The War on Public Schools Continues, Only Now It’s Considered Reinvention’

[Disir]

JJ: Well, Cuomo’s office backpedaled a bit. An aide tweeted, “Teachers are heroes & nothing could ever replace in-person learning.” Meanwhile, they added Eric Schmidt, the [former] head of Google, to the team, whose lead player is Bill Gates. The people now pushing to “Reimagine Education” in the midst of the pandemic, these are the same people—and reflect the worldview—that, for some 20 years now, has been calling itself education reform. And media, too, call people like Bill Gates “reformers.” You have a different name. Tell us about that.

DR: In my book, Slaying Goliath, I refer to Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg, and all these tech titans, and Wall Street and on and on, as disruptors. They have lots of ideas about how to reinvent and reimagine American education. It always involves privatization. It always attacks public control, and democratic control, of schools. And it very frequently involves technology, because what they’re interested in is cutting the cost of education, and the most expensive aspect of public education is teachers.

'The War on Public Schools Continues, Only Now It's Considered Reinvention' - FAIR

"I would like to see them expose this hoax that somehow, promoting privatization benefits the neediest children, when, in fact, privatization hurts the neediest children."

fair.org

And buildings. At issue is that there are a lot of kids that don't do well with online only education. So, when I hear this shit what it sounds like a whole lot of out of sight out of mind crap. I hate neoliberals.

 

[Oddball]

I wish there really were a "war" on gubmint schools....No private company could ever get away with producing such a purposefully inferior and defective product and still be in business.

 

[Disir]

They don't get to pick and choose. They take everyone.

 

[DOTR]

They don't get to pick and choose. They take everyone.

Thats part of the problem. But I think this flight from public schools by normal Americans has been counterproductive. We all have to live with their product. We should demand the Department of Education be disbanded and return schools to the locals. That is the only fix. Another example of the failure that must always come when you let the federal government into what should be local institutions. Its been a disaster.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

They don't get to pick and choose. They take everyone.

Thats part of the problem. But I think this flight from public schools by normal Americans has been counterproductive. We all have to live with their product. We should demand the Department of Education be disbanded and return schools to the locals. That is the only fix. Another example of the failure that must always come when you let the federal government into what should be local institutions. Its been a disaster.

Name a current federal policy that has a negative impact on local schools. Nevermind! You cannot possible do that!

States and local communities already control their schools. That is why most public schools in the US do an excellent job, and the liberal dominated inner city schools suck!

 

[Damaged Eagle]

They don't get to pick and choose. They take everyone.

A teacher shouldn't have to have a bachelors, masters, or doctorate, to teach. If they were a high rated student when leaving high school they are more than capable of stepping into a teaching job for the things they did well at. In which case the cost of education would drop dramatically.

Demanding such only means that we're going back to the feudal cast system.

*****SMILE*****

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

They don't get to pick and choose. They take everyone.

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A teacher shouldn't have to have a bachelors, masters, or doctorate, to teach. If they were a high rated student when leaving high school they are more than capable of stepping into a teaching job for the things they did well at. In which case the cost of education would drop dramatically.

Demanding such only means that we're going back to the feudal cast system.

*****SMILE*****

You gotta grease them palms...people gotta get paid. You can't just let kids go teach? Are you crazy? We have a system to support.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

They don't get to pick and choose. They take everyone.

View attachment 343579

A teacher shouldn't have to have a bachelors, masters, or doctorate, to teach. If they were a high rated student when leaving high school they are more than capable of stepping into a teaching job for the things they did well at. In which case the cost of education would drop dramatically.

Demanding such only means that we're going back to the feudal cast system.

*****SMILE*****

You gotta grease them palms...people gotta get paid. You can't just let kids go teach? Are you crazy? We have a system to support.

That's the problem.

*****SMILE*****

 

[Disir]

They don't get to pick and choose. They take everyone.

Thats part of the problem. But I think this flight from public schools by normal Americans has been counterproductive. We all have to live with their product. We should demand the Department of Education be disbanded and return schools to the locals. That is the only fix. Another example of the failure that must always come when you let the federal government into what should be local institutions. Its been a disaster.

The push since Reagan has been to privatize the education system.

What I dislike is the most is the level of BS that they insist on vomiting to do what they have been planning to do since Reagan.

 

[Disir]

They don't get to pick and choose. They take everyone.

View attachment 343579

A teacher shouldn't have to have a bachelors, masters, or doctorate, to teach. If they were a high rated student when leaving high school they are more than capable of stepping into a teaching job for the things they did well at. In which case the cost of education would drop dramatically.

Demanding such only means that we're going back to the feudal cast system.

*****SMILE*****

Ah, so are you telling me that your vision of teachers is the same as McDonalds?

 

[BULLDOG]

JJ: Well, Cuomo’s office backpedaled a bit. An aide tweeted, “Teachers are heroes & nothing could ever replace in-person learning.” Meanwhile, they added Eric Schmidt, the [former] head of Google, to the team, whose lead player is Bill Gates. The people now pushing to “Reimagine Education” in the midst of the pandemic, these are the same people—and reflect the worldview—that, for some 20 years now, has been calling itself education reform. And media, too, call people like Bill Gates “reformers.” You have a different name. Tell us about that.

DR: In my book, Slaying Goliath, I refer to Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg, and all these tech titans, and Wall Street and on and on, as disruptors. They have lots of ideas about how to reinvent and reimagine American education. It always involves privatization. It always attacks public control, and democratic control, of schools. And it very frequently involves technology, because what they’re interested in is cutting the cost of education, and the most expensive aspect of public education is teachers.

'The War on Public Schools Continues, Only Now It's Considered Reinvention' - FAIR

"I would like to see them expose this hoax that somehow, promoting privatization benefits the neediest children, when, in fact, privatization hurts the neediest children."

fair.org

And buildings. At issue is that there are a lot of kids that don't do well with online only education. So, when I hear this shit what it sounds like a whole lot of out of sight out of mind crap. I hate neoliberals.

Sounds like you are firmly against home schooling. I'm glad to hear that.

 

[initforme]

Why is the ultimate goal ALWAYS to have people make less? Whether it's a teacher, janitor, garbage collector, store worker, auto worker, the list goes on. It seems there is an effort to see labor make less too. Where does this warped regressive plan come from?

 

[Damaged Eagle]

They don't get to pick and choose. They take everyone.

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A teacher shouldn't have to have a bachelors, masters, or doctorate, to teach. If they were a high rated student when leaving high school they are more than capable of stepping into a teaching job for the things they did well at. In which case the cost of education would drop dramatically.

Demanding such only means that we're going back to the feudal cast system.

*****SMILE*****

Ah, so are you telling me that your vision of teachers is the same as McDonalds?

While the current vision, which you must share, is that the ones most qualified to hold those teaching jobs have to be connected to someone like; bankers wife, lawyers wife, doctors wife, WalMart manager wife, etc, etc, because they are obviously the most qualified because they're special therefore they deserve more and more..... While others who don't have those connections might be allowed to substitute teach even though they might be more qualified.

Time to break the nepotistic cast system even if that means lowering the bar and wage/benefits to do it. Especially when home schoolers score higher on ACT's and SAT's than those that attend public or private schools.

*****SMILE*****

 

[Likkmee]

Awww man, I forgot about schools. Too bad they're not open now. The training vids on the news would be really beneficial. They could burn down their own schools for practice !

 

[BULLDOG]

 

[Damaged Eagle]

They don't get to pick and choose. They take everyone.

View attachment 343579

A teacher shouldn't have to have a bachelors, masters, or doctorate, to teach. If they were a high rated student when leaving high school they are more than capable of stepping into a teaching job for the things they did well at. In which case the cost of education would drop dramatically.

Demanding such only means that we're going back to the feudal cast system.

*****SMILE*****

Ah, so are you telling me that your vision of teachers is the same as McDonalds?

BTW: I had 90 credits in electronics and teaching (approximately 45 credits towards each) transfer into a major university when I started. Then I was told that none of those credits counted towards getting me out of any classes in the College Of Liberal Arts (I was studying Physics) or the College Of Education (I was studying Secondary Education) at either of those branches of the campus.

So yeah an entrenched cast system with nepotism built in.

I now hold over 200 worthless credits because I realized that even if I did graduate I would be better off doing construction and farming because I didn't have those kind of...... connections.

*****SMILE*****

 

[Disir]

They don't get to pick and choose. They take everyone.

View attachment 343579

A teacher shouldn't have to have a bachelors, masters, or doctorate, to teach. If they were a high rated student when leaving high school they are more than capable of stepping into a teaching job for the things they did well at. In which case the cost of education would drop dramatically.

Demanding such only means that we're going back to the feudal cast system.

*****SMILE*****

Ah, so are you telling me that your vision of teachers is the same as McDonalds?

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While the current vision, which you must share, is that the ones most qualified to hold those teaching jobs have to be connected to someone like; bankers wife, lawyers wife, doctors wife, WalMart manager wife, etc, etc, because they are obviously the most qualified because they're special therefore they deserve more and more..... While others who don't have those connections might be allowed to substitute teach even though they might be more qualified.

Time to break the nepotistic cast system even if that means lowering the bar and wage/benefits to do it.

*****SMILE*****

Nope. For secondary education, I was working the political science program and the education program (2 different departments) AND state certification. Praxis testing as well.

The state that I am currently living in doesn't have a requirement for "teacher's aide" and special education has already been McDonalized and most of those (para) do not have a degree. Of course, they are more likely to get the bejeezes kicked out of them as well.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

.....Of course, they are more likely to get the bejeezes kicked out of them as well.

So the school looks the other way when those "special" jocks decide to have their fun and be brutal because they're someone "special"?

Is that what you're saying here?

*****SMILE*****

 

[Disir]

.....Of course, they are more likely to get the bejeezes kicked out of them as well.

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So the school looks the other way when those "special" jocks decide to have their fun and be brutal because they're someone "special"?

Is that what you're saying here?

*****SMILE*****

They looked the other way when they refused to hire people that were qualified like..........special education teachers. Amazingly similar to how people look the other way with charter schools and real estate fraud.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

.....Of course, they are more likely to get the bejeezes kicked out of them as well.

View attachment 343610

So the school looks the other way when those "special" jocks decide to have their fun and be brutal because they're someone "special"?

Is that what you're saying here?

*****SMILE*****

They looked the other way when they refused to hire people that were qualified like..........special education teachers. Amazingly similar to how people look the other way with charter schools and real estate fraud.

As I stated a entrenched cast system being perpetuated by nepotism.

*****SMILE*****