The month of Ramadan

[TNHarley]

I see many non-muslims using quote's from the Hadith to back their claims about Aisha's age when she married Muhammad.
These people do not realize there are 5 categories of Hadith (kinda like a rating system) based on reliability of the person who narrated the story written in the Hadith's.
Every story about Muhammad was included in the Hadith, and it's up to the reader to see which one of the 5 reliability categories has been assigned to it. From totally authentic to somewhat doubtful. ...

Sunan An-Nasai : Abu Abdurrahman Ahmed ibn Shuaib ibn Ali ibn Sinan ibn Bahr ibn Dinar Al- Khurusani al-Nasa'i : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
Sunan An-Nasai has the fewest weak ahadith after the two Sahih collections. This Sunan is one of the six is al-Mujtaba or as-Sunan as-Sughara, which is a synopsis of a large collection of ahadith which he considered to be fairly reliable.

 

[Sunni Man]

The Quran is considered to be 100% the undisputed words of Allah,
The Hadith's are basically a collection of stories about the Prophet Muhammad's sayings and actions from people who personally knew him, and does not carry the same spiritual gravitas as the Quran. ...

 

[TNHarley]

The Quran is considered to be 100% the undisputed words of Allah,
The Hadith's are basically a collection of stories about the Prophet Muhammad's sayings and lifestyle from people who personally knew him, and does not carry the same spiritual gravitas as the Quran. ...

spiritual gravitas has nothing to do with his wife admitting he was fucking her when she was NINE

 

[Sunni Man]

Categories of Hadith - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[surada]

Do car bombings stop during ramadan?

They probably offer big discounts on suicide vests for children at this time of year.

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What a sick, sick thing to say. Pathetic.

But so accurate

Not accurate at all. Muslims are fasting in Ramadan now. It's like Lent. Just this afternoon I was waiting at a bus stop and began talking with a Muslim woman who barely spoke any English. She said that she was from Afghanistan and that she and her child were safe here. All she had was a bus card to get her to a doctor's appointment, but it turned out that there was no money on it. I told the driver that I would pay for her, but he just waived her in. I gave her some extra bucks because I realized that she did not have the bus fare to get her back home. I don't know what will happen next, but I know that this woman was not concerned with suicide vests. She asked for my number. I did not think to get her's. I hope that she calls me. I can't speak Urdu, but I know a Pakistani who is fluent. He's a great guy, and he owes me one.

She must have been hot in her niqab. You should have told her that you have 100 camels, she would have been very impressed. Her father would have wanted to sell her to you for some.

You sure do have a way with people. What can possibly go wrong with a bedside manner like that.

Hey, that's what they do in sheet countries. The younger the girl, the more camel she'll cost.

The money or property goes to the bride... and its hers alone by law.

The marriage age has gone up just like life expectancy has gone up with heathcare and education.

Education costs are going up? Why, does the koran cost more these days?
And healthcare going up as well because it's getting more expensive to fly your citizens to countries where they have real hospitals.
Well, at least the wife gets the camels but has to fuck a stranger for the rest of her life. Not really a good trade off.

They have excellent hospitals and universities. They are turning out women engineers, lawyers, doctors, pilots.

As I said earlier, you are profoundly ignorant.

Most Muslims countries have shit. Maybe the Saudis have some good universities, but they are the worst at treating their women.

Nope.. Women in Arabia are cherished... and they have a lot of power, control the money and own and operate a lot of businesses.

They just got the right to drive, wtf are you talking about. Sheesh, talk about ignorant.

IMHO----driving was the least of THE PROBLEMS OF SAUDI WOMEN-----who actually have far less problems than 100s of millions of other. Surada is right about money------no money is a big liability for muslim women

That and having 3 sister wives.

Bedouin women have always driven. .. and women drove in compounds and university campuses.. There really were no roads or traffic cops or rest stations and family facilities on the highways until about 20 years ago. It was one of Salman's projects even before he was CP.

Depends... They write their own marriage contract. And multiple wives are not so common anymore.

But polygamy still happens, meaning it's legal, and Salman cuts up journalists. What a piece of shit country, we should nuke them and just take their oil. Buncha sand monkeys.

Well, Muhammed wanted the people to stop exposing baby girls so he supported the idea than every woman needed a family and a tribe. Saudi Arabia is a VERY harsh environment. Most of his wives were older widows.

I know King Salman .. He is an amazing man.. Very kind and very wise. 20 years ago MBL was 16.

So it's kind and wise to have journalists cut into pieces because you don't like what they write? Mohammed was a pedophile.

Aisha was born before the Call so she was at least 19.

She was 9, making Mo a child rapist.

Nope. Aisha was born before the Call. She was 19.

“The Messenger of God married me when I was six, and consummated the marriage with me when I was nine.”
Are you calling her a liar and the hadith fake news?

Its an error. Those Hadiths came out of Persia 200 years after the death of Muhammed. Most of them are NOT authenticated.. Aisha was born before the Call and there's ample evidence.

Aisha's sister Asma was ten years older. Aisha was born in 605 (595 + 10 = 605) and her age during the Migration was 17 (27-10 = 17).

Since her marriage took place seven months after the Migration , it means that the age of Hz. Aisha passed seventeen and was close to eighteen at that time.

ok. We dont like that part of the religion, so we will just say its wrong.
Maybe it was an allegory
ding

I can't wait to see what it has to say about the Hadith where big MO tells his soldiers to rape women in front of their husbands and then kill the men.

They asked to be judged by their own laws and they were.

 

[TNHarley]

Categories of Hadith - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Al-Sunan al-Sughra - Wikipedia
Sunnis regard this collection as the third most important of their six major hadith collections.[2] Al-Mujtaba (English: the selected) has about 5,270 hadiths, including repeated narrations, which the author selected from his larger work, As-Sunan al-Kubra. Within Kutub al-Sittah, it is considered the most authentic book of hadith (narrations of Muhammad) after the Sahihayn (Sahih al-Bukhari & Sahih Muslim) by most scholars of hadith.[3]

Try again?

 

[surada]

The Quran is considered to be 100% the undisputed words of Allah,
The Hadith's are basically a collection of stories about the Prophet Muhammad's sayings and lifestyle from people who personally knew him, and does not carry the same spiritual gravitas as the Quran. ...

spiritual gravitas has nothing to do with his wife admitting he was fucking her when she was NINE

I already explained your error to you. What is your problem? Do you consider yourself an expert on Muhammed and the Koran?

 

[ding]

Categories of Hadith - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Al-Sunan al-Sughra - Wikipedia
Sunnis regard this collection as the third most important of their six major hadith collections.[2] Al-Mujtaba (English: the selected) has about 5,270 hadiths, including repeated narrations, which the author selected from his larger work, As-Sunan al-Kubra. Within Kutub al-Sittah, it is considered the most authentic book of hadith (narrations of Muhammad) after the Sahihayn (Sahih al-Bukhari & Sahih Muslim) by most scholars of hadith.[3]

Try again?

 

[Sunni Man]

Try again?

So which one of the 5 reliability categories does the Hadith you are quoting fall into? ...

 

[TNHarley]

Try again?

So which one of the 5 reliability categories does the Hadith you are quoting fall into? ...

Not sure. Tell me which one.
I also saw this : According to al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar, the book of Sunan an-Nasa'i contains the fewest da‘eef (weak) hadiths and majrooh narrators among the six books after the Saheehain (Sahih al-Bukhari & Sahih Muslim); there is not a single mawdhoo (fabricated) hadith in it.

 

[Lysistrata]

And funny thing. Ethiopians come from one of the oldest Christian countries in the world, yet it is not uncommon to see an Ethiopian woman, usually older, wear a white scarf

That is of little surprise. In the NT there is a passage which obliges women to cover their heads.

Ya. I know. I am a cradle Catholic and I personally experienced it, pinning a tissue to my head just to enter the church. This is by far not the only reason why I quit Catholicism in my teens, but it certainly is one of them. These religions (Jewish, Christian, Muslim, and others) seem to pick on women for some reason. I'm so happy that I got rid of it early.

I'm pretty sure all of the women still practicing those faiths would disagree.

Maybe. But don't write anything that says that me or any other woman has to follow this shit. These religions do pick on women and refuse to take responsibility for this fact. Women are individuals. Everybody has to stay in their own lane. Right-wingers have a very bad habit of offering the "logical" rationale that because some people of a group follow something so all the members of that group have to follow the same thing. Wrong. If you are a white male, which I think that you are, why can't you be like Biden? Springsteen? My father?

You have been bit by the feminism bug so bad that you are unable to view ancient events in proper context to see how the Bible celebrates women.

You should be cautious in celebrating men you don't know personally. There was probably a time when you viewed Bill Cosby in the same venerated light. As for me, you don't know me. I have sisters and a mother and a wife and daughters.

I think you are pretty unbalanced and suspect to bias.

There is no "feminism bug" to be bitten by. The cults, including those calling themselves "Christian" have pushed misogyny and hatred of female sexuality for millennia. To say that the bible "celebrates women" is hilarious. Its a book of "can'ts" written by insecure males. Be quiet, don't speak, obey the penis you're tied to, don't have sex unless your penis demands it and then spread your legs wide, the southern baptist kooky "complementarianism." I don't know why saul/paul wrote that women shouldn't speak in church. He and the other guys whose writings ended up in the NT seem to have been frightened of other people's opinions on religious subjects. Really, explain this stuff.

Unlike you, I think that men are perfectly capable of having a mature relationship with an adult woman. There is no reason to tie one of a woman's hands behind her back and assign yourself unearned privileges in order to have one a happy and successful relationship. You're supposed to be best friends.

I never had an opinion about Bill Cosby one way or another. And I don't "venerate" anyone, particularly someone I don't know. I do, however, venerate my late father's spirit and memory. I only mentioned Biden and Springsteen because I was looking for an example of decent men, and they seem to have strong, ethical relationships with women whom they treat as equals.

BTW: the bible is not central to many people's religions and doesn't matter to those whom I have heard described as "nones." Moreover, there are other Christian writings that did not make it into the canon for whatever reason.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

This thread is about Ramadan. It's not asking your opinion on Islam. If you're not here to discuss the topic you don't belong here. If you're here to troll, you don't belong here.

 

[Decus]

Ramadan is in fact a pagan ritual adopted by muslims:

"Muslims believe that Ramadan was first introduced by Allah through the Prophet Muhammad in Arabia. But it is totally wrong. Before appearance of Islam Ramadan was practiced by the pagan Arabian. Muhammad also would practice it before he became Prophet. He adopted it in Islam."

The real fact behind Ramadan

Muslims believe that Ramadan was first introduced by Allah through the Prophet Muhammad in Arabia. But it is totally wrong. Before app...

giasuddinonline.blogspot.com

The Quran reveals that fasting rituals of Ramzan are rooted in pre-Islamic pagan and Jewish practice

It explains, in part, why there is a debate over the spelling of Ramzan versus Ramadan.

scroll.in

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[Decus]

Did you know that if you are a muslim woman who is menstruating you don't have to fast and in fact are not allowed to pray:

"The first time 19-year-old Zoha Qamar went to Friday prayers during her period, the mosque was packed. She had learned from a young age that menstruating women aren’t supposed to pray, as dictated by Islamic law and custom."

What It's Like To Have Your Period During Ramadan

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[Sunni Man]

Ramadan is a very special month in Islam.
All the muslim families in the local community meet to pray and break the fast together. Even the muslims who rarely come to the mosque will show up during Ramadan. ...

 

[toty5]

Some polemicists among Christians, having seen the scale of conversions from Christianity to Islam, have taken to the idea of propagating false conversions in the opposite direction. There is no question here of denying this reality, but simply of exposing the false stories of conversion that are circulating on the internet.
So, in my opinion, this “testimony” should be classified under the heading “ignorant people pretending to be ex-Muslims”.

There are so many on the internet,

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The fourth pillar of Islam is fasting.
The fourth pillar of practice fasting, during the Islamic month of Ramadan. The Quran directly prescribes and addresses the issues of this fourth pillar of practice “O you who believe! Fasting is prescribed to you as it was prescribed to those before you, so that you may (learn) self¬restraint…Ramadan is the (month) in which was sent down the Quran, as a guide to mankind, also clear (signs) for guidance and judgment (between right and wrong). So every one of you who is present (at his home) during that month should spend it in fasting...”


That Christ, peace be upon him, fasted for forty days
All Christian fasts are influenced by the pagan nations, especially the Indians, Persians, Greeks and Babylonians

Fasting among the Christians. I remember what the Christian groups agreed on regarding fasting, for they excluded the Gospels from the legislation on fasting
They gave the church alone this right to legislate fasting
the church also did not see anything wrong with sexual intercourse between spouses, as this has nothing to do with fasting and does not spoil it from near or far.




That Christ, peace be upon him, did not fast like a church fast, and he did not say that to them


In Islam
Fasting is a spiritual, educational and disciplinary worship
Fasting is not intended only for eating and drinking
Also fasting the body parts of a person from forbidden actions
And refrain from sexual intercourse between spouses during fasting

Fasting differs from one nation to another, so fasting during the month of Ramadan is for the nation of Muhammad, peace be upon him only, excluding all other prophets

Objectives Of Fasting – Dr Zakir Naik - YouTube

 

[toty5]

IslamQA: Can you read Quran on a computer or smartphone without wudu?



The necessity for wudu only applies to reading from a book of Quran. It does not apply to reading Quranic verses on a smartphone or computer. Everyone, including menstruating women, are permitted to read Quranic verses on computers and smartphones without performing ablution.

is it possible to use your laptop or pc to read the qur'an for menstruating women

(because of sex or menstruation) should not touch the Qur'an from a book of Quran

If we refer to the opinion that it is permissible for a woman who is menstruating to recite the Quran, there is no harm in her touching the Quran contained in telephones and computers, because it does not really affect the Koran, but only the cell phone or the computer, however, the Koran being in the memory of a computer and the Koran contained in a memory of a cell phone or tablet, is not linked to no material religious provision in matters of ritual purification.

Indeed, the Muslim keeps in his memory certain suras of the Koran and despite this he goes to the toilet. Sheikh 'Abdurrahmân ibn Nâsir al-Barrâk, may Allah have mercy on him, said: "It seems that cell phones and other such devices are different from the printed copies of the Quran, because the verses contained in these devices are not not in the form of written letters but in the form of digital signals that the device reproduces and then erases when switching to another page. It is therefore permissible to touch a cell phone or an audio cassette on which there is Quran, just as it is permissible to recite it from it even in a state of ritual impurity. "

It is undoubtedly useful to mention here that the recitation of the Quran by a woman who is menstruating, whether by memory or by means other than a printed copy of the Quran, is a subject of discrepancy between ulemas. Most of the ulemas are of the opinion that this is forbidden whereas the imams Mâlik and Ahmad according to a version adopted by Sheikh al-Islâm ibn Taymiyya and the sheikh Ibn Bâz may Allah have mercy on them, think that it is permissible to the woman having her menses to recite the Koran. Sheikh al-Islâm Ibn Taymiyya, may Allah have mercy on him, said: "There is nothing in the Sunnah that indicates that the woman who has her periods cannot read the Koran and the hadith" The woman having her periods periods and the person in a state of major ritual impurity cannot recite the Koran "is judged Da'îf (weak) by all specialists in the field. At the time of the Prophet () women had their periods. However, if they had been forbidden to recite the Koran just as they had been forbidden to pray, the Prophet () would have indicated it to his community and the mothers of believers would have been informed. "

Ibn al-Qayyim, may Allah have mercy on him, said: “Among the things they are allowed to include is reciting the Quran during their periods, because they cannot make up for this missed reading time during their period. period of purity. Indeed, the period of menstruation can be prolonged. However, if the woman were forbidden to recite the Koran during this period, she would lose the benefit of reading it and she would probably forget what she memorized from the Koran outside of her period of menstruation. This is the opinion of Imam Mâlik and one of the opinions reported by Imams Ahmad and al-Châfi'î, may Allah have mercy on them all. The Prophet () did not forbid the woman who is menstruating to recite the Qur'an and the following hadith is not authentic: "The woman having her period and the person in a state of major ritual impurity cannot recite the Quran. " This is a hadith qualified as Ma'lûl (defective) unanimously by the ulemas of the hadith. "

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Reading Quran while in menses #HUDATV

 

[irosie91]

I have great content and hate towards anything Islamic

I don't-----I have been very objective. I was so friendly towards islam that I got invited to visit a mosque----
it was a shocking experience for me------I DID NOT EXPECT ..... what I heard in the "KHUTBAH JUMAAT"----I almost threw up

What did they say ??

it was on a Good Friday -----I was a student at the time----a day off. There were lots of little boys with
their fathers in the mosque-----I saw in the back---an observer. The Imam was supposed to be some kind of visiting GENIUS (I was told) He delivered a lecture-----like a sermon describing the "FACT" that the story about Jesus being Crucified in the NT is a FRAUD!!!!
invented by the "EVIL CHRISTIANS, ENEMIES OF ISLAAM!!!!|" The mosque was in Manhattan, NY---the kids at the mosque were school boys. -----SHEEEESH----it was circa 1970 ----when we were all singing KUMBAYA---and --I'D LIKE TO BUY THE WORLD A COKE -----no one murmured----I took deep breaths to avoid vomiting

They’re the devil !!
Can’t imagine what they say about them Jews

good point----exactly what I was thinking that day----
more than 50 years ago. But by then I already knew---their "MOSQUE TEACHINGS about jews are a lot more nefarious"

 

[irosie91]

Looking back, what seems strange to me now is not that people would wish to embody Jesus’ values, but that others would criticize them for it. What seems even stranger is that few Christians, in the modern day, match this profile. is that Muslims seemed to embody Jesus’ values better than Christians.

1. Jesus was bearded, as are most Muslims, but only the rare Christian.

2. Jesus dressed modestly. If we close our eyes and form a mental picture, we see flowing robes, from wrists to ankles—much like the loose Arabian thobes and the Indio-Pakistani shalwar kameez, typical of the Muslims of those areas. What we don’t imagine is the revealing or seductive clothing so ubiquitous in Christian cultures.

3. Jesus’ mother covered her hair, and this practice was maintained among the Christian women of the Holy Land up to the middle of the twentieth century. Again, this is a practice maintained among Muslims as well as Orthodox Jews (of which Jesus was one), but not among modern day Christians.
Manners

1. Jesus focused upon salvation and eschewed finery. How many “righteous” Christians fit this “It’s not just on Sundays” profile? Now how many “five prayers a day, every day of the year” Muslims?

2. Jesus spoke with humility and kindness. He didn’t “showboat.” When we think of his speeches, we don’t imagine theatrics. He was a simple man known for quality and truth. How many preachers and how many evangelists follow this example?

3. Jesus taught his disciples to offer the greeting of “Peace” (Luke 10:5), and then set the example: “Peace be with you” (Luke 24:36, John 20:19, John 20:21, John 20:26). Who continues this practice to this day, Christians or Muslims? “Peace be with you” is the meaning of the Muslim greeting, “Assalam alaikum.” Interestingly enough, we find this greeting in Judaism as well (Genesis 43:23, Numbers 6:26, Judges 6:23, I Samuel 1:17 and I Samuel 25:6).
Religious Practices

1. Jesus was circumcised (Luke 2:21). Paul taught it wasn’t necessary (Rom 4:11 and Gal 5:2). Muslims believe it is.

2. Jesus didn’t eat pork, in keeping with Old Testament law (Leviticus 11:7 and Deuteronomy 14:. Muslims also believe pork is forbidden. Christians … well, you get the idea.

3. Jesus didn’t give or take usury, in compliance with the Old Testament prohibition (Exodus 22:25). Usury is forbidden in the Old Testament and the Quran, as it was forbidden in the religion of Jesus. The economies of most Christian countries, however, are structured upon usury.

4. Jesus didn’t fornicate, and abstained from extramarital contact with women. Now, this issue extends to the least physical contact with the opposite sex. With the exception of performing religious rituals and helping those in need, Jesus never even touched a woman other than his mother. Strictly practicing Orthodox Jews maintain this practice to this day in observance of Old Testament law. Likewise, practicing Muslims don’t even shake hands between the sexes. Can Christian “hug your neighbor” and “kiss the bride” congregations make the same claim?
Practices of Worship

1. Jesus purified himself with washing prior to prayer, as was the practice of the pious prophets who preceded him (see Exodus 40:31-32 in reference to Moses and Aaron), and as is the practice of Muslims.

2. Jesus prayed in prostration (Matthew 26:39), like the other prophets (see Nehemiah 8:6 with regard to Ezra and the people, Joshua 5:14 for Joshua, Genesis 17:3 and 24:52 for Abraham, Exodus 34:8 and Numbers 20:6 for Moses and Aaron). Who prays like that, Christians or Muslims?

3. Jesus fasted for more than a month at a time (Matthew 4:2 and Luke 4:2), as did the pious before him (Exodus 34:28, I Kings 19:, and as do Muslims in the annual fast of the month of Ramadan.

4. Jesus made pilgrimage for the purpose of worship, as all Orthodox Jews aspire to do. The Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca is well known, and is alluded to in the Bible (see The First and Final Commandment).
Matters of Creed

1. Jesus taught the oneness of God (Mark 12:29-30, Matthew 22:37 and Luke 10:27), as conveyed in the first commandment (Exodus 20:3). Nowhere did he declare the Trinity.

2. Jesus declared himself a man and a prophet of God (see above), and nowhere claimed divinity or divine sonship. Which creed are the above points more consistent with—the Trinitarian formula or the absolute monotheism of Islam?



One wonders what happened between the practices of the first generation of Jesus’ followers and the Christians of modern day. At the same time, we have to respect the fact that Muslims exemplify Jesus’ teachings more than Christians do. Furthermore, we should remember that the Old Testament foretold three prophets to follow. John the Baptist and Jesus Christ were numbers one and two, and Jesus Christ himself predicted the third and last. Hence, both Old and New Testaments speak of a final prophet, and we would be amiss if we didn’t consider that final prophet to be Muhammad, and the final revelation to be that of Islam

Jesus Christ (عليه السلام) in Islam Last Lecture by Ahmed Deedat (رحمه الله)

Not about Jesus. Tell us how Islam really feels about non-Muslims.

Muhammed said, "Be kind to the Christians. They are nearest us in faith."

That verse has been abrogated by the verse of the sword. Next.

LOLOL.. Muslims are only allowed defensive wars against anyone who wants to destroy them.. Aren't you bright enough to get that BOTH are true for them? Have you forgotten that the Christian king of Ethiopia gave the Muslims sanctury in the early years?

for fun----discuss the matter with a christian Ethiopian-----we got some in the US and some jews who escaped that country presently SHITTIED UP by muslims

 

[irosie91]

Looking back, what seems strange to me now is not that people would wish to embody Jesus’ values, but that others would criticize them for it. What seems even stranger is that few Christians, in the modern day, match this profile. is that Muslims seemed to embody Jesus’ values better than Christians.

1. Jesus was bearded, as are most Muslims, but only the rare Christian.

2. Jesus dressed modestly. If we close our eyes and form a mental picture, we see flowing robes, from wrists to ankles—much like the loose Arabian thobes and the Indio-Pakistani shalwar kameez, typical of the Muslims of those areas. What we don’t imagine is the revealing or seductive clothing so ubiquitous in Christian cultures.

3. Jesus’ mother covered her hair, and this practice was maintained among the Christian women of the Holy Land up to the middle of the twentieth century. Again, this is a practice maintained among Muslims as well as Orthodox Jews (of which Jesus was one), but not among modern day Christians.
Manners

1. Jesus focused upon salvation and eschewed finery. How many “righteous” Christians fit this “It’s not just on Sundays” profile? Now how many “five prayers a day, every day of the year” Muslims?

2. Jesus spoke with humility and kindness. He didn’t “showboat.” When we think of his speeches, we don’t imagine theatrics. He was a simple man known for quality and truth. How many preachers and how many evangelists follow this example?

3. Jesus taught his disciples to offer the greeting of “Peace” (Luke 10:5), and then set the example: “Peace be with you” (Luke 24:36, John 20:19, John 20:21, John 20:26). Who continues this practice to this day, Christians or Muslims? “Peace be with you” is the meaning of the Muslim greeting, “Assalam alaikum.” Interestingly enough, we find this greeting in Judaism as well (Genesis 43:23, Numbers 6:26, Judges 6:23, I Samuel 1:17 and I Samuel 25:6).
Religious Practices

1. Jesus was circumcised (Luke 2:21). Paul taught it wasn’t necessary (Rom 4:11 and Gal 5:2). Muslims believe it is.

2. Jesus didn’t eat pork, in keeping with Old Testament law (Leviticus 11:7 and Deuteronomy 14:. Muslims also believe pork is forbidden. Christians … well, you get the idea.

3. Jesus didn’t give or take usury, in compliance with the Old Testament prohibition (Exodus 22:25). Usury is forbidden in the Old Testament and the Quran, as it was forbidden in the religion of Jesus. The economies of most Christian countries, however, are structured upon usury.

4. Jesus didn’t fornicate, and abstained from extramarital contact with women. Now, this issue extends to the least physical contact with the opposite sex. With the exception of performing religious rituals and helping those in need, Jesus never even touched a woman other than his mother. Strictly practicing Orthodox Jews maintain this practice to this day in observance of Old Testament law. Likewise, practicing Muslims don’t even shake hands between the sexes. Can Christian “hug your neighbor” and “kiss the bride” congregations make the same claim?
Practices of Worship

1. Jesus purified himself with washing prior to prayer, as was the practice of the pious prophets who preceded him (see Exodus 40:31-32 in reference to Moses and Aaron), and as is the practice of Muslims.

2. Jesus prayed in prostration (Matthew 26:39), like the other prophets (see Nehemiah 8:6 with regard to Ezra and the people, Joshua 5:14 for Joshua, Genesis 17:3 and 24:52 for Abraham, Exodus 34:8 and Numbers 20:6 for Moses and Aaron). Who prays like that, Christians or Muslims?

3. Jesus fasted for more than a month at a time (Matthew 4:2 and Luke 4:2), as did the pious before him (Exodus 34:28, I Kings 19:, and as do Muslims in the annual fast of the month of Ramadan.

4. Jesus made pilgrimage for the purpose of worship, as all Orthodox Jews aspire to do. The Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca is well known, and is alluded to in the Bible (see The First and Final Commandment).
Matters of Creed

1. Jesus taught the oneness of God (Mark 12:29-30, Matthew 22:37 and Luke 10:27), as conveyed in the first commandment (Exodus 20:3). Nowhere did he declare the Trinity.

2. Jesus declared himself a man and a prophet of God (see above), and nowhere claimed divinity or divine sonship. Which creed are the above points more consistent with—the Trinitarian formula or the absolute monotheism of Islam?



One wonders what happened between the practices of the first generation of Jesus’ followers and the Christians of modern day. At the same time, we have to respect the fact that Muslims exemplify Jesus’ teachings more than Christians do. Furthermore, we should remember that the Old Testament foretold three prophets to follow. John the Baptist and Jesus Christ were numbers one and two, and Jesus Christ himself predicted the third and last. Hence, both Old and New Testaments speak of a final prophet, and we would be amiss if we didn’t consider that final prophet to be Muhammad, and the final revelation to be that of Islam

Jesus Christ (عليه السلام) in Islam Last Lecture by Ahmed Deedat (رحمه الله)

Not about Jesus. Tell us how Islam really feels about non-Muslims.

Muhammed said, "Be kind to the Christians. They are nearest us in faith."

That verse has been abrogated by the verse of the sword. Next.

LOLOL.. Muslims are only allowed defensive wars against anyone who wants to destroy them.. Aren't you bright enough to get that BOTH are true for them? Have you forgotten that the Christian king of Ethiopia gave the Muslims sanctury in the early years?

for fun----discuss the matter with a christian Ethiopian-----we got some in the US and some jews who escaped that country presently SHITTIED UP by muslims

ROFLMAO sunni is denying it