The origin of cowboy culture.

[rupol2000]

If we assume that Americans are descended from Europeans (which contradicts genetic data), then where did the culture of horse breeding and cowboys grazing herds of cows come from? Indeed, in traditional European culture, not only is there no equestrian and bull culture, it is saturated with hatred of the bull, the Europeans exterminated the entire population of Turs, in the Spanish bullfight there is an extremely cruel attitude towards these animals, there is no bull symbolism, except for a negative church demon. And at the same time, this culture is close to the Asian steppe and Indian culture.

 

[Otis Mayfield]

 

[Dekster]

If we assume that Americans are descended from Europeans (which contradicts genetic data), then where did the culture of horse breeding and cowboys grazing herds of cows come from? Indeed, in traditional European culture, not only is there no equestrian and bull culture, it is saturated with hatred of the bull, the Europeans exterminated the entire population of Turs, in the Spanish bullfight there is an extremely cruel attitude towards these animals, there is no bull symbolism, except for a negative church demon. And at the same time, this culture is close to the Asian steppe and Indian culture.

Most of it originated from a brief period after the civil war and before the railroads were completed during the pony express/cattle drive days. Once the railroads were in place, there was no need for either pony express riders or cattle drives.

 

[surada]

If we assume that Americans are descended from Europeans (which contradicts genetic data), then where did the culture of horse breeding and cowboys grazing herds of cows come from? Indeed, in traditional European culture, not only is there no equestrian and bull culture, it is saturated with hatred of the bull, the Europeans exterminated the entire population of Turs, in the Spanish bullfight there is an extremely cruel attitude towards these animals, there is no bull symbolism, except for a negative church demon. And at the same time, this culture is close to the Asian steppe and Indian culture.

Have you forgotten the Bull from Minos.. and the Labyrinth?

 

[surada]

Cretan Bull • Greek Gods & Goddesses

Cretan Bull • Greek Gods & Goddesses

Poseidon, God of the Sea, gave King Minos a magical bull that rose from the sea. This is where the Cretan Bull myth begins.

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Oct 21, 2019 · The island of Crete was the home of the legendary King Minos, who worshiped bulls. Poseidon, God of the Sea, gave King Minos a magical bull that rose from the sea. Poseidon gave Minos this bull on the condition that it was to be sacrificed in Poseidon’s honor, but Minos was so impressed with this bull that he swapped it with an ordinary bull and released the magical bull into his own herd, thinking to trick Poseidon.

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The Cretan Bull was a bull that appeared in the myth of the Labours of Heracles, as well as the myth of the Minotaur, in Greek mythology. It was the creature that Pasiphae fell in love with, and became impregnated by, eventually giving birth to the Minotaur.

(I think there is also some reverence for the Bull in Eastern religions.)

 

[rupol2000]

Most of it originated from a brief period after the civil war and before the railroads were completed during the pony express/cattle drive days. Once the railroads were in place, there was no need for either pony express riders or cattle drives.

Where did they get so many livestock, because there are no large quantities of it in northern Europe, there are no pastures, and there are no such traditions, these are agricultural empires.

 

[rupol2000]

Have you forgotten the Bull from Minos.. and the Labyrinth?

I think that these are late writings that have no meaning in mythology. In the days of Olympus, the bull was probably revered there, because it was an Aryan totem. Zeus himself is portrayed as a Bull
I think the image of the bull that stole Europe symbolized the victory of the Aryans over the old Europeans during the collapse of the Bronze Age

 

[Crepitus]

If we assume that Americans are descended from Europeans (which contradicts genetic data), then where did the culture of horse breeding and cowboys grazing herds of cows come from? Indeed, in traditional European culture, not only is there no equestrian and bull culture, it is saturated with hatred of the bull, the Europeans exterminated the entire population of Turs, in the Spanish bullfight there is an extremely cruel attitude towards these animals, there is no bull symbolism, except for a negative church demon. And at the same time, this culture is close to the Asian steppe and Indian culture.

Originally a Spanish lifestyle, brought to Mexico and moved to the American southwest. It changed along the way of course

Cowboy - Wikipedia

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The Origins of the Cowboy Culture of Western America

Lots more where that came from, Google is your friend.

 

[rupol2000]

(I think there is also some reverence for the Bull in Eastern religions

In the Vedic religion, this is the main totem, the main sacred animal, he is deified along with the mother cow

 

[rupol2000]

Originally a Spanish lifestyle, brought to Mexico and moved to the American southwest. It changed along the way of course

Sports rodeo has nothing to do with bloody treacherous bullfighting, and Mexican genetics have nothing to do with the Spanish

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

I am not sure what your point is.
Why is this an issue for you?
Who cares?

Lascaux is famous for its Palaeolithic cave paintings, found in a complex of caves in the Dordogne region of southwestern France, because of their exceptional quality, size, sophistication and antiquity. Estimated to be up to 20,000 years old, the paintings consist primarily of large animals, once native to the region.

 

[rupol2000]

20,000 years old

The homeland of the cow and the horse is the Asian steppe. Perhaps in ancient times they lived in America, but in Europe it is very unlikely. These drawings look like a cheap fake, a simple paint could not last 20,000 years.
At the same time, it has been reliably established that drawings of the Asian culture of the Bronze Age and a little earlier, shamanic plots, have analogues in America.

 

[rupol2000]

France

I looked at the soils of Europe. These are forest soils. All of Europe was covered with forest. Hypothetically, there could be cows, but there could not be many of them.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Horses were shipped over by the Spanish. American Indians took them from the Spanish and made a part of their culture. The cattle drives resulted from the large number of feral cattle in the West which were rounded up and taken to railheads to be meat for hungry Easterners.

 

[Crepitus]

Sports rodeo has nothing to do with bloody treacherous bullfighting, and Mexican genetics have nothing to do with the Spanish

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

I looked at the soils of Europe. These are forest soils. All of Europe was covered with forest. Hypothetically, there could be cows, but there could not be many of them.

There is plenty of evidence that there have been bovines, ox, cow....ect in Europe since Neolithic times.
But, my question why does it matter so much to you?

 

[Mac-7]

Once the railroads were in place, there was no need for either pony express riders or cattle drives.

But we still have cowboys even today

There are vast ranches that still manage cows from horseback

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Horses were shipped over by the Spanish. American Indians took them from the Spanish and made a part of their culture. The cattle drives resulted from the large number of feral cattle in the West which were rounded up and taken to railheads to be meat for hungry Easterners.

There were horses in the western hemisphere before man arrived.
They died out at the end of the last ice-age. (about 11,000 years ago)
There were also camels, mammoths, giant sloths, cave lions...

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10 Extinct Giants That Once Roamed North America

Wild horses lived in North America long before the Europeans arrived.

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Aug 15, 2015 · Ancient horses lived in North America from about 50 million to 11,000 years ago, when they went extinct at the end of the last ice age, said Ross …

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The American cowboy arrived in the early 1600s from Ireland. They brought their horses with them,. Those horses had an exceptionally easy gait suitable for long hours in the saddle. They were called hobby horses after the most comfortable seat in the cabin, on the hob, close to the fire. Those horses were small, highly intelligent and adaptable. The men called themselves cowboys, now aimless wanderers. In 1654, a black man named Peter Swank ran the vast Pyncheon ranch. He gathered up the cowboys to drive a herd of fattened cattle from Connecticut to Boston. The first cattle drive in the country.

As ranching spread west so did the cowboy.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Most of it originated from a brief period after the civil war and before the railroads were completed during the pony express/cattle drive days. Once the railroads were in place, there was no need for either pony express riders or cattle drives.

The cattle drives were used long after the arrival of the railroad. The cattle drive transported to cattle to the stockyards for transportation by the railroad.