The Week: America's Constitution is terrible. Let's throw it out and start over

[blackhawk]

Uh no lets not.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

America's Constitution is terrible. Let's throw it out and start over.

do you agree?

The Left hates anything and everything that is a part of REAL American heritage...they won't be happy until the constitution is rewritten to suit Mexico, the American flag is redesigned and white people are the minority. I'm not making this shit up...read through a few threads here.

In short, they hate the Constitution because it limits government--not makes it more a part of our lives.

 

[Skylar]

America's Constitution is terrible. Let's throw it out and start over.

do you agree?

I disagree.

 

[Skylar]

America's Constitution is terrible. Let's throw it out and start over.

do you agree?

The Left hates anything and everything that is a part of REAL American heritage...they won't be happy until the constitution is rewritten to suit Mexico, the American flag is redesigned and white people are the minority. I'm not making this shit up...read through a few threads here.

In short, they hate the Constitution because it limits government--not makes it more a part of our lives.

The constitution as written was a deeply flawed document with holes you could drive trucks through. We've improved it since and fixed many of the most egregious mistakes.

 

[imawhosure]

Uh no lets not.

America's Constitution is terrible. Let's throw it out and start over.

do you agree?

The Left hates anything and everything that is a part of REAL American heritage...they won't be happy until the constitution is rewritten to suit Mexico, the American flag is redesigned and white people are the minority. I'm not making this shit up...read through a few threads here.

In short, they hate the Constitution because it limits government--not makes it more a part of our lives.

America's Constitution is terrible. Let's throw it out and start over.

do you agree?

I disagree.

Yeah, yeah, we got here on accident Leftists. Our dumb, old, forefathers didn't have a clue, lol!

HEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO! Why do you think there is an age limitation on POTUS? Because it takes more than your young inferior minds, to run a country-)

 

[BrokeLoser]

America's Constitution is terrible. Let's throw it out and start over.

do you agree?

The Left hates anything and everything that is a part of REAL American heritage...they won't be happy until the constitution is rewritten to suit Mexico, the American flag is redesigned and white people are the minority. I'm not making this shit up...read through a few threads here.

In short, they hate the Constitution because it limits government--not makes it more a part of our lives.

Yep...they should spend their days thanking God they're protected by the constitution...there's no way the good people of this nation would allow Lefties to spread their filth and or birth more of their filthy same if it wasn't for that document.

 

[Skylar]

Uh no lets not.

America's Constitution is terrible. Let's throw it out and start over.

do you agree?

The Left hates anything and everything that is a part of REAL American heritage...they won't be happy until the constitution is rewritten to suit Mexico, the American flag is redesigned and white people are the minority. I'm not making this shit up...read through a few threads here.

In short, they hate the Constitution because it limits government--not makes it more a part of our lives.

America's Constitution is terrible. Let's throw it out and start over.

do you agree?

I disagree.

Yeah, yeah, we got here on accident Leftists. Our dumb, old, forefathers didn't have a clue, lol!

HEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO! Why do you think there is an age limitation on POTUS? Because it takes more than your young inferior minds, to run a country-)

Wow. I get all that vitriol off of two words. You're not much for civil conversation, are you?

And how old did you glean I was from 'I disagree'.

 

[Little-Acorn]

The Week: America's Constitution is terrible. Let's throw it out and start over


Obvious TRANSLATION: The Constitution keep preventing us well-intentioned leftists from using government to control what people do and make this a more orderly, proper country. We should find a way to weaken and/or get rid of it.

(sigh)

 

[imawhosure]

Uh no lets not.

America's Constitution is terrible. Let's throw it out and start over.

do you agree?

The Left hates anything and everything that is a part of REAL American heritage...they won't be happy until the constitution is rewritten to suit Mexico, the American flag is redesigned and white people are the minority. I'm not making this shit up...read through a few threads here.

In short, they hate the Constitution because it limits government--not makes it more a part of our lives.

America's Constitution is terrible. Let's throw it out and start over.

do you agree?

I disagree.

Yeah, yeah, we got here on accident Leftists. Our dumb, old, forefathers didn't have a clue, lol!

HEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO! Why do you think there is an age limitation on POTUS? Because it takes more than your young inferior minds, to run a country-)

Wow. I get all that vitriol off of two words. You're not much for civil conversation, are you?

And how old did you glean I was from 'I disagree'.

About 23-) With the mind of a 13 year old, no matter how old you actually are!

 

[Skylar]

Uh no lets not.

America's Constitution is terrible. Let's throw it out and start over.

do you agree?

The Left hates anything and everything that is a part of REAL American heritage...they won't be happy until the constitution is rewritten to suit Mexico, the American flag is redesigned and white people are the minority. I'm not making this shit up...read through a few threads here.

In short, they hate the Constitution because it limits government--not makes it more a part of our lives.

America's Constitution is terrible. Let's throw it out and start over.

do you agree?

I disagree.

Yeah, yeah, we got here on accident Leftists. Our dumb, old, forefathers didn't have a clue, lol!

HEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO! Why do you think there is an age limitation on POTUS? Because it takes more than your young inferior minds, to run a country-)

Wow. I get all that vitriol off of two words. You're not much for civil conversation, are you?

And how old did you glean I was from 'I disagree'.

About 23-) With the mind of a 13 year old, no matter how old you actually are!

Not even close. Again, where are all these insults coming from? All I said was 'I disagree'.

Is this really all there is to you?

 

[Skylar]

The Week: America's Constitution is terrible. Let's throw it out and start over


Obvious TRANSLATION: The Constitution keep preventing us well-intentioned leftists from using government to control what people do and make this a more orderly, proper country. We should find a way to weaken and/or get rid of it.

(sigh)

The constitution as written had enormous flaws. We've fixed the big ones. Like....owning people. Or the lack of universal suffrage. Or the fact that the Bill of Rights didn't apply to the States.

 

[Little-Acorn]

In normal countries......as in......we are not a normal country?

No, we are not a normal country. We are a country with a charter that strictly limits government and allows people to mostly do what they want, take the consequences of doing so, and learn to do it better on our own - the first one in the world ever to do that.

As a result, we went from a bunch of colonies barely hanging onto survival, to the greatest and most prosperous superpower in the world, in less than 300 years as other nations attacked each other, killed their populations with dictatorships, fascism, and socialism. And we produced more prosperity than all the rest combined during that time.

The author cited by the OP wants to change us into one of the "normal" countries, with the same catastrophic results.

 

[Skylar]

In normal countries......as in......we are not a normal country?

No, we are not a normal country. We are a country with a charter that strictly limits government and allows people to mostly do what they want, and take the consequences of doing so - the first one in the world ever to do that. As a result, we went from a bucnh of colonies barely hanging onto survival, to the greatest superpower in the world, in less than 300 years as other nations attacked each other, killed their populations with dictatorships and fascism, and we produced more prosperity than all the rest combined during that time.

The author cited by the OP wants to change us into one of the "normal" countries, with the same catastrophic results.

Kinda. We were the last man standing after WW2....and that had a lot more to do with geographic isolation than something 'innate' in our democracy. We've done well for ourselves to be sure. But we've had *massive* quantities of resources to work with.

 

[Little-Acorn]

the fact that the Bill of Rights didn't apply to the States.

The usual silly fantasy. The BOR applied to every govt in the U.S., national or local, unless it specifically said otherwise (as the 1st amendment does, for example).

Or did you believe that only the Fed was forbidden to beat a confession out of a suspect, but the states and local governments can???

Or that the Fed had to get a warrant for a search, but the states didn't have to pay attention to that nonsense and could break down your door at any time for any reason it wanted too, with no accountability?

Or that the Fed had to tell you what you were charged with and give you a speedy trial, but for a state crime your state govt could clap you in irons and throw you in a dungeon for a couple of years, without telling you why, while they "worked on the paperwork"?

Etc. etc.

Yours is one of the sillier delusions among leftist ignoramouses. And that's saying something.

 

[Doc1]

When a "Lefty" can't win they want to change the rules. Every time.

 

[Skylar]

the fact that the Bill of Rights didn't apply to the States.

The usual silly fantasy. The BOR applied to every govt in the U.S., national or local, unless it specifically said otherwise (as the 1st amendment does, for example).

Or did you believe that only the Fed was forbidden to beat a confession out of a suspect, but the states and local governments can???

Or that the Fed had to get a warrant for a search, but the states didn't have to pay attention to that nonsense and could break down your door at any time for any reason it wanted too, with no accountability?

Etc. etc.

No, it didn't. The Bill of Rights limited the federal government. It didn't apply to the States at all. A fact that the USSC recognized in Barron v. Baltimore in the early 1800s.

Look at the debates about the 14th amendment with John Bingham and Jacob Howard. Its quite clear that they didn't think the bill of rights applied to the States either.

When Howard introduced the 14th amendment he explicitly said its purpose was to apply the bill of rights to the States. And even read the first 8 amendments on the Senate floor to emphasize the point.

Am I, the framers of the 14th amendment and the USSC all embracing the same 'silly fantasy'? Or are you simply confused?

 

[Little-Acorn]

the fact that the Bill of Rights didn't apply to the States.

The usual silly fantasy. The BOR applied to every govt in the U.S., national or local, unless it specifically said otherwise (as the 1st amendment does, for example).

Or did you believe that only the Fed was forbidden to beat a confession out of a suspect, but the states and local governments can???

Or that the Fed had to get a warrant for a search, but the states didn't have to pay attention to that nonsense and could break down your door at any time for any reason it wanted too, with no accountability?

Etc. etc.

No, it didn't. The Bill of Rights limited the federal government. It didn't apply to the States at all. A fact that the USSC recognized in Barron v. Baltimore in the early 1800s.

Look at the debates about the 14th amendment with John Bingham and Jacob Howard. Its quite clear that they didn't think the bill of rights applied to the States either.

When Howard introduced the 14th amendment he explicitly said its purpose was to apply the bill of rights to the States. And even read the first 8 amendments on the Senate floor to emphasize the point.

Am I, the framers of the 14th amendment and the USSC all embracing the same 'silly fantasy'? Or are you simply confused?

 

[Skylar]

the fact that the Bill of Rights didn't apply to the States.

The usual silly fantasy. The BOR applied to every govt in the U.S., national or local, unless it specifically said otherwise (as the 1st amendment does, for example).

Or did you believe that only the Fed was forbidden to beat a confession out of a suspect, but the states and local governments can???

Or that the Fed had to get a warrant for a search, but the states didn't have to pay attention to that nonsense and could break down your door at any time for any reason it wanted too, with no accountability?

Etc. etc.

No, it didn't. The Bill of Rights limited the federal government. It didn't apply to the States at all. A fact that the USSC recognized in Barron v. Baltimore in the early 1800s.

Look at the debates about the 14th amendment with John Bingham and Jacob Howard. Its quite clear that they didn't think the bill of rights applied to the States either.

When Howard introduced the 14th amendment he explicitly said its purpose was to apply the bill of rights to the States. And even read the first 8 amendments on the Senate floor to emphasize the point.

Am I, the framers of the 14th amendment and the USSC all embracing the same 'silly fantasy'? Or are you simply confused?

You might want to take a moment and work out the use of the quote button. Because your replies are a bit garbled.

 

[imawhosure]

Uh no lets not.

The Left hates anything and everything that is a part of REAL American heritage...they won't be happy until the constitution is rewritten to suit Mexico, the American flag is redesigned and white people are the minority. I'm not making this shit up...read through a few threads here.

In short, they hate the Constitution because it limits government--not makes it more a part of our lives.

America's Constitution is terrible. Let's throw it out and start over.

do you agree?

I disagree.

Yeah, yeah, we got here on accident Leftists. Our dumb, old, forefathers didn't have a clue, lol!

HEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOO! Why do you think there is an age limitation on POTUS? Because it takes more than your young inferior minds, to run a country-)

Wow. I get all that vitriol off of two words. You're not much for civil conversation, are you?

And how old did you glean I was from 'I disagree'.

About 23-) With the mind of a 13 year old, no matter how old you actually are!

Not even close. Again, where are all these insults coming from? All I said was 'I disagree'.

Is this really all there is to you?

Lady, you can disagree all you want, this is America. If you want to be with the losing Left, God bless ya!

 

[Little-Acorn]

No, it didn't. The Bill of Rights limited the federal government. It didn't apply to the States at all.

(references to sources other than the Constitution deleted as they deserved to be)

As I expected, you are unable to answer any of the things I pointed out, and unable to cite any part of the Constitution that said most of the BOR only applies to the Fed govt and not the states.

Of course, the 1st amendment WAS intended to restrict only the Federal government, and not the states or local govts. That was because most states at the time, has official state religions, and the writers of the Constitution didn't want to mess with that. So they wrote into the 1st amendment, "CONGRESS shall make no law...."

But put no such restriction on the rest of the amendments in the BOR.

Anybody else?