The Right To Destroy Jewish History

[teddyearp]

abi had a thread that attempts to disprove much of the archeological evidence; it got moved to the religion section.

Either way you slice it or dice it, the arch of Titus in Rome, Italy speaks volumes.

 

[abi]

abi had a thread that attempts to disprove much of the archeological evidence; it got moved to the religion section.

It was a factual documentary from the BBC.

Carry on.

 

[teddyearp]

Oh abi, you're so cool. The way you do not include the whole post in your quote(s) and subsequent replies speaks volumes about you.

Just like the rest, cherry pick and cut and paste.

Comical.



No really.

 

[abi]

I am sorry that facts anger you, but that is not our problem, snowflake.

 

[teddyearp]

I am sorry that facts anger you, but that is not our problem, snowflake.

Ah yes. Now the real truth comes out. "Our problem". Many on Team P (though not so much lately, but abi has used it) call everyone on 'Team I', hasbara.

It is obvious that there is another unnamed propaganda 'army'. I have called it the electronic intifada brigade. Not directly associated with the webpage, but seriously more decadent, evil, and full of as many lies and/or mostly cherry picked half truths.

How much are they paying you abi? You seem to post here almost 24/7.

 

[teddyearp]

Oh yeah, I noticed you failed again to address the fact of the arch of Titus.

How convenient for you.

Bitch.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I was not going to start a new thread on the forums, but this one seems to be a must.

I know that there are many well meaning people on these threads who want to see an end to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, like Coyote and many others. And then, there are those who are very ill meaning and do nothing but bash Israel and Jews over everything.

I believe that any and all, need to be reminded that this is Jewish land. It has been Jewish land for over 3000 years, and never contested by any one of its invaders and conquerors until the "dreadful day" when the Jews assumed that they could legally regain sovereignty over it and the Balfour Declaration happened and the Mandate for Palestine was to give the Jews their ancient homeland back.

We all know what has happened since 1920.

But what many do not know and do not seem to be aware of is what the people who have been calling themselves Palestinians since 1964 have been doing to ancient places they should have been claiming as their own, for after all, do they not say that they have been on the land as the Ancient Palestinians for the past 5000, no - 6000, no - 10000 years?

Aren't these ancient places and artifacts in Jerusalem and in Judea and Samaria part of the Palestinian History? Then why are they destroying any and all of it?

This is what has been going on for decades. Why are the "Palestinians" destroying their alleged history?

Palestinians destroying ancient Herodian and Hashmonean antiquities - literally bulldozing Jewish history ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

We've discussed the The Temple Mount Sifting Project before:
The Temple Mount Sifting Project (formerly known as the Temple Mount Salvage Operation) is an Israeli archaeological project begun in 2005 dedicated to recovering archaeological artifacts from 400 truckloads of topsoil removed from the Temple Mount by the Waqf during the construction of the underground el-Marwani Mosque from 1996 to 1999.[1] The project is under the academic auspices of Bar Ilan University and until 2017 was funded by the Ir David Foundation and Israel Exploration Society.The destruction of so many tons of property from the Temple Mount was the biggest archaeological crime in history.

The project webpage is now warning of other large-scale destruction of Jewish history by Palestinians, ISIS-style.
----
In full view of people passing on the highway 90, Palestinians are using bulldozers and other heavy equipment to destroy Second Temple-era Jewish settlements in order to build a new village.

This is all happening in Area B, under Palestinian administrative control.

Moreover, it looks like Palestinian antiquities thieves are working in the area at night to steal whatever ancient artifacts they can find to sell on the market.

The article notes that similar destruction has recently begun in the area of the Hasmonean palaces in Jericho.
---------------------------
---------------------------------------------------

Give Area C and the former Jewish Quarter and the Temple Mount to the invading Arabs who are now calling themselves the ancient inhabitants of the land, who should be protecting their ancient history and making tourism out of it?

Which one of you would dare do so?

Does the UN have any say on the Arabs destroying other people's ancient places?
Where has UNESCO been all of this time? What is their position about the endless destruction of Jewish History? Have they not complained about ISIS destroying antiquity?

Oh, wait......they have been giving Palestinian Status to Jewish places like the Cave of the Patriarchs and Rachel's Tomb, and many other places.

I guess if the UN is in on it, then there is no hope for the Jewish people to ever get their ancient lands back, much less be allowed to freely visit those places, which is true when it comes to the Cave and the Tombs, etc, where Jews can only visit if they have a military escort.

Questions:

How can peace be achieved with the PA, the alleged partner for Peace, when it is the PA itself which allows such destruction to happen?

How can peace be achieved when destroying Israel is still in the Hamas and PLO, and Fatah charters and is taught on a daily basis to all Arabs who live in Gaza and areas A and B, and C and even in Israel?

What in the world is going to be done about the endless destruction and the want to destroy all which is Jewish on the Land of Israel, which does include all of Judea and Samaria which is the land of the Jewish People.
(I will not eve speculate what may already have been done to Jewish history in Jordan and Gaza )

DO the Arabs have the right to destroy any and all Jewish History they find and never have to answer to the rest of the world, much less to the Jewish People?

So your basic argument is "It's all Jewish because I say it's Jewish".

Fine, then if Israel is Jewish, the the US is Native America and the whites and blacks and Asians can get the fuck out of there and move back to wherever it is they're from. Then where's Israel? It's fucked.

I do thank you for your involvement in this thread.

Thank you for saying absolutely nothing of value.

What is NOT Jewish Heritage? Evidence.

What is "Palestinian" Heritage? Evidence.

What Arab/Muslim/Palestinian Heritage has Israel been destroying in Israel, Judea and Samaria?

If you choose to return with an answer, I do hope this time it will be with SOMETHING, rather than the NOTHING you chose in your last post.

Am Israel Chai.

Nothing of value huh? Value being that I should just support your case or some bullshit like that?

Yes, the Muslims have been trying to destroy the Jews, and the Jews have been trying to destroy the Muslims. It takes two to Tango.

If Israel is only Jewish, then the US is only Native American, and the UK is only Celtic.

You've decided to make barriers in time where anything that happens after a certain date stops being valid. Muslims who made up the majority of Palestine from the 12th Century AD are all of a sudden not a part of the history of the region. Er... what? That's been 800 years of majority status and you're acting like it never happened.

And why? Why is this your view? Because you have an agenda.

Demographic history of Palestine (region) - Wikipedia

Jews haven't been a majority there since the 5th Century AD. Oh, wow.

Your nonsense about Jews trying to destroy Muslims is taken.

You are way off topic with the rest of your rant.

Nothing real to contribute to this thread?

Thanks for sharing.

Nonsense? How on Earth is this nonsense?

Israel wants Israel to be a Jewish state, does it not? Israel wants Israel to be larger than it is right now, does it not?
Israel cannot achieve its goals without have perpetual war with Muslims. The right wing in Israel is doing quite well recently with tactics of provoking Hamas and others, so that it has an excuse to fight to back.

Way off topic huh? If I was off topic, then your OP was way off topic too, I merely replied to what you wrote.

but, it seems that anyone who attacks your position is going to get a "Nothing real to contribute to this thread?"

Oh, wow, another person on this forum who's more interested in playing games than in actually discussing things. No doubt you think you understand my position perfectly and will soon be attacking things I've never spoken about with you.....

 

[ForeverYoung436]

I was not going to start a new thread on the forums, but this one seems to be a must.

I know that there are many well meaning people on these threads who want to see an end to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, like Coyote and many others. And then, there are those who are very ill meaning and do nothing but bash Israel and Jews over everything.

I believe that any and all, need to be reminded that this is Jewish land. It has been Jewish land for over 3000 years, and never contested by any one of its invaders and conquerors until the "dreadful day" when the Jews assumed that they could legally regain sovereignty over it and the Balfour Declaration happened and the Mandate for Palestine was to give the Jews their ancient homeland back.

We all know what has happened since 1920.

But what many do not know and do not seem to be aware of is what the people who have been calling themselves Palestinians since 1964 have been doing to ancient places they should have been claiming as their own, for after all, do they not say that they have been on the land as the Ancient Palestinians for the past 5000, no - 6000, no - 10000 years?

Aren't these ancient places and artifacts in Jerusalem and in Judea and Samaria part of the Palestinian History? Then why are they destroying any and all of it?

This is what has been going on for decades. Why are the "Palestinians" destroying their alleged history?

Palestinians destroying ancient Herodian and Hashmonean antiquities - literally bulldozing Jewish history ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

We've discussed the The Temple Mount Sifting Project before:
The Temple Mount Sifting Project (formerly known as the Temple Mount Salvage Operation) is an Israeli archaeological project begun in 2005 dedicated to recovering archaeological artifacts from 400 truckloads of topsoil removed from the Temple Mount by the Waqf during the construction of the underground el-Marwani Mosque from 1996 to 1999.[1] The project is under the academic auspices of Bar Ilan University and until 2017 was funded by the Ir David Foundation and Israel Exploration Society.The destruction of so many tons of property from the Temple Mount was the biggest archaeological crime in history.

The project webpage is now warning of other large-scale destruction of Jewish history by Palestinians, ISIS-style.
----
In full view of people passing on the highway 90, Palestinians are using bulldozers and other heavy equipment to destroy Second Temple-era Jewish settlements in order to build a new village.

This is all happening in Area B, under Palestinian administrative control.

Moreover, it looks like Palestinian antiquities thieves are working in the area at night to steal whatever ancient artifacts they can find to sell on the market.

The article notes that similar destruction has recently begun in the area of the Hasmonean palaces in Jericho.
---------------------------
---------------------------------------------------

Give Area C and the former Jewish Quarter and the Temple Mount to the invading Arabs who are now calling themselves the ancient inhabitants of the land, who should be protecting their ancient history and making tourism out of it?

Which one of you would dare do so?

Does the UN have any say on the Arabs destroying other people's ancient places?
Where has UNESCO been all of this time? What is their position about the endless destruction of Jewish History? Have they not complained about ISIS destroying antiquity?

Oh, wait......they have been giving Palestinian Status to Jewish places like the Cave of the Patriarchs and Rachel's Tomb, and many other places.

I guess if the UN is in on it, then there is no hope for the Jewish people to ever get their ancient lands back, much less be allowed to freely visit those places, which is true when it comes to the Cave and the Tombs, etc, where Jews can only visit if they have a military escort.

Questions:

How can peace be achieved with the PA, the alleged partner for Peace, when it is the PA itself which allows such destruction to happen?

How can peace be achieved when destroying Israel is still in the Hamas and PLO, and Fatah charters and is taught on a daily basis to all Arabs who live in Gaza and areas A and B, and C and even in Israel?

What in the world is going to be done about the endless destruction and the want to destroy all which is Jewish on the Land of Israel, which does include all of Judea and Samaria which is the land of the Jewish People.
(I will not eve speculate what may already have been done to Jewish history in Jordan and Gaza )

DO the Arabs have the right to destroy any and all Jewish History they find and never have to answer to the rest of the world, much less to the Jewish People?

So your basic argument is "It's all Jewish because I say it's Jewish".

Fine, then if Israel is Jewish, the the US is Native America and the whites and blacks and Asians can get the fuck out of there and move back to wherever it is they're from. Then where's Israel? It's fucked.

I do thank you for your involvement in this thread.

Thank you for saying absolutely nothing of value.

What is NOT Jewish Heritage? Evidence.

What is "Palestinian" Heritage? Evidence.

What Arab/Muslim/Palestinian Heritage has Israel been destroying in Israel, Judea and Samaria?

If you choose to return with an answer, I do hope this time it will be with SOMETHING, rather than the NOTHING you chose in your last post.

Am Israel Chai.

Nothing of value huh? Value being that I should just support your case or some bullshit like that?

Yes, the Muslims have been trying to destroy the Jews, and the Jews have been trying to destroy the Muslims. It takes two to Tango.

If Israel is only Jewish, then the US is only Native American, and the UK is only Celtic.

You've decided to make barriers in time where anything that happens after a certain date stops being valid. Muslims who made up the majority of Palestine from the 12th Century AD are all of a sudden not a part of the history of the region. Er... what? That's been 800 years of majority status and you're acting like it never happened.

And why? Why is this your view? Because you have an agenda.

Demographic history of Palestine (region) - Wikipedia

Jews haven't been a majority there since the 5th Century AD. Oh, wow.

Your nonsense about Jews trying to destroy Muslims is taken.

You are way off topic with the rest of your rant.

Nothing real to contribute to this thread?

Thanks for sharing.

Nonsense? How on Earth is this nonsense?

Israel wants Israel to be a Jewish state, does it not? Israel wants Israel to be larger than it is right now, does it not?
Israel cannot achieve its goals without have perpetual war with Muslims. The right wing in Israel is doing quite well recently with tactics of provoking Hamas and others, so that it has an excuse to fight to back.

Way off topic huh? If I was off topic, then your OP was way off topic too, I merely replied to what you wrote.

but, it seems that anyone who attacks your position is going to get a "Nothing real to contribute to this thread?"

Oh, wow, another person on this forum who's more interested in playing games than in actually discussing things. No doubt you think you understand my position perfectly and will soon be attacking things I've never spoken about with you.....

This thread is about Palestinians destroying places and relics of Jewish value and history in Israel. You have contributed nothing to that specific topic. If you want to talk about Greater Israel (which, btw, is nothing more than a speck on the globe), then start another thread.

 

[IsaacNewton]

If you stand back you see what all these people are fighting over.

Who gets to claim rocks and dirt. Pretty much what humans have fought over since we evolved 300,000 years ago. The only difference now is each group claims their 'god' gave them exclusive rights to own the rocks and dirt.

 

[frigidweirdo]

So your basic argument is "It's all Jewish because I say it's Jewish".

Fine, then if Israel is Jewish, the the US is Native America and the whites and blacks and Asians can get the fuck out of there and move back to wherever it is they're from. Then where's Israel? It's fucked.

I do thank you for your involvement in this thread.

Thank you for saying absolutely nothing of value.

What is NOT Jewish Heritage? Evidence.

What is "Palestinian" Heritage? Evidence.

What Arab/Muslim/Palestinian Heritage has Israel been destroying in Israel, Judea and Samaria?

If you choose to return with an answer, I do hope this time it will be with SOMETHING, rather than the NOTHING you chose in your last post.

Am Israel Chai.

Nothing of value huh? Value being that I should just support your case or some bullshit like that?

Yes, the Muslims have been trying to destroy the Jews, and the Jews have been trying to destroy the Muslims. It takes two to Tango.

If Israel is only Jewish, then the US is only Native American, and the UK is only Celtic.

You've decided to make barriers in time where anything that happens after a certain date stops being valid. Muslims who made up the majority of Palestine from the 12th Century AD are all of a sudden not a part of the history of the region. Er... what? That's been 800 years of majority status and you're acting like it never happened.

And why? Why is this your view? Because you have an agenda.

Demographic history of Palestine (region) - Wikipedia

Jews haven't been a majority there since the 5th Century AD. Oh, wow.

Your nonsense about Jews trying to destroy Muslims is taken.

You are way off topic with the rest of your rant.

Nothing real to contribute to this thread?

Thanks for sharing.

Nonsense? How on Earth is this nonsense?

Israel wants Israel to be a Jewish state, does it not? Israel wants Israel to be larger than it is right now, does it not?
Israel cannot achieve its goals without have perpetual war with Muslims. The right wing in Israel is doing quite well recently with tactics of provoking Hamas and others, so that it has an excuse to fight to back.

Way off topic huh? If I was off topic, then your OP was way off topic too, I merely replied to what you wrote.

but, it seems that anyone who attacks your position is going to get a "Nothing real to contribute to this thread?"

Oh, wow, another person on this forum who's more interested in playing games than in actually discussing things. No doubt you think you understand my position perfectly and will soon be attacking things I've never spoken about with you.....

This thread is about Palestinians destroying places and relics of Jewish value and history in Israel. You have contributed nothing to that specific topic. If you want to talk about Greater Israel (which, btw, is nothing more than a speck on the globe), then start another thread.

So, that'd be why the OP wrote

"But what many do not know and do not seem to be aware of is what the people who have been calling themselves Palestinians since 1964 have been doing to ancient places they should have been claiming as their own, for after all, do they not say that they have been on the land as the Ancient Palestinians for the past 5000, no - 6000, no - 10000 years?"

"

Oh, wait......they have been giving Palestinian Status to Jewish places like the Cave of the Patriarchs and Rachel's Tomb, and many other places."

Yeah, I see what the OP is doing. Saying something like "why is your wife such a slut?" and you say "I don't have a wife" and he says "stay on topic, this is about your wife being a slut, not about you not having a wife".

 

[admonit]

I was not going to start a new thread on the forums, but this one seems to be a must.

I know that there are many well meaning people on these threads who want to see an end to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, like Coyote and many others. And then, there are those who are very ill meaning and do nothing but bash Israel and Jews over everything.

I believe that any and all, need to be reminded that this is Jewish land. It has been Jewish land for over 3000 years, and never contested by any one of its invaders and conquerors until the "dreadful day" when the Jews assumed that they could legally regain sovereignty over it and the Balfour Declaration happened and the Mandate for Palestine was to give the Jews their ancient homeland back.

We all know what has happened since 1920.

But what many do not know and do not seem to be aware of is what the people who have been calling themselves Palestinians since 1964 have been doing to ancient places they should have been claiming as their own, for after all, do they not say that they have been on the land as the Ancient Palestinians for the past 5000, no - 6000, no - 10000 years?

Aren't these ancient places and artifacts in Jerusalem and in Judea and Samaria part of the Palestinian History? Then why are they destroying any and all of it?

This is what has been going on for decades. Why are the "Palestinians" destroying their alleged history?

Palestinians destroying ancient Herodian and Hashmonean antiquities - literally bulldozing Jewish history ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

We've discussed the The Temple Mount Sifting Project before:
The Temple Mount Sifting Project (formerly known as the Temple Mount Salvage Operation) is an Israeli archaeological project begun in 2005 dedicated to recovering archaeological artifacts from 400 truckloads of topsoil removed from the Temple Mount by the Waqf during the construction of the underground el-Marwani Mosque from 1996 to 1999.[1] The project is under the academic auspices of Bar Ilan University and until 2017 was funded by the Ir David Foundation and Israel Exploration Society.The destruction of so many tons of property from the Temple Mount was the biggest archaeological crime in history.

The project webpage is now warning of other large-scale destruction of Jewish history by Palestinians, ISIS-style.
----
In full view of people passing on the highway 90, Palestinians are using bulldozers and other heavy equipment to destroy Second Temple-era Jewish settlements in order to build a new village.

This is all happening in Area B, under Palestinian administrative control.

Moreover, it looks like Palestinian antiquities thieves are working in the area at night to steal whatever ancient artifacts they can find to sell on the market.

The article notes that similar destruction has recently begun in the area of the Hasmonean palaces in Jericho.
---------------------------
---------------------------------------------------

Give Area C and the former Jewish Quarter and the Temple Mount to the invading Arabs who are now calling themselves the ancient inhabitants of the land, who should be protecting their ancient history and making tourism out of it?

Which one of you would dare do so?

Does the UN have any say on the Arabs destroying other people's ancient places?
Where has UNESCO been all of this time? What is their position about the endless destruction of Jewish History? Have they not complained about ISIS destroying antiquity?

Oh, wait......they have been giving Palestinian Status to Jewish places like the Cave of the Patriarchs and Rachel's Tomb, and many other places.

I guess if the UN is in on it, then there is no hope for the Jewish people to ever get their ancient lands back, much less be allowed to freely visit those places, which is true when it comes to the Cave and the Tombs, etc, where Jews can only visit if they have a military escort.

Questions:

How can peace be achieved with the PA, the alleged partner for Peace, when it is the PA itself which allows such destruction to happen?

How can peace be achieved when destroying Israel is still in the Hamas and PLO, and Fatah charters and is taught on a daily basis to all Arabs who live in Gaza and areas A and B, and C and even in Israel?

What in the world is going to be done about the endless destruction and the want to destroy all which is Jewish on the Land of Israel, which does include all of Judea and Samaria which is the land of the Jewish People.
(I will not eve speculate what may already have been done to Jewish history in Jordan and Gaza )

DO the Arabs have the right to destroy any and all Jewish History they find and never have to answer to the rest of the world, much less to the Jewish People?

So your basic argument is "It's all Jewish because I say it's Jewish".

Fine, then if Israel is Jewish, the the US is Native America and the whites and blacks and Asians can get the fuck out of there and move back to wherever it is they're from. Then where's Israel? It's fucked.

I do thank you for your involvement in this thread.

Thank you for saying absolutely nothing of value.

What is NOT Jewish Heritage? Evidence.

What is "Palestinian" Heritage? Evidence.

What Arab/Muslim/Palestinian Heritage has Israel been destroying in Israel, Judea and Samaria?

If you choose to return with an answer, I do hope this time it will be with SOMETHING, rather than the NOTHING you chose in your last post.

Am Israel Chai.

Jews haven't been a majority there since the 5th Century AD. Oh, wow.

You equate national disputes with parliament disputes, majority in the former case is irrelevant. And in no way this gives the right to Arabs to destroy national Jewish heritage.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I was not going to start a new thread on the forums, but this one seems to be a must.

I know that there are many well meaning people on these threads who want to see an end to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, like Coyote and many others. And then, there are those who are very ill meaning and do nothing but bash Israel and Jews over everything.

I believe that any and all, need to be reminded that this is Jewish land. It has been Jewish land for over 3000 years, and never contested by any one of its invaders and conquerors until the "dreadful day" when the Jews assumed that they could legally regain sovereignty over it and the Balfour Declaration happened and the Mandate for Palestine was to give the Jews their ancient homeland back.

We all know what has happened since 1920.

But what many do not know and do not seem to be aware of is what the people who have been calling themselves Palestinians since 1964 have been doing to ancient places they should have been claiming as their own, for after all, do they not say that they have been on the land as the Ancient Palestinians for the past 5000, no - 6000, no - 10000 years?

Aren't these ancient places and artifacts in Jerusalem and in Judea and Samaria part of the Palestinian History? Then why are they destroying any and all of it?

This is what has been going on for decades. Why are the "Palestinians" destroying their alleged history?

Palestinians destroying ancient Herodian and Hashmonean antiquities - literally bulldozing Jewish history ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

We've discussed the The Temple Mount Sifting Project before:
The Temple Mount Sifting Project (formerly known as the Temple Mount Salvage Operation) is an Israeli archaeological project begun in 2005 dedicated to recovering archaeological artifacts from 400 truckloads of topsoil removed from the Temple Mount by the Waqf during the construction of the underground el-Marwani Mosque from 1996 to 1999.[1] The project is under the academic auspices of Bar Ilan University and until 2017 was funded by the Ir David Foundation and Israel Exploration Society.The destruction of so many tons of property from the Temple Mount was the biggest archaeological crime in history.

The project webpage is now warning of other large-scale destruction of Jewish history by Palestinians, ISIS-style.
----
In full view of people passing on the highway 90, Palestinians are using bulldozers and other heavy equipment to destroy Second Temple-era Jewish settlements in order to build a new village.

This is all happening in Area B, under Palestinian administrative control.

Moreover, it looks like Palestinian antiquities thieves are working in the area at night to steal whatever ancient artifacts they can find to sell on the market.

The article notes that similar destruction has recently begun in the area of the Hasmonean palaces in Jericho.
---------------------------
---------------------------------------------------

Give Area C and the former Jewish Quarter and the Temple Mount to the invading Arabs who are now calling themselves the ancient inhabitants of the land, who should be protecting their ancient history and making tourism out of it?

Which one of you would dare do so?

Does the UN have any say on the Arabs destroying other people's ancient places?
Where has UNESCO been all of this time? What is their position about the endless destruction of Jewish History? Have they not complained about ISIS destroying antiquity?

Oh, wait......they have been giving Palestinian Status to Jewish places like the Cave of the Patriarchs and Rachel's Tomb, and many other places.

I guess if the UN is in on it, then there is no hope for the Jewish people to ever get their ancient lands back, much less be allowed to freely visit those places, which is true when it comes to the Cave and the Tombs, etc, where Jews can only visit if they have a military escort.

Questions:

How can peace be achieved with the PA, the alleged partner for Peace, when it is the PA itself which allows such destruction to happen?

How can peace be achieved when destroying Israel is still in the Hamas and PLO, and Fatah charters and is taught on a daily basis to all Arabs who live in Gaza and areas A and B, and C and even in Israel?

What in the world is going to be done about the endless destruction and the want to destroy all which is Jewish on the Land of Israel, which does include all of Judea and Samaria which is the land of the Jewish People.
(I will not eve speculate what may already have been done to Jewish history in Jordan and Gaza )

DO the Arabs have the right to destroy any and all Jewish History they find and never have to answer to the rest of the world, much less to the Jewish People?

So your basic argument is "It's all Jewish because I say it's Jewish".

Fine, then if Israel is Jewish, the the US is Native America and the whites and blacks and Asians can get the fuck out of there and move back to wherever it is they're from. Then where's Israel? It's fucked.

I do thank you for your involvement in this thread.

Thank you for saying absolutely nothing of value.

What is NOT Jewish Heritage? Evidence.

What is "Palestinian" Heritage? Evidence.

What Arab/Muslim/Palestinian Heritage has Israel been destroying in Israel, Judea and Samaria?

If you choose to return with an answer, I do hope this time it will be with SOMETHING, rather than the NOTHING you chose in your last post.

Am Israel Chai.

Jews haven't been a majority there since the 5th Century AD. Oh, wow.

You equate national disputes with parliament disputes, majority in the former case is irrelevant. And in no way this gives the right to Arabs to destroy national Jewish heritage.

No, it doesn't give anyone "the right" to do anything. Rights can't be given.

The POWER to destroy lies with those who hold the power over anything. That's the unfortunate reality of the world we live in. You control it, you can do whatever you like with it.

The whole situation is a power struggle between two peoples and they'll use culture and history to further their own political goals, and right now, neither is being pretty subtle about it.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Not discussing Politics. Not discussing power on this thread.

This thread is to discuss the destruction of Jewish Heritage/History.

How much of it has been done. Since when? Why only since a certain year. Why only Jewish History? Why are the Arabs destroying what they have been saying is really their heritage, so on and so forth.

No need to point out over and over again that it is a "Power struggle between two people".

I am asking WHY ??????? are the Arabs destroying what they allege is their history?

 

[Roudy]

What about the Jewish people who were forced to flee any Arab Countries they were living in ?

Another horror foisted upon the Jewish people by the zionists.

No, Herr Goebbles, just another horror foisted on the Jewish People by the Muslims since the 7th Century, because the Muslims see themselves as the Masters of the Jews and all other non Muslims.

Before the establishment of the state of Israel and its success blew that theory up.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Not discussing Politics. Not discussing power on this thread.

This thread is to discuss the destruction of Jewish Heritage/History.

How much of it has been done. Since when? Why only since a certain year. Why only Jewish History? Why are the Arabs destroying what they have been saying is really their heritage, so on and so forth.

No need to point out over and over again that it is a "Power struggle between two people".

I am asking WHY ??????? are the Arabs destroying what they allege is their history?

The simple answer is: Because Jewish history in Israel ISN'T their history. They need to destroy Jewish history in Israel to hide it, so they can claim they've been there for 10,000 years. Sort of like a criminal trying to destroy evidence.

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ Gratefully the Arabs do not have control over every archeological site so that findings like this one cannot be destroyed. But they will sure would like to find a way of doing so, or claiming it as theirs ]

The Palestinian Arab Ma'an News Agency, which is touted as independent and objective, reports the story this way in Arabic:
Continuing the attempts of the Israeli occupation to write an imaginary history of its control over the city of Jerusalem, it continues to talk about the artificial history of the temple and what it calls "its ancient history" in the city.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's spokesman for the Arab media, Ophir Gendelman, published photographs of relics that the Israeli Antiquities Authority allegedly found in excavations near the Al-Buraq Wall. The occupation claims that they confirm their "ancient history" in the city, and that the seals and artifacts date back to the period of the "First Temple" 2,700 years ago and to one of the "rulers of Jerusalem" mentioned in the Torah.

(full article online)

Palestinians really get upset when archaeology shows Jews controlled Jerusalem (update) ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[frigidweirdo]

Not discussing Politics. Not discussing power on this thread.

This thread is to discuss the destruction of Jewish Heritage/History.

How much of it has been done. Since when? Why only since a certain year. Why only Jewish History? Why are the Arabs destroying what they have been saying is really their heritage, so on and so forth.

No need to point out over and over again that it is a "Power struggle between two people".

I am asking WHY ??????? are the Arabs destroying what they allege is their history?

Yeah, you just keep up the bullshit....

 

[Sixties Fan]

Not discussing Politics. Not discussing power on this thread.

This thread is to discuss the destruction of Jewish Heritage/History.

How much of it has been done. Since when? Why only since a certain year. Why only Jewish History? Why are the Arabs destroying what they have been saying is really their heritage, so on and so forth.

No need to point out over and over again that it is a "Power struggle between two people".

I am asking WHY ??????? are the Arabs destroying what they allege is their history?

Yeah, you just keep up the bullshit....

In other words, an alleged indigenous people destroying their alleged indigenous history/heritage is of no concern of yours.

It is THEIR history, and they can do whatever they wish with them.

Now, where in the world does any other indigenous people think that way?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Not discussing Politics. Not discussing power on this thread.

This thread is to discuss the destruction of Jewish Heritage/History.

How much of it has been done. Since when? Why only since a certain year. Why only Jewish History? Why are the Arabs destroying what they have been saying is really their heritage, so on and so forth.

No need to point out over and over again that it is a "Power struggle between two people".

I am asking WHY ??????? are the Arabs destroying what they allege is their history?

Yeah, you just keep up the bullshit....

In other words, an alleged indigenous people destroying their alleged indigenous history/heritage is of no concern of yours.

It is THEIR history, and they can do whatever they wish with them.

Now, where in the world does any other indigenous people think that way?

I didn't say it wasn't of concern.

It's their history, they can't do with it whatever they like. Though they seem to.

I mean, the Israelis actually back Turkey in suppressing the Armenian genocide because.... because they want to be the eternal victims of the Holocaust, and if other cultures have their own victimization then this hurts Israel in promoting their own.

It's a power play, trying to force people to accept their way of thinking rather than someone else's.

You talk about "indigenous people", in the middle of the 1500s there were around 5,000 Jews in the Palestine area. In the middle of the 1600s there were around 2,000 Jews in the area.

At the same time there were around 200,000 Muslims in the area. Just like Israel with the Armenian Genocide, you're using "indigenous" as a loaded word, that if you actually look at it properly, doesn't mean too much.

 

[USAF 2023]

Now that Jerusalem is off the table for negotiations, the Palestinians have a golden opportunity to now seek peace with Israel before they lose even more.

Can you simultaneously colonize your neighbors and still claim you want peace?

Can you deny Israel has the Right to Exist and still want “ peace’?