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The Right’s Farcical Denial of Systemic Racism

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It's sad what white racists refuse to see. And it's done on purpose.

“Because most whites have not been trained to think with complexity about racism, and because it benefits white dominance not to do so, we have a very limited understanding of it (Kumashiro, 2009; LaDuke, 2009). We are the least likely to see, comprehend, or be invested in validating people of color’s assertions of racism and being honest about their consequences (King, 1991). At the same time, because of white social, economic, and political power within a white dominant culture, whites are the group in the position to legitimize people of color’s assertions of racism.Being in this position engenders a form of racial arrogance, and in this racial arrogance, whites have little compunction about debating the knowledge of people who have thought deeply about race through research, study, peer-reviewed scholarship, deep and on-going critical self-reflection, interracial relationships, and lived experience (Chinnery, 2008). This expertise is often trivialized and countered with simplistic platitudes, such as “people just need to see each other as individuals” or “see each other as humans” or “take personal responsibility.”

White lack of racial humility often leads to declarations of disagreement when in fact the problem is that we do not understand. Whites generally feel free to dismiss informed perspectives rather than have the humility to acknowledge that they are unfamiliar, reflect on them further, seek more information, or sustain a dialogue (DiAngelo & Sensoy, 2009).”


Dr. Robin DiAngelo
USMB is a fine example of everything mentioned above. And while there are members here who practice racism in their daily lives, they deny the existence of systemic racism.

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Lately, right-wingers have been on something of a tear denying the existence of “systemic racism.” Harvard government professor Harvey Mansfield, writing on the conservative Wall Street Journal op-ed page, Andrew McCarthy in National Review, and Heather Mac Donald of the Manhattan Institute, all have argued that systemic racism is nothing but a term designed to lay a guilt trip on white people and also explain away the continuing failure of Black people to take responsibility for their own inadequacies.

To right-wingers, racism only matters when it is conscious and deliberate; racism that is unconscious, implicit, or institutional simply doesn’t count in their worldview. And as individualists, they think we are all masters of our own fate: If people are poor, it is basically their own fault. Therefore, systemic racism is an impossibility.

The number of true racists in society is trivially small, conservatives believe, and all evidence that Black people are economically disadvantaged just shows that they don’t work hard enough or save enough, have too many children out of wedlock, or are too comfortable being on welfare. The playbook here is clear: Always identify some reason for racially disparate life outcomes that lets white people off the hook and lays the responsibility for their circumstances squarely on Black people themselves. It’s a classic case of blaming-the-victim rhetoric.

It is undeniable, however, that Black people are materially worse off than white people in a variety of ways indisputably documented in objective data. A new report on household income from the Census Bureau shows that the median income (the exact middle of the distribution) for Black households was just $45,438 in 2019, versus $72,204 for white households. The poverty rate was 18.8 percent for Blacks but only 7.3 percent for non-Hispanic whites. These gaps have existed for decades.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, African Americans have had lower earnings and higher unemployment for as far back as there is data. One reason: Research shows that employers are less likely to interview job applicants with Black-sounding names than those with white-sounding names. It’s even the case that Black taxi drivers receive lower tips than whites.

Space prohibits a full accounting of all the ways systemic racism permeates American society. A recent effort by Citigroup economists to calculate its economic impact concluded that if the racial gap in the U.S. had been closed 20 years ago, the gross domestic product would have been higher over this period to the tune of $16 trillion. Here’s a partial rundown of Citigroup’s findings:

  • Closing the wage gap would have added $2.7 trillion to Black income, raising consumption and investment throughout the economy.
  • Improving access to housing credit would have raised the number of Black homeowners by 770,000, which would have added $218 billion to GDP.
  • Increasing access to higher education for Black students could have added as much as $113 billion to national income.
  • Leveling the playing field for Black entrepreneurs in terms of lending might have led to an additional $13 trillion in business income, creating 6.1 million jobs per year.
  • Closing all these gaps immediately would raise GDP by $4.8 trillion between now and 2025, adding 0.4 percent to the growth rate per year.
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You are once again confusing personal racism with systemic racism. I believe you do this purposefully because you are intelligent enough to know that an individual who hates Black people is NOT an example of SYSTEMIC RACISM. As I have explained to you numerous times, this country had rampant SYSTEMIC RACISM as recently as the 1960s which I witnessed firsthand living in Montgomery Alabama as a child. But fast forward 60 years and all vestiges of SYSTEMIC RACISM are GONE. What remains are a small percentage of people who are PERSONALLY RACIST against Black people and a small percentage of Police Officers who exhibit Racial bias toward Blacks and minorities.

All of your bloviating and arm waving about SYSTEMIC RACISM is nothing but a fantasy to promote White guilt and victim hood.
Describe the systemic racism you observed in the 60's.
 
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It's sad what white racists refuse to see. And it's done on purpose.

“Because most whites have not been trained to think with complexity about racism, and because it benefits white dominance not to do so, we have a very limited understanding of it (Kumashiro, 2009; LaDuke, 2009). We are the least likely to see, comprehend, or be invested in validating people of color’s assertions of racism and being honest about their consequences (King, 1991). At the same time, because of white social, economic, and political power within a white dominant culture, whites are the group in the position to legitimize people of color’s assertions of racism.Being in this position engenders a form of racial arrogance, and in this racial arrogance, whites have little compunction about debating the knowledge of people who have thought deeply about race through research, study, peer-reviewed scholarship, deep and on-going critical self-reflection, interracial relationships, and lived experience (Chinnery, 2008). This expertise is often trivialized and countered with simplistic platitudes, such as “people just need to see each other as individuals” or “see each other as humans” or “take personal responsibility.”

White lack of racial humility often leads to declarations of disagreement when in fact the problem is that we do not understand. Whites generally feel free to dismiss informed perspectives rather than have the humility to acknowledge that they are unfamiliar, reflect on them further, seek more information, or sustain a dialogue (DiAngelo & Sensoy, 2009).”


Dr. Robin DiAngelo
USMB is a fine example of everything mentioned above. And while there are members here who practice racism in their daily lives, they deny the existence of systemic racism.

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Lately, right-wingers have been on something of a tear denying the existence of “systemic racism.” Harvard government professor Harvey Mansfield, writing on the conservative Wall Street Journal op-ed page, Andrew McCarthy in National Review, and Heather Mac Donald of the Manhattan Institute, all have argued that systemic racism is nothing but a term designed to lay a guilt trip on white people and also explain away the continuing failure of Black people to take responsibility for their own inadequacies.

To right-wingers, racism only matters when it is conscious and deliberate; racism that is unconscious, implicit, or institutional simply doesn’t count in their worldview. And as individualists, they think we are all masters of our own fate: If people are poor, it is basically their own fault. Therefore, systemic racism is an impossibility.

The number of true racists in society is trivially small, conservatives believe, and all evidence that Black people are economically disadvantaged just shows that they don’t work hard enough or save enough, have too many children out of wedlock, or are too comfortable being on welfare. The playbook here is clear: Always identify some reason for racially disparate life outcomes that lets white people off the hook and lays the responsibility for their circumstances squarely on Black people themselves. It’s a classic case of blaming-the-victim rhetoric.

It is undeniable, however, that Black people are materially worse off than white people in a variety of ways indisputably documented in objective data. A new report on household income from the Census Bureau shows that the median income (the exact middle of the distribution) for Black households was just $45,438 in 2019, versus $72,204 for white households. The poverty rate was 18.8 percent for Blacks but only 7.3 percent for non-Hispanic whites. These gaps have existed for decades.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, African Americans have had lower earnings and higher unemployment for as far back as there is data. One reason: Research shows that employers are less likely to interview job applicants with Black-sounding names than those with white-sounding names. It’s even the case that Black taxi drivers receive lower tips than whites.

Space prohibits a full accounting of all the ways systemic racism permeates American society. A recent effort by Citigroup economists to calculate its economic impact concluded that if the racial gap in the U.S. had been closed 20 years ago, the gross domestic product would have been higher over this period to the tune of $16 trillion. Here’s a partial rundown of Citigroup’s findings:

  • Closing the wage gap would have added $2.7 trillion to Black income, raising consumption and investment throughout the economy.
  • Improving access to housing credit would have raised the number of Black homeowners by 770,000, which would have added $218 billion to GDP.
  • Increasing access to higher education for Black students could have added as much as $113 billion to national income.
  • Leveling the playing field for Black entrepreneurs in terms of lending might have led to an additional $13 trillion in business income, creating 6.1 million jobs per year.
  • Closing all these gaps immediately would raise GDP by $4.8 trillion between now and 2025, adding 0.4 percent to the growth rate per year.

Why are all the people "educating" you on racism white women?
 

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Describe the systemic racism you observed in the 60's.
In the 1960s Blacks were denied access to bathrooms, water fountains, restaurants, hotels, schools, employment, housing etc. By the 1970s ALL VESTIGES OF THAT SYSTEMIC RACISM WERE GONE. But the Democratic Party and many Black people pretend that it still exists today.
 

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In the 1960s Blacks were denied access to bathrooms, water fountains, restaurants, hotels, schools, employment, housing etc. By the 1970s ALL VESTIGES OF THAT SYSTEMIC RACISM WERE GONE. But the Democratic Party and many Black people pretend that it still exists today.
Why is America segregated?
 
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In the 1960s Blacks were denied access to bathrooms, water fountains, restaurants, hotels, schools, employment, housing etc. By the 1970s ALL VESTIGES OF THAT SYSTEMIC RACISM WERE GONE. But the Democratic Party and many Black people pretend that it still exists today.
But they weren't. That's the problem. Things did not just stop happening. But the Republican Party and many White people pretend that it all ended.
 

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Why is America segregated?
There is no de jure segregation in America today. There is de facto segregation because many people want to live among people like them. That’s a natural consequence of thousands of years of cultural adaptation. The only way you are going to cure de facto segregation is for the government to determine where every person in the USA will live and then apportion them according to race. In other words an apartment building will have thirteen percent apartments dedicated to blacks, sixty eight percent dedicated to whites et cetera et cetera. I don’t know about you but I will not accept the government telling me where I can live.
 

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Democrats the original racists, the only racists are experts at creating hate to divide the races.

Excellent post, it works, I now hate democrats.
 

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Racism is a lie. The common term human race is not understood? We had one language at one point in time. The world not using, reasonable, rational, god, giving to god, what is God's, will equalize everyone. Classes between people will be no more. People will be able to have the best of whatever. People will be able to maintain whatever. There is somthing way better than what is. Don't throw it away acting like what is seen, is all that there is.
 

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But they weren't. That's the problem. Things did not just stop happening. But the Republican Party and many White people pretend that it all ended.
Another possibility is you are pretending that all the things I listed are still present, but they are not.
 

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How about you address my answers to your last question before you ask another one.
I did, many of those racist practices still exist today.
 

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