The real death rate of COVID-19 in the U.S. may be 140 times smaller than what is being reported

The NIH and the CDC do presume who has been infected vs the tests given for confirmation, and they estimate, based on model predictions and data from all other countries, that the USA mortality rate could settle at around 1%, almost half of the mortality rate being reported now on the actual test takers.

They do not predict it will be 140 times less than now, as Danny the squirrel does.
They "presume." That's the problem with their methodology.

You just can't live with the idea that this disease just isn't that serious, can you?

You want more people to die. Sad.
 
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Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
Unlike TDS morons, he can do simple math.

He picked a single country (Iceland) to compare to the US population to determine the COVID-19 mortality rate. Why Iceland? Why not Italy?

Because Iceland is doing studies via testing on infected/non-infected population counts.

Great. How has that early and vast testing benefited Iceland in preventing the spread? You know, the exact opposite of what we did. We kind of followed the Italian head up the ass model in fighting this disease.

Iceland is a far smaller country, and probably doesn't have the FDA/CDC red tape we have regarding approval of medical devices and treatments.

Some would call Iceland's healthcare system socialist too, but that would be inconvenient right now, wouldn't it?

Iceland for the most part is a rural country, even their biggest city is rather small. Even though they got hit pretty hard (probably due to heavy importation of goods and tourism) their mortality rate is far less than most other countries, including us. We recently surpassed them on the number of dead per capita. Iceland has taken social distancing more seriously as well as using testing to track the virus spread. These are things we are lacking in. The only benefit to comparing Iceland to us is to paint an unfounded and most likely false narrative to protect Dear Leader's reputation.
Their mortality rate is lower because they test everyone. Every other country is relying on people who have actually been tested, which is a subset of the people who have been infected.
 
This should drive the hysteria mongers crazy. How are they going to generate hysteria about a disease that is less serious than the flu?

It’s possible that the number of people in the U.S. who are infected with COVID-19 is much bigger than the number that is being currently reported, but many of those people haven’t gotten substantially sick, and so haven’t gotten tested.
The death rate is calculated by dividing the number of people who die by the number who get infected.
But while we do have accurate information about the numerator, we really have no idea what the denominator is. It’s possible that the real denominator is magnitudes bigger than what is being reported, because most infected people have either no symptoms or minor symptoms, and thus, don’t get tested. If this is indeed the case, then it’s possible that the real death rate is far, far lower than the one that is being reported.
As of this writing (early March 30, 2020), in the U.S., 142,735 people have tested positive for COVID-19, and of those, 2,489 have died from it. (I got those numbers from this link, which is continuously being updated.)
Based on these numbers, the fatality rate in the U.S. is 1.744%
Meanwhile, Iceland tested a large segment of its population, including people with no symptoms, and found that 6.3% of them have COVID-19.
The U.S. has 328 million people. If we extrapolate Iceland’s figure of 6.3% to the U.S., it would suggest that more than 20 million people in the U.S. have COVID-19. (I realize that extrapolating Iceland’s test results to the U.S. is not the ideal way to determine the rate of infection in the U.S. But given the absence of this particular type of widespread testing in the U.S., it’s probably the most accurate guess that we can make at this point in time. Hopefully, such widespread testing will be done in the U.S., and we will then have a more accurate number.)
So for the U.S., the real denominator may be 140 times bigger than the one that is being reported.
Which, if true, would indicate that the estimated real death rate in the U.S. is more than two magnitudes smaller than what is being reported.
And, if true, would mean that the estimated real death rate in the U.S. is 0.01246%

you realize that the same issue is there for everything we claim a death rate on? We claim a death rate from the Flu but nobody knows how many were sick with it and did not get an official test...yet you people never talk about how those numbers are wrong...why is that?
Wrong. In Iceland they test everyone. They know what their denominator is.
 
This should drive the hysteria mongers crazy. How are they going to generate hysteria about a disease that is less serious than the flu?

It’s possible that the number of people in the U.S. who are infected with COVID-19 is much bigger than the number that is being currently reported, but many of those people haven’t gotten substantially sick, and so haven’t gotten tested.
The death rate is calculated by dividing the number of people who die by the number who get infected.
But while we do have accurate information about the numerator, we really have no idea what the denominator is. It’s possible that the real denominator is magnitudes bigger than what is being reported, because most infected people have either no symptoms or minor symptoms, and thus, don’t get tested. If this is indeed the case, then it’s possible that the real death rate is far, far lower than the one that is being reported.
As of this writing (early March 30, 2020), in the U.S., 142,735 people have tested positive for COVID-19, and of those, 2,489 have died from it. (I got those numbers from this link, which is continuously being updated.)
Based on these numbers, the fatality rate in the U.S. is 1.744%
Meanwhile, Iceland tested a large segment of its population, including people with no symptoms, and found that 6.3% of them have COVID-19.
The U.S. has 328 million people. If we extrapolate Iceland’s figure of 6.3% to the U.S., it would suggest that more than 20 million people in the U.S. have COVID-19. (I realize that extrapolating Iceland’s test results to the U.S. is not the ideal way to determine the rate of infection in the U.S. But given the absence of this particular type of widespread testing in the U.S., it’s probably the most accurate guess that we can make at this point in time. Hopefully, such widespread testing will be done in the U.S., and we will then have a more accurate number.)
So for the U.S., the real denominator may be 140 times bigger than the one that is being reported.
Which, if true, would indicate that the estimated real death rate in the U.S. is more than two magnitudes smaller than what is being reported.
And, if true, would mean that the estimated real death rate in the U.S. is 0.01246%

you realize that the same issue is there for everything we claim a death rate on? We claim a death rate from the Flu but nobody knows how many were sick with it and did not get an official test...yet you people never talk about how those numbers are wrong...why is that?
Wrong. In Iceland they test everyone. They know what their denominator is.

they have tested the entire country?
 
Neat.

Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
Unlike TDS morons, he can do simple math.

He picked a single country (Iceland) to compare to the US population to determine the COVID-19 mortality rate. Why Iceland? Why not Italy?

Because Iceland is doing studies via testing on infected/non-infected population counts.

Great. How has that early and vast testing benefited Iceland in preventing the spread? You know, the exact opposite of what we did. We kind of followed the Italian head up the ass model in fighting this disease.

Iceland is a far smaller country, and probably doesn't have the FDA/CDC red tape we have regarding approval of medical devices and treatments.
And I doubt they have a huge foreign tourist trade, like we do....1.2 billion foreign tourists a year! It was inevitable for it to be spread throughout the United States....from the grand canyon, san francisco golden gate bridge to the beaches in Miami and Disney world, Mardi Gra..... from sea to shining sea.....

Plus it was winter, Iceland likely has no tourists during winter.....
 
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Neat.

Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
Unlike TDS morons, he can do simple math.

He picked a single country (Iceland) to compare to the US population to determine the COVID-19 mortality rate. Why Iceland? Why not Italy?

then he would not have had anything to write about and the sheep like the OP would not have been giving his BS clicks
Wrong, asshole.
 
Neat.

Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
Unlike TDS morons, he can do simple math.

He picked a single country (Iceland) to compare to the US population to determine the COVID-19 mortality rate. Why Iceland? Why not Italy?
Because in Iceland they test everyone, so the denominator is known. In Italy they don't know how many people are actually infected.

How much did Iceland's testing mitigate the spread of the virus and allow those sick to get help sooner? How much of a difference does the geographical size and population matter? How do hospital room, personnel and equipment shortages change the mortality rate? Does the climate make a difference? Does the genetic make up of Iceland make a difference?

There are so many variables but because some guy you never heard of and more than likely will never hear from again said something you'll let your confirmation bias accept it as truth rather than listen to people who know something about infectious diseases.
 
Neat.

Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
Unlike TDS morons, he can do simple math.

He picked a single country (Iceland) to compare to the US population to determine the COVID-19 mortality rate. Why Iceland? Why not Italy?

then he would not have had anything to write about and the sheep like the OP would not have been giving his BS clicks
Wrong, asshole.


Prove he's wrong.
 
This should drive the hysteria mongers crazy. How are they going to generate hysteria about a disease that is less serious than the flu?

It’s possible that the number of people in the U.S. who are infected with COVID-19 is much bigger than the number that is being currently reported, but many of those people haven’t gotten substantially sick, and so haven’t gotten tested.
The death rate is calculated by dividing the number of people who die by the number who get infected.
But while we do have accurate information about the numerator, we really have no idea what the denominator is. It’s possible that the real denominator is magnitudes bigger than what is being reported, because most infected people have either no symptoms or minor symptoms, and thus, don’t get tested. If this is indeed the case, then it’s possible that the real death rate is far, far lower than the one that is being reported.
As of this writing (early March 30, 2020), in the U.S., 142,735 people have tested positive for COVID-19, and of those, 2,489 have died from it. (I got those numbers from this link, which is continuously being updated.)
Based on these numbers, the fatality rate in the U.S. is 1.744%
Meanwhile, Iceland tested a large segment of its population, including people with no symptoms, and found that 6.3% of them have COVID-19.
The U.S. has 328 million people. If we extrapolate Iceland’s figure of 6.3% to the U.S., it would suggest that more than 20 million people in the U.S. have COVID-19. (I realize that extrapolating Iceland’s test results to the U.S. is not the ideal way to determine the rate of infection in the U.S. But given the absence of this particular type of widespread testing in the U.S., it’s probably the most accurate guess that we can make at this point in time. Hopefully, such widespread testing will be done in the U.S., and we will then have a more accurate number.)
So for the U.S., the real denominator may be 140 times bigger than the one that is being reported.
Which, if true, would indicate that the estimated real death rate in the U.S. is more than two magnitudes smaller than what is being reported.
And, if true, would mean that the estimated real death rate in the U.S. is 0.01246%

you realize that the same issue is there for everything we claim a death rate on? We claim a death rate from the Flu but nobody knows how many were sick with it and did not get an official test...yet you people never talk about how those numbers are wrong...why is that?
Wrong. In Iceland they test everyone. They know what their denominator is.
Iceland in winter, can not be compared to us, and our tourist trade... FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD!
 
Neat.

Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
Unlike TDS morons, he can do simple math.

He picked a single country (Iceland) to compare to the US population to determine the COVID-19 mortality rate. Why Iceland? Why not Italy?

Because Iceland is doing studies via testing on infected/non-infected population counts.

Great. How has that early and vast testing benefited Iceland in preventing the spread? You know, the exact opposite of what we did. We kind of followed the Italian head up the ass model in fighting this disease.

Iceland is a far smaller country, and probably doesn't have the FDA/CDC red tape we have regarding approval of medical devices and treatments.
And I doubt they have a huge foreign tourist trade, like we do....1.2 billion foreign tourists a year! It was inevitable for it to be spread throughout the United States....from the grand canyon, san francisco golden gate bridge to the beaches in Miami and Disney world

Plus it was winter, Iceland likely has no tourists during winter.....

I was there in early October 2018, it was considering the end of peak season as soon many of the roads would not be passable.
 
Neat.

Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
Unlike TDS morons, he can do simple math.

He picked a single country (Iceland) to compare to the US population to determine the COVID-19 mortality rate. Why Iceland? Why not Italy?
Because in Iceland they test everyone, so the denominator is known. In Italy they don't know how many people are actually infected.

How much did Iceland's testing mitigate the spread of the virus and allow those sick to get help sooner? How much of a difference does the geographical size and population matter? How do hospital room, personnel and equipment shortages change the mortality rate? Does the climate make a difference? Does the genetic make up of Iceland make a difference?

There are so many variables but because some guy you never heard of and more than likely will never hear from again said something you'll let your confirmation bias accept it as truth rather than listen to people who know something about infectious diseases.
On the other hand, you trust implicitely figures produced by, say, the communist government of China and Italy that has all sorts of complications. You're searching for a reason to claim the death rate is much higher than it is.
 
Neat.

Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
Unlike TDS morons, he can do simple math.

He picked a single country (Iceland) to compare to the US population to determine the COVID-19 mortality rate. Why Iceland? Why not Italy?
Because in Iceland they test everyone, so the denominator is known. In Italy they don't know how many people are actually infected.

How much did Iceland's testing mitigate the spread of the virus and allow those sick to get help sooner? How much of a difference does the geographical size and population matter? How do hospital room, personnel and equipment shortages change the mortality rate? Does the climate make a difference? Does the genetic make up of Iceland make a difference?

There are so many variables but because some guy you never heard of and more than likely will never hear from again said something you'll let your confirmation bias accept it as truth rather than listen to people who know something about infectious diseases.
On the other hand, you trust implicitely figures produced by, say, the communist government of China and Italy that has all sorts of complications. You're searching for a reason to claim the death rate is much higher than it is.

Italy is Communist? Before today you probably would have loathed Iceland and called them communists too.

I don't think we should singularly look at any one country. I also rely on information by professionals and not Danfromsquirrelhill.
 
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Neat.

Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
Unlike TDS morons, he can do simple math.

He picked a single country (Iceland) to compare to the US population to determine the COVID-19 mortality rate. Why Iceland? Why not Italy?

Because Iceland is doing studies via testing on infected/non-infected population counts.

Great. How has that early and vast testing benefited Iceland in preventing the spread? You know, the exact opposite of what we did. We kind of followed the Italian head up the ass model in fighting this disease.

Iceland is a far smaller country, and probably doesn't have the FDA/CDC red tape we have regarding approval of medical devices and treatments.
And I doubt they have a huge foreign tourist trade, like we do....1.2 billion foreign tourists a year! It was inevitable for it to be spread throughout the United States....from the grand canyon, san francisco golden gate bridge to the beaches in Miami and Disney world

Plus it was winter, Iceland likely has no tourists during winter.....

I was there in early October 2018, it was considering the end of peak season as soon many of the roads would not be passable.
Tourism in New York isn't exactly thriving in January either.
 
Loose end facts that no media will consolidate is that 85% of deaths are from a combination of life takers including Corona and 15% are attributable solely to Corona. Of all those 15%, 80% are parties over 60 years of age. I’m over 60 and not hiding
 
Neat.

Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
Unlike TDS morons, he can do simple math.

He picked a single country (Iceland) to compare to the US population to determine the COVID-19 mortality rate. Why Iceland? Why not Italy?
Because in Iceland they test everyone, so the denominator is known. In Italy they don't know how many people are actually infected.

How much did Iceland's testing mitigate the spread of the virus and allow those sick to get help sooner? How much of a difference does the geographical size and population matter? How do hospital room, personnel and equipment shortages change the mortality rate? Does the climate make a difference? Does the genetic make up of Iceland make a difference?

There are so many variables but because some guy you never heard of and more than likely will never hear from again said something you'll let your confirmation bias accept it as truth rather than listen to people who know something about infectious diseases.
On the other hand, you trust implicitely figures produced by, say, the communist government of China and Italy that has all sorts of complications. You're searching for a reason to claim the death rate is much higher than it is.

Italy is Communist? Before today you probably would have loathed Iceland and called them communists too.

I don't think we should singularly look at any one country. I also rely on information by professionals and not Danfromsquirrelhill.
Italy has complications, like lots of old people. I didn't claim it was communist.

All the other countries are reporting only cases where the person was tested, and that's a small percentage of the population, so their figures are worthless.
 
Neat.

Danfromsquirrelhill has an opinion and a Wordpress page.
Unlike TDS morons, he can do simple math.

He picked a single country (Iceland) to compare to the US population to determine the COVID-19 mortality rate. Why Iceland? Why not Italy?

then he would not have had anything to write about and the sheep like the OP would not have been giving his BS clicks
Wrong, asshole.


Prove he's wrong.
I've already posted on this subject multiple times, moron.
 

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