The Temple Mount -- the differences between Israeli (Western) and Palestinian (Muslim) Discourse

[Billo_Really]

The land you speak of are called Judea and Samaria, which the invading Hashemite Arabs were "gifted" by the British in 1925.

Judea and Samaria are THE ancient homeland of the Jews. And from 1948 to 1967 all Jews were ethnically cleansed from those lands, and from TransJordan in 1925, and from Hebron in 1929.

You can go on with your disgusting ignorance towards the Jewish People, your bigoted ideas, all you like.

NONE of that land has EVER been Palestinian, because Palestinians did not come to "exist" until 1964. Arafat and the KGB invented that nationality for the Arabs living in Gaza and Judea and Samaria, which the Jordanians now called "West Bank".

The Jordanians lost the war. Never between 1948 and 1967 thought of creating a State for those Arabs. They wanted the land for themselves. And attacked again in 1967 to take more land. But that time they lost.

As you put it, The Hashemites had NO RIGHT to the land they took in 1948, via war, because it was NEVER THEIRS.

So, Egypt took Gaza in 1948 and did nothing to "give it " to those living there.
Jordan took Judea and Samaria and did nothing to "give it" to those living there.



You are ignorant of history. And THAT, is unacceptable.

Judea and Samaria are ancient Palestinian homeland, not yours!

 

[Sixties Fan]

Judea and Samaria are ancient Palestinian homeland, not yours!

IGNORANT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You will not find ANY "Palestinian" history with the Greeks, Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Romans, Persians,Byzantine, Muslims, Crusaders, Ottomans or British.

Good luck in finding any of it.

 

[Billo_Really]

IGNORANT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You will not find ANY "Palestinian" history with the Greeks, Egyptians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Romans, Persians,Byzantine, Muslims, Crusaders, Ottomans or British.

Good luck in finding any of it.

It doesn't matter what you call them, Palestinian-Arabs and Palestinian-Jews have been living there for a 1000 years and they both have rights!

 

[Hollie]

It doesn't matter what you call them, Palestinian-Arabs and Palestinian-Jews have been living there for a 1000 years and they both have rights!

You might want to temper that ignorance with a strongly worded email to Hamas.

The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988

Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).

 

[Sixties Fan]

It doesn't matter what you call them, Palestinian-Arabs and Palestinian-Jews have been living there for a 1000 years and they both have rights!

Exactly.

But that is not what the Arabs, who are invaders from the 7th century, say.

They say that there is not Jewish History on the land.

They say that THEY are the legitimate indigenous people of the land.

They say that they have been on that land for 10,000 years.

They say that they are descendants of the Philistines.
(those were of Greek origin)


They say, they say, and they say.


The Arab Muslims do not respect Jews. They do not respect Jewish Holy places, or cemeteries, or anywhere else where there is Jewish history.

Muslim extremists want to destroy Israel and never let the Jews back on the land again.


Peaceful Muslims and Christians want to live in peace with Jews in Israel, as Israeli citizens.

Peaceful Muslims and Christians in Gaza want to live in peace with Jews and Israel.

UNWRA does nothing but to teach that all of Israel belongs to the Arabs.

UNWRA does nothing but to teach hatred towards the Jews and Israel.


In some Muslim and Christian world, Jews have no rights at all, especially of being sovereign of any land once conquered by Islam.


It comes down to Islam.

It is all about Islam.


Get educated.

 

[Billo_Really]

You might want to temper that ignorance with a strongly worded email to Hamas.

The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988

Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).

That hatred is the only thing you know. This is your crutch, irregardless of the truth.

 

[Billo_Really]

Exactly.

But that is not what the Arabs, who are invaders from the 7th century, say.

They say that there is not Jewish History on the land.

They say that THEY are the legitimate indigenous people of the land.

They say that they have been on that land for 10,000 years.

They say that they are descendants of the Philistines.
(those were of Greek origin)


They say, they say, and they say.


The Arab Muslims do not respect Jews. They do not respect Jewish Holy places, or cemeteries, or anywhere else where there is Jewish history.

Muslim extremists want to destroy Israel and never let the Jews back on the land again.


Peaceful Muslims and Christians want to live in peace with Jews in Israel, as Israeli citizens.

Peaceful Muslims and Christians in Gaza want to live in peace with Jews and Israel.

UNWRA does nothing but to teach that all of Israel belongs to the Arabs.

UNWRA does nothing but to teach hatred towards the Jews and Israel.


In some Muslim and Christian world, Jews have no rights at all, especially of being sovereign of any land once conquered by Islam.


It comes down to Islam.

It is all about Islam.


Get educated.

If that is what "they" are saying, then "they" are nuts! However, I don't think that is what the majority are saying.

 

[Sixties Fan]

That hatred is the only thing you know. This is your crutch, irregardless of the truth.

What Hollie posted is what has sworn to do, since that covenant. They want to obliterate Israel.

But the haters are on the other side, as you always say.


You show nothing but sympathy for those who want to destroy Israel and kill Jews, or get them to be as they used to be, second class citizens.

There is the Abraham Accords, and you do not have the foggiest idea of what it is and what it does, and why so many Arab countries are signing the accord and wanting peace with the Israelis.

You do not care.

You do not care.

You do not care.

Write it another 1000 times:

I, Billo, do not care.

 

[Billo_Really]

What Hollie posted is what has sworn to do, since that covenant. They want to obliterate Israel.

But the haters are on the other side, as you always say.


You show nothing but sympathy for those who want to destroy Israel and kill Jews, or get them to be as they used to be, second class citizens.

There is the Abraham Accords, and you do not have the foggiest idea of what it is and what it does, and why so many Arab countries are signing the accord and wanting peace with the Israelis.

You do not care.

You do not care.

You do not care.

Write it another 1000 times:

I, Billo, do not care.

No, that is what you want, because you and Hollie do not want peace!

 

[Sixties Fan]

If that is what "they" are saying, then "they" are nuts! However, I don't think that is what the majority are saying.

You do not know because you do not care to know.

You do not know the Arab League.

You do not know Al Husseini

You do not know what UNWRA teaches in Gaza and the PA

You do not know that the map of Palestine, according to Hamas and the PA is ALL of Israel.

You do not know that to all of those Arabs in Gaza and in PA, who are taught that Jews are not humans,
they are going to continue to attack Jews, all over the world, because ....regardless of what you did post in another post......


Jews have no rights in the eyes of Muslims.

No different than it has been about Jews having rights in Christian Europe.

 

[Billo_Really]

You do not know because you do not care to know.

You do not know the Arab League.

You do not know Al Husseini

You do not know what UNWRA teaches in Gaza and the PA

You do not know that the map of Palestine, according to Hamas and the PA is ALL of Israel.

You do not know that to all of those Arabs in Gaza and in PA, who are taught that Jews are not humans,
they are going to continue to attack Jews, all over the world, because ....regardless of what you did post in another post......


Jews have no rights in the eyes of Muslims.

No different than it has been about Jews having rights in Christian Europe.

For once you are completely right......about me! The first line of your post is 100% correct. Bravo!

 

[rylah]

No, that is what you want, because you and Hollie do not want peace!

There's no word for 'peace' in Arabic.

For example, for me the condition for peace,
is when Jews can service the Temple in Jerusalem.

Until then - the only just ultimatum is 'to do Islam to Muslims'.
So for 'peace' sake, how much jizyah should Muslims pay,
in lands liberated from Islam?