The scum just keeps on rising...

[Bullypulpit]

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New allegations of prisoner abuse at both Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay are surfacing, and these events occurred some two months after the whole nauseating mess first erupted. The allegations include, "<i>...strangulation, beatings and the placing of lit cigarettes into detainees' ears...

...shackled to the floor in foetal positions for more than 24 hours at a time, left without food and water and allowed to defecate on themselves...</i>" - <a href=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4113679.stm>BBC World Service</a>.

Such actions clearly violate not only US law, but also international law and the UN Convention Against Torture, which the US has long been a signatory to. And let's not forget <a href=http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo13107.htm>Executive Order 13107</a>. Issued by Bill Clinton in 1998, it enjoins the US and its forces to abide by ALL conventtions on human rights, and it's one Dubbyuh hasn't gotten around to rescinding...at least not publicly.

We can see a clear pattern here starting with the memos written by John Yoo, and others, which were vetted and approved by then White House counsel, Alberto Gonzales. Torture is O.K., unlimited and arbitrary presidential power is O.K. In short, anything which furthers the neo-con agenda is O.K., the ends justify the means, reagrdless of where that path might lead.

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[CSM]

<center><h1><font color=red>Do we see a pattern emerging here?</font></h1></center>

New allegations of prisoner abuse at both Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay are surfacing, and these events occurred some two months after the whole nauseating mess first erupted. The allegations include, "<i>...strangulation, beatings and the placing of lit cigarettes into detainees' ears...

...shackled to the floor in foetal positions for more than 24 hours at a time, left without food and water and allowed to defecate on themselves...</i>" - <a href=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4113679.stm>BBC World Service</a>.

Such actions clearly violate not only US law, but also international law and the UN Convention Against Torture, which the US has long been a signatory to. And let's not forget <a href=http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo13107.htm>Executive Order 13107</a>. Issued by Bill Clinton in 1998, it enjoins the US and its forces to abide by ALL conventtions on human rights, and it's one Dubbyuh hasn't gotten around to rescinding...at least not publicly.

We can see a clear pattern here starting with the memos written by John Yoo, and others, which were vetted and approved by then White House counsel, Alberto Gonzales. Torture is O.K., unlimited and arbitrary presidential power is O.K. In short, anything which furthers the neo-con agenda is O.K., the ends justify the means, reagrdless of where that path might lead.

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The pattern I see here is Europeanists, liberals, Bush haters, anti war folks, board trolls and other self righteous people trying desperately to keep the "anybody but Bush" campaign alive. The memos are old news. The whole thing is/was investigated; people are being prosecuted. Lynching the President for the abuses at that prison would not and will not resolve anything except to make people Like Bully feel important.

 

[Bullypulpit]

The pattern I see here is Europeanists, liberals, Bush haters, anti war folks, board trolls and other self righteous people trying desperately to keep the "anybody but Bush" campaign alive. The memos are old news. The whole thing is/was investigated; people are being prosecuted. Lynching the President for the abuses at that prison would not and will not resolve anything except to make people Like Bully feel important.

You REALLY don't get it, do you?

 

[CSM]

You REALLY don't get it, do you?

I get it ...you are a troll. You like to Bush bash. You want some kind of big scandal on Bush so you can Bush bash some more. I get it just fine. Is Bush perfect? no, of course not; but he is not as evil as you wish he were.

You do amuse me though.

 

[Bullypulpit]

I get it ...you are a troll. You like to Bush bash. You want some kind of big scandal on Bush so you can Bush bash some more. I get it just fine. Is Bush perfect? no, of course not; but he is not as evil as you wish he were.

You do amuse me though.

Actually, he's not bright enough to be that evil, but his handler's are more than capable of greater evil than we can imagine.

 

[dilloduck]

Actually, he's not bright enough to be that evil, but his handler's are more than capable of greater evil than we can imagine.

Fill us in Bully---what's the big evil conspiracy?

 

[no1tovote4]

Fill us in Bully---what's the big evil conspiracy?

Haven't you heard? The Alien cultures and GWB were in collusion in the Amelia Earhart disappearance! I saw it in another thread therefore it must be true.

 

[NATO AIR]

bully, seriously, i think bush is a pretty shrewd man... he may not be very well-spoken or well-versed, but he isn't some dumb ol hick like so many on the left portray him

when you all call him stupid, you're only underestimating him further and you continue to lose, and lose badly, at the polls on all levels

 

[no1tovote4]

bully, seriously, i think bush is a pretty shrewd man... he may not be very well-spoken or well-versed, but he isn't some dumb ol hick like so many on the left portray him

when you all call him stupid, you're only underestimating him further and you continue to lose, and lose badly, at the polls on all levels

I saw some footage of a debate between him and Whatsername that he beat to become Governor. It was clear to me that Bush puts on a show with the English thing, he was well spoken and clear. It appears that his style is able to get him political wins though, I wouldn't change it if I were he.

 

[NATO AIR]

I saw some footage of a debate between him and Whatsername that he beat to become Governor. It was clear to me that Bush puts on a show with the English thing, he was well spoken and clear. It appears that his style is able to get him political wins though, I wouldn't change it if I were he.

I'd agree to an extent.

Sometimes the brightest bulbs in the room aren't the best speakers or explainers.

 

[no1tovote4]

I'd agree to an extent.

Sometimes the brightest bulbs in the room aren't the best speakers or explainers.

And sometimes the most intelligent make the worst leaders.

 

[Bullypulpit]

bully, seriously, i think bush is a pretty shrewd man... he may not be very well-spoken or well-versed, but he isn't some dumb ol hick like so many on the left portray him

when you all call him stupid, you're only underestimating him further and you continue to lose, and lose badly, at the polls on all levels

That was irony, old son.