The Love Story That Changed America

[Tom Paine 1949]

Their marriage in 1958 was illegal in their home state of Virginia and in over 20 other states.

Nine years later, in June 1967, it was still illegal in every southern state when the Supreme Court finally ended laws outlawing “black” & “white” intermarriage and “miscegenation” in the USA.

This is their story:

Mildred and Richard: The Love Story that Changed America | HISTORY

Find out how a couple in love brought forward the landmark case, Loving v. Virginia, which forever changed the color of marriage in the United States.

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Date range where U.S. states repealed anti-miscegenation laws:
Grey — No laws ever passed
Green — 1780 to 1887
Yellow — 1948 to 1967
Red — After 1967

 

[WinterBorn]

People get so worked up about what other people or couples are doing. Mind your business.

 

[MaryL]

As popular plays go, how many slaves did that OTHER white guy named HAMILTON own how many statues did he have erected in his name? Lets be all sensitive and stuff. This gets weirder and weirder.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

MaryL —
I think you are responding to a different thread.

 

[the other mike]

My first encounter with racism was around 1967 on a family drive from Ohio to Florida.
We got off the Interstate and stopped at a gas station in South Carolina and there it was.

 

[MarathonMike]

My first encounter with racism was around 1967 on a family drive from Ohio to Florida.
We got off the Interstate and stopped at a gas station in South Carolina and there it was.
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Yep I saw the same fountains in Montgomery Alabama around 1963. Those were the days of real Systemic Racism. Thank goodness Systemic Racism ended decades ago.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

As popular plays go, how many slaves did that OTHER white guy named HAMILTON own how many statues did he have erected in his name? Lets be all sensitive and stuff. This gets weirder and weirder.

Alexander Hamilton was a great man who fought to create this country. The Lovings just wanted to create mulatto babies. We are beholden to what Hamilton did to this very day for the freedoms we enjoy. The Lovings not so much. Interracial couples are grateful. Everyone else, not so much.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Their marriage in 1958 was illegal in their home state of Virginia and in over 20 other states.

Nine years later, in June 1967, it was still illegal in every southern state when the Supreme Court finally ended laws outlawing “black” & “white” intermarriage and “miscegenation” in the USA.

This is their story:

Mildred and Richard: The Love Story that Changed America | HISTORY

Find out how a couple in love brought forward the landmark case, Loving v. Virginia, which forever changed the color of marriage in the United States.

www.history.com

View attachment 353403Date range where U.S. states repealed anti-miscegenation laws:
Grey — No laws ever passed
Green — 1780 to 1887
Yellow — 1948 to 1967
Red — After 1967

The land of the "free"

 

[WinterBorn]

Alexander Hamilton was a great man who fought to create this country. The Lovings just wanted to create mulatto babies. We are beholden to what Hamilton did to this very day for the freedoms we enjoy. The Lovings not so much. Interracial couples are grateful. Everyone else, not so much.

Whether everyone else is grateful does not matter. Freedom is not about whether it is popular. It is about the individuals.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Whether everyone else is grateful does not matter. Freedom is not about whether it is popular. It is about the individuals.

And Alexander Hamilton secured freedom for a great many more people than the Lovings.

 

[WinterBorn]

And Alexander Hamilton secured freedom for a great many more people than the Lovings.

Of course he did. He was a founding father and a political leader. The Lovings were just a couple, in love, who refused to accept the ridiculous law of the time.

But the Lovings risked more in their loving each other.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Of course he did. He was a founding father and a political leader. The Lovings were just a couple, in love, who refused to accept the ridiculous law of the time.

But the Lovings risked more in their loving each other.

More then life, fortune and sacred honor? No.
Without diminishing the power of love, the Lovings risked very little. When they were happily and legally married, they returned to the very state which did not consider the marriage legal to have a baby? This is a political act. They cannot be compared to the brave people who risked everything in birthing the nation, not birthing another mulatto.

 

[WinterBorn]

More then life, fortune and sacred honor? No.
Without diminishing the power of love, the Lovings risked very little. When they were happily and legally married, they returned to the very state which did not consider the marriage legal to have a baby? This is a political act. They cannot be compared to the brave people who risked everything in birthing the nation, not birthing another mulatto.

Yes they can. They got married because they loved each other. The sheriff came to their home and arrested them in the middle of the night. They were convicted. They had to leave the state or go to prison (lenient judge). They had spent they entire lives in one small town, and were forced out because of racist asshole laws.

And if you don't think there were death threats against them in the south, you are naive.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Can hear it now.

 

[WinterBorn]

Can hear it now.

Two things that I do not understand.

First, why was Alexander Hamilton even brought up in this thread?

Second, and more importantly, why would anyone care who married who? What possible reason would anyone have for objecting to the Loving's marriage?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Two things that I do not understand.

First, why was Alexander Hamilton even brought up in this thread?

Second, and more importantly, why would anyone care who married who? What possible reason would anyone have for objecting to the Loving's marriage?

MaryL thought Hamilton's slave owning pertinent.
Not only is there no possible reason to object to the Loving's marriage, there is no possible reason to care at all. This is one of the very minor acts in civil rights. It would have more meaning if the participants were at least good looking. In real life, the Lovings were so homely, it's a good thing they found each other. No one else would want either of them.

This is making a big deal out of nothing because Romeo and Juliette needed yet another retelling.

 

[whitehall]

There were no laws that prevented interracial sex or living together for that matter so it really didn't change much. Now you can marry the same sex or your car or a freaking plant if you want to. That's progress I guess.

 

[WinterBorn]

There were no laws that prevented interracial sex or living together for that matter so it really didn't change much. Now you can marry the same sex or your car or a freaking plant if you want to. That's progress I guess.

There were laws against interracial marriage. And then they were removed.

There were laws against same sex marriage. Now they have been removed.

The "...you can marry your car or a freaking plant..." is just the bullshit leaking from your argument.

 

[Unkotare]

... the Lovings were so homely, it's a good thing they found each other. No one else would want either of them.
...

And what magazine covers are you gracing these days?

 

[Otis Mayfield]

That's progress.

As in "progressive."