The Right To Destroy Jewish History

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At the far edges of the Jewish world, Bukharan Jews (also sometimes referred to as Bukharian or Bokharan Jews) have made their homes in Central Asia’s vibrant cities — now located in Uzbekistan and Tajikistan — for well over a millenia. One of the world’s oldest diaspora groups, they came to resemble the Muslim Tajiks and Uzbeks amongst whom they lived, all the while maintaining connections to the wider Jewish world.

Who Are the Bukharan Jews? | My Jewish Learning

At the far edges of the Jewish world, Bukharan Jews (also sometimes referred to as Bukharian or Bokharan Jews) have ...

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[Sixties Fan]

No Jews Here: AP’s and Reuters’ Glaring Omission​

The Associated Press piece, written by Tsafrir Abayov, does not include the words ‘Jew,’ ‘Jewish’ or ‘Judaism.’ And the terms ‘Israel’ and ‘Israeli’ are only mentioned in reference to the modern country where the winery was dug up. Reuters’ report, authored by Ari Rabinovitch (editing by Jeffrey Heller and Ed Osmond) basically follows the same editorial line, albeit the article’s headline makes mention of the Holy Land.

AFP’s Ancient ‘Jewish Settlement’​

The AFP item goes one step further as it uses the contemporary, politically loaded term ‘settlement’ to describe an ancient Jewish community: “The facility in Yavne, south of Tel Aviv was a Jewish settlement during biblical times and a key city after the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70.”

AFP’s reporting begs the question: key city to whom?

(full article online)

Media Erase Jewish Connection to Newly Uncovered Ancient Winery in Israel | United with Israel

Omitting any reference to the Jewish people’s connection to Yavne accords with the apparent overriding policy to simply ignore inconvenient facts that reaffirm the Jewish people’s ancient ties to Israel.

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[danielpalos]

Are Jews, Semites? If yes; y'all have nothing to worry about.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The socialist, anti-Israel "Jewish Currents" site published a comic by JB Brager that positions itself as a sober argument against Jewish indigeneity to Israel.

Like all good propaganda, it hand-picks the pro-Zionist arguments it wants to debunk, twists them, and then gives its own answers from within its own false framing. People who agree with the anti-Israel side think they have read a brilliant work that demolishes the Zionist arguments taken one by one. But in reality it ignores the real arguments and engages in a lot of misdirection and handwaving to make it look like it is objective.
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There are no references or footnotes to the idea that DNA research is useless past seven generations. Brager appears to be mixing up the popular, commercial DNA tests like 23AndMe and the more rigorous testing done by scientists.

This is the sort of half-truth that can be seen throughout the comic.

The comic begs for fisking, but that is not how to debunk it.

The fact that Brager quotes Herzl as referring to "colonization" but not Herzl when he says "we aspire to our ancient land" shows that they pick and choose the arguments they want and discard the rest.

The fact that they base so much of their argument on the idea that Jews returning to Zion is "settler colonialism" without mentioning the many arguments against it show that they are not intellectually honest.

The fact that they conclude their argument with this photo as proof of Zionist racism while deliberately erasing the cover of the book to show that the Arab woman had snatched the angry man's Psalms seconds before proves Brager's mendacity.





But in the end there are much more obvious proofs that Brager's theses are wrong to begin with.

The idea that Jews are a people and a nation is not a new Zionist idea. On the contrary - the idea that Jews are only a religion and not more is a brand new anti-Zionist idea, created specifically to disconnect Jews from their ancient homeland. The words "Hebrew nation" and "Jewish nation" in describing contemporary Jews can be seen hundreds of times in pre-Zionist literature - both from Jews and non-Jews.

(full article online)

That "Jewish Currents" comic - anti-Israel propaganda filled with false history and bigotry

Blogging about Israel and the Arab world since, oh, forever.

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[RoccoR]

RE: The Right To Destroy Jewish History
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Meanings: Concise Oxford American Dictionary Copyright © 2006 by Oxford University Press, Inc.

Arab /'arab/ n. 1 a member of a Semitic people, originally from the Arabian peninsula and neighboring territories, inhabiting much of the Middle East and North Africa.​

Arabic /'arabik/ n. the Semitic language of the Arabs, spoken by some 150 million people throughout the Middle East and North Africa.​

Hebrew /'hebrbo/ n. 2 the Semitic language of this people, in its ancient or modern form.​

ady. 1 of the Hebrews or the Jews. 2 of or in Hebrew.​

Semitic /se'mitik/ ady. 1 relating to or denoting a family of languages that includes Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic and certain ancient languages such as Phoenician and Akkadian, constituting the main subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic family.​

2 of or relating to the peoples who speak these languages, esp. Hebrew and Arabic.​

Are Jews, Semites? If yes; y'all have nothing to worry about.

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I suppose that by most accepted definitions, the answer would be yes.

Most Respectfully,
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[Sixties Fan]

The pro-Palestinian propaganda, factual errors and the blurring of fact with mere claims in a recent Belfast Telegraph article would make Guardian editors cringe. The deceit in the piece (“How Palestine changed my life: NI teacher Charlotte Carson who stood in front of Israeli tanks to run for Assembly”, Oct. 13) begins in the first few sentences:

Belfast woman who risked her life acting as a human shield to prevent Israeli soldiers shooting civilians and demolishing Palestinian homes is to run as an SDLP candidate in the Assembly election. Charlotte Carson stood in front of bulldozers and accompanied women and children past army checkpoints in Gaza and the West Bank
Her friend Rachel Corrie, an American student, was crushed to death by an Israeli Defence Force armoured bulldozer in 2003.

As is evident further into the article, it’s merely the (completely unsubstantiated) claim by Charlotte Carson that, while volunteering with a radical anti-Israel group during the height of the 2nd Intifada, she was preventing Israeli soldiers from “shooting civilians”. The fact that the Belfast Telegraph journalist, Suzanne Breene, failed to make this distinction is a violation of the accuracy clause’s demand that the press must “distinguish clearly between comment, conjecture and fact”.

The journalist also fails to note that an Israeli court ruled, in response to a lawsuit by Rachel Corrie’s parents, the her tragic death was an accident, not the result of criminal behavior by the driver of the bulldozer.

It continues:

After two years as a volunteer in the International Solidarity Movement (ISM), which was blacklisted by the Israeli authorities, Ms Carson was arrested and deported from the occupied Palestinian territories.

The journalist makes no effort to explain that ISM was “blacklisted” by Israel because it is openly pro-terrorism, and has directly supported terrorist organisations by, among other activities, serving as human shields for terrorist operatives, and even sheltering Palestinian Islamic Jihad operatives involved in suicide bombing attacks.

Also unmentioned by the article is the reason why Carson was arrested and deported: she reportedly disrupted IDF soldiers operating against Palestinians who threw Molotov cocktails at them, preventing the terrorists’ detention. According to the
soldiers, she also exposed a previous IDF ambush by shining a flashlight on them, jeopardizing the soldiers’ lives.

(full article online)

Belfast Telegraph promotes ISM lies about IDF soldiers "shooting children"

The pro-Palestinian propaganda, factual errors and the blurring of fact with mere claims in a recent Belfast Telegraph article would make Guardian editors cring

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[Sixties Fan]

The new Academy Museum of Motion Pictures in Los Angeles neglects Hollywood’s Jewish founders

The new Academy Museum of Motion Pictures in Los Angeles neglects Hollywood's Jewish founders

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[Sixties Fan]

Two days ago, activist JB Brager of the deceptively-named ‘Jewish Voice for Peace’ published an illustrated analysis of Zionism as an indigenous rights cause in Jewish Currents.

Their picture book (a fitting medium, I suppose) is not so much an analysis as it is a puerile, recalcitrant temper tantrum. If nothing else, it is as stark an example of Jewish self-hatred as anything I could imagine from a purported Jewish outlet.

For the sake of digestibility, I’ll address everything in a piecemeal fashion.

On the meaning of indigenous –

From the very first panel, we see the authors attempting to spin Jewish discourse on indigeneity into a blood and soil argument — a calculated bid at misrepresenting Zionism as the Jewish version of German Volkisch nationalism. Attempting to place us on par with our worst abusers, the Nazis, appears to be a common theme for antisemites.

To wit, the authors deliberately pervert the meaning of indigeneity, arguing that (at least in our case) it is about nothing more than blood.

While common ancestry with the land’s original inhabitants is certainly part of the criteria, it is only one part. Indigeneity is first and foremost about ethnogenesis, or ‘where a people became a people’.

Jews do not, and never have, claimed indigeneity to Israel solely on the basis of blood. We claim it because we originated as an ethnic group on that land. Virtually everything about us, from our language and alphabet to our holidays and laws and core culture, is specific to the land of Israel/Palestine.

It is true that ethnic Jews — who comprise roughly 99% of global Jewry — trace the bulk of their genetic ancestry to the Levant (specifically to Bronze Age Canaanites, from whom the Jews and Samaritans emerged as subsets), but this alone does not qualify a population for indigenous status. Ethnogenesis, core culture, national language, collective spiritual ties, etc are equally important, if not more so. Indigenous status is a package deal.

And as the authors themselves limply admit, Jews do meet all of the established criteria for indigenous status in Israel.

(full article online)

On The Theatrics Of Inversion: How Indigenous People Became ‘Settlers’

From the blog of Dani Ishai Behan at The Times of Israel

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From MEMRI, a Saudi cartoon that shows the Quranic story of Jews turning into apes and pigs (without the pig part):

On October 9, 2021, an animated video for children depicting a Quranic story about Jews being transformed into apes was uploaded to the Ibtikar Media channel on YouTube. The narrator told the story about a group of Jews in a seaside village who violated Allah's commandment to keep the Sabbath by casting fishing nets on Friday and gathering fish on Sunday. The narrator said that the group of Jews who did this were punished by being transformed into apes. Ibtikar Media is a Saudi YouTube channel.

Narrator: "There used to be a Jewish village on the seashore. One of Allah's laws that He laid down for them was that He forbade them from fishing on the Sabbath, in order to devote themselves to worship. Allah tested them by sending a lot of fish only on the Sabbath. So they employed a trick. They would cast their nets on Friday, the fish would get trapped in the nets on Saturday, and they would collect them on Sunday.

"The [Jewish villagers] were divided into three groups. One group defied Allah's commandment. They would fish [on the Sabbath] by employing trickery and deception. Another group abided by Allah's commandment, and never defied Him. They would warn the people about Allah's wrath and His punishment, and would forbid them from doing what they were doing. The third group would oppose the people who forbade these acts.


"When the sinners did not heed the words of advice, Allah's punishment came upon them at night. The group that commanded good were spared the punishment. The fate of the third group was not mentioned. The punishment of the sinners was that they were transformed into apes. It is said that the people who forbade evil wondered why the sinners did not appear, as was their habit. So they went to [the sinners, and saw that they had been transformed into apes. Each ape recognized his own family, but people did not recognize their relatives who had been transformed into apes. The people [from the first group] asked: 'Did we not warn you about Allah's wrath?' A while later, the sinners who had been transformed into apes died, leaving no descendants."

There's a punchline to this famous story that the Muslims don't know:

According to Jewish law, the Jews who set the nets did nothing wrong.

Jewish law says that one may not set a trap on the Sabbath but one may set up a trap beforehand.

Mohammed knew a lot of Jewish stories and legends that he put into the Quran. but he wasn't very well versed in Jewish law.

(full article online)

Saudi cartoon shows Quranic story of how Jews were transformed into monkeys

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What the Guardian doesn’t say in the article (“As important as the Taj Mahal? The Palestinian refugee camp seeking Unesco world heritage status”, Oct. 14) is that DAAR supports the unlimited ‘right of return’ for millions of the descendants of the original Palestinian refugees.

After providing more information on the exhibit, Wainwright attempts to provide background on the ‘refugee camp’:

Established in 1949 to house more than 3,000 Palestinians expelled from their villages by Jewish militias in the Arab-Israeli war, Dheisheh has since swelled to accommodate 15,000 people. It began as a tent encampment, laid out on a military grid across an undulating stretch of land leased to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) by the Jordanian government (which still technically owns the land).

First, as even Palestinian officials have acknowledged, Jews still “technically own the land”, as Dheisheh was built on JNF land lost during the 1948 War. Further, it’s not accurate that the 3,000 original inhabitants of the camp had all been “expelled”, as the Guardian claims. For instance, many of the original inhabitants came from the village of Beit Jibrin, 20 km northwest of Hebron. As even anti-Israel sources acknowledge, they fled (but weren’t expelled) during fighting between the Haganah and Egyptian forces.

Wainwright continues:

Dheisheh is the product of being forced to live in perpetual limbo, with the eternal hope of one day leaving, creating what Petti and Hilal call a state of “permanent temporariness”. The neighbourhoods are still loosely arranged according to the villages where the refugees came from, and the families cling to the dream of returning home to their ancestral lands…
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“There is a widespread feeling among Palestinian refugees that if you consider the camp your home, you will jeopardise the right of return,” says [a resident]

This is a good illustration of the lies and egregious double standards feed the entire ‘refugee’ narrative. Palestinians, unlike Jewish refugees from Arab lands, and, in fact, every other refugee group in the world, are granted refugee status in perpetuity to each subsequent generation, regardless of whether they already enjoy full citizenship in another country, as millions do.

Also, Dheisheh is located within Bethlehem, a city (within Area A of the West Bank) under complete control of the Palestinian Authority. There’s no reason, other than to cynically perpetuate the ‘refugee’ issue, why PA officials couldn’t expel UNRWA, incorporate the camp into Bethlehem’s municipal boundaries and govern the residents exactly as they do the rest of the city.

(full article online)

The Guardian, Dheisheh and the eternal 'refugee'

An article in the Guardian by Oliver Wainwright, the outlet's architecture critic, reports on a new exhibition at the Mosaic Rooms in London asserting that Dhe

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[surada]

No Jews Here: AP’s and Reuters’ Glaring Omission​

The Associated Press piece, written by Tsafrir Abayov, does not include the words ‘Jew,’ ‘Jewish’ or ‘Judaism.’ And the terms ‘Israel’ and ‘Israeli’ are only mentioned in reference to the modern country where the winery was dug up. Reuters’ report, authored by Ari Rabinovitch (editing by Jeffrey Heller and Ed Osmond) basically follows the same editorial line, albeit the article’s headline makes mention of the Holy Land.

AFP’s Ancient ‘Jewish Settlement’​

The AFP item goes one step further as it uses the contemporary, politically loaded term ‘settlement’ to describe an ancient Jewish community: “The facility in Yavne, south of Tel Aviv was a Jewish settlement during biblical times and a key city after the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70.”

AFP’s reporting begs the question: key city to whom?

(full article online)

Media Erase Jewish Connection to Newly Uncovered Ancient Winery in Israel | United with Israel

Omitting any reference to the Jewish people’s connection to Yavne accords with the apparent overriding policy to simply ignore inconvenient facts that reaffirm the Jewish people’s ancient ties to Israel.

unitedwithisrael.org

It was also a Roman city.

Yavne: A Jewish Case for Equality in Israel-Palestine

The two-state solution is dead. It’s time for liberal Zionists to abandon Jewish–Palestinian separation and embrace equality.

jewishcurrents.org

But questioning Israel’s existence as a Jewish state is a different order of offense—akin to spitting in the face of people I love and betraying institutions that give my life meaning and joy. Besides, Jewish statehood has long been precious to me, too. So I’ve respected certain red lines.

Unfortunately, reality has not. With each passing year, it has become clearer that Jewish statehood includes permanent Israeli control of the West Bank. With each new election, irrespective of which parties enter the government, Israel has continued subsidizing Jewish settlement in a territory in which Palestinians lack citizenship, due process, free movement, and the right to vote for the government that dominates their lives.

Israel has built highways for those Jewish settlers so they can travel easily across the Green Line—which rarely appears on Israeli maps—while their Palestinian neighbors languish at checkpoints. The West Bank is home to one of Israel’s most powerful politicians, two of its supreme court justices, and its newest medical school.

 

[Sixties Fan]

It was also a Roman city.

Yavne: A Jewish Case for Equality in Israel-Palestine

The two-state solution is dead. It’s time for liberal Zionists to abandon Jewish–Palestinian separation and embrace equality.

jewishcurrents.org

But questioning Israel’s existence as a Jewish state is a different order of offense—akin to spitting in the face of people I love and betraying institutions that give my life meaning and joy. Besides, Jewish statehood has long been precious to me, too. So I’ve respected certain red lines.

Unfortunately, reality has not. With each passing year, it has become clearer that Jewish statehood includes permanent Israeli control of the West Bank. With each new election, irrespective of which parties enter the government, Israel has continued subsidizing Jewish settlement in a territory in which Palestinians lack citizenship, due process, free movement, and the right to vote for the government that dominates their lives.

Israel has built highways for those Jewish settlers so they can travel easily across the Green Line—which rarely appears on Israeli maps—while their Palestinian neighbors languish at checkpoints. The West Bank is home to one of Israel’s most powerful politicians, two of its supreme court justices, and its newest medical school.

When looking to attack Israel and Jews, please look for people who are not biased and 100% against Israel's existence, as Mr. Beinart is. It is not because he is Jewish that his anti Israel's existence activism is right.
It is not. He has the wrong information, as do you.
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With all his soothing words about equality and blissful coexistence, Peter Beinart is calling for the elimination of the Jewish state itself. His contortions to argue that Zionism does not require an independent Jewish state are transparently false and a tactic to rationalize the dismantling of a sovereign Israel.

The fact that his notion of Palestinians and Israelis living in peace in one state is belied by the history of the Middle East is almost beside the point. Where else on earth would the idea of an independent sovereign state disappearing from the map be acceptable except in the case of Israel?

Alone among states in the United Nations, Israel’s existence is put in question without consequences, sometimes in blatant and obviously hostile ways, such as by Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas, sometimes by those like Mr. Beinart who argue in softer terms, framing their position in terms of human rights.

There’s not much difference in the end. Both violate every norm regarding sovereignty of a nation. In the final analysis, such calls are themselves anti-Semitic, or at the very least, as in the case of Mr. Beinart, play into the hands of the anti-Semites.

It is time to focus on getting the parties back to negotiations. Israel needs to make clear it is open to a two-state solution that would bring security, justice and dignity to Israelis and Palestinians. And the Palestinians must move from their longstanding rejectionism that has hurt them so badly and has brought us to this day.

Dissolve the Jewish State? Peter Beinart is Wrong

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[Sixties Fan]

It was also a Roman city.

Yavne: A Jewish Case for Equality in Israel-Palestine

The two-state solution is dead. It’s time for liberal Zionists to abandon Jewish–Palestinian separation and embrace equality.

jewishcurrents.org

But questioning Israel’s existence as a Jewish state is a different order of offense—akin to spitting in the face of people I love and betraying institutions that give my life meaning and joy. Besides, Jewish statehood has long been precious to me, too. So I’ve respected certain red lines.

Unfortunately, reality has not. With each passing year, it has become clearer that Jewish statehood includes permanent Israeli control of the West Bank. With each new election, irrespective of which parties enter the government, Israel has continued subsidizing Jewish settlement in a territory in which Palestinians lack citizenship, due process, free movement, and the right to vote for the government that dominates their lives.

Israel has built highways for those Jewish settlers so they can travel easily across the Green Line—which rarely appears on Israeli maps—while their Palestinian neighbors languish at checkpoints. The West Bank is home to one of Israel’s most powerful politicians, two of its supreme court justices, and its newest medical school.

Was the city built by the Romans? I would guess not, for you to infer that it was a "Roman City".

 

[danielpalos]

...is this just a Semitic thing?