The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry

[KingGUERRILLA]

Look man nobody in their right mind is going to Simply Veer to the right in an attempt to avoid two men with guns who were supposedly threatening them...

You are the idiot spewing AA had mental issues and yet you bring this argument to this forum. Seriously?

No one with a loaded shotgun makes this move against an unarmed jogger if his intent is to let the jogger pass by his truck unscathed.

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And TM started that attack from the position where he “aimed” the shotgun at AA right here:

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LOL@
"No one with a loaded shotgun makes this move against an unarmed jogger if his intent is to let the jogger pass by his truck unscathed"

-He wasn't a jogger he was a criminal fleeing from the scene of the crime

- if Travis intended to hurt him he had lots of chances prior to being punched

- there's absolutely no way they could determine whether or not he was armed they do know he was intent on Escape however

"He wasn't a jogger he was a criminal fleeing from the scene of the crime"

He committed a misdemeanor. Georgia law doesn't allow for the McMichaels to detain anyone for anything less than a felony.

he committed a crime that precipitated Reasonable Suspicion of a felony

And then incited pursuit by fleeing and refusing to identify himself

He then escalated a confrontation by utilizing violence

sure is tough to defend a criminal isn't it?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

And then incited pursuit by fleeing and refusing to identify himself

why did AA have to identify himself. Is that some kind of law where blacks are property and whites are the owners where you live.

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

And then incited pursuit by fleeing and refusing to identify himself

why did AA have to identify himself. Is that some kind of law where blacks are property and whites are the owners where you live.

no, it's the Civilized thing to do and what would be expected of any rational person who was recently trespassing on another person's property

You see when someone comes into a neighborhood where they have been identified as a criminal and commits a criminal act they might be confronted and if they become violent after they are confronted the indigenous population has a reasonable self-defense claim

*got that?

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

as professional law enforcement agents both these men were painfully aware that aiming a firearm at a fleeing suspect is a crime so they were smart enough not to do that type of thing

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Your expert witness that you posted says that TM “aimed” the shotgun at AA as a defensive move.

This is your dude,
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The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry


Since AA had a third felonious assault suspect chasing him from behind in a truck I contend TM was not in a defensive stance. If he were in a defensive stance he would have told his old man to get down, hop back into the truck and drive out of harms way.

No matter what the moron with a gun was thinking he did AIM his weapon at AA on camera.

So there is proof and according to your precise omnipotent interpretation of the law TM committed a crime when he aimed and pointed his gun at AA.

When you find out this was a lie just like Jacob Blake how are you going to feel?

they lied to you

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

TM committed a crime when he aimed and pointed his gun at AA

when did he do that in the video?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

When you find out this was a lie

What is a lie?

I got this screenshot from the video you posted:

What is the lie?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

when did he do that in the video?

When he did it in the video. You posted it. Didn’t you watch what you post.

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What sinks the argument that it was self defense is the sequence of events that led up to the shooting. We covered this about thirty pages before. So let’s cover it one more time since it has slipped your memory. Self Defense is allowed as a defense against criminal action. However, for it to...

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[KingGUERRILLA]

When you find out this was a lie

What is a lie?

I got this screenshot from the video you posted:

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What is the lie?

BLM LIED about Jacob Blake also

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

when did he do that in the video?

When he did it in the video. You posted it. Didn’t you watch what you post.
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What sinks the argument that it was self defense is the sequence of events that led up to the shooting. We covered this about thirty pages before. So let’s cover it one more time since it has slipped your memory. Self Defense is allowed as a defense against criminal action. However, for it to...

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Richard Dial LIED for BLM

 

[NotfooledbyW]

When you find out this was a lie

What is a lie?

I got this screenshot from the video you posted:

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What is the lie?

BLM LIED about Jacob Blake also

Who is Jacob Blake and what does he have to do with your lie that TM Never aimed his shotgun at AA?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

when did he do that in the video?

When he did it in the video. You posted it. Didn’t you watch what you post.
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The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry

What sinks the argument that it was self defense is the sequence of events that led up to the shooting. We covered this about thirty pages before. So let’s cover it one more time since it has slipped your memory. Self Defense is allowed as a defense against criminal action. However, for it to...

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Richard Dial LIED for BLM

YOU LYING RACIST MORON. Richard Dial was referring to this moment:

testifying in court that the video “confirmed” that AA raised his gun at AA right then.

Dial is not lying - You are., You are a liar. You posted the uploader who analyzed the video in detail and he says AA aimed the shotgun at AA and you made it part of your arguments to defend two morons with guns who murdered a young black man for the crime of jogging while black.

The third murderer moron who video recorded the criminal activity he was committing tells police his immediate recollection of what happened was that TM never raised his gun - but his statement will be refuted in the trial because just like you and me and anybody else - we cannot see the position of the shotgun when TM shot AA in the chest right here :

Or as you see it - right here:

Either way - the position is not visible to the camera on Roddy’s phone or to Roddy himself.

The GBI know the distance and the angle and the position of both men when the first shot was fired.

Only a lying idiot like you would take a smear on Roddy’s windshield and call it the shotgun blast seen above a stop sign attempting to prove that TM never aimed the shotgun at AA during the entire ordeal. Even when you know the video shows TM doing it right here:

How long will you display the hate and ignorance that is overpowering you?

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

When you find out this was a lie

What is a lie?

I got this screenshot from the video you posted:

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What is the lie?

BLM LIED about Jacob Blake also

Who is Jacob Blake and what does he have to do with your lie that TM Never aimed his shotgun at AA?

they lied to you about Tamir rice they lied to you about Trayvon Martin they lied to you about George Floyd and they lied to you about Maude arberry

haven't you learned your lesson yet?

You were probably one of those people prattling on about the ridiculous notion that Michael Brown was shot while innocently surrendering with his hands in the air!!!

don't you remember hands up don't shoot??

LOL they lied to you about Michael Brown also!

NOBODY was stupid enough to commit the very basic crime of threatening someone with a weapon in the unfortunate situation with the mcmichels

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

when did he do that in the video?

When he did it in the video. You posted it. Didn’t you watch what you post.
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The painful truth about Ahmaud Arberry

What sinks the argument that it was self defense is the sequence of events that led up to the shooting. We covered this about thirty pages before. So let’s cover it one more time since it has slipped your memory. Self Defense is allowed as a defense against criminal action. However, for it to...

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Richard Dial LIED for BLM

YOU LYING RACIST MORON. Richard Dial was referring to this moment:

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testifying in court that the video “confirmed” that AA raised his gun at AA right then.

Dial is not lying - You are., You are a liar. You posted the uploader who analyzed the video in detail and he says AA aimed the shotgun at AA and you made it part of your arguments to defend two morons with guns who murdered a young black man for the crime of jogging while black.

The third murderer moron who video recorded the criminal activity he was committing tells police his immediate recollection of what happened was that TM never raised his gun - but his statement will be refuted in the trial because just like you and me and anybody else - we cannot see the position of the shotgun when TM shot AA in the chest right here :

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Or as you see it - right here:

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Either way - the position is not visible to the camera on Roddy’s phone or to Roddy himself.

The GBI know the distance and the angle and the position of both men when the first shot was fired.

Only a lying idiot like you would take a smear on Roddy’s windshield and call it the shotgun blast seen above a stop sign attempting to prove that TM never aimed the shotgun at AA during the entire ordeal. Even when you know the video shows TM doing it right here:

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How long will you display the hate and ignorance that is overpowering you?

Shouldering a weapon in the low ready position is not a crime and its certainly not aiming your weapon at someone by any vague stretch of the imagination

You've already tried to shuck and Jive your way around this scenario by claiming he aimed it at his feet...lol

I know you wish that holding a rifle in the low ready position while someone who you had been chasing is now running directly and you was a violent crime in the eyes of Georgia law but Travis McMichael had a very reasonable suspicion that this individual planned to do him harm... anyone who continues to advance while you're holding a shotgun in the low ready position and warning them to stop their advance clearly has a violent intention I don't care if he didn't even speak English nobody runs directly at a man who's holding a gun and the low ready position and yelling at you to STOP...NOBODY

Also the notion that these two men were standing in the middle of the street and threatening a jogger with deadly violence and the jogger just decided to Veer slightly to the right to avoid them is a laughable notion that will destroy your case in court

If in your fevered fantasy-world two murderous rednecks were threatening an innocent black jogger with guns in the middle of a wide-open public roadway in broad daylight while on the phone with 911 the innocent jogger wouldn't have ran directly at them!!!

an innocent young jogger fleeing for his life wouldn't have taken another step in their direction under any circumstances known to man... especially if there was another man behind him who had tried to run him down with his car!!
the kid would immediately run off road... a young experience Street criminal being chased by two groups in trucks is not going to run down the goddamn Road LOL

he would have ducked between houses for cover and sought help from the neibourhood if he was an innocent young jogger being threatened by Violent Men with guns.

If he was an experienced Street Criminal on probation who just caught committing a crime then he would likely do something crazy to escape like try to beat a man up who was holding a shotgun in the low ready position because he knew damn good and well he be going to jail when the cops got there and these men had no intention of shooting him or they would have shot him long before he ran up and started punching them

The only reason he grew the balls to run up and pull his Afro Samurai maneuver was because he was a hundred percent convinced that these men were not willing to pull the trigger on him

Naturally he was crazier than a shithouse rat having recently been diagnosed as hearing voices and with a long history of aggressive ridiculous criminal Behavior I think this was right up his alley and I'm shocked he lived as long as he did

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

Only the most cowardly interpretation of Georgia law suggests that you must witness a felony to detain an individual

thank god this heroic individual didnt have that cowardly attitude

 

[NotfooledbyW]

he would have ducked between houses for cover

Whatever. You are an idiot because it matters not at all what AA decided to do to avoid the six minute threat that three men armed with two firearms and two pickup trucks being used as weapons, did to his life.

After TM aims his shotgun at AA as seen in this image:

AA is not responsible for TM’s next move. AA has moved in a batter to avoid physical contact with TM when he stood on the drivers side. This was TM’s reaction:

AA chose to stay on a public road instead of running with his back turned toward two morons with guns onto private property. Had TM remained in the oncoming AA’s choice would have been correct. If TM did not shoot him in the back. AA must have felt safer on a public road and he had every right to make that choice.

AA cannot be blamed for the fact that TM ran to get ahead if AA to force him to stop and when AA didn’t stop or couldn’t stop TM shot him and then a struggle for the gun ensued.

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

he would have ducked between houses for cover

Whatever. You are an idiot because it matters not at all what AA decided to do to avoid the six minute threat that three men armed with two firearms and two pickup trucks being used as weapons, did to his life.

After TM aims his shotgun at AA as seen in this image:
View attachment 447375 AA is not responsible for TM’s next move. AA has moved in a batter to avoid physical contact with TM when he stood on the drivers side. This was TM’s reaction:
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AA chose to stay on a public road instead of running with his back turned toward two morons with guns onto private property. Had TM remained in the oncoming AA’s choice would have been correct. If TM did not shoot him in the back. AA must have felt safer on a public road and he had every right to make that choice.

AA cannot be blamed for the fact that TM ran to get ahead if AA to force him to stop and when AA didn’t stop or couldn’t stop TM shot him and then a struggle for the gun ensued.

So you're saying a pudgy middle-aged redneck guy outran a tall athletic young black man who was a former football player

Maude wouldn't have to turn his back on these men to run between the houses plus he had absolutely no reason to believe they would shoot him since they didn't even aim guns at him much less threaten him during the entire Pursuit

remember during the chase this was his view to the immediate left

... I love the way you said it was private property, certainly didn't seem to bother him at the English house LOL

how come you didn't want to talk about the video I posted

Did you know there have been numerous Good Samaritans who foiled a kidnapping even though they did not witness a felony?

how many years in prison do you want to get this guy who detained an individual who he did not witness commit a felony?

 

[KingGUERRILLA]

Here's a guy that was trying to put a screaming eleven-year-old into a car when a Good Samaritan ran up and threatened him with a weapon thus foiling the kidnapping attempt

Just imagine a world where a Good Samaritan needs to be 100% sure that they are witnessing a felony in order to intervene or else they'll be off to prison

Anyone hanging around a mall for a couple hours will see someone dragging a child kicking and screaming

99% of the time this is their parent trying to get him out of the toy store but every once in awhile it's a life-or-death situation and the public has a right to stop these individuals and make sure what's happening is legitimate

after all it's not a felony to drag a screaming child... thank God this man isn't a sniveling spineless coward like the idiots trying to suggest that you must witness someone commit a felony in order to detain them or you will be facing prison time



here's an example of a man who had to use a gun in order to stop an attempted kidnapping... of course there's no way on Earth he could be certain that he was witnessing a felony at the time



Just imagine a world where these Good Samaritans had to be 100% certain that they were witnessing in a felony in order to intervene or they themselves would be going to jail for a lengthy prison sentence

Naturally everyone knows that you're not going to get charged in the circumstances if you use reasonable force and have probable cause or can display reasonable suspicion but if the mcMichaels end up going to prison for an extended stay it may have a chilling effect throughout society as the next time a Good Samaritan Witnesses someone doing something suspicious they will simply call the police as that person runs off into the sunset hopefully not with an 11 year old girl

 

[NotfooledbyW]

So you're saying a pudgy middle-aged redneck guy outran a tall athletic young black man who was a former football player

You are a stupid racist aren’t you. TM had to run 20 feet to try to block AA again, while AA ran about 60 feet.

Easily done you ignorant fool.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

he had absolutely no reason to believe they would shoot him since they didn't even aim guns at him

Then why do you question AA’s decision to avoid a physical confrontation with TM who was standing on the drivers side by swerving And going around the passenger side. If AA had no reason to fear being shot as you say why not run around the truck and get both trucks behind him and out of that highly racist populated neighborhood.

How was AA suppose to anticipate that TM was whacko and racist enough to run to the front if the truck and shoot him so he could not leave the neighborhood.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

he had absolutely no reason to believe they would shoot him since they didn't even aim guns at him much less threaten him during the entire Pursuit

You are a liar. We can see the video evidence that TM did in fact aim his shotgun at AA right here:

It’s “aimed” enough to call it aimed. And the camera cut away as TM was bringing the gun barrel higher. You are also a liar because you can’t see TM past this frame. And you DON’T see TM until after he shoots AA from his adjusted position in front of the truck. Then we see TM as he retreats and the struggje for the gun begins.

You are lying when you claim that TM did not aim his shotgun again when he was out of view and fired the first shot.