Truck Drivers Are Being Abused In America!

JimofPennsylvan

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The "supply chain problem" is a King Kong size economic problem for America it is helping fuel intolerable inflation in the country. A small part of the "supply chain problem" is a shortage of "truck" drivers, the American Trucking Associations puts the number at eighty-thousand drivers. Of course, there is many reasons for this shortage what however is clearly occurring in this industry is that there is high turnover amongst truck drivers they jump from one employer to another and frequently jump out of the industry, one glaring reason for this is that truckers frequently have to wait long periods of time to drop off their cargo or to pick-up their cargo and the
real "bow one over" hardship is that in most instances the truckers don't get paid for this wait period, not one penny!

This grave injustice needs to stop yesterday; these truck drivers aren't second class human beings they are human beings and thereby have the right to be treated fairly in the workplace and this situation is patently unfair. America is a country that enshrines fundamental rights so how can our national elected leaders allow this abuse to continue! Some experts believe that if the country stopped this terrible work environment for truckers, the turnover problem of truckers in the industry would stop and the industry would have the employment level needed to eliminate the "shortage of truck driver" supply bottleneck problem in America!

Washington meaning Congress and the President need to pass legislation to improve this problem. There is two ways they could improve this problem. First, they could consider this from a minimum wage perspective and deem that this wait period for truckers is time they are working for an employer and therefore are entitled to a minimum wage for this period of time. This would require independent truckers to be considered employees for this wait time issue; not a big deal the logic exists for this classification. The employer in this situation would be entities like the shipyard, the warehouse owner or lessee who is controlling the warehouse and thus is responsible for the delay. So to try as much as possible to eliminate this administrative burden, shipyards and warehouses would have a one hour window for which this regulation, paying for wait time, would not kick in. So as to stop the gaming of the system where within this one hour the warehouse gives the trucker one box or removes one box from the trucker's truck then claims the regulation does not apply but situation is the trucker still has to wait for the balance of the freight to be loaded or unloaded, Congress should put in the regulation a fair time period for such loading and unloading or let the Department of Transportation determine this and any time in excess of this set time period for a specific trucker by law shall be deemed wait time and the compensation requirement should then apply.

The other way Congress could see that Truckers were treated fairly for wait time, is legally consider this time as time worked by the Trucker for which he or she should be compensated. By this I mean for example a trucker has a contract to deliver cargo from place A to place B for a set number of dollars. A certain amount of this revenue is going to pay fuel expenses and certain amount is going to pay for tolls a certain amount is going to pay for wear and tear on the truck and the balance is for wages for the trucker, one knows pretty much how long it will take to drive a truck from point A to point B so the truckers hourly pay rate can be determined. So the enabling legislation could require the shipyard pay the trucker the contract wage rate for the time period waiting. Congress could just require the Department of Transportation to determine an industry average hourly pay rate for truckers, determined by monitoring the ongoing payment in the industry, and just require the shipyards pay this rate for the wait period incurred by the truckers. For truckers that work for a trucking business or the like, the law could require the shipyard to pay the trucking business and also the trucking business pay the individual truck driver for this wait period.
 
Too much overtime. Too much time and a half, double time, triple time and other pay scales.

Too much work.
 
Great post, just another way the American worker is getting screwed while our "leadership" focuses on massive spending bills and taking care of illegal immigrants and refugees.
 
truckers frequently have to wait long periods of time to drop off their cargo or to pick-up their cargo and the
real "bow one over" hardship is that in most instances the truckers don't get paid for this wait period, not one penny!
It's that required bed rest time with a local hooker in a log book after so many hours behind the wheel without exceeding the speed limit anywhere.

I really don't like the truckers girlfriends or their bitchy mood after the said truckers take off on a farewell journey.
 
The "supply chain problem" is a King Kong size economic problem for America it is helping fuel intolerable inflation in the country. A small part of the "supply chain problem" is a shortage of "truck" drivers, the American Trucking Associations puts the number at eighty-thousand drivers. Of course, there is many reasons for this shortage what however is clearly occurring in this industry is that there is high turnover amongst truck drivers they jump from one employer to another and frequently jump out of the industry, one glaring reason for this is that truckers frequently have to wait long periods of time to drop off their cargo or to pick-up their cargo and the
real "bow one over" hardship is that in most instances the truckers don't get paid for this wait period, not one penny!

This grave injustice needs to stop yesterday; these truck drivers aren't second class human beings they are human beings and thereby have the right to be treated fairly in the workplace and this situation is patently unfair. America is a country that enshrines fundamental rights so how can our national elected leaders allow this abuse to continue! Some experts believe that if the country stopped this terrible work environment for truckers, the turnover problem of truckers in the industry would stop and the industry would have the employment level needed to eliminate the "shortage of truck driver" supply bottleneck problem in America!

Washington meaning Congress and the President need to pass legislation to improve this problem. There is two ways they could improve this problem. First, they could consider this from a minimum wage perspective and deem that this wait period for truckers is time they are working for an employer and therefore are entitled to a minimum wage for this period of time. This would require independent truckers to be considered employees for this wait time issue; not a big deal the logic exists for this classification. The employer in this situation would be entities like the shipyard, the warehouse owner or lessee who is controlling the warehouse and thus is responsible for the delay. So to try as much as possible to eliminate this administrative burden, shipyards and warehouses would have a one hour window for which this regulation, paying for wait time, would not kick in. So as to stop the gaming of the system where within this one hour the warehouse gives the trucker one box or removes one box from the trucker's truck then claims the regulation does not apply but situation is the trucker still has to wait for the balance of the freight to be loaded or unloaded, Congress should put in the regulation a fair time period for such loading and unloading or let the Department of Transportation determine this and any time in excess of this set time period for a specific trucker by law shall be deemed wait time and the compensation requirement should then apply.

The other way Congress could see that Truckers were treated fairly for wait time, is legally consider this time as time worked by the Trucker for which he or she should be compensated. By this I mean for example a trucker has a contract to deliver cargo from place A to place B for a set number of dollars. A certain amount of this revenue is going to pay fuel expenses and certain amount is going to pay for tolls a certain amount is going to pay for wear and tear on the truck and the balance is for wages for the trucker, one knows pretty much how long it will take to drive a truck from point A to point B so the truckers hourly pay rate can be determined. So the enabling legislation could require the shipyard pay the trucker the contract wage rate for the time period waiting. Congress could just require the Department of Transportation to determine an industry average hourly pay rate for truckers, determined by monitoring the ongoing payment in the industry, and just require the shipyards pay this rate for the wait period incurred by the truckers. For truckers that work for a trucking business or the like, the law could require the shipyard to pay the trucking business and also the trucking business pay the individual truck driver for this wait period.

Na. The real problem is that upwards of 500,000 people were killed outright by the vaccines, and another 2,000,000 have suffered severe debilitating injuries. Unlike the virus it was supposed to protect against, which killed mostly retired people, the vaccine adversely affects all age groups relatively evenly.

These worker shortages happening across all occupations since the start of the rollout are a direct result of the adverse reactions and deaths: invariably, the people that got the vaccine were the working people who could not afford any down time from their jobs if they refused.
 
The "supply chain problem" is a King Kong size economic problem for America it is helping fuel intolerable inflation in the country. A small part of the "supply chain problem" is a shortage of "truck" drivers, the American Trucking Associations puts the number at eighty-thousand drivers. Of course, there is many reasons for this shortage what however is clearly occurring in this industry is that there is high turnover amongst truck drivers they jump from one employer to another and frequently jump out of the industry, one glaring reason for this is that truckers frequently have to wait long periods of time to drop off their cargo or to pick-up their cargo and the
real "bow one over" hardship is that in most instances the truckers don't get paid for this wait period, not one penny!

This grave injustice needs to stop yesterday; these truck drivers aren't second class human beings they are human beings and thereby have the right to be treated fairly in the workplace and this situation is patently unfair. America is a country that enshrines fundamental rights so how can our national elected leaders allow this abuse to continue! Some experts believe that if the country stopped this terrible work environment for truckers, the turnover problem of truckers in the industry would stop and the industry would have the employment level needed to eliminate the "shortage of truck driver" supply bottleneck problem in America!

Washington meaning Congress and the President need to pass legislation to improve this problem. There is two ways they could improve this problem. First, they could consider this from a minimum wage perspective and deem that this wait period for truckers is time they are working for an employer and therefore are entitled to a minimum wage for this period of time. This would require independent truckers to be considered employees for this wait time issue; not a big deal the logic exists for this classification. The employer in this situation would be entities like the shipyard, the warehouse owner or lessee who is controlling the warehouse and thus is responsible for the delay. So to try as much as possible to eliminate this administrative burden, shipyards and warehouses would have a one hour window for which this regulation, paying for wait time, would not kick in. So as to stop the gaming of the system where within this one hour the warehouse gives the trucker one box or removes one box from the trucker's truck then claims the regulation does not apply but situation is the trucker still has to wait for the balance of the freight to be loaded or unloaded, Congress should put in the regulation a fair time period for such loading and unloading or let the Department of Transportation determine this and any time in excess of this set time period for a specific trucker by law shall be deemed wait time and the compensation requirement should then apply.

The other way Congress could see that Truckers were treated fairly for wait time, is legally consider this time as time worked by the Trucker for which he or she should be compensated. By this I mean for example a trucker has a contract to deliver cargo from place A to place B for a set number of dollars. A certain amount of this revenue is going to pay fuel expenses and certain amount is going to pay for tolls a certain amount is going to pay for wear and tear on the truck and the balance is for wages for the trucker, one knows pretty much how long it will take to drive a truck from point A to point B so the truckers hourly pay rate can be determined. So the enabling legislation could require the shipyard pay the trucker the contract wage rate for the time period waiting. Congress could just require the Department of Transportation to determine an industry average hourly pay rate for truckers, determined by monitoring the ongoing payment in the industry, and just require the shipyards pay this rate for the wait period incurred by the truckers. For truckers that work for a trucking business or the like, the law could require the shipyard to pay the trucking business and also the trucking business pay the individual truck driver for this wait period.
Off hand i see this as a free market problem that the free market is fixing
 
'The "supply chain problem" is a King Kong size economic problem for America it is helping fuel intolerable inflation in the country. A small part of the "supply chain problem" is a shortage of "truck" drivers, the American Trucking Associations puts the number at eighty-thousand drivers'.

I bet there is, it's been that way for decades.
Truck driving was barely worth it, 30 years ago, not for me, two years of losing $$$ was enough.
A LOT of turnover back then too, I found out why.
Got worse since then, not surprised.
 
Speaking of Carter, lol, anyone remember public utilities? They were stable, very common, sensible, "conservative" investments 50 years ago. You wouldn't get rich quick, but they paid regular cash dividends and you were helping your neighbor, community, state, nation somewhat with your investment. Well, like the decency of driving a truck, that's mostly gone by the wayside since the corporate mob style "deregulation" ushered in by Carter.. Many parallels excellently reviewed and contextualized in the first hour of this show:


Just listen to the first hour. Forget the rest. You'll have no regrets.
 

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