars: “more choice,” “lower costs,” and “better care,” and that it would “put patients first.”

Those focus-group-tested slogans sound great! Except they’re hogwash.

Executive orders like these are little more than campaign press releases printed on fancier stationery. Since Trump doesn’t have the interest or patience to actually work with Congress to make laws, he tosses off toothless executive orders and farms out his Obamacare repeal efforts to a court system he’s packed with his own judges.

There’s no evidence that Trump cares about health care at all beyond his intense desire to undo anything President Barack Obama did in office. Has there been anything about Trump’s response to the novel coronavirus pandemic to suggest that the health and well-being of Americans is a priority for him? Two hundred thousand dead say otherwise.

Much more...

Trump Announces Phony New Health Care 'Plan'

Slogans and toothless executive orders don't pay anyone's doctor bills.

www.huffpost.com

Trump is once again trying to "gaslight" Americans before the election with his phony new health care plan - at the same time he is trying to kill Obamacare in the Supreme Court.

Do the EO's cover pre-existing conditions...again?

Trump thinks he's a dictator; presidents can't legislate with executive orders.

 

[Brain357]

Everybody supports pre existing conditions coverage.

Really?!? This is the type stuff that drives healthcare costs through the roof. Imagine being able to pick up car insurance After you have had an accident. Not a good idea.

It was going through the roof long before.

So might as well turn it up to eleven, eh?

Been on 11 for many years.

Nihilist much? Do you want to make it better, or worse?

I don’t see trumps executive orders making it better.

We were talking about the policy of forcing coverage of pre-existing conditions. You were defending it. Remember?

Or, well - Oh, I see. You've been cornered and now you want to change the subject. Ok, fair enough.

You seem confused. What did I say exactly?

Walk it back. Good call.

Again you seem confused. What comment am I walking back? This is a short thread.

 

[Brain357]

Slogans and toothless executive orders don’t pay anyone’s doctor bills.

President Donald Trump really, really wants to fool voters into thinking he has a plan to make the health care system great again. But he really, really doesn’t.

In Charlotte, North Carolina, on Thursday, Trump signed executive orders he claims address two of the biggest concerns Americans have about the health care system: coverage for people with preexisting conditions and surprise medical bills.

The orders don’t do anything about anything, though. It’s just more vaporware from the Trump administration. Slogans, lies and exaggerations aren’t policies. Trump pitched his phantom plan by saying it rests on three pillars: “more choice,” “lower costs,” and “better care,” and that it would “put patients first.”

Those focus-group-tested slogans sound great! Except they’re hogwash.

Executive orders like these are little more than campaign press releases printed on fancier stationery. Since Trump doesn’t have the interest or patience to actually work with Congress to make laws, he tosses off toothless executive orders and farms out his Obamacare repeal efforts to a court system he’s packed with his own judges.

There’s no evidence that Trump cares about health care at all beyond his intense desire to undo anything President Barack Obama did in office. Has there been anything about Trump’s response to the novel coronavirus pandemic to suggest that the health and well-being of Americans is a priority for him? Two hundred thousand dead say otherwise.

Much more...

Trump Announces Phony New Health Care 'Plan'

Slogans and toothless executive orders don't pay anyone's doctor bills.

www.huffpost.com

Trump is once again trying to "gaslight" Americans before the election with his phony new health care plan - at the same time he is trying to kill Obamacare in the Supreme Court.

Do the EO's cover pre-existing conditions...again?

Trump thinks he's a dictator; presidents can't legislate with executive orders.

Republicans used to say that.

 

[DukeU]

Oh but it can

If we keep mandating things like pre-existing conditions. I agree.

 

[DukeU]

Again you seem confused. What comment am I walking back? This is a short thread.

Post #8.

 

[Brain357]

Again you seem confused. What comment am I walking back? This is a short thread.

Post #8.

That’s not me...

 

[dblack]

Everybody supports pre existing conditions coverage.

Really?!? This is the type stuff that drives healthcare costs through the roof. Imagine being able to pick up car insurance After you have had an accident. Not a good idea.

It was going through the roof long before.

So might as well turn it up to eleven, eh?

Been on 11 for many years.

Nihilist much? Do you want to make it better, or worse?

I don’t see trumps executive orders making it better.

We were talking about the policy of forcing coverage of pre-existing conditions. You were defending it. Remember?

Or, well - Oh, I see. You've been cornered and now you want to change the subject. Ok, fair enough.

You seem confused. What did I say exactly?

Walk it back. Good call.

Again you seem confused. What comment am I walking back? This is a short thread.

Alright. Fine. Perhaps I misread you. Let's start over. Do you support mandating coverage of pre-existing conditions?

 

[Brain357]

Everybody supports pre existing conditions coverage.

Really?!? This is the type stuff that drives healthcare costs through the roof. Imagine being able to pick up car insurance After you have had an accident. Not a good idea.

It was going through the roof long before.

So might as well turn it up to eleven, eh?

Been on 11 for many years.

Nihilist much? Do you want to make it better, or worse?

I don’t see trumps executive orders making it better.

We were talking about the policy of forcing coverage of pre-existing conditions. You were defending it. Remember?

Or, well - Oh, I see. You've been cornered and now you want to change the subject. Ok, fair enough.

You seem confused. What did I say exactly?

Walk it back. Good call.

Again you seem confused. What comment am I walking back? This is a short thread.

Alright. Fine. Perhaps I misread you. Let's start over. Do you support mandating coverage of pre-existing conditions?

I don’t support a healthcare system based on for profit insurance. It clearly doesn’t work.

 

[dblack]

Everybody supports pre existing conditions coverage.

Really?!? This is the type stuff that drives healthcare costs through the roof. Imagine being able to pick up car insurance After you have had an accident. Not a good idea.

It was going through the roof long before.

So might as well turn it up to eleven, eh?

Been on 11 for many years.

Nihilist much? Do you want to make it better, or worse?

I don’t see trumps executive orders making it better.

We were talking about the policy of forcing coverage of pre-existing conditions. You were defending it. Remember?

Or, well - Oh, I see. You've been cornered and now you want to change the subject. Ok, fair enough.

You seem confused. What did I say exactly?

Walk it back. Good call.

Again you seem confused. What comment am I walking back? This is a short thread.

Alright. Fine. Perhaps I misread you. Let's start over. Do you support mandating coverage of pre-existing conditions?

I don’t support a healthcare system based on for profit insurance. It clearly doesn’t work.

That doesn't answer the question, does it?