The ongoing 9/11 cover-up.

[LA RAM FAN]

Actually what you do is clutter up the thread with meaningless bullshit so that people that are interested in the subject can't find anything.

I'm sure that's part of your mission, aside from shouting down the truth.

It's beyond me how liars like you sleep at night.

You hit the nail on the head.he may not even be a person,could just be a bot.I hope that is the case cause I hate to think that it really is a human and is that evil and has no kind of conscience as the bush’s and Obama’s.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Actually what you do is clutter up the thread with meaningless bullshit so that people that are interested in the subject can't find anything.

I'm sure that's part of your mission, aside from shouting down the truth.

It's beyond me how liars like you sleep at night.

You hit the nail on the head.he may not even be a person,could just be a bot.I hope that is the case cause I hate to think that it really is a human and is that evil and has no kind of conscience as the bush’s and Obama’s.

LARAM is still farting and slinging shit in defeat like the shill she is

 

[LA RAM FAN]

He has failed too many times with everybody on both 9/11 and the jfk assassination to disprove them that they were both inside jobs.too bad pinochio is fiction and are noses really don’t grow when telling a lie cause soupys would stretch miles long around the worldif that was the case.

You can see it weighs on his conscience, being a
disinformation agent. Someone who has to lie all the time
is an angry lost soul....probably on meds to sleep at night.

That would explain that if it really is a person instead of a bot as I think is the case,how shills like him,candyass and wrongwinger sleep at night,load up on meds for it.

 

[Soupnazi630]

He has failed too many times with everybody on both 9/11 and the jfk assassination to disprove them that they were both inside jobs.too bad pinochio is fiction and are noses really don’t grow when telling a lie cause soupys would stretch miles long around the worldif that was the case.

You can see it weighs on his conscience, being a
disinformation agent. Someone who has to lie all the time
is an angry lost soul....probably on meds to sleep at night.

That would explain that if it really is a person instead of a bot as I think is the case,how shills like him,candyass and wrongwinger sleep at night,load up on meds for it.

LARAM is still farting and slinging shit in defeat which is all she ever does

 

[LA RAM FAN]

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That is another way to always take the trolls to school is they never have any answers for this pic that if a high rise bld was just going to merely collapse,the building sure would not be reduced to powder and would not explode upwards and outwards no less as this pic clearly shows is the case. You challenge these shills to find a pic of a building merely collapsing that looks like this with it being reduced to powder and exploding like that,they never can find one.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

No point, just came to laugh at you hehe

And wound up showing your lack of knowledge
and ignorance. Congratulations are in order.

indeed,you can tell just by looking at the avatar of this troll he is a stupid high school kid who has never studied physics in his class ever once and only goes by what the CIA controlled media tells him,too stupid to understand how the media indeed is controlled by the CIA and just a tool for the government and never investigates anything.

That avatar is obviously him,an ignorant high school kid who lives in his own world only interested in pro wrestling more than likely and that’s as far as his knowledge goes. You try and talk to a high school student like him about 9/11 being an inside job,its the same thing as talking to a brick wall,I have learned that from experience.

He obviously did not look at any of the evidence in this thread,he just saw the thread title and that’s it making up his mind right there and then that the media told him the truth so he won’t look at the evidence they won’t report.

 

[Soupnazi630]

No point, just came to laugh at you hehe

And wound up showing your lack of knowledge
and ignorance. Congratulations are in order.

indeed,you can tell just by looking at the avatar of this troll he is a stupid high school kid who has never studied physics in his class ever once and only goes by what the CIA controlled media tells him,too stupid to understand how the media indeed is controlled by the CIA and just a tool for the government and never investigates anything.

That avatar is obviously him,an ignorant high school kid who lives in his own world only interested in pro wrestling more than likely and that’s as far as his knowledge goes. You try and talk to a high school student

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That is another way to always take the trolls to school is they never have any answers for this pic that if a high rise bld was just going to merely collapse,the building sure would not be reduced to powder and would not explode upwards and outwards no less as this pic clearly shows is the case. You challenge these shills to find a pic of a building merely collapsing that looks like this with it being reduced to powder and exploding like that,they never can find one.

Of course LARAM is a liar it was not reduced to powder.

 

[Soupnazi630]

No point, just came to laugh at you hehe

And wound up showing your lack of knowledge
and ignorance. Congratulations are in order.

indeed,you can tell just by looking at the avatar of this troll he is a stupid high school kid who has never studied physics in his class ever once and only goes by what the CIA controlled media tells him,too stupid to understand how the media indeed is controlled by the CIA and just a tool for the government and never investigates anything.

That avatar is obviously him,an ignorant high school kid who lives in his own world only interested in pro wrestling more than likely and that’s as far as his knowledge goes. You try and talk to a high school student like him about 9/11 being an inside job,its the same thing as talking to a brick wall,I have learned that from experience.

He obviously did not look at any of the evidence in this thread,he just saw the thread title and that’s it making up his mind right there and then that the media told him the truth so he won’t look at the evidence they won’t report.

Still lying and slinging shit in defeat as the king troll.

This girl has never presented evidence to be looked at just like Briss and Angelo and gipper.

She has been proven wrong and a lair and therefore can only fart and cry in defeat.

 

[Briss]

If I might interject here, I do recall hearing about steel that had melted sometime that day.

And jet fuel cannot melt steel.

And I'm pretty sure that some guy said that he had seen the melting of girders, too.

No one saw any of that or any melted steel.

Funny story though

Before I prove to you that such things as a handgun melted into a blob are a reality, I'd like to hear you say one more time that no one saw any such thing.

When you do, I'll show you that it's true, and you can maybe for the first time in hour life ask yourself why you make statements before finding out if they're true or not. And then I'll be asking myself why I would engage you in debate when I'll have to fact check everything you say to make sure you're not lying.

So, why don't you say that there's no such thing? Go ahead . . . fish.

Fire ahead and prove it. Even if someone did see it such a thing would be absolutely irrelevant. The picgture you showed of molten sgteel was NOT specifically steel. Any number of flammable materials could burn that way and such buildings as the towers would have endless flammable materials.

You have nothing.

You're a fukcing hair-trigger, ain't ya? If you slow down just a little, you'll recall that I have put forth no theory. Nor did I post any pictures. That's all in your mind. Your problem is that when you are angry, you become incapable of making a point, and you even recall things that didn't happen.

Anyway, one of the lead investigators into the collapses said he saw melting of girders at the WTC. Wonder why he would say such a thing unless . . .
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Here's something from a guy named Gerry Fornino. He was an FBI bomb technician.

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

No I am not.

You are an overly sensitive fool who is supporting idiiotic theories even if you never stated one.

You stated you would offer proof. You did not. A quote which YOU typed is worthless.

Anyways no one said any such thing LIAR

Wow! You just deny everything and then hope no one can back up what they say. You should have researched what I had told you. Now you're stuck in a corner.

Here is a video of a lead investigator saying that he saw melting of girders at WTC:

9/11: FEMA investigator Abolhassan Astaneh says, "melting of girders" in WTC - Bing video

So, now that you've made a fool of yourself, are you still going to deny it?

Hey, did you happen to google Gerry Fornino? Do you believe he exists? Do you really doubt that he said exactly what I quoted him as saying? Be careful, you could lose what's left of your credibility.

LOLOL. He wasn't a "lead investigator".

Do you believe that if he is not the lead investigator, nothing he said is correct?

It proves you are lying as he was no such thing,

Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl (Persian: ابوالحسن آستانه‌اصل ‎; born 1947 in Tabriz) is an Iranian -American academic, structural engineer and professor at University of California, Berkeley. He was one of the leading structural engineers to investigate the collapse of the World Trade Center towers on the September 11 attacks.

What was he?

And are you, too, going to deny the existence of Gerry Fornino and what he said?

Just another of many engineers who helped investigate.

He was not a lead investigator.

One stupid lie from you at a time do not try to distract from your idiotic spin by naming someone else.

Okay, let's say he was not a lead investigator. Now, do you believe that an academic, structural engineer and professor at University of California, Berkeley did not know what melt means?

And what about Gerry Fornino? I get the feeling that if he wasn't the "lead" FBI bomb technician, you'd use that as proof that he didn't say what he said, or that it wasn't true. Am I right?

Do you under stand that the building was a willow reed? It was NOT brick and mortar... The floors were cantilevered off central core like spokes.. Like the ribs of an umbrella... and it had an aluminum skin. I knew as soon as the planes hit the buildings would collapse.

Hmm. Someone said that there was evidence of melted steel. Another poster said there was none. I found a statement from a structural engineer and professor, and an FBI bomb technician who saw a handgun melted into a blob.

What does telling me about the "skin" of the building have to do with this?

Do you believe that an academic, structural engineer and professor at University of California, Berkeley did not know what melt means?

And what about Gerry Fornino? I get the feeling that if he wasn't the "lead" FBI bomb technician, you'd use that as proof that he didn't say what he said, or that it wasn't true. Am I right?

Steel girders don't melt, but their integrity is compromised when they get hot enough to sag.

They CAN melt but did not on that day. Whether it was girders or some other pieces of steel some melted steel was found at the bottom of the rubble once the clean up neared the end.

Of course it was still hot. Because it was melted from being at tne bottom of that pit covered with debris. Some what similar to a kiln or blacksmiths forge.

Twoofers ignore the details and scream endlessly about jet fuel not being hot enough to melt steel which is true. They ignore that the jet fuel only started a fire and it grew hot enough to cause the steel supports to lose over half of their strength and sag as you pointed out. When they could no longer support the weight they collapsed exactly as physics dictates that they should

Are you the one who started out saying that no steel melted?

You mean a week later underneath all the debris? Do you have a college education?

First you said that no steel had melted, and now you want to amend that statement? Okay, so how hot did it get in the pile of rubble? And how much melted steel was found?

You are feeding a sock puppet shill.

Yeah, and it's choking on the feed as we speak.

You are the shill and yes choking on facts.

whenever LARAM weighs in it is proof positive you have been humiliated and crushed with facts,

You forgot to make a point. I guess I should first ask you whether or not you believe Gerry Fornino exists. So, how about it? Does he exist?

No I did make a point and it was a factual point. LARAM is by definition the proof you are wrong and defeated when he comes in on your side.

Since you are so determined to change the subject you acknowledge that your stupid claim of people seeing melting steel has been crushed and debunked.

I see.

Anyway, do you believe that Gerry Fornino exists?

So you acknowledge that your stupid claim of people seeing mdelting steel was a lie and proven so

No, what's been proven is that in order for you to maintain your ignorance, you have to pretend that Gerry Fornino doesn't exist. When you fail to acknowledge the existence of someone who proves my point, that means that you're in denial.

So just for the record, do you think Gerry Fornino is a figment of my imagination?

I never said he does not exist,

You are lying and of course yoy wish to hide from the fact that you have been proven wrong about people seeing melting steel.

You KNOW that your first claim of people seeing melting steel has been debunked and proven a lie. Acknowledge that fact and then we can move on.

Alright! So now that we've established that you understand that Gerry Fornino exists, let's find out whether or not you believe he has said what he said.

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

If you have reason to doubt that that's exactly what he said, make your case.

Also, you're going on about how my first claim was that people saw melting steel. You're editing the past again. But in case you think I'm kidding about that, show me where I said that anyone saw melting steel.

No you are lying.

I edited nothing and proved that you lied about people seeing melting steell which no one did.

That is trhe issue at hand and you do not get to bury your humilation and failure by trying to swtich to something else.

You acknowledsge and admit you lkied like a coward and got proven so by me.

That is fact and everyone knwos it

You're editing the past again. Show me where I claimed that anyone saw melting steel. And when you are unable to produce that, consider what that means.

Anyway, what about Gerry Fornino? You believe he exists, but do you believe that he said this:

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

Simple yes or no will do.

You are lying again. I am in no way editing the past. You got caught in an outright lie and that is a proven fact.

You do not get to evade that fact by burying it.

Go ahead and admit you were proven wrong and caught in a lie and we ca move on to your next failed effort

Noooooooo, I caught you in a lie.

You said I claimed that people saw steel melting. I challenged you to produce the post in which I made that claim. You couldn't find one. So let's get back to where we were.

Anyway, what about Gerry Fornino? You believe that Gerry Fornino exists, but do you believe that he said this:

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

Simple yes or no will do.

You are a proven liar you caught no such thing and that is FACT.
In post 229 you said someone saw the melting of girders ( which asre steel )

You trhen went on to create a fictitious lie about a person who was NOT a lead investigator and who saw NO MELTING of steel.

You are the one absolutely proven to be a liar and that us fact you cannot refute.


You do not get to cover up your lie by moving on to others. Address the FACT that i proved you a liar and destroyed your argument

This is probably going to be my last post to you because you have no idea what has happened to you.

You are calling Astaneh-Asl a liar because you refuse to acknowledge that when he said that he saw melting of girders, he was talking about what he saw eight days after the attack. That should have given you a clue that he was talking about girders that had been melted. How in hell could he have witnessed girders melting if he wasn't there?

And it would appear that you have failed to locate any post of mine in which I claimed that anyone saw melting girders.

Here's what I've said:

". . . steel that had melted . . ."
". . . that had melted down into blobs . . ."
". . . a handgun melted into a blob . . ."
". . . a melted handgun . . ."
". . . a handgun melted into a blob . . ."
". . . steel had melted . . ."
". . . no steel had melted . . ."
". . . evidence of melted steel . . ."
". . . FBI bomb technician who saw a handgun melted into a blob . . ."
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If you don't understand the difference between melting and melted, just try to remember that melting indicates present tense, and melted indicates past tense.

Anyway, what about Gerry Fornino? You believe he exists, but do you believe that he said this:

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

Simple yes or no will do.

 

[Soupnazi630]

If I might interject here, I do recall hearing about steel that had melted sometime that day.

And jet fuel cannot melt steel.

And I'm pretty sure that some guy said that he had seen the melting of girders, too.

No one saw any of that or any melted steel.

Funny story though

Before I prove to you that such things as a handgun melted into a blob are a reality, I'd like to hear you say one more time that no one saw any such thing.

When you do, I'll show you that it's true, and you can maybe for the first time in hour life ask yourself why you make statements before finding out if they're true or not. And then I'll be asking myself why I would engage you in debate when I'll have to fact check everything you say to make sure you're not lying.

So, why don't you say that there's no such thing? Go ahead . . . fish.

Fire ahead and prove it. Even if someone did see it such a thing would be absolutely irrelevant. The picgture you showed of molten sgteel was NOT specifically steel. Any number of flammable materials could burn that way and such buildings as the towers would have endless flammable materials.

You have nothing.

You're a fukcing hair-trigger, ain't ya? If you slow down just a little, you'll recall that I have put forth no theory. Nor did I post any pictures. That's all in your mind. Your problem is that when you are angry, you become incapable of making a point, and you even recall things that didn't happen.

Anyway, one of the lead investigators into the collapses said he saw melting of girders at the WTC. Wonder why he would say such a thing unless . . .
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Here's something from a guy named Gerry Fornino. He was an FBI bomb technician.

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

No I am not.

You are an overly sensitive fool who is supporting idiiotic theories even if you never stated one.

You stated you would offer proof. You did not. A quote which YOU typed is worthless.

Anyways no one said any such thing LIAR

Wow! You just deny everything and then hope no one can back up what they say. You should have researched what I had told you. Now you're stuck in a corner.

Here is a video of a lead investigator saying that he saw melting of girders at WTC:

9/11: FEMA investigator Abolhassan Astaneh says, "melting of girders" in WTC - Bing video

So, now that you've made a fool of yourself, are you still going to deny it?

Hey, did you happen to google Gerry Fornino? Do you believe he exists? Do you really doubt that he said exactly what I quoted him as saying? Be careful, you could lose what's left of your credibility.

LOLOL. He wasn't a "lead investigator".

Do you believe that if he is not the lead investigator, nothing he said is correct?

It proves you are lying as he was no such thing,

Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl (Persian: ابوالحسن آستانه‌اصل ‎; born 1947 in Tabriz) is an Iranian -American academic, structural engineer and professor at University of California, Berkeley. He was one of the leading structural engineers to investigate the collapse of the World Trade Center towers on the September 11 attacks.

What was he?

And are you, too, going to deny the existence of Gerry Fornino and what he said?

Just another of many engineers who helped investigate.

He was not a lead investigator.

One stupid lie from you at a time do not try to distract from your idiotic spin by naming someone else.

Okay, let's say he was not a lead investigator. Now, do you believe that an academic, structural engineer and professor at University of California, Berkeley did not know what melt means?

And what about Gerry Fornino? I get the feeling that if he wasn't the "lead" FBI bomb technician, you'd use that as proof that he didn't say what he said, or that it wasn't true. Am I right?

Do you under stand that the building was a willow reed? It was NOT brick and mortar... The floors were cantilevered off central core like spokes.. Like the ribs of an umbrella... and it had an aluminum skin. I knew as soon as the planes hit the buildings would collapse.

Hmm. Someone said that there was evidence of melted steel. Another poster said there was none. I found a statement from a structural engineer and professor, and an FBI bomb technician who saw a handgun melted into a blob.

What does telling me about the "skin" of the building have to do with this?

Do you believe that an academic, structural engineer and professor at University of California, Berkeley did not know what melt means?

And what about Gerry Fornino? I get the feeling that if he wasn't the "lead" FBI bomb technician, you'd use that as proof that he didn't say what he said, or that it wasn't true. Am I right?

Steel girders don't melt, but their integrity is compromised when they get hot enough to sag.

They CAN melt but did not on that day. Whether it was girders or some other pieces of steel some melted steel was found at the bottom of the rubble once the clean up neared the end.

Of course it was still hot. Because it was melted from being at tne bottom of that pit covered with debris. Some what similar to a kiln or blacksmiths forge.

Twoofers ignore the details and scream endlessly about jet fuel not being hot enough to melt steel which is true. They ignore that the jet fuel only started a fire and it grew hot enough to cause the steel supports to lose over half of their strength and sag as you pointed out. When they could no longer support the weight they collapsed exactly as physics dictates that they should

Are you the one who started out saying that no steel melted?

You mean a week later underneath all the debris? Do you have a college education?

First you said that no steel had melted, and now you want to amend that statement? Okay, so how hot did it get in the pile of rubble? And how much melted steel was found?

You are feeding a sock puppet shill.

Yeah, and it's choking on the feed as we speak.

You are the shill and yes choking on facts.

whenever LARAM weighs in it is proof positive you have been humiliated and crushed with facts,

You forgot to make a point. I guess I should first ask you whether or not you believe Gerry Fornino exists. So, how about it? Does he exist?

No I did make a point and it was a factual point. LARAM is by definition the proof you are wrong and defeated when he comes in on your side.

Since you are so determined to change the subject you acknowledge that your stupid claim of people seeing melting steel has been crushed and debunked.

I see.

Anyway, do you believe that Gerry Fornino exists?

So you acknowledge that your stupid claim of people seeing mdelting steel was a lie and proven so

No, what's been proven is that in order for you to maintain your ignorance, you have to pretend that Gerry Fornino doesn't exist. When you fail to acknowledge the existence of someone who proves my point, that means that you're in denial.

So just for the record, do you think Gerry Fornino is a figment of my imagination?

I never said he does not exist,

You are lying and of course yoy wish to hide from the fact that you have been proven wrong about people seeing melting steel.

You KNOW that your first claim of people seeing melting steel has been debunked and proven a lie. Acknowledge that fact and then we can move on.

Alright! So now that we've established that you understand that Gerry Fornino exists, let's find out whether or not you believe he has said what he said.

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

If you have reason to doubt that that's exactly what he said, make your case.

Also, you're going on about how my first claim was that people saw melting steel. You're editing the past again. But in case you think I'm kidding about that, show me where I said that anyone saw melting steel.

No you are lying.

I edited nothing and proved that you lied about people seeing melting steell which no one did.

That is trhe issue at hand and you do not get to bury your humilation and failure by trying to swtich to something else.

You acknowledsge and admit you lkied like a coward and got proven so by me.

That is fact and everyone knwos it

You're editing the past again. Show me where I claimed that anyone saw melting steel. And when you are unable to produce that, consider what that means.

Anyway, what about Gerry Fornino? You believe he exists, but do you believe that he said this:

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

Simple yes or no will do.

You are lying again. I am in no way editing the past. You got caught in an outright lie and that is a proven fact.

You do not get to evade that fact by burying it.

Go ahead and admit you were proven wrong and caught in a lie and we ca move on to your next failed effort

Noooooooo, I caught you in a lie.

You said I claimed that people saw steel melting. I challenged you to produce the post in which I made that claim. You couldn't find one. So let's get back to where we were.

Anyway, what about Gerry Fornino? You believe that Gerry Fornino exists, but do you believe that he said this:

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

Simple yes or no will do.

You are a proven liar you caught no such thing and that is FACT.
In post 229 you said someone saw the melting of girders ( which asre steel )

You trhen went on to create a fictitious lie about a person who was NOT a lead investigator and who saw NO MELTING of steel.

You are the one absolutely proven to be a liar and that us fact you cannot refute.


You do not get to cover up your lie by moving on to others. Address the FACT that i proved you a liar and destroyed your argument

This is probably going to be my last post to you because you have no idea what has happened to you.

You are calling Astaneh-Asl a liar because you refuse to acknowledge that when he said that he saw melting of girders, he was talking about what he saw eight days after the attack. That should have given you a clue that he was talking about girders that had been melted. How in hell could he have witnessed girders melting if he wasn't there?

And it would appear that you have failed to locate any post of mine in which I claimed that anyone saw melting girders.

Here's what I've said:

". . . steel that had melted . . ."
". . . that had melted down into blobs . . ."
". . . a handgun melted into a blob . . ."
". . . a melted handgun . . ."
". . . a handgun melted into a blob . . ."
". . . steel had melted . . ."
". . . no steel had melted . . ."
". . . evidence of melted steel . . ."
". . . FBI bomb technician who saw a handgun melted into a blob . . ."
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

If you don't understand the difference between melting and melted, just try to remember that melting indicates present tense, and melted indicates past tense.

Anyway, what about Gerry Fornino? You believe he exists, but do you believe that he said this:

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

Simple yes or no will do.

I already said that stupid.

I pointed out to you that his command of english was poor and when he said he saw melting of steel he meant melted steel after the fact,.

You continued to lie about it until you could not anymore.

YOU ARE A LIAR.

I linked to the quote where you said someone saw MELTING OF STEEL

MELTING OF STEEL

Read those words and eat igt because I have proven you a liar and thjat you are the one who edited history.

Acknowledgew that facf NOW

 

[Soupnazi630]

If I might interject here, I do recall hearing about steel that had melted sometime that day.

And jet fuel cannot melt steel.

And I'm pretty sure that some guy said that he had seen the melting of girders, too.

No one saw any of that or any melted steel.

Funny story though

Before I prove to you that such things as a handgun melted into a blob are a reality, I'd like to hear you say one more time that no one saw any such thing.

When you do, I'll show you that it's true, and you can maybe for the first time in hour life ask yourself why you make statements before finding out if they're true or not. And then I'll be asking myself why I would engage you in debate when I'll have to fact check everything you say to make sure you're not lying.

So, why don't you say that there's no such thing? Go ahead . . . fish.

Fire ahead and prove it. Even if someone did see it such a thing would be absolutely irrelevant. The picgture you showed of molten sgteel was NOT specifically steel. Any number of flammable materials could burn that way and such buildings as the towers would have endless flammable materials.

You have nothing.

You're a fukcing hair-trigger, ain't ya? If you slow down just a little, you'll recall that I have put forth no theory. Nor did I post any pictures. That's all in your mind. Your problem is that when you are angry, you become incapable of making a point, and you even recall things that didn't happen.

Anyway, one of the lead investigators into the collapses said he saw melting of girders at the WTC. Wonder why he would say such a thing unless . . .
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Here's something from a guy named Gerry Fornino. He was an FBI bomb technician.

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

No I am not.

You are an overly sensitive fool who is supporting idiiotic theories even if you never stated one.

You stated you would offer proof. You did not. A quote which YOU typed is worthless.

Anyways no one said any such thing LIAR

Wow! You just deny everything and then hope no one can back up what they say. You should have researched what I had told you. Now you're stuck in a corner.

Here is a video of a lead investigator saying that he saw melting of girders at WTC:

9/11: FEMA investigator Abolhassan Astaneh says, "melting of girders" in WTC - Bing video

So, now that you've made a fool of yourself, are you still going to deny it?

Hey, did you happen to google Gerry Fornino? Do you believe he exists? Do you really doubt that he said exactly what I quoted him as saying? Be careful, you could lose what's left of your credibility.

LOLOL. He wasn't a "lead investigator".

Do you believe that if he is not the lead investigator, nothing he said is correct?

It proves you are lying as he was no such thing,

Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl (Persian: ابوالحسن آستانه‌اصل ‎; born 1947 in Tabriz) is an Iranian -American academic, structural engineer and professor at University of California, Berkeley. He was one of the leading structural engineers to investigate the collapse of the World Trade Center towers on the September 11 attacks.

What was he?

And are you, too, going to deny the existence of Gerry Fornino and what he said?

Just another of many engineers who helped investigate.

He was not a lead investigator.

One stupid lie from you at a time do not try to distract from your idiotic spin by naming someone else.

Okay, let's say he was not a lead investigator. Now, do you believe that an academic, structural engineer and professor at University of California, Berkeley did not know what melt means?

And what about Gerry Fornino? I get the feeling that if he wasn't the "lead" FBI bomb technician, you'd use that as proof that he didn't say what he said, or that it wasn't true. Am I right?

Do you under stand that the building was a willow reed? It was NOT brick and mortar... The floors were cantilevered off central core like spokes.. Like the ribs of an umbrella... and it had an aluminum skin. I knew as soon as the planes hit the buildings would collapse.

Hmm. Someone said that there was evidence of melted steel. Another poster said there was none. I found a statement from a structural engineer and professor, and an FBI bomb technician who saw a handgun melted into a blob.

What does telling me about the "skin" of the building have to do with this?

Do you believe that an academic, structural engineer and professor at University of California, Berkeley did not know what melt means?

And what about Gerry Fornino? I get the feeling that if he wasn't the "lead" FBI bomb technician, you'd use that as proof that he didn't say what he said, or that it wasn't true. Am I right?

Steel girders don't melt, but their integrity is compromised when they get hot enough to sag.

They CAN melt but did not on that day. Whether it was girders or some other pieces of steel some melted steel was found at the bottom of the rubble once the clean up neared the end.

Of course it was still hot. Because it was melted from being at tne bottom of that pit covered with debris. Some what similar to a kiln or blacksmiths forge.

Twoofers ignore the details and scream endlessly about jet fuel not being hot enough to melt steel which is true. They ignore that the jet fuel only started a fire and it grew hot enough to cause the steel supports to lose over half of their strength and sag as you pointed out. When they could no longer support the weight they collapsed exactly as physics dictates that they should

Are you the one who started out saying that no steel melted?

You mean a week later underneath all the debris? Do you have a college education?

First you said that no steel had melted, and now you want to amend that statement? Okay, so how hot did it get in the pile of rubble? And how much melted steel was found?

You are feeding a sock puppet shill.

Yeah, and it's choking on the feed as we speak.

You are the shill and yes choking on facts.

whenever LARAM weighs in it is proof positive you have been humiliated and crushed with facts,

You forgot to make a point. I guess I should first ask you whether or not you believe Gerry Fornino exists. So, how about it? Does he exist?

No I did make a point and it was a factual point. LARAM is by definition the proof you are wrong and defeated when he comes in on your side.

Since you are so determined to change the subject you acknowledge that your stupid claim of people seeing melting steel has been crushed and debunked.

I see.

Anyway, do you believe that Gerry Fornino exists?

So you acknowledge that your stupid claim of people seeing mdelting steel was a lie and proven so

No, what's been proven is that in order for you to maintain your ignorance, you have to pretend that Gerry Fornino doesn't exist. When you fail to acknowledge the existence of someone who proves my point, that means that you're in denial.

So just for the record, do you think Gerry Fornino is a figment of my imagination?

I never said he does not exist,

You are lying and of course yoy wish to hide from the fact that you have been proven wrong about people seeing melting steel.

You KNOW that your first claim of people seeing melting steel has been debunked and proven a lie. Acknowledge that fact and then we can move on.

Alright! So now that we've established that you understand that Gerry Fornino exists, let's find out whether or not you believe he has said what he said.

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

If you have reason to doubt that that's exactly what he said, make your case.

Also, you're going on about how my first claim was that people saw melting steel. You're editing the past again. But in case you think I'm kidding about that, show me where I said that anyone saw melting steel.

No you are lying.

I edited nothing and proved that you lied about people seeing melting steell which no one did.

That is trhe issue at hand and you do not get to bury your humilation and failure by trying to swtich to something else.

You acknowledsge and admit you lkied like a coward and got proven so by me.

That is fact and everyone knwos it

You're editing the past again. Show me where I claimed that anyone saw melting steel. And when you are unable to produce that, consider what that means.

Anyway, what about Gerry Fornino? You believe he exists, but do you believe that he said this:

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

Simple yes or no will do.

You are lying again. I am in no way editing the past. You got caught in an outright lie and that is a proven fact.

You do not get to evade that fact by burying it.

Go ahead and admit you were proven wrong and caught in a lie and we ca move on to your next failed effort

Noooooooo, I caught you in a lie.

You said I claimed that people saw steel melting. I challenged you to produce the post in which I made that claim. You couldn't find one. So let's get back to where we were.

Anyway, what about Gerry Fornino? You believe that Gerry Fornino exists, but do you believe that he said this:

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

Simple yes or no will do.

You are a proven liar you caught no such thing and that is FACT.
In post 229 you said someone saw the melting of girders ( which asre steel )

You trhen went on to create a fictitious lie about a person who was NOT a lead investigator and who saw NO MELTING of steel.

You are the one absolutely proven to be a liar and that us fact you cannot refute.


You do not get to cover up your lie by moving on to others. Address the FACT that i proved you a liar and destroyed your argument

This is probably going to be my last post to you because you have no idea what has happened to you.

You are calling Astaneh-Asl a liar because you refuse to acknowledge that when he said that he saw melting of girders, he was talking about what he saw eight days after the attack. That should have given you a clue that he was talking about girders that had been melted. How in hell could he have witnessed girders melting if he wasn't there?

And it would appear that you have failed to locate any post of mine in which I claimed that anyone saw melting girders.

Here's what I've said:

". . . steel that had melted . . ."
". . . that had melted down into blobs . . ."
". . . a handgun melted into a blob . . ."
". . . a melted handgun . . ."
". . . a handgun melted into a blob . . ."
". . . steel had melted . . ."
". . . no steel had melted . . ."
". . . evidence of melted steel . . ."
". . . FBI bomb technician who saw a handgun melted into a blob . . ."
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

If you don't understand the difference between melting and melted, just try to remember that melting indicates present tense, and melted indicates past tense.

Anyway, what about Gerry Fornino? You believe he exists, but do you believe that he said this:

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

Simple yes or no will do.

Acknowledge your proven lie

 

[the other mike]

I already said that stupid.

Disinformation trolls often use ad hominem attacks.

 

[irosie91]

I already said that stupid.

Disinformation trolls often use ad hominem attacks.

IDIOTS I HAVE KNOWN-----usually failed both high school geometry and highschool chemistry. ---aka
intro to baby science. I tutored the town idiots in these subjects-----one became a lawyer

 

[the other mike]

IDIOTS I HAVE KNOWN-----usually failed both high school geometry and highschool chemistry. ---aka
intro to baby science. I tutored the town idiots in these subjects-----one became a lawyer

You're on the dark side.
Fuck off loser.

 

[irosie91]

IDIOTS I HAVE KNOWN-----usually failed both high school geometry and highschool chemistry. ---aka
intro to baby science. I tutored the town idiots in these subjects-----one became a lawyer

You're on the dark side.
Fuck off loser.

"fuck off" is the best you can do?

 

[the other mike]

"fuck off" is the best you can do?

Yep.

 

[Briss]

If I might interject here, I do recall hearing about steel that had melted sometime that day.

And jet fuel cannot melt steel.

And I'm pretty sure that some guy said that he had seen the melting of girders, too.

No one saw any of that or any melted steel.

Funny story though

Before I prove to you that such things as a handgun melted into a blob are a reality, I'd like to hear you say one more time that no one saw any such thing.

When you do, I'll show you that it's true, and you can maybe for the first time in hour life ask yourself why you make statements before finding out if they're true or not. And then I'll be asking myself why I would engage you in debate when I'll have to fact check everything you say to make sure you're not lying.

So, why don't you say that there's no such thing? Go ahead . . . fish.

Fire ahead and prove it. Even if someone did see it such a thing would be absolutely irrelevant. The picgture you showed of molten sgteel was NOT specifically steel. Any number of flammable materials could burn that way and such buildings as the towers would have endless flammable materials.

You have nothing.

You're a fukcing hair-trigger, ain't ya? If you slow down just a little, you'll recall that I have put forth no theory. Nor did I post any pictures. That's all in your mind. Your problem is that when you are angry, you become incapable of making a point, and you even recall things that didn't happen.

Anyway, one of the lead investigators into the collapses said he saw melting of girders at the WTC. Wonder why he would say such a thing unless . . .
_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Here's something from a guy named Gerry Fornino. He was an FBI bomb technician.

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

No I am not.

You are an overly sensitive fool who is supporting idiiotic theories even if you never stated one.

You stated you would offer proof. You did not. A quote which YOU typed is worthless.

Anyways no one said any such thing LIAR

Wow! You just deny everything and then hope no one can back up what they say. You should have researched what I had told you. Now you're stuck in a corner.

Here is a video of a lead investigator saying that he saw melting of girders at WTC:

9/11: FEMA investigator Abolhassan Astaneh says, "melting of girders" in WTC - Bing video

So, now that you've made a fool of yourself, are you still going to deny it?

Hey, did you happen to google Gerry Fornino? Do you believe he exists? Do you really doubt that he said exactly what I quoted him as saying? Be careful, you could lose what's left of your credibility.

LOLOL. He wasn't a "lead investigator".

Do you believe that if he is not the lead investigator, nothing he said is correct?

It proves you are lying as he was no such thing,

Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl (Persian: ابوالحسن آستانه‌اصل ‎; born 1947 in Tabriz) is an Iranian -American academic, structural engineer and professor at University of California, Berkeley. He was one of the leading structural engineers to investigate the collapse of the World Trade Center towers on the September 11 attacks.

What was he?

And are you, too, going to deny the existence of Gerry Fornino and what he said?

Just another of many engineers who helped investigate.

He was not a lead investigator.

One stupid lie from you at a time do not try to distract from your idiotic spin by naming someone else.

Okay, let's say he was not a lead investigator. Now, do you believe that an academic, structural engineer and professor at University of California, Berkeley did not know what melt means?

And what about Gerry Fornino? I get the feeling that if he wasn't the "lead" FBI bomb technician, you'd use that as proof that he didn't say what he said, or that it wasn't true. Am I right?

Do you under stand that the building was a willow reed? It was NOT brick and mortar... The floors were cantilevered off central core like spokes.. Like the ribs of an umbrella... and it had an aluminum skin. I knew as soon as the planes hit the buildings would collapse.

Hmm. Someone said that there was evidence of melted steel. Another poster said there was none. I found a statement from a structural engineer and professor, and an FBI bomb technician who saw a handgun melted into a blob.

What does telling me about the "skin" of the building have to do with this?

Do you believe that an academic, structural engineer and professor at University of California, Berkeley did not know what melt means?

And what about Gerry Fornino? I get the feeling that if he wasn't the "lead" FBI bomb technician, you'd use that as proof that he didn't say what he said, or that it wasn't true. Am I right?

Steel girders don't melt, but their integrity is compromised when they get hot enough to sag.

They CAN melt but did not on that day. Whether it was girders or some other pieces of steel some melted steel was found at the bottom of the rubble once the clean up neared the end.

Of course it was still hot. Because it was melted from being at tne bottom of that pit covered with debris. Some what similar to a kiln or blacksmiths forge.

Twoofers ignore the details and scream endlessly about jet fuel not being hot enough to melt steel which is true. They ignore that the jet fuel only started a fire and it grew hot enough to cause the steel supports to lose over half of their strength and sag as you pointed out. When they could no longer support the weight they collapsed exactly as physics dictates that they should

Are you the one who started out saying that no steel melted?

You mean a week later underneath all the debris? Do you have a college education?

First you said that no steel had melted, and now you want to amend that statement? Okay, so how hot did it get in the pile of rubble? And how much melted steel was found?

You are feeding a sock puppet shill.

Yeah, and it's choking on the feed as we speak.

You are the shill and yes choking on facts.

whenever LARAM weighs in it is proof positive you have been humiliated and crushed with facts,

You forgot to make a point. I guess I should first ask you whether or not you believe Gerry Fornino exists. So, how about it? Does he exist?

No I did make a point and it was a factual point. LARAM is by definition the proof you are wrong and defeated when he comes in on your side.

Since you are so determined to change the subject you acknowledge that your stupid claim of people seeing melting steel has been crushed and debunked.

I see.

Anyway, do you believe that Gerry Fornino exists?

So you acknowledge that your stupid claim of people seeing mdelting steel was a lie and proven so

No, what's been proven is that in order for you to maintain your ignorance, you have to pretend that Gerry Fornino doesn't exist. When you fail to acknowledge the existence of someone who proves my point, that means that you're in denial.

So just for the record, do you think Gerry Fornino is a figment of my imagination?

I never said he does not exist,

You are lying and of course yoy wish to hide from the fact that you have been proven wrong about people seeing melting steel.

You KNOW that your first claim of people seeing melting steel has been debunked and proven a lie. Acknowledge that fact and then we can move on.

Alright! So now that we've established that you understand that Gerry Fornino exists, let's find out whether or not you believe he has said what he said.

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

If you have reason to doubt that that's exactly what he said, make your case.

Also, you're going on about how my first claim was that people saw melting steel. You're editing the past again. But in case you think I'm kidding about that, show me where I said that anyone saw melting steel.

No you are lying.

I edited nothing and proved that you lied about people seeing melting steell which no one did.

That is trhe issue at hand and you do not get to bury your humilation and failure by trying to swtich to something else.

You acknowledsge and admit you lkied like a coward and got proven so by me.

That is fact and everyone knwos it

You're editing the past again. Show me where I claimed that anyone saw melting steel. And when you are unable to produce that, consider what that means.

Anyway, what about Gerry Fornino? You believe he exists, but do you believe that he said this:

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

Simple yes or no will do.

You are lying again. I am in no way editing the past. You got caught in an outright lie and that is a proven fact.

You do not get to evade that fact by burying it.

Go ahead and admit you were proven wrong and caught in a lie and we ca move on to your next failed effort

Noooooooo, I caught you in a lie.

You said I claimed that people saw steel melting. I challenged you to produce the post in which I made that claim. You couldn't find one. So let's get back to where we were.

Anyway, what about Gerry Fornino? You believe that Gerry Fornino exists, but do you believe that he said this:

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

Simple yes or no will do.

You are a proven liar you caught no such thing and that is FACT.
In post 229 you said someone saw the melting of girders ( which asre steel )

You trhen went on to create a fictitious lie about a person who was NOT a lead investigator and who saw NO MELTING of steel.

You are the one absolutely proven to be a liar and that us fact you cannot refute.


You do not get to cover up your lie by moving on to others. Address the FACT that i proved you a liar and destroyed your argument

This is probably going to be my last post to you because you have no idea what has happened to you.

You are calling Astaneh-Asl a liar because you refuse to acknowledge that when he said that he saw melting of girders, he was talking about what he saw eight days after the attack. That should have given you a clue that he was talking about girders that had been melted. How in hell could he have witnessed girders melting if he wasn't there?

And it would appear that you have failed to locate any post of mine in which I claimed that anyone saw melting girders.

Here's what I've said:

". . . steel that had melted . . ."
". . . that had melted down into blobs . . ."
". . . a handgun melted into a blob . . ."
". . . a melted handgun . . ."
". . . a handgun melted into a blob . . ."
". . . steel had melted . . ."
". . . no steel had melted . . ."
". . . evidence of melted steel . . ."
". . . FBI bomb technician who saw a handgun melted into a blob . . ."
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

If you don't understand the difference between melting and melted, just try to remember that melting indicates present tense, and melted indicates past tense.

Anyway, what about Gerry Fornino? You believe he exists, but do you believe that he said this:

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

Simple yes or no will do.

I already said that stupid.

I pointed out to you that his command of english was poor and when he said he saw melting of steel he meant melted steel after the fact,.

You continued to lie about it until you could not anymore.

YOU ARE A LIAR.

I linked to the quote where you said someone saw MELTING OF STEEL

MELTING OF STEEL

Read those words and eat igt because I have proven you a liar and thjat you are the one who edited history.

Acknowledgew that facf NOW

Dude, when I said someone had seen "melting of girders," I used those words because I didn't want to misquote the guy who said it. So yeah, he saw girders that had melted. So your contention that there was no melted steel isn't accurate, is it?

And what about . . .

"The things of interest that we'd find would be some of the parts of the plane embedded in the cars and in places in which you just wouldn't expect. Um, a part of the fins off one of the turbines off one of the engines was actually found embedded in one of the engine blocks of one of the cars. But I think the most unique thing about this investigation has just been the unbelievable damage; the levels of heat in which in certain instances firearms were found in some of the vehicles that had completely melted down, and the temperatures that we were told were in the area of three to four thousand degrees, that they melted a steel revolver down into a blob of metal again . . ."

Simple yes or no will do.

 

[the other mike]

This first responder witnessed the molten steel at ground zero.
Probably deceased by now, from the thermite nanoparticles he directly
breathed in.

Jump to 34:00 to 40:00

 

[Soupnazi630]

I already said that stupid.

Disinformation trolls often use ad hominem attacks.

Which you always do making you the troll

 

[Soupnazi630]

This first responder witnessed the melting steel.
Probably deceased by now, from the thermite nanoparticles he directly breathed in.

There was no gthermite nanoparticles and he saw no such thing