The United States Is Reaping What It Sowed in Ukraine

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"By contrast, most U.S. politicians and corporate media have fallen in line with a one-sided narrative that paints Russia as the aggressor in Ukraine, and supports sending more weapons to Ukrainian government forces. "

The most critical events that have been airbrushed out of the West’s political narrative are the violation of agreements that Western leaders made at the end of the Cold War not to expand NATO into Eastern Europe, and the U.S.-backed coup in Ukraine in February 2014. Western mainstream media accounts instead date the crisis in Ukraine back to Russia’s reintegration of Crimea in 2014, and the decision by ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine to secede from Ukraine as the Luhansk and Donetsk People’s Republics.

But these were not unprovoked actions; they were responses to the U.S.-backed coup, in which an armed mob led by the neo-Nazi Right Sector militia stormed the Ukrainian parliament, forcing the elected President Viktor Yanukovich and members of his party to flee for their lives.

The remaining members of parliament voted to form a new government, subverting the political transition and plans for a new election that Yanukovich had publicly agreed to the day before, after meetings with the foreign ministers of France, Germany, and Poland.

"The U.S. role in managing the coup was exposed by a leaked 2014 audio recording of Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and U.S. Ambassador Geoffrey Pyatt working on their plans, which included sidelining the European Union and shoehorning in U.S. protege Arseniy Yatsenyuk as prime minister."



In her own voice. This is all laid at your Progressive Leaders feet.
 
The west is not, and never was, the aggressor. Ever hear of the Cold War? They are our enemy! They want to destroy the free way of life. Ukraine is bleeding those Ivan's out so American boys won't do it later. Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea are our enemies. I hope to god people don't forget that.

Pay no attention to the Progressive source. You people are hopeless.
 
Fuck the progressives, I am not a progressive! I am a conservative, ashamed at my own party, for turning their backs on "the west". Since when do patriotic Americans view Americans and her allies as a lying "west"?

A true Patriot would be able to breathe and realize that WE, the West are responsible for this War. Pootie is NOT a good guy but WE broke our agreement with him. You SHOULD be ashamed of your own "party" they are not and never have been what you think they are/were.
 
A true Patriot would be able to breathe and realize that WE, the West are responsible for this War. Pootie is NOT a good guy but WE broke our agreement with him. You SHOULD be ashamed of your own "party" they are not and never have been what you think they are/were.


And how did WE start the war, eh? A coup? Was that it? Bullshit. Russia wants Ukraine to be a puppet state of Russia, exactly like Belarus, just to do his own bidding. Coup or not. Putin needs to quit holding dreams of expanding back to the Soviet Union era borders. Thank god his military sucks to the point where that is likely to never happen. The "West" didn't start the war. Putin did. And WE will finish it.
 
And how did WE start the war, eh? A coup? Was that it? Bullshit. Russia wants Ukraine to be a puppet state of Russia, exactly like Belarus, just to do his own bidding. Coup or not. Putin needs to quit holding dreams of expanding back to the Soviet Union era borders. Thank god his military sucks to the point where that is likely to never happen. The "West" didn't start the war. Putin did. And WE will finish it.

Read the article.

"We" will finish it? Cool here's to sending your kids to die over there.
 
And how did WE start the war, eh? A coup? Was that it? Bullshit. Russia wants Ukraine to be a puppet state of Russia, exactly like Belarus, just to do his own bidding. Coup or not. Putin needs to quit holding dreams of expanding back to the Soviet Union era borders. Thank god his military sucks to the point where that is likely to never happen. The "West" didn't start the war. Putin did. And WE will finish it.

^^^^^^
Living proof that brain dead people inhabit both sides.
 
CLEARLY a biased website......


Since 1909, The Progressive has aimed to amplify voices of dissent and those under-represented in the mainstream, with a goal of championing grassroots progressive politics. Our bedrock values are nonviolence and freedom of speech.

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Read the article.

"We" will finish it? Cool here's to sending your kids to die over there.


We are not sending anyone over there. Putin is a tactical idiot, but even he knows that if he so much as uses one nuke, all of Nato will respond, because every one of them probably has an ICBM pointed at Moscow by now. Be a coward if you wish. We have the upper hand, and Putin knows it. Your children aren't going anywhere.
 
We are not sending anyone over there. Putin is a tactical idiot, but even he knows that if he so much as uses one nuke, all of Nato will respond, because every one of them probably has an ICBM pointed at Moscow by now. Be a coward if you wish. We have the upper hand, and Putin knows it. Your children aren't going anywhere.

No, they aren't. You want to use NATO and Ukraine as a proxy for your War, how valiant of you . Oh so brave, easy to cheer when you have no skin in the game. Obama set all of this up.
 
It isn't our war, it's Ukraine's war, they just happen to be a big help to us by killing off one of our biggest enemies armies.

A Progressive source was cited and it explains that this all started ramping up because of what Obama did and all you have in "Nuh-Uh"? How very enlightened of you. I even posted a video of Victoria Nuland admitting what happened. Astonishing.
It gets worse but you are nowhere near ready for that.
 
A Progressive source was cited and it explains that this all started ramping up because of what Obama did and all you have in "Nuh-Uh"? How very enlightened of you. I even posted a video of Victoria Nuland admitting what happened. Astonishing.
It gets worse but you are nowhere near ready for that.


I told you I am no progressive. And I don't care what Obama did, it isn't why Putin is attacking now. Putin wanted all of Ukraine, and he saw that Biden was a weak chickenshit, so he invaded while he had the chance. Pure, plain and simple.
 

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