The following are my beliefs which in part come from my faith. I believe God created the material world and everything in it. Please feel free to discuss.

God himself created the visible world in all its richness, diversity and order. Scripture presents the work of the Creator symbolically as a succession of six days of divine "work", concluded by the "rest" of the seventh day. On the subject of creation, the sacred text teaches the truths revealed by God for our salvation, permitting us to recognize the inner nature, the value and the ordering of the whole of creation to the praise of God.

I believe that Nothing exists that does not owe its existence to God the Creator. The world began when God's word drew it out of nothingness; all existent beings, all of nature, and all human history are rooted in this primordial event, the very genesis by which the world was constituted and time begun.

I believe that each creature possesses its own particular goodness and perfection. For each one of the works of the "six days" it is said: "And God saw that it was good." By the very nature of creation, material being is endowed with its own stability, truth and excellence, its own order and laws. Each of the various creatures, willed in its own being, reflects in its own way a ray of God's infinite wisdom and goodness. Man must therefore respect the particular goodness of every creature, to avoid any disordered use of things which would be in contempt of the Creator and would bring disastrous consequences for human beings and their environment.

I believe that God wills the interdependence of creatures. The spectacle of their countless diversities and inequalities tells us that no creature is self-sufficient. Creatures exist only in dependence on each other, to complete each other, in the service of each other.

I see the beauty of the universe. The order and harmony of the created world results from the diversity of beings and from the relationships which exist among them. Man discovers them progressively as the laws of nature. They call forth the admiration of scholars. The beauty of creation reflects the infinite beauty of the Creator and ought to inspire the respect and submission of man's intellect and will.

I believe the hierarchy of creatures is expressed by the order of the "six days", from the less perfect to the more perfect. God loves all his creatures and takes care of each one. Nevertheless, Jesus said: "You are of more value than many sparrows", or again: "Of how much more value is a man than a sheep!"

I believe that man is the summit of the Creator's work, as the inspired account expresses by clearly distinguishing the creation of man from that of the other creatures.

I believe there is a solidarity among all creatures arising from the fact that all have the same Creator and are all ordered to his glory.


Paraphrased and excerpted from the Catechism of the Catholic Church

"I believe that Nothing exists that does not owe its existence to God the Creator." So parents of deformed and retarded babies now know what happened, it was god who made their baby like that.
If that's how you want to see it, sure, Taz. Of course I see it like with infinite power God could always create something better. But with infinite wisdom and goodness God freely willed to create a world "in a state of journeying" towards its ultimate perfection. In God's plan this process of becoming involves the appearance of certain beings and the disappearance of others, the existence of the more perfect alongside the less perfect, both constructive and destructive forces of nature. For almighty God. . ., because he is supremely good, would never allow anything bad to exist in his works if he were not so all-powerful and good as to cause good to emerge from it.
How do you know that it's "in a state of journeying" towards its ultimate perfection.
How can you not?
That's not proof, c'mon, give it a little effort.
How do you know it's not? Where's your proof?
You made the statement, it's up to you to prove it. My proof is you have none.
 
The following are my beliefs which in part come from my faith. I believe God created the material world and everything in it. Please feel free to discuss.

God himself created the visible world in all its richness, diversity and order. Scripture presents the work of the Creator symbolically as a succession of six days of divine "work", concluded by the "rest" of the seventh day. On the subject of creation, the sacred text teaches the truths revealed by God for our salvation, permitting us to recognize the inner nature, the value and the ordering of the whole of creation to the praise of God.

I believe that Nothing exists that does not owe its existence to God the Creator. The world began when God's word drew it out of nothingness; all existent beings, all of nature, and all human history are rooted in this primordial event, the very genesis by which the world was constituted and time begun.

I believe that each creature possesses its own particular goodness and perfection. For each one of the works of the "six days" it is said: "And God saw that it was good." By the very nature of creation, material being is endowed with its own stability, truth and excellence, its own order and laws. Each of the various creatures, willed in its own being, reflects in its own way a ray of God's infinite wisdom and goodness. Man must therefore respect the particular goodness of every creature, to avoid any disordered use of things which would be in contempt of the Creator and would bring disastrous consequences for human beings and their environment.

I believe that God wills the interdependence of creatures. The spectacle of their countless diversities and inequalities tells us that no creature is self-sufficient. Creatures exist only in dependence on each other, to complete each other, in the service of each other.

I see the beauty of the universe. The order and harmony of the created world results from the diversity of beings and from the relationships which exist among them. Man discovers them progressively as the laws of nature. They call forth the admiration of scholars. The beauty of creation reflects the infinite beauty of the Creator and ought to inspire the respect and submission of man's intellect and will.

I believe the hierarchy of creatures is expressed by the order of the "six days", from the less perfect to the more perfect. God loves all his creatures and takes care of each one. Nevertheless, Jesus said: "You are of more value than many sparrows", or again: "Of how much more value is a man than a sheep!"

I believe that man is the summit of the Creator's work, as the inspired account expresses by clearly distinguishing the creation of man from that of the other creatures.

I believe there is a solidarity among all creatures arising from the fact that all have the same Creator and are all ordered to his glory.


Paraphrased and excerpted from the Catechism of the Catholic Church

"I believe that man is the summit of the Creator's work". Does that include Josef Mengele?
Sure and you too. ;)

What you intend for evil, God is using for good.
So god was using Mengele for good? :cuckoo:
If that's how you want to see it, but then of course you would have to see it that God is using you for good too.
So god wasn't using Mengele for good?
So God isn't using you for good?
Talking about Mengele, was god using him for good?
 
The following are my beliefs which in part come from my faith. I believe God created the material world and everything in it. Please feel free to discuss.

God himself created the visible world in all its richness, diversity and order. Scripture presents the work of the Creator symbolically as a succession of six days of divine "work", concluded by the "rest" of the seventh day. On the subject of creation, the sacred text teaches the truths revealed by God for our salvation, permitting us to recognize the inner nature, the value and the ordering of the whole of creation to the praise of God.

I believe that Nothing exists that does not owe its existence to God the Creator. The world began when God's word drew it out of nothingness; all existent beings, all of nature, and all human history are rooted in this primordial event, the very genesis by which the world was constituted and time begun.

I believe that each creature possesses its own particular goodness and perfection. For each one of the works of the "six days" it is said: "And God saw that it was good." By the very nature of creation, material being is endowed with its own stability, truth and excellence, its own order and laws. Each of the various creatures, willed in its own being, reflects in its own way a ray of God's infinite wisdom and goodness. Man must therefore respect the particular goodness of every creature, to avoid any disordered use of things which would be in contempt of the Creator and would bring disastrous consequences for human beings and their environment.

I believe that God wills the interdependence of creatures. The spectacle of their countless diversities and inequalities tells us that no creature is self-sufficient. Creatures exist only in dependence on each other, to complete each other, in the service of each other.

I see the beauty of the universe. The order and harmony of the created world results from the diversity of beings and from the relationships which exist among them. Man discovers them progressively as the laws of nature. They call forth the admiration of scholars. The beauty of creation reflects the infinite beauty of the Creator and ought to inspire the respect and submission of man's intellect and will.

I believe the hierarchy of creatures is expressed by the order of the "six days", from the less perfect to the more perfect. God loves all his creatures and takes care of each one. Nevertheless, Jesus said: "You are of more value than many sparrows", or again: "Of how much more value is a man than a sheep!"

I believe that man is the summit of the Creator's work, as the inspired account expresses by clearly distinguishing the creation of man from that of the other creatures.

I believe there is a solidarity among all creatures arising from the fact that all have the same Creator and are all ordered to his glory.


Paraphrased and excerpted from the Catechism of the Catholic Church

"I believe that Nothing exists that does not owe its existence to God the Creator." So parents of deformed and retarded babies now know what happened, it was god who made their baby like that.
If that's how you want to see it, sure, Taz. Of course I see it like with infinite power God could always create something better. But with infinite wisdom and goodness God freely willed to create a world "in a state of journeying" towards its ultimate perfection. In God's plan this process of becoming involves the appearance of certain beings and the disappearance of others, the existence of the more perfect alongside the less perfect, both constructive and destructive forces of nature. For almighty God. . ., because he is supremely good, would never allow anything bad to exist in his works if he were not so all-powerful and good as to cause good to emerge from it.
How do you know that it's "in a state of journeying" towards its ultimate perfection.
How can you not?
That's not proof, c'mon, give it a little effort.
How do you know it's not? Where's your proof?
You made the statement, it's up to you to prove it. My proof is you have none.
So it's my job to convince you of stuff?

Take it or leave it, taz. You aren't the center of the universe. :lol:
 
The following are my beliefs which in part come from my faith. I believe God created the material world and everything in it. Please feel free to discuss.

God himself created the visible world in all its richness, diversity and order. Scripture presents the work of the Creator symbolically as a succession of six days of divine "work", concluded by the "rest" of the seventh day. On the subject of creation, the sacred text teaches the truths revealed by God for our salvation, permitting us to recognize the inner nature, the value and the ordering of the whole of creation to the praise of God.

I believe that Nothing exists that does not owe its existence to God the Creator. The world began when God's word drew it out of nothingness; all existent beings, all of nature, and all human history are rooted in this primordial event, the very genesis by which the world was constituted and time begun.

I believe that each creature possesses its own particular goodness and perfection. For each one of the works of the "six days" it is said: "And God saw that it was good." By the very nature of creation, material being is endowed with its own stability, truth and excellence, its own order and laws. Each of the various creatures, willed in its own being, reflects in its own way a ray of God's infinite wisdom and goodness. Man must therefore respect the particular goodness of every creature, to avoid any disordered use of things which would be in contempt of the Creator and would bring disastrous consequences for human beings and their environment.

I believe that God wills the interdependence of creatures. The spectacle of their countless diversities and inequalities tells us that no creature is self-sufficient. Creatures exist only in dependence on each other, to complete each other, in the service of each other.

I see the beauty of the universe. The order and harmony of the created world results from the diversity of beings and from the relationships which exist among them. Man discovers them progressively as the laws of nature. They call forth the admiration of scholars. The beauty of creation reflects the infinite beauty of the Creator and ought to inspire the respect and submission of man's intellect and will.

I believe the hierarchy of creatures is expressed by the order of the "six days", from the less perfect to the more perfect. God loves all his creatures and takes care of each one. Nevertheless, Jesus said: "You are of more value than many sparrows", or again: "Of how much more value is a man than a sheep!"

I believe that man is the summit of the Creator's work, as the inspired account expresses by clearly distinguishing the creation of man from that of the other creatures.

I believe there is a solidarity among all creatures arising from the fact that all have the same Creator and are all ordered to his glory.


Paraphrased and excerpted from the Catechism of the Catholic Church

"I believe that man is the summit of the Creator's work". Does that include Josef Mengele?
Sure and you too. ;)

What you intend for evil, God is using for good.
So god was using Mengele for good? :cuckoo:
If that's how you want to see it, but then of course you would have to see it that God is using you for good too.
So god wasn't using Mengele for good?
So God isn't using you for good?
Talking about Mengele, was god using him for good?
Is God using you for good, Taz?
 
The following are my beliefs which in part come from my faith. I believe God created the material world and everything in it. Please feel free to discuss.

God himself created the visible world in all its richness, diversity and order. Scripture presents the work of the Creator symbolically as a succession of six days of divine "work", concluded by the "rest" of the seventh day. On the subject of creation, the sacred text teaches the truths revealed by God for our salvation, permitting us to recognize the inner nature, the value and the ordering of the whole of creation to the praise of God.

I believe that Nothing exists that does not owe its existence to God the Creator. The world began when God's word drew it out of nothingness; all existent beings, all of nature, and all human history are rooted in this primordial event, the very genesis by which the world was constituted and time begun.

I believe that each creature possesses its own particular goodness and perfection. For each one of the works of the "six days" it is said: "And God saw that it was good." By the very nature of creation, material being is endowed with its own stability, truth and excellence, its own order and laws. Each of the various creatures, willed in its own being, reflects in its own way a ray of God's infinite wisdom and goodness. Man must therefore respect the particular goodness of every creature, to avoid any disordered use of things which would be in contempt of the Creator and would bring disastrous consequences for human beings and their environment.

I believe that God wills the interdependence of creatures. The spectacle of their countless diversities and inequalities tells us that no creature is self-sufficient. Creatures exist only in dependence on each other, to complete each other, in the service of each other.

I see the beauty of the universe. The order and harmony of the created world results from the diversity of beings and from the relationships which exist among them. Man discovers them progressively as the laws of nature. They call forth the admiration of scholars. The beauty of creation reflects the infinite beauty of the Creator and ought to inspire the respect and submission of man's intellect and will.

I believe the hierarchy of creatures is expressed by the order of the "six days", from the less perfect to the more perfect. God loves all his creatures and takes care of each one. Nevertheless, Jesus said: "You are of more value than many sparrows", or again: "Of how much more value is a man than a sheep!"

I believe that man is the summit of the Creator's work, as the inspired account expresses by clearly distinguishing the creation of man from that of the other creatures.

I believe there is a solidarity among all creatures arising from the fact that all have the same Creator and are all ordered to his glory.


Paraphrased and excerpted from the Catechism of the Catholic Church

"I believe that Nothing exists that does not owe its existence to God the Creator." So parents of deformed and retarded babies now know what happened, it was god who made their baby like that.
If that's how you want to see it, sure, Taz. Of course I see it like with infinite power God could always create something better. But with infinite wisdom and goodness God freely willed to create a world "in a state of journeying" towards its ultimate perfection. In God's plan this process of becoming involves the appearance of certain beings and the disappearance of others, the existence of the more perfect alongside the less perfect, both constructive and destructive forces of nature. For almighty God. . ., because he is supremely good, would never allow anything bad to exist in his works if he were not so all-powerful and good as to cause good to emerge from it.
How do you know that it's "in a state of journeying" towards its ultimate perfection.
How can you not?
That's not proof, c'mon, give it a little effort.
How do you know it's not? Where's your proof?
You made the statement, it's up to you to prove it. My proof is you have none.
So it's my job to convince you of stuff?

Take it or leave it, taz. You aren't the center of the universe. :lol:
I leave that kind of stuff as an opinion, maybe a theory for fartsmoke like yours that NEVER gets proven. No biggie.
 
The following are my beliefs which in part come from my faith. I believe God created the material world and everything in it. Please feel free to discuss.

God himself created the visible world in all its richness, diversity and order. Scripture presents the work of the Creator symbolically as a succession of six days of divine "work", concluded by the "rest" of the seventh day. On the subject of creation, the sacred text teaches the truths revealed by God for our salvation, permitting us to recognize the inner nature, the value and the ordering of the whole of creation to the praise of God.

I believe that Nothing exists that does not owe its existence to God the Creator. The world began when God's word drew it out of nothingness; all existent beings, all of nature, and all human history are rooted in this primordial event, the very genesis by which the world was constituted and time begun.

I believe that each creature possesses its own particular goodness and perfection. For each one of the works of the "six days" it is said: "And God saw that it was good." By the very nature of creation, material being is endowed with its own stability, truth and excellence, its own order and laws. Each of the various creatures, willed in its own being, reflects in its own way a ray of God's infinite wisdom and goodness. Man must therefore respect the particular goodness of every creature, to avoid any disordered use of things which would be in contempt of the Creator and would bring disastrous consequences for human beings and their environment.

I believe that God wills the interdependence of creatures. The spectacle of their countless diversities and inequalities tells us that no creature is self-sufficient. Creatures exist only in dependence on each other, to complete each other, in the service of each other.

I see the beauty of the universe. The order and harmony of the created world results from the diversity of beings and from the relationships which exist among them. Man discovers them progressively as the laws of nature. They call forth the admiration of scholars. The beauty of creation reflects the infinite beauty of the Creator and ought to inspire the respect and submission of man's intellect and will.

I believe the hierarchy of creatures is expressed by the order of the "six days", from the less perfect to the more perfect. God loves all his creatures and takes care of each one. Nevertheless, Jesus said: "You are of more value than many sparrows", or again: "Of how much more value is a man than a sheep!"

I believe that man is the summit of the Creator's work, as the inspired account expresses by clearly distinguishing the creation of man from that of the other creatures.

I believe there is a solidarity among all creatures arising from the fact that all have the same Creator and are all ordered to his glory.


Paraphrased and excerpted from the Catechism of the Catholic Church

"I believe that man is the summit of the Creator's work". Does that include Josef Mengele?
Sure and you too. ;)

What you intend for evil, God is using for good.
So god was using Mengele for good? :cuckoo:
If that's how you want to see it, but then of course you would have to see it that God is using you for good too.
So god wasn't using Mengele for good?
So God isn't using you for good?
Talking about Mengele, was god using him for good?
Is God using you for good, Taz?
I'm not a TOTAL prick, lol. That to you is god's work?
 
The following are my beliefs which in part come from my faith. I believe God created the material world and everything in it. Please feel free to discuss.

God himself created the visible world in all its richness, diversity and order. Scripture presents the work of the Creator symbolically as a succession of six days of divine "work", concluded by the "rest" of the seventh day. On the subject of creation, the sacred text teaches the truths revealed by God for our salvation, permitting us to recognize the inner nature, the value and the ordering of the whole of creation to the praise of God.

I believe that Nothing exists that does not owe its existence to God the Creator. The world began when God's word drew it out of nothingness; all existent beings, all of nature, and all human history are rooted in this primordial event, the very genesis by which the world was constituted and time begun.

I believe that each creature possesses its own particular goodness and perfection. For each one of the works of the "six days" it is said: "And God saw that it was good." By the very nature of creation, material being is endowed with its own stability, truth and excellence, its own order and laws. Each of the various creatures, willed in its own being, reflects in its own way a ray of God's infinite wisdom and goodness. Man must therefore respect the particular goodness of every creature, to avoid any disordered use of things which would be in contempt of the Creator and would bring disastrous consequences for human beings and their environment.

I believe that God wills the interdependence of creatures. The spectacle of their countless diversities and inequalities tells us that no creature is self-sufficient. Creatures exist only in dependence on each other, to complete each other, in the service of each other.

I see the beauty of the universe. The order and harmony of the created world results from the diversity of beings and from the relationships which exist among them. Man discovers them progressively as the laws of nature. They call forth the admiration of scholars. The beauty of creation reflects the infinite beauty of the Creator and ought to inspire the respect and submission of man's intellect and will.

I believe the hierarchy of creatures is expressed by the order of the "six days", from the less perfect to the more perfect. God loves all his creatures and takes care of each one. Nevertheless, Jesus said: "You are of more value than many sparrows", or again: "Of how much more value is a man than a sheep!"

I believe that man is the summit of the Creator's work, as the inspired account expresses by clearly distinguishing the creation of man from that of the other creatures.

I believe there is a solidarity among all creatures arising from the fact that all have the same Creator and are all ordered to his glory.


Paraphrased and excerpted from the Catechism of the Catholic Church

"I believe that Nothing exists that does not owe its existence to God the Creator." So parents of deformed and retarded babies now know what happened, it was god who made their baby like that.
If that's how you want to see it, sure, Taz. Of course I see it like with infinite power God could always create something better. But with infinite wisdom and goodness God freely willed to create a world "in a state of journeying" towards its ultimate perfection. In God's plan this process of becoming involves the appearance of certain beings and the disappearance of others, the existence of the more perfect alongside the less perfect, both constructive and destructive forces of nature. For almighty God. . ., because he is supremely good, would never allow anything bad to exist in his works if he were not so all-powerful and good as to cause good to emerge from it.
How do you know that it's "in a state of journeying" towards its ultimate perfection.
How can you not?
That's not proof, c'mon, give it a little effort.
How do you know it's not? Where's your proof?
You made the statement, it's up to you to prove it. My proof is you have none.
So it's my job to convince you of stuff?

Take it or leave it, taz. You aren't the center of the universe. :lol:
I leave that kind of stuff as an opinion, maybe a theory for fartsmoke like yours that NEVER gets proven. No biggie.
Good for you, Taz. That's really showing me. :lol:
 
The following are my beliefs which in part come from my faith. I believe God created the material world and everything in it. Please feel free to discuss.

God himself created the visible world in all its richness, diversity and order. Scripture presents the work of the Creator symbolically as a succession of six days of divine "work", concluded by the "rest" of the seventh day. On the subject of creation, the sacred text teaches the truths revealed by God for our salvation, permitting us to recognize the inner nature, the value and the ordering of the whole of creation to the praise of God.

I believe that Nothing exists that does not owe its existence to God the Creator. The world began when God's word drew it out of nothingness; all existent beings, all of nature, and all human history are rooted in this primordial event, the very genesis by which the world was constituted and time begun.

I believe that each creature possesses its own particular goodness and perfection. For each one of the works of the "six days" it is said: "And God saw that it was good." By the very nature of creation, material being is endowed with its own stability, truth and excellence, its own order and laws. Each of the various creatures, willed in its own being, reflects in its own way a ray of God's infinite wisdom and goodness. Man must therefore respect the particular goodness of every creature, to avoid any disordered use of things which would be in contempt of the Creator and would bring disastrous consequences for human beings and their environment.

I believe that God wills the interdependence of creatures. The spectacle of their countless diversities and inequalities tells us that no creature is self-sufficient. Creatures exist only in dependence on each other, to complete each other, in the service of each other.

I see the beauty of the universe. The order and harmony of the created world results from the diversity of beings and from the relationships which exist among them. Man discovers them progressively as the laws of nature. They call forth the admiration of scholars. The beauty of creation reflects the infinite beauty of the Creator and ought to inspire the respect and submission of man's intellect and will.

I believe the hierarchy of creatures is expressed by the order of the "six days", from the less perfect to the more perfect. God loves all his creatures and takes care of each one. Nevertheless, Jesus said: "You are of more value than many sparrows", or again: "Of how much more value is a man than a sheep!"

I believe that man is the summit of the Creator's work, as the inspired account expresses by clearly distinguishing the creation of man from that of the other creatures.

I believe there is a solidarity among all creatures arising from the fact that all have the same Creator and are all ordered to his glory.


Paraphrased and excerpted from the Catechism of the Catholic Church

"I believe that man is the summit of the Creator's work". Does that include Josef Mengele?
Sure and you too. ;)

What you intend for evil, God is using for good.
So god was using Mengele for good? :cuckoo:
If that's how you want to see it, but then of course you would have to see it that God is using you for good too.
So god wasn't using Mengele for good?
So God isn't using you for good?
Talking about Mengele, was god using him for good?
Is God using you for good, Taz?
I'm not a TOTAL prick, lol. That to you is god's work?
So in your mind if you were a total prick that would be God using you for good?

I don't believe you understand how it works.
 
The following are my beliefs which in part come from my faith. I believe God created the material world and everything in it. Please feel free to discuss.

God himself created the visible world in all its richness, diversity and order. Scripture presents the work of the Creator symbolically as a succession of six days of divine "work", concluded by the "rest" of the seventh day. On the subject of creation, the sacred text teaches the truths revealed by God for our salvation, permitting us to recognize the inner nature, the value and the ordering of the whole of creation to the praise of God.

I believe that Nothing exists that does not owe its existence to God the Creator. The world began when God's word drew it out of nothingness; all existent beings, all of nature, and all human history are rooted in this primordial event, the very genesis by which the world was constituted and time begun.

I believe that each creature possesses its own particular goodness and perfection. For each one of the works of the "six days" it is said: "And God saw that it was good." By the very nature of creation, material being is endowed with its own stability, truth and excellence, its own order and laws. Each of the various creatures, willed in its own being, reflects in its own way a ray of God's infinite wisdom and goodness. Man must therefore respect the particular goodness of every creature, to avoid any disordered use of things which would be in contempt of the Creator and would bring disastrous consequences for human beings and their environment.

I believe that God wills the interdependence of creatures. The spectacle of their countless diversities and inequalities tells us that no creature is self-sufficient. Creatures exist only in dependence on each other, to complete each other, in the service of each other.

I see the beauty of the universe. The order and harmony of the created world results from the diversity of beings and from the relationships which exist among them. Man discovers them progressively as the laws of nature. They call forth the admiration of scholars. The beauty of creation reflects the infinite beauty of the Creator and ought to inspire the respect and submission of man's intellect and will.

I believe the hierarchy of creatures is expressed by the order of the "six days", from the less perfect to the more perfect. God loves all his creatures and takes care of each one. Nevertheless, Jesus said: "You are of more value than many sparrows", or again: "Of how much more value is a man than a sheep!"

I believe that man is the summit of the Creator's work, as the inspired account expresses by clearly distinguishing the creation of man from that of the other creatures.

I believe there is a solidarity among all creatures arising from the fact that all have the same Creator and are all ordered to his glory.


Paraphrased and excerpted from the Catechism of the Catholic Church

"I believe that Nothing exists that does not owe its existence to God the Creator." So parents of deformed and retarded babies now know what happened, it was god who made their baby like that.
If that's how you want to see it, sure, Taz. Of course I see it like with infinite power God could always create something better. But with infinite wisdom and goodness God freely willed to create a world "in a state of journeying" towards its ultimate perfection. In God's plan this process of becoming involves the appearance of certain beings and the disappearance of others, the existence of the more perfect alongside the less perfect, both constructive and destructive forces of nature. For almighty God. . ., because he is supremely good, would never allow anything bad to exist in his works if he were not so all-powerful and good as to cause good to emerge from it.
How do you know that it's "in a state of journeying" towards its ultimate perfection.
How can you not?
That's not proof, c'mon, give it a little effort.
How do you know it's not? Where's your proof?
You made the statement, it's up to you to prove it. My proof is you have none.
So it's my job to convince you of stuff?

Take it or leave it, taz. You aren't the center of the universe. :lol:
I leave that kind of stuff as an opinion, maybe a theory for fartsmoke like yours that NEVER gets proven. No biggie.
Good for you, Taz. That's really showing me. :lol:
Not trying to do anything except tell it how it is. You're the word salad fartsmoke king. Hands down.
 
The following are my beliefs which in part come from my faith. I believe God created the material world and everything in it. Please feel free to discuss.

God himself created the visible world in all its richness, diversity and order. Scripture presents the work of the Creator symbolically as a succession of six days of divine "work", concluded by the "rest" of the seventh day. On the subject of creation, the sacred text teaches the truths revealed by God for our salvation, permitting us to recognize the inner nature, the value and the ordering of the whole of creation to the praise of God.

I believe that Nothing exists that does not owe its existence to God the Creator. The world began when God's word drew it out of nothingness; all existent beings, all of nature, and all human history are rooted in this primordial event, the very genesis by which the world was constituted and time begun.

I believe that each creature possesses its own particular goodness and perfection. For each one of the works of the "six days" it is said: "And God saw that it was good." By the very nature of creation, material being is endowed with its own stability, truth and excellence, its own order and laws. Each of the various creatures, willed in its own being, reflects in its own way a ray of God's infinite wisdom and goodness. Man must therefore respect the particular goodness of every creature, to avoid any disordered use of things which would be in contempt of the Creator and would bring disastrous consequences for human beings and their environment.

I believe that God wills the interdependence of creatures. The spectacle of their countless diversities and inequalities tells us that no creature is self-sufficient. Creatures exist only in dependence on each other, to complete each other, in the service of each other.

I see the beauty of the universe. The order and harmony of the created world results from the diversity of beings and from the relationships which exist among them. Man discovers them progressively as the laws of nature. They call forth the admiration of scholars. The beauty of creation reflects the infinite beauty of the Creator and ought to inspire the respect and submission of man's intellect and will.

I believe the hierarchy of creatures is expressed by the order of the "six days", from the less perfect to the more perfect. God loves all his creatures and takes care of each one. Nevertheless, Jesus said: "You are of more value than many sparrows", or again: "Of how much more value is a man than a sheep!"

I believe that man is the summit of the Creator's work, as the inspired account expresses by clearly distinguishing the creation of man from that of the other creatures.

I believe there is a solidarity among all creatures arising from the fact that all have the same Creator and are all ordered to his glory.


Paraphrased and excerpted from the Catechism of the Catholic Church

"I believe that Nothing exists that does not owe its existence to God the Creator." So parents of deformed and retarded babies now know what happened, it was god who made their baby like that.
If that's how you want to see it, sure, Taz. Of course I see it like with infinite power God could always create something better. But with infinite wisdom and goodness God freely willed to create a world "in a state of journeying" towards its ultimate perfection. In God's plan this process of becoming involves the appearance of certain beings and the disappearance of others, the existence of the more perfect alongside the less perfect, both constructive and destructive forces of nature. For almighty God. . ., because he is supremely good, would never allow anything bad to exist in his works if he were not so all-powerful and good as to cause good to emerge from it.
How do you know that it's "in a state of journeying" towards its ultimate perfection.
How can you not?
That's not proof, c'mon, give it a little effort.
How do you know it's not? Where's your proof?
You made the statement, it's up to you to prove it. My proof is you have none.
So it's my job to convince you of stuff?

Take it or leave it, taz. You aren't the center of the universe. :lol:
I leave that kind of stuff as an opinion, maybe a theory for fartsmoke like yours that NEVER gets proven. No biggie.
Good for you, Taz. That's really showing me. :lol:
Not trying to do anything except tell it how it is. You're the word salad fartsmoke king. Hands down.
Because I don't play your silly game, Taz?
 
I don't believe you understand how it works.
Neither do you.
Sure I do. That's how I sleep like a baby at night... knowing that everything works for good. I know that error can't stand. Eventually error fails. You can take it to the bank. I don't have to take my frustrations out on other people like you do, Taz.
 
The following are my beliefs which in part come from my faith. I believe God created the material world and everything in it. Please feel free to discuss.

God himself created the visible world in all its richness, diversity and order. Scripture presents the work of the Creator symbolically as a succession of six days of divine "work", concluded by the "rest" of the seventh day. On the subject of creation, the sacred text teaches the truths revealed by God for our salvation, permitting us to recognize the inner nature, the value and the ordering of the whole of creation to the praise of God.

I believe that Nothing exists that does not owe its existence to God the Creator. The world began when God's word drew it out of nothingness; all existent beings, all of nature, and all human history are rooted in this primordial event, the very genesis by which the world was constituted and time begun.

I believe that each creature possesses its own particular goodness and perfection. For each one of the works of the "six days" it is said: "And God saw that it was good." By the very nature of creation, material being is endowed with its own stability, truth and excellence, its own order and laws. Each of the various creatures, willed in its own being, reflects in its own way a ray of God's infinite wisdom and goodness. Man must therefore respect the particular goodness of every creature, to avoid any disordered use of things which would be in contempt of the Creator and would bring disastrous consequences for human beings and their environment.

I believe that God wills the interdependence of creatures. The spectacle of their countless diversities and inequalities tells us that no creature is self-sufficient. Creatures exist only in dependence on each other, to complete each other, in the service of each other.

I see the beauty of the universe. The order and harmony of the created world results from the diversity of beings and from the relationships which exist among them. Man discovers them progressively as the laws of nature. They call forth the admiration of scholars. The beauty of creation reflects the infinite beauty of the Creator and ought to inspire the respect and submission of man's intellect and will.

I believe the hierarchy of creatures is expressed by the order of the "six days", from the less perfect to the more perfect. God loves all his creatures and takes care of each one. Nevertheless, Jesus said: "You are of more value than many sparrows", or again: "Of how much more value is a man than a sheep!"

I believe that man is the summit of the Creator's work, as the inspired account expresses by clearly distinguishing the creation of man from that of the other creatures.

I believe there is a solidarity among all creatures arising from the fact that all have the same Creator and are all ordered to his glory.


Paraphrased and excerpted from the Catechism of the Catholic Church

"I believe that Nothing exists that does not owe its existence to God the Creator." So parents of deformed and retarded babies now know what happened, it was god who made their baby like that.
If that's how you want to see it, sure, Taz. Of course I see it like with infinite power God could always create something better. But with infinite wisdom and goodness God freely willed to create a world "in a state of journeying" towards its ultimate perfection. In God's plan this process of becoming involves the appearance of certain beings and the disappearance of others, the existence of the more perfect alongside the less perfect, both constructive and destructive forces of nature. For almighty God. . ., because he is supremely good, would never allow anything bad to exist in his works if he were not so all-powerful and good as to cause good to emerge from it.
How do you know that it's "in a state of journeying" towards its ultimate perfection.
How can you not?
That's not proof, c'mon, give it a little effort.
How do you know it's not? Where's your proof?
You made the statement, it's up to you to prove it. My proof is you have none.
So it's my job to convince you of stuff?

Take it or leave it, taz. You aren't the center of the universe. :lol:
I leave that kind of stuff as an opinion, maybe a theory for fartsmoke like yours that NEVER gets proven. No biggie.
Good for you, Taz. That's really showing me. :lol:
Not trying to do anything except tell it how it is. You're the word salad fartsmoke king. Hands down.
Because I don't play your silly game, Taz?
Because you never actually prove anything. Even you know that.
 
I don't believe you understand how it works.
Neither do you.
Sure I do. That's how I sleep like a baby at night... knowing that everything works for good. I know that error can't stand. Eventually error fails. You can take it to the bank. I don't have to take my frustrations out on other people like you do, Taz.
You imagine all of it. It's not real, provable stuff.
 
The following are my beliefs which in part come from my faith. I believe God created the material world and everything in it. Please feel free to discuss.

God himself created the visible world in all its richness, diversity and order. Scripture presents the work of the Creator symbolically as a succession of six days of divine "work", concluded by the "rest" of the seventh day. On the subject of creation, the sacred text teaches the truths revealed by God for our salvation, permitting us to recognize the inner nature, the value and the ordering of the whole of creation to the praise of God.

I believe that Nothing exists that does not owe its existence to God the Creator. The world began when God's word drew it out of nothingness; all existent beings, all of nature, and all human history are rooted in this primordial event, the very genesis by which the world was constituted and time begun.

I believe that each creature possesses its own particular goodness and perfection. For each one of the works of the "six days" it is said: "And God saw that it was good." By the very nature of creation, material being is endowed with its own stability, truth and excellence, its own order and laws. Each of the various creatures, willed in its own being, reflects in its own way a ray of God's infinite wisdom and goodness. Man must therefore respect the particular goodness of every creature, to avoid any disordered use of things which would be in contempt of the Creator and would bring disastrous consequences for human beings and their environment.

I believe that God wills the interdependence of creatures. The spectacle of their countless diversities and inequalities tells us that no creature is self-sufficient. Creatures exist only in dependence on each other, to complete each other, in the service of each other.

I see the beauty of the universe. The order and harmony of the created world results from the diversity of beings and from the relationships which exist among them. Man discovers them progressively as the laws of nature. They call forth the admiration of scholars. The beauty of creation reflects the infinite beauty of the Creator and ought to inspire the respect and submission of man's intellect and will.

I believe the hierarchy of creatures is expressed by the order of the "six days", from the less perfect to the more perfect. God loves all his creatures and takes care of each one. Nevertheless, Jesus said: "You are of more value than many sparrows", or again: "Of how much more value is a man than a sheep!"

I believe that man is the summit of the Creator's work, as the inspired account expresses by clearly distinguishing the creation of man from that of the other creatures.

I believe there is a solidarity among all creatures arising from the fact that all have the same Creator and are all ordered to his glory.


Paraphrased and excerpted from the Catechism of the Catholic Church

"I believe that Nothing exists that does not owe its existence to God the Creator." So parents of deformed and retarded babies now know what happened, it was god who made their baby like that.
If that's how you want to see it, sure, Taz. Of course I see it like with infinite power God could always create something better. But with infinite wisdom and goodness God freely willed to create a world "in a state of journeying" towards its ultimate perfection. In God's plan this process of becoming involves the appearance of certain beings and the disappearance of others, the existence of the more perfect alongside the less perfect, both constructive and destructive forces of nature. For almighty God. . ., because he is supremely good, would never allow anything bad to exist in his works if he were not so all-powerful and good as to cause good to emerge from it.
How do you know that it's "in a state of journeying" towards its ultimate perfection.
How can you not?
That's not proof, c'mon, give it a little effort.
How do you know it's not? Where's your proof?
You made the statement, it's up to you to prove it. My proof is you have none.
So it's my job to convince you of stuff?

Take it or leave it, taz. You aren't the center of the universe. :lol:
I leave that kind of stuff as an opinion, maybe a theory for fartsmoke like yours that NEVER gets proven. No biggie.
Good for you, Taz. That's really showing me. :lol:
Not trying to do anything except tell it how it is. You're the word salad fartsmoke king. Hands down.
Because I don't play your silly game, Taz?
Because you never actually prove anything. Even you know that.
I know that I have you playing my game. Want me to prove that?
 
I don't believe you understand how it works.
Neither do you.
Sure I do. That's how I sleep like a baby at night... knowing that everything works for good. I know that error can't stand. Eventually error fails. You can take it to the bank. I don't have to take my frustrations out on other people like you do, Taz.
You imagine all of it. It's not real, provable stuff.
I guess you will find out. :lol:
 
I don't believe you understand how it works.
Neither do you.
Sure I do. That's how I sleep like a baby at night... knowing that everything works for good. I know that error can't stand. Eventually error fails. You can take it to the bank. I don't have to take my frustrations out on other people like you do, Taz.
You imagine all of it. It's not real, provable stuff.
I guess you will find out. :lol:
There’s nothing that you put forward that was proven, so bite me.
 
I don't believe you understand how it works.
Neither do you.
Sure I do. That's how I sleep like a baby at night... knowing that everything works for good. I know that error can't stand. Eventually error fails. You can take it to the bank. I don't have to take my frustrations out on other people like you do, Taz.
You imagine all of it. It's not real, provable stuff.
I guess you will find out. :lol:
There’s nothing that you put forward that was proven, so bite me.
It's not my job to convince you, dummy. Why can't you get that through your pea size brain?
 
I don't believe you understand how it works.
Neither do you.
Sure I do. That's how I sleep like a baby at night... knowing that everything works for good. I know that error can't stand. Eventually error fails. You can take it to the bank. I don't have to take my frustrations out on other people like you do, Taz.
You imagine all of it. It's not real, provable stuff.
I guess you will find out. :lol:
There’s nothing that you put forward that was proven, so bite me.
It's not my job to convince you, dummy. Why can't you get that through your pea size brain?
But you wish you could.
 
I don't believe you understand how it works.
Neither do you.
Sure I do. That's how I sleep like a baby at night... knowing that everything works for good. I know that error can't stand. Eventually error fails. You can take it to the bank. I don't have to take my frustrations out on other people like you do, Taz.
You imagine all of it. It's not real, provable stuff.
I guess you will find out. :lol:
There’s nothing that you put forward that was proven, so bite me.
It's not my job to convince you, dummy. Why can't you get that through your pea size brain?
But you wish you could.
Because why?
 

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