The Right’s Violence Problem

[Orangecat]

How many did the Catholic NAZIs kill? How many did the Shinto Japanese kill?

Google it, dumbass. Probably not 100,000,000.

 

[Rigby5]

This thread is all backwards.

The side that is willing to kill and die for what they believe in, counts in their favor, not against them.
There are lots of things everyone should be willing to kill and die for.
The people unwilling to do that, tend to be the lazy, greedy, and selfish.

For example, what ultimately caused people to end the illegal war in Vietnam, was the Weathermen setting off bombs in protest. It was not Jerry Rubin and Abby Hoffman giving speeches. No one would have listened to any speeches if not for the Weatherman violence.
It is violence that gets things noticed and changed.
The pacifist approach of the left is totally ineffective.
I disagree with the right, but one thing they are correct about is that you have to commit violence in order to change anything.
For example, the illegal War on Drugs has been going on for over 30 years.
We still do not have public health care and instead Obama tried to mandate private insurance.
Over 65% of the federal spending is on the military, for illegal foreign takeovers.
Our military murdered almost half a million innocent Iraqis, and not a single person has been prosecuted for these war crimes.
How long will people remain abused like sheep?

 

[g5000]

This thread is all backwards.

The side that is willing to kill and die for what they believe in, counts in their favor, not against them.

Wow.

Just...wow.

Shooting negroes in a supermarket counts in their favor.

Holy, holy, holy mother of God save us from fucktards like this poster.

 

[sartre play]

VIOLENCE to support Any political party makes dead people, Are we really interested in killing to support those who support their pocket books, personal interests & those who give them the big bribes to there campaigns.

 

[bripat9643]

They didn’t make a big deal about it being a hate crime when Muslims shoot people because they don’t want you guys attacking Muslims in retaliation.

Blacks won’t retaliate for the ten dead this weekend. Maybe.

So they don't care if we shoot black guys in retaliation for all the George Floyd rioting?

 

[Couchpotato]

The Right’s Violence Problem​

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Over the past decade, the Anti-Defamation League has counted about 450 U.S. murders committed by political extremists.

Of these 450 killings, right-wing extremists committed about 75 percent. Islamic extremists were responsible for about 20 percent, and left-wing extremists were responsible for 4 percent.

Nearly half of the murders were specifically tied to white supremacists.

[snip]

It’s important to emphasize that not all extremist violence comes from the right — and that the precise explanation for any one attack can be murky, involving a mixture of ideology, mental illness, gun access and more. In the immediate aftermath of an attack, people are sometimes too quick to claim a direct cause and effect. But it is also incorrect to pretend that right-wing violence and left-wing violence are equivalent problems.

[snip]

If you talk to members of Congress and their aides these days — especially off the record — you will often hear them mention their fears of violence being committed against them.

Some Republican members of Congress have said that they were reluctant to vote for Trump’s impeachment or conviction partly because of the threats against other members who had already denounced him. House Republicans who voted for President Biden’s infrastructure bill also received threats. Democrats say their offices receive a spike in phone calls and online messages threatening violence after they are criticized on conservative social media or cable television shows.

People who oversee elections report similar problems. “One in six election officials have experienced threats because of their job,” the Brennan Center, a research group, reported this year. “Ranging from death threats that name officials’ young children to racist and gendered harassment, these attacks have forced election officials across the country to take steps like hiring personal security, fleeing their homes, and putting their children into counseling.”

[snip]

At the rally that preceded the Jan. 6 attack, Representative Mo Brooks suggested the crowd should “start taking down names and kicking ass.” Before she was elected to Congress, Marjorie Taylor Greene supported the idea of executing Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and other top Democrats. Representative Paul Gosar once posted an animated video altered to depict himself killing Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and swinging swords at Biden.

[snip]

There is often overlap between these violent threats and white supremacist beliefs. White supremacy tends to treat people of color as un-American or even less than fully human, views that can make violence seem justifiable. The suspect in the Buffalo massacre evidently posted an online manifesto that discussed replacement theory, a racial conspiracy theory that Tucker Carlson promotes on his Fox News show.


It is far past time for Republican leadership to shut down the violent and ignorant rhetoric coming from their ranks. As Liz Cheney says, "“History has taught us that what begins with words ends in far worse."

Lets assume your stats are true. That's 45 murders a year. 75% of that is 34 There are 240 million white people in the US. Assume 40% are Republican thats 96 million. So .000035 % of the white population in the US committed a hate murder over the past decade and that's assuming it's a one for one deal. If some loon white kid kills 10 people in a grocery store because he spent too much time on whack a doodle internet sites then the percentage drops precipitously. So thanks for pointing out that hate violence is likely over blown hyperbole and not the biggest threat in the US.

 

[g5000]

Lets assume your stats are true. That's 45 murders a year. 75% of that is 34 There are 240 million white people in the US. Assume 40% are Republican thats 96 million. So .000035 % of the white population in the US committed a hate murder over the past decade and that's assuming it's a one for one deal. If some loon white kid kills 10 people in a grocery store because he spent too much time on whack a doodle internet sites then the percentage drops precipitously. So thanks for pointing out that hate violence is likely over blown hyperbole and not the biggest threat in the US.

This same kind of rhetoric led to the January 6 insurrection, and that is a HUGE threat.

It only takes one maniac to kill a President.

 

[Richard-H]

This thread is all backwards.

The side that is willing to kill and die for what they believe in, counts in their favor, not against them.
There are lots of things everyone should be willing to kill and die for.
The people unwilling to do that, tend to be the lazy, greedy, and selfish.

For example, what ultimately caused people to end the illegal war in Vietnam, was the Weathermen setting off bombs in protest. It was not Jerry Rubin and Abby Hoffman giving speeches. No one would have listened to any speeches if not for the Weatherman violence.
It is violence that gets things noticed and changed.
The pacifist approach of the left is totally ineffective.
I disagree with the right, but one thing they are correct about is that you have to commit violence in order to change anything.
For example, the illegal War on Drugs has been going on for over 30 years.
We still do not have public health care and instead Obama tried to mandate private insurance.
Over 65% of the federal spending is on the military, for illegal foreign takeovers.
Our military murdered almost half a million innocent Iraqis, and not a single person has been prosecuted for these war crimes.
How long will people remain abused like sheep?

The Weathermen bombings had nothing to do with ending the Vietnam War. Most Americans were unaware of the Weatherman.

What ended the Vietnam war was the failure of the U.S. government to use the Tet offensive battlefield victory to force an end to the war. It became apparent that the U.S. government didn't want to end the war and that the only way it would ever end was with a defeat.

 

[TNHarley]

Still entertaining this bullshit OP?
First mass shootings were all about whitey.
Then, it went to males in general.
Since those 2 didnt work, they make bullshit articles like this and blame politics and the rube herd eats it up like sunday brunch.
And the sad thing is, you dipshits still buy into it.
Every.
Single.
Time.
Its like you fucking morons cant think at all. They should have NEVER put warnings on Draino.

 

[scruffy]

That's their only option since mass murders in America this day is almost the sole purvey of Republican white-winger supremacists and INCELS.

What a retarded brain dead leftie liar you are.

MOST of the mass shooters are lefties.

MOST of the non-mass shooters are lefties.

LEFTY PROGTARDS are the violent ones. The one with a badge killed an unarmed woman whose only crime was trespassing.

 

[scruffy]

This same kind of rhetoric led to the January 6 insurrection, and that is a HUGE threat.

It only takes one maniac to kill a President.

They weren't after the president, dimwit.

And since when do lefties care about riots?

 

[22lcidw]

You are conflating everyday murders with murders motivated by political extremism.

Nice try.

When you attain power by lies than everything becomes a lie. All of this tremendous power by Progressive Communists and yet the indoctrination never ends because the system is based on lies. Most if not all Black on White crime is racism. No matter the lies you follow. Biden is the defender of the Prog realm and yet he has been around for 50 years as we see his white skin every day condemning white people for the same thing, he himself does and has done. It cannot last because the people pushing equality and now equity live like royalty compared to the serfs.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Define leftist. Yesterday a Republican friend called biden a fascist. You guys are stupid.

So you didnt read it.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

It is far past time for Republican leadership to shut down the violent and ignorant rhetoric coming from their ranks.

That's not going to happen.

It's GOP leadership fomenting violent, ignorant rhetoric.

 

[Correll]

They didn’t make a big deal about it being a hate crime when Muslims shoot people because they don’t want you guys attacking Muslims in retaliation.

Blacks won’t retaliate for the ten dead this weekend. Maybe.

SO, you admit that liberals will NOT categorize hate crimes as hate crimes, if they believe they have a good reason.


THanks. I appreciate your honesty.

 

[candycorn]

'How many elections are they going to steal before we kill these people?'

A man at a Turning Point USA rally asks when he can kill Democrats for stealing the election. Charlie Kirk, Trump and others in the GOP own this.

www.azcentral.com

It sort of reminds me of the book by Tom Friedman, The Lexus and the Olive Tree. He pointed out that Clinton fired 75 cruise missiles at OBL's camp. It was the first time in history that a super power (or any power for that matter) used such an amount of ordinance to try to take out one person. It didn't make a lot of headlines (if any)... Someone asking when they get to start killing people should have made a bigger impact you'd think. Just another day in America with the gun nuts.

 

[sealybobo]

SO, you admit that liberals will NOT categorize hate crimes as hate crimes, if they believe they have a good reason.


THanks. I appreciate your honesty.

And this morning on ABC News Robin Roberts made it very clear it was a white shooter who shot black people. She wouldn't have done that if the shooter was black, muslim or hispanic.

 

[gipper]

And this morning on ABC News Robin Roberts made it very clear it was a white shooter who shot black people. She wouldn't have done that if the shooter was black, muslim or hispanic.

No doubt.

Plus old Joe goes to Buffalo but didn’t bother to go to Waukesha WI when a black dude full of hate for whites with a rap sheet fifty pages long, ran over white children in a Christmas parade. Old Joe didn’t go to New York City when a black dude full of hate for whites opened fire on whites in the subway. (notice too how the corporate media dropped those stories within 48 hours)

Some of us notice these things.

 

[sealybobo]

No doubt.

Plus old Joe goes to Buffalo, but didn’t bother to go to Waukesha WI when a black dude full of hate for whites with a rap sheet fifty pages long, ran over white children in a Christmas parade. Old Joe didn’t go to New York City when a black dude full of hate for whites opened fire on whites in the subway. (notice too how the corporate media dropped those stories within 48 hours)

Some of us notice these things.

You got to be looking for it. Subtle.

 

[gipper]

You got to be looking for it. Subtle.

About as subtle as a punch to the face, yet many Americans can’t see it.